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merklynn
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Jun 3 2008, 2:20am


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I think we all live by labels. It is human culture to categorize things in order to memorize and learn from them. We do it from birth. One experience leads us to define another. One example, gives us something to measure another by. With films, particularly ones we enjoy, we want to revisit those same moods and themes. It is important that we all understand that the categories into which we lump things in our minds are not rigid and that there are constantly new twists and surprises for each of us when we discover something that does not fit perfectly into one or another. So understanding this and keeping aware of it is the best way to remain open minded in general.

Personally, one of the lessons I have found hardest to learn over the years, but I think I have finally grasped it, is that adaptations are simply that. Adaptations. Interpretations of one person, or group of people. Their differences alone should not be enough to diminish their enjoyment. Differences in taste however are fair game to all, and politely respecting that someone's version of a story differs from your own, is the best way to handle it. In PJs case I enjoyed the Frighteners, and Heavenly Creatures, but was never big into gore and did not like his earlier stuff, purely because of my own sensibilities. But there are few better examples thant Guillermo and Peter when it comes to the range of films they want to tackle. I think Lovely Bones, King Kong, LOTR, Heavenly Creatures, The Frighteners, Brain Dead / Dead Alive are about as wide ranging a canvass as a director can have. Guillermo has a very similar range of genres with The Devil's Backbone, Pan's Labyrinth, Blade II, and Hellboy, not to mention those I have not yet seen. So what I'm trying to say is that I'm not sucking up, I'll be the first to post in these forums that The Hobbit didn't work for me if it didn't, but I expect to give GDT the respect that it is his interpretation. No one can touch my own personal Middle-earth after all.

The facts are both directors as artists are capable of many forms of expression and have many interests. It is a shame that they can become pigeon-holed by the industy, much like actors can become stereotyped. Take my new signature for example... am I not stereotyping? To be honest, I don't think so, since the particular shots are taken from a time travel film... but we all have expectations of what our hero should look like, and what a book should look like in our heads. Some people want to be surprised, others want the director and their own vision to match as closely as possible. I fall somewhere between the two, but I respect that it is GDTs project, not mine.



(This post was edited by merklynn on Jun 3 2008, 2:23am)

