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17 years

FarFromHome
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May 27 2008, 11:20am


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seems like a lot of time for Merry and Pippin to keep up their adolescent lifestyles! And for Sam to nurse his feelings for Rosie.


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The film managed to elide the time after Bilbo's departure to Gandalf's return in such a way that we do not perceive elapsed time, whether 17 years or a few months.



In the book, Sam, Merry and Pippin are much younger than Frodo, and we only really get to know them 17 years later, when they're young adults (although we do meet the young Merry after the party).

Frodo, as we know, still looks like a young adult 17 years after the Party, because his appearance has been affected by the Ring, so the passage of 17 years in the film could be explained away for him. But it's much harder to explain those years away for the other hobbits.

(On the other hand, it wouldn't be hard to imagine a gap of a year or two - that's certainly within the bounds of credibility. And that might allow time to tell the story of what Gandalf and Aragorn were up to between the Party and the Gandalf's return.)

...and the sails were drawn up, and the wind blew,
and slowly the ship slipped away down the long grey firth;
and the light of the glass of Galadriel that Frodo bore
glimmered and was lost.

(This post was edited by FarFromHome on May 27 2008, 11:26am)

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Is the Single Movie Hobbit a contractual obligation? AlatarVinyamar Send a private message to AlatarVinyamar May 26 2008, 2:28pm
    Maybe not contractually... leo Send a private message to leo May 26 2008, 2:40pm
        I disagree SeanDuff Send a private message to SeanDuff May 26 2008, 3:55pm
            Late introductions Altaira Send a private message to Altaira May 26 2008, 5:25pm
                Parallel timelines merklynn Send a private message to merklynn May 26 2008, 5:54pm
                    Dol Guldur FrodoEyes Send a private message to FrodoEyes May 26 2008, 6:19pm
                        The Appendices also say: Altaira Send a private message to Altaira May 26 2008, 7:17pm
                            Yeah but that last event took place before the events in... leo Send a private message to leo May 26 2008, 7:28pm
                                True Altaira Send a private message to Altaira May 26 2008, 7:38pm
                                    2 centavos- Guillermo May 26 2008, 10:17pm
                                        That's very reassuring burrahobbit Send a private message to burrahobbit May 26 2008, 10:32pm
                                        Thank you! AlatarVinyamar Send a private message to AlatarVinyamar May 26 2008, 10:46pm
                                        Thanks for the clarification Altaira Send a private message to Altaira May 26 2008, 11:21pm
                                        and that makes me think .. Elven Send a private message to Elven May 26 2008, 11:33pm
                                        Thank you ,Guillermo. ShadoFaxs Send a private message to ShadoFaxs May 27 2008, 1:17am
                                        Thank you! Peredhil lover Send a private message to Peredhil lover May 27 2008, 5:30am
                                        Thank you Guillermo fingolfin_nc Send a private message to fingolfin_nc May 27 2008, 8:40pm
                                        Well Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone May 27 2008, 8:58pm
                                        And in the end... dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn May 28 2008, 12:11am
                                        *broad smile* You can't ask better than that! grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg May 28 2008, 1:18am
                                        For Guillermo & Co: A Holm-Related HOBBIT Idea! Faramond Send a private message to Faramond Jun 2 2008, 8:18pm
                    The hunt for Gollum Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth May 26 2008, 6:55pm
                        It would make for an interesting movie though leo Send a private message to leo May 26 2008, 7:30pm
                        Is there a 17-year gap in the film of FotR? // N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand May 27 2008, 3:52am
                            Not in the film, but I think it is in the book // Kelvarhin Send a private message to Kelvarhin May 27 2008, 4:06am
                            It's not necessarily not in the film Arwen's daughter Send a private message to Arwen's daughter May 27 2008, 4:33am
                                It was very cleverly done. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth May 27 2008, 7:33am
                                    I always got the impression from the film Kelvarhin Send a private message to Kelvarhin May 27 2008, 7:36am
                                    You said it Earl Send a private message to Earl May 27 2008, 8:59am
                                        I'm hoping for new storylines in Film2 burrahobbit Send a private message to burrahobbit May 27 2008, 1:08pm
                                            Hmm... you have a point Earl Send a private message to Earl May 27 2008, 1:51pm
                                                Gandalf's vigilance good theme burrahobbit Send a private message to burrahobbit May 27 2008, 2:22pm
                                                    The question is... AlatarVinyamar Send a private message to AlatarVinyamar May 27 2008, 2:35pm
                                                        Agree- Dol Guldur would work as a climax burrahobbit Send a private message to burrahobbit May 27 2008, 3:14pm
                                                        I love the Gandalf Vigilante idea Empedocles Send a private message to Empedocles May 27 2008, 3:14pm
                                    17 years FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome May 27 2008, 11:20am
                            It depends on how you look at it Earl Send a private message to Earl May 27 2008, 8:48am

 
 
 

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