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Think of it from another perspective.

Silverlode
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Jun 14 2009, 7:43am


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Instead of asking "How can we show what is going on inside Bilbo?, the filmmakers should be asking "How can we make the audience feel the same way as Bilbo?" It seems to me that the answer to this problem is Gollum.

Go back a page or so, and you'll find the beginning of a conversation between Gollum and Smeagol. It doesn't say so, but given how we've already seen that double personality displayed, it's easy to see the division. Here's how I envision the scene playing out.

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Gollum is leading the invisible Bilbo unknowingly toward the exit. He comes to the mouth of the tunnel leading to the goblins' back door. He peers in and shrinks back.

Smeagol: "But we dursn't go in, precious, no we dursn't. Goblinses down there. Lots of goblinses. We smells them. Ssss!"

Gollum: "What shall we do? Curse them and crush them! We must wait here, precious, wait a bit and see."

Gollum sits humped up right in the opening, eyes gleaming green in the dark, head swaying from side to side.

Cut to Bilbo. He stops uncertainly, then begins to creep slowly forward. Gollum stiffens and looks in his direction. He leans forward, his hands on the ground in front of him. His eyes glow and he hisses menacingly.

Gollum (whispers): "Sss! We smells it, the Baggins. It stole the Precious from us. We hates it, we does! We must find it, we must catch it, gollum, gollum!"

Cut to Bilbo. Close up on his face, showing fear and disgust. His face is smeared with sweat and dust. He takes a slow, deep breath and his hand clenches on Sting's hilt as he nerves himself to fight. He begins to very slowly draw it out of its scabbard.

Smeagol (weeping): "It has the Precious, the Precious is lost to us! We are lost without it, lost in the dark. All alone in the dark under the cold stone we are. Never safe now from the nassty sneaking goblinses. Always alone, Precious, always hungry, always hiding. Oh my Precious, my Precious, we are lost....."

Bilbo hesitates, then slowly lets go of Sting. His face sets in determination, then he rushes forward and leaps over Gollum. He nearly stumbles on landing but recovers his balance and runs down the tunnel, followed by the shrieking of Gollum who is frantically feeling about the passage after him.

Gollum (shrieking and wailing in despair): "Thief, thief, thief! Baggins! We hates it, we hates it, we hates it for ever!"

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I think, given what we've seen from Andy Serkis and the Gollum animators, that it is quite possible to make the audience feel the same pity for Smeagol that Bilbo does, and if the actor playing Bilbo does a decent job of showing his emotions on his face, the audience will understand his position and get the full impact of the situation.

If anything more were needed after this, it would only be a confiding comment from Bilbo to Gandalf later on that it may have been foolish, but when it came right to it, he could not bring himself to kill such a pitiful creature, unarmed and unaware.

Silverlode

"Of all faces those of our familiares are the ones both most difficult to play fantastic tricks with, and most difficult really to see with fresh attention. They have become like the things which once attracted us by their glitter, or their colour, or their shape, and we laid hands on them, and then locked them in our hoard, acquired them, and acquiring ceased to look at them.
Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you."
-On Fairy Stories

Subject User Time
Another unfilmable paragraph? Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Jun 14 2009, 2:53am
    How about this? Finding Frodo Send a private message to Finding Frodo Jun 14 2009, 3:45am
        That's better than anything I can think of Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Jun 14 2009, 4:03am
            well, if they had an actor as good as Jimmy Stewart . . . Annael Send a private message to Annael Jun 17 2009, 3:27pm
                Great example! Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jun 17 2009, 4:10pm
        Well done! sador Send a private message to sador Jun 14 2009, 6:00am
    Think of it from another perspective. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Jun 14 2009, 7:43am
        Yes - if the actor can show dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Jun 14 2009, 4:41pm
            The thing that really makes it possible Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Jun 14 2009, 7:50pm
    You don't film paragraphs. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jun 14 2009, 9:02pm
        You don't film books either. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Jun 14 2009, 9:55pm
            Oh, I thought that was the issue... FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jun 15 2009, 10:31am
        But you might film "moments" squire Send a private message to squire Jun 14 2009, 10:32pm
            Yes indeed. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jun 15 2009, 10:04am
    Film is a visual medium. A filmmaker should not, I judge, Curious Send a private message to Curious Jun 15 2009, 5:48am
        The darkness is a serious problem. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jun 15 2009, 10:26am
    interesting question Jettorex Send a private message to Jettorex Jun 15 2009, 3:12pm
    It depends on the actor. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jun 15 2009, 4:52pm
        Well Said Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Jun 15 2009, 5:24pm
            Lots of hammers in "The Hobbit", none proverbial. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Jun 15 2009, 5:52pm
                It took me a while to figure out what you were referring to Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Jun 15 2009, 9:06pm
                How were the clothes in the troll-cave hanging from the walls? sador Send a private message to sador Jun 16 2009, 6:36am
                    Snails, too. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Jun 16 2009, 1:03pm
                        And trails. Lots of trails Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Jun 16 2009, 1:17pm
                            "Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world, but for...?" // N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Jun 16 2009, 3:48pm
                        That's way beyond my pail. sador Send a private message to sador Jun 16 2009, 1:18pm
                            And quite a tale. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Jun 16 2009, 3:35pm
                        and a Jail Jettorex Send a private message to Jettorex Jun 16 2009, 1:56pm
                            Yes, but not by that name. // N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Jun 16 2009, 4:03pm
                Only one? FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jun 16 2009, 4:27pm
                    try's to think of a rhyme cameragod Send a private message to cameragod Jun 17 2009, 10:20am
        But aren't you begging the question? FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jun 17 2009, 1:29pm
            The answer is "no". Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jun 17 2009, 3:16pm
                Okay. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jun 17 2009, 3:57pm

 
 
 

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