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OT (?) Of Hellboy II... Guillermo Jun 2 2008, 11:51pm
    Magic vs Science merklynn Send a private message to merklynn Jun 3 2008, 12:03am
        Please Dúnedain Send a private message to Dúnedain Jun 3 2008, 10:25pm
            Hey, go evil elves, that's what I say! // merklynn Send a private message to merklynn Jun 3 2008, 10:58pm
                Funny- Guillermo Jun 3 2008, 11:47pm
                    Am I alone in.... Bilbo the Rover Send a private message to Bilbo the Rover Jun 3 2008, 11:53pm
                        You're not alone... merklynn Send a private message to merklynn Jun 4 2008, 2:39am
                    I think Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Jun 4 2008, 5:40am
                    good taste Earos tar-Alqualonde Send a private message to Earos tar-Alqualonde Jun 4 2008, 2:37pm
                    Art....and Hellboy Glaurung63 Send a private message to Glaurung63 Jun 15 2008, 12:28am
        Hmm tough choice Merklynn Kelvarhin Send a private message to Kelvarhin Jun 4 2008, 5:05am
    My husband and I loved Hellboy so much... Woodyend Send a private message to Woodyend Jun 3 2008, 12:12am
        There is some great source material MrCere Send a private message to MrCere Jun 3 2008, 1:52am
            Thanks for the info I will. Woodyend Send a private message to Woodyend Jun 3 2008, 2:05am
    Heh - good luck with that. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Jun 3 2008, 12:22am
    Well, Laerasëa Send a private message to Laerasëa Jun 3 2008, 12:24am
    You had me at Telperion313 Send a private message to Telperion313 Jun 3 2008, 12:30am
    It is great of you to come by and post this. Compa_Mighty Send a private message to Compa_Mighty Jun 3 2008, 12:42am
    We try to support the artistic endeavors of those in our message board community MrCere Send a private message to MrCere Jun 3 2008, 1:51am
        Pigeon-holing merklynn Send a private message to merklynn Jun 3 2008, 2:20am
            Hear Hear Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Jun 3 2008, 6:12am
        Well Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jun 3 2008, 2:26am
            It's not just us FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jun 3 2008, 10:17am
        Renaissance men and the rest... Compa_Mighty Send a private message to Compa_Mighty Jun 3 2008, 3:13am
        Because most of Hollywood is derivative entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Jun 3 2008, 3:43am
            Not the reason Solicitr Send a private message to Solicitr Jun 4 2008, 11:43am
        Because thinking outside the box involves risk. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Jun 3 2008, 4:52am
        It took Spielberg years to make Schindler's List Eledhwen Send a private message to Eledhwen Jun 3 2008, 6:09am
        As someone who appreciates grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Jun 3 2008, 9:27am
            Dear Voorhas Guillermo Jun 3 2008, 9:56am
                Clark Ashton Smith Voorhas Send a private message to Voorhas Jun 3 2008, 3:35pm
            Nice fresh take GMa {NT} MrCere Send a private message to MrCere Jun 3 2008, 9:25pm
        well Annael Send a private message to Annael Jun 3 2008, 2:31pm
        Stephen King is a good example deej Send a private message to deej Jun 3 2008, 5:16pm
            Yes Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jun 3 2008, 5:34pm
    I'm hoping to rent Cronos entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Jun 3 2008, 3:26am
        I just watched 'Cronos'. deej Send a private message to deej Jun 3 2008, 5:01pm
    I'll definitely be there... Empedocles Send a private message to Empedocles Jun 3 2008, 3:35am
    I'll be watching! tedster88 Send a private message to tedster88 Jun 3 2008, 4:45am
    You Had Me at "Dunsany" Voorhas Send a private message to Voorhas Jun 3 2008, 4:55am
        pssst... grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Jun 3 2008, 2:31pm
            Thanks!// Voorhas Send a private message to Voorhas Jun 3 2008, 3:37pm
    SPECULATION Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Jun 3 2008, 5:51am
    Darn, and I was so looking forward to... ShadoFaxs Send a private message to ShadoFaxs Jun 3 2008, 10:34am
        I've watched Hellboy... Donry Send a private message to Donry Jun 4 2008, 3:54pm
    My one regret grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Jun 3 2008, 2:42pm
    Mike Mignola's graphic novels deej Send a private message to deej Jun 3 2008, 5:09pm
    In Fan Boy Heaven ! Bilbo the Rover Send a private message to Bilbo the Rover Jun 3 2008, 5:52pm
    That's good ot hear . . . One Ringer Send a private message to One Ringer Jun 3 2008, 9:59pm
    Class Act... bowencm Send a private message to bowencm Jun 4 2008, 2:03am
        Creativity and Uniqueness ArathornJax Send a private message to ArathornJax Jun 4 2008, 2:40am
            Does that mean that Sam Raimi might have been good for TH despite his resume? // merklynn Send a private message to merklynn Jun 4 2008, 2:50am
                Depends ArathornJax Send a private message to ArathornJax Jun 4 2008, 3:50am
                A Question Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Jun 4 2008, 3:54am
                    Elaboration... merklynn Send a private message to merklynn Jun 4 2008, 5:30pm
                I would love to see Raimi's "Hobbit" MrCere Send a private message to MrCere Jun 4 2008, 5:21am
                    How about Tarantino's hobbit? / Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jun 4 2008, 8:36pm
                        I'd watch that! NottaSackville Send a private message to NottaSackville Jun 4 2008, 9:02pm
                        "Kill Bilbo"? N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Jun 4 2008, 9:39pm
                            I was thinking "Reservoir Dwarves" / Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jun 5 2008, 3:49pm
                    i'd kind of like to see Henry Selick's version deej Send a private message to deej Jun 5 2008, 2:14pm
    those ears are far too pointy. Gethsemane Send a private message to Gethsemane Jun 4 2008, 1:16pm
    continuity backwards Mithrandír Send a private message to Mithrandír Jun 4 2008, 4:52pm
    ACK! GDT says The Hobbit will be done using wooden puppets!!! NottaSackville Send a private message to NottaSackville Jun 4 2008, 9:05pm
        In Supermarionation!! Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jun 4 2008, 9:12pm
    No worries here! Kyriel Send a private message to Kyriel Jun 4 2008, 11:38pm
        Yeah! Eruthurin Send a private message to Eruthurin Jun 4 2008, 11:55pm
    I have to ask about the Earth Elemental and the Prince... Nickey08 Send a private message to Nickey08 Aug 30 2008, 5:24am

 
 
 

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