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Sunflower
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Aug 31 2009, 6:53am


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I've read a bit on the subject, mostly on Nikki Finke's site, and I've been uncomfortable about what I've read. You're right about the well-known film being preserved (they want to milk that ol' DVD dollar), while allowing other less "accessible" classics to fall by the wayside..

Regarding preservation technology:
All this ignorant JQ public film "consumer" can say is this:

I still own, in the closet, a cassette-playing Walkman and my DVD player is a combo VHS/DVD player.
I can still play my vintage 1983 cassette copy of U2's "War" on my casette player perfectly. (Granted, side 1 doesn't work--it was played to death in the 80's--but side 2 works fine. (Thank God it was one of those "full album on each side" things.)

I can still pop my played-to-death-vintage 1981 VHS copy of "The Empire Strikes Back" into the VHS part of the machine, and it works as good as the day I got =it as a birthday gift when I was a little kid.

However, when I pop in my only 6-yr-old ROTK EE DVD into the DVD part of the machine, I now have to skip a couple of scenes which have been played to death and have begun ,a couple of times, to get that "frozen Picasso painting" look when the screen freezes into a million glaring pixels. It only happens a couple of times, but if I play it too much more it will go that way permanently, and I want to preserve my LOTR DVD's, whatever format becomes available..for nostalgia's sake. Juat as I preserved the former two works of art in the format they were first released in.

We all know what happens to a DVD that's been played too much. Ironically, wasn't that the argument that was hyped to sell DVD's-that they were supposed to last forever? How can we gauantee that the same won't be true of Blu-Ray? You never really know until 10 or 15 yrs passes. But I am finding that today, in so many areas, from cars to stero systems to clothes, things were really made better 20 + yrs ago. They weren't deliberately cheaply made to force you to buy it again and again, just to fill a CEO's pocket with that nice fat Christmas bonus, without which they cannot breathe. An issue that of course was not an issue 20+ yrs ago when the studios were owned by smaller companies run by MOVIE MEN and not dishwasher or whisky salesmen, and who did require such huge huge paychecks--which they knew were impossible anyway b/c being mive men they knew how risky the art form was, yet loved it so much they stayed in it to take those artistic risks.

Speaking of filling CEO's pockets with nice fat Christmas bonuses--check out these coments from Jim Cameron himself, and the company he's teaming up with for the Avatar release:

http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/node/42123

esp the comments from the Pansonic CEO. "It has to be a blockbuster to get 3D to be watched in the home." ?? Are we hyping a movie here, or just trying to sell more HDTV's and Blu-Ray players, a source of income to take the place of declining real ticket sales? Sorry Mr. Cameron--I admire you but not here. You're pimping Panasonic product, but we have yet to hear a peep about the details of the STORY behind Avatar. Reminds me of recording artists giving their songs away for car commercials.

Excuse me for my skepticim...


(This post was edited by Sunflower on Aug 31 2009, 7:01am)

