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Thank you, Magpie!

FarFromHome
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Mar 22 2007, 9:41am


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I'm finally back online, and have just read your very enlightening explanation about 'aleatoric' music. So that's what it was! I was in my school's orchestra many, many decades ago, so I was vaguely aware that there are sometimes directions to play notes at the player's own discretion, and that this gives a very different effect from playing as a group. It's interesting to watch too - I've been at concerts where the violin bows are all going wildly up and down randomly, instead of smoothly moving as a group!

I really like weaver's point about time seeming to stand still, and I imagine one element that causes this is that with aleatoric music there is no clear pattern, no line of melody that seems to move the music forward. It really does echo that sense of being frozen, with the senses in turmoil.

The other way movies show this 'time standing still' effect is with slo-mo, and in the movies I think this is often accompanied by no music at all. I'm thinking particularly of the moment when Aragorn turns and runs up the steps after Gandalf falls at the Bridge of Khazad-Dum. I haven't had a chance to check though - perhaps there is music (humming maybe?). I'm going to be looking out for examples of this too, the next time I watch the movies!

I'd be interested to know how much this technique of aleatoric music is used in "mainstream" (18th-19th century) classical music. It seems very appropriate for a film score, which has to convey very specific emotions and sensations, but I'm pretty sure it's used in symphonic music too. One obvious example might be to simulate hunting-horns, as Shore does with the music designed for the Black Riders at the Ford. (The Wikipedia entry seems to be about something much more technical and modern, where the actual music is determined by chance.)

Thanks again, Magpie, for a very interesting quiz. I love the way these movies (like the book) keep leading me to new discoveries, thanks to people like you!

...and the sails were drawn up, and the wind blew,
and slowly the ship slipped away down the long grey firth;
and the light of the glass of Galadriel that Frodo bore
glimmered and was lost.

Subject User Time
Movie Music Trivia Game #3 Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Mar 10 2007, 9:56pm
    Scary! FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Mar 12 2007, 5:37pm
        You are fun to play with... Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Mar 12 2007, 6:00pm
    Tricksier and tricksier... weaver Send a private message to weaver Mar 12 2007, 11:00pm
    Hmmm... Trixie Hobbit Send a private message to Trixie Hobbit Mar 17 2007, 1:13pm
    Here there be Answers! Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Mar 17 2007, 4:56pm
        Recap of answers Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Mar 17 2007, 5:37pm
        Aleotoric! I learned something new! weaver Send a private message to weaver Mar 19 2007, 5:32pm
            OOH... very cool analogy Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Mar 19 2007, 5:51pm
                processing time... weaver Send a private message to weaver Mar 19 2007, 6:16pm
        Thank you, Magpie! FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Mar 22 2007, 9:41am
            some references to aleatoric music Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Mar 22 2007, 11:36am
    Difficult one this week linkin-artelf Send a private message to linkin-artelf Mar 18 2007, 2:26am
    Aha! aleatoric! linkin-artelf Send a private message to linkin-artelf Mar 18 2007, 2:36am
        Thanks for participating LA. Your prize is in the mail. ;^) n/t Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Mar 18 2007, 3:06am

 
 
 

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