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squire
Half-elven
Jun 4 2010, 9:18pm
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It was always going to be two movies
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I have never seen anything about The Hobbit project - as a project, so to speak - ever being anything but two films. Sure, there was the idea of The Hobbit as one film, but it was unbreakably joined in the same production cycle to the "bridge film" which would "fill in" the adventure between the events of The Hobbit and the events of The Lord of the Rings. I even think that Del Toro was hired on the assumption that he would make those two films. If I remember, Jackson then announced only a few months after Del Toro came on board, that they had officially abandoned the bridge film concept, and would henceforth be working on the project as a two-film production of just The Hobbit story. Del Toro suggested that it was he who convinced Jackson and the writers that that was the way to go simply on the basis of the length and complexity of The Hobbit book. (Unconvincingly, as far as I'm concerned. It's called "adaptation". You abridge the book to make it fit the film format. Only if you are already under contract to produce two blockbuster films, and you find that the concept of one of them is fatally flawed, do you decide that the book "has to" be filmed as two features!) Still, as much as I regret Jackson's initial thoughtless impulse to commit to two films, which will now result in a bloated mega-Hobbit, I can't say that that is the reason for the present debacle. MGM's problems transcend relatively minor bad decisions like a two-film "prequel" to LotR. On the other hand, were this project to be just one film right now, it's conceivable that Del Toro would still be hanging in there, knowing he had only one film to shoot, edit and promote in the 18 months after a greenlight.
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hobbit movie GDT
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pasi
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Jun 3 2010, 8:48pm
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pasi: I think that we need to wait to hear from GDT.
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 3 2010, 8:58pm
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The explanation
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pasi
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Jun 3 2010, 9:04pm
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I know it is GDTs explaination but it is a good place to start.
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 3 2010, 9:12pm
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-Most Likely
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Pipe Dream
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Jun 3 2010, 11:34pm
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hobbit movie GDT
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pasi
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Jun 3 2010, 11:43pm
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Eucatastrophy...my secret wish also...//
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 3 2010, 11:53pm
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maybe we just need to post it on the Eucatastrophy thread
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Oiotári
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Jun 4 2010, 12:30am
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"we have to wait so many days"
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Oiotári
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Jun 3 2010, 11:01pm
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He did say this week...//
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 3 2010, 11:22pm
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yes, I know he did
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Oiotári
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Jun 3 2010, 11:26pm
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hobbit movie GDT
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pasi
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Jun 3 2010, 11:54pm
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The situation is hardly as simple
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duats
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Jun 3 2010, 9:11pm
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GDT versus Hobbit
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pasi
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Jun 3 2010, 9:21pm
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I understand
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duats
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Jun 3 2010, 9:24pm
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2- The Hobbit is not so important to GDT to wait a little more?
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Woodyend
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Jun 3 2010, 9:13pm
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RE your issues:
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Elizabeth
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Jun 3 2010, 9:56pm
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I'm confused about the three years versus six years
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 3 2010, 10:33pm
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I assume PJ was speaking off-hand and not being precise.
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 3 2010, 10:47pm
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Not being precise is one thing,
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 3 2010, 10:55pm
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Its that Hobbit years versus Human years thingy.//
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 4 2010, 12:29am
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Just speculation, but perhaps
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Silverlode
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Jun 4 2010, 1:19am
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This seems well thought out and reasonable
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 4 2010, 1:25am
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That's exactly what the TORn press release said
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Altaira
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Jun 4 2010, 10:35am
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I'm still asking myself:
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Theodred
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Jun 4 2010, 8:50pm
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Hobbit project in trouble
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pasi
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Jun 4 2010, 9:11pm