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Please let those 3D 'Hobbit' rumors rest in peace MrCere Send a private message to MrCere Aug 28 2009, 9:50am
    Good. Buchanicus Send a private message to Buchanicus Aug 28 2009, 10:26am
        agree Mitrandir Send a private message to Mitrandir Aug 28 2009, 10:59am
    LOL Love the graphic!!! debo Send a private message to debo Aug 28 2009, 11:26am
    How do I say "YAY" in 3D? Earl Send a private message to Earl Aug 28 2009, 11:39am
    Is it just me... Parker Send a private message to Parker Aug 28 2009, 11:52am
    Good good! Consistency till death! xxxyyy Send a private message to xxxyyy Aug 28 2009, 12:21pm
        I love consistancy, too. And LotR was in 2D. But... Patty Send a private message to Patty Aug 28 2009, 12:26pm
    Del Toro Said Exactly... Nothing. jimdorey Send a private message to jimdorey Aug 28 2009, 1:01pm
        a possible interpret. Mithrandír Send a private message to Mithrandír Aug 28 2009, 1:25pm
        Double-speak Gwynhyffar Send a private message to Gwynhyffar Aug 28 2009, 1:41pm
        How are 3D scripts different from 2D scripts? squire Send a private message to squire Aug 28 2009, 2:19pm
            Clearing up misconceptions jimdorey Send a private message to jimdorey Aug 28 2009, 2:30pm
                Perhaps Tim Send a private message to Tim Aug 28 2009, 2:39pm
                    He jimdorey Send a private message to jimdorey Aug 28 2009, 2:53pm
                        Mislead or sidestep... Tim Send a private message to Tim Aug 28 2009, 7:12pm
                            T Ceres_the_Dwarf_(planet) Send a private message to Ceres_the_Dwarf_(planet) Aug 30 2009, 6:36pm
                                Hmm.. Radagast_the_Brown Send a private message to Radagast_the_Brown Aug 30 2009, 7:17pm
                                Regardless- Guillermo Aug 30 2009, 7:55pm
                                    WM3-D .......Love it! farmer maggot Send a private message to farmer maggot Aug 30 2009, 8:15pm
                                    Nice one G. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Aug 30 2009, 8:30pm
                                    LOL // Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Aug 30 2009, 8:39pm
                                        LOL! Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Aug 30 2009, 9:37pm
                                    Okay, I get the absurdity... Ceres_the_Dwarf_(planet) Send a private message to Ceres_the_Dwarf_(planet) Aug 30 2009, 8:43pm
                                    Period. Full stop! grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Aug 31 2009, 1:18am
                                    G's Not a Crook! Tim Send a private message to Tim Aug 31 2009, 1:19am
                                    Sounds pretty clear to me.... Donry Send a private message to Donry Aug 31 2009, 3:54pm
                                    LOL! Alassëa Eruvande Send a private message to Alassëa Eruvande Sep 4 2009, 2:57pm
                                        [no subject] mordor89 Send a private message to mordor89 Sep 19 2009, 6:55pm
                        I'd just like to say... Buchanicus Send a private message to Buchanicus Aug 28 2009, 9:17pm
                            I saw the Avatar trailer on a 2D screen... Snaga Send a private message to Snaga Aug 28 2009, 11:13pm
                                Maybe augmented reality is a part of the answer to future 3D reality, if you don't want to wear those glasses? Theodred Send a private message to Theodred Aug 30 2009, 7:38pm
                                    Didn't look that impressive to me shadowdog Send a private message to shadowdog Aug 31 2009, 4:32pm
                                        Why on a screen? Theodred Send a private message to Theodred Aug 31 2009, 8:51pm
                                            this here is the very reason weathertop Send a private message to weathertop Aug 31 2009, 9:07pm
                                                That will probably also change in the future, Theodred Send a private message to Theodred Aug 31 2009, 9:27pm
                                                Want! Ainu Laire Send a private message to Ainu Laire Sep 1 2009, 9:19am
                                            Wow, flashback to Fahrenheit 451. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Aug 31 2009, 9:28pm
                                            No. Eowyn of Penns Woods Send a private message to Eowyn of Penns Woods Sep 1 2009, 4:00am
                                                I have to disagree with you I'm afraid. Theodred Send a private message to Theodred Sep 1 2009, 9:06pm
                                                    Then call it a hybrid? Eowyn of Penns Woods Send a private message to Eowyn of Penns Woods Sep 1 2009, 10:36pm
                    yes Mithrandír Send a private message to Mithrandír Aug 28 2009, 3:15pm
            Well said Tim Send a private message to Tim Aug 28 2009, 2:33pm
        How do you punish your anonymous sources when they're wrong? N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Aug 28 2009, 3:08pm
            Sources aren't responsible when the situation changes. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Aug 28 2009, 9:39pm
                Acountability Tim Send a private message to Tim Aug 28 2009, 9:50pm
                Did the situation change? N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Aug 28 2009, 10:29pm
                    As I recall, he said he wanted to... Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Aug 29 2009, 8:07am
                        Well reasoned... jimdorey Send a private message to jimdorey Aug 29 2009, 3:26pm
                            Oh, well- Guillermo Aug 30 2009, 6:01am
                                Thank you! Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Aug 30 2009, 7:17am
                                Thankyou... Radagast_the_Brown Send a private message to Radagast_the_Brown Aug 30 2009, 7:25am
                                Thank you Peredhil lover Send a private message to Peredhil lover Aug 30 2009, 10:44am
                                Thank you for giving us the most definitive reply possible on this! farmer maggot Send a private message to farmer maggot Aug 30 2009, 10:59am
                                    I believe Jim- Guillermo Aug 30 2009, 11:10am
                                        That clears that up... CuChulainn Send a private message to CuChulainn Aug 30 2009, 11:54am
                                        Well yeah Jim ain't the Devil Tim Send a private message to Tim Aug 30 2009, 3:58pm
                                        Add me to the "thank you's" Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Aug 30 2009, 4:08pm
                                            Good questions.... Tim Send a private message to Tim Aug 30 2009, 4:16pm
                                            1's and 0's Tim Send a private message to Tim Aug 31 2009, 1:54am
                                                Read anything from your old 5" floppies lately, or some Wordstar files from college? squire Send a private message to squire Aug 31 2009, 3:03am
                                                    oh, no man fer sure dvd's ain't going to be around long Tim Send a private message to Tim Aug 31 2009, 5:19am
                                                        Well... Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Aug 31 2009, 6:53am
                                                        One last thing Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Aug 31 2009, 7:32am
                                        Thank you for the comments and added extras! farmer maggot Send a private message to farmer maggot Aug 30 2009, 5:56pm
                                        Aha! Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 30 2009, 9:30pm
                                        *huge smile* grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Aug 31 2009, 1:40am
                                Thank you, sir! Ainu Laire Send a private message to Ainu Laire Aug 30 2009, 12:29pm
                                Thanks Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Aug 30 2009, 12:50pm
                                Woot Guillermo to the rescue! Tim Send a private message to Tim Aug 30 2009, 3:44pm
                                    Doubts About No 3D Weren't Unreasonable Ceres_the_Dwarf_(planet) Send a private message to Ceres_the_Dwarf_(planet) Aug 30 2009, 4:11pm
                                        That's not what was being claimed Tim Send a private message to Tim Aug 30 2009, 4:51pm
            PJ jimdorey Send a private message to jimdorey Aug 29 2009, 3:13pm
                So did the situation change this time too? N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Aug 30 2009, 7:40am
                    hehe... Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Aug 30 2009, 12:52pm
        GdT is the co-screenwriter as well as the director Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Aug 28 2009, 3:23pm
        With all respect, are you kidding? MrCere Send a private message to MrCere Aug 28 2009, 11:19pm
            *stands up in the audience and says "yeah" to what MrCere just said* Tim Send a private message to Tim Aug 28 2009, 11:43pm
            Well said! *applause* Peredhil lover Send a private message to Peredhil lover Aug 29 2009, 7:35am
            I don't know jimdorey Send a private message to jimdorey Aug 29 2009, 3:17pm
            PERIOD! Full Stop! Well done, sir :) // grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Aug 29 2009, 4:41pm
    Yeah he did say no Tim Send a private message to Tim Aug 28 2009, 1:58pm
    Amazing Garfeimao Send a private message to Garfeimao Aug 28 2009, 4:19pm
    Just a thought here because both views may be 'right' farmer maggot Send a private message to farmer maggot Aug 28 2009, 4:22pm
    Good! Compa_Mighty Send a private message to Compa_Mighty Aug 28 2009, 4:50pm
    Those malicious Interwebs lumpkin Send a private message to lumpkin Aug 29 2009, 3:05am
        lumpkin!!!!! grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Aug 29 2009, 4:48pm
        Hi Lumpkin! Patty Send a private message to Patty Aug 29 2009, 6:40pm

 
 
 

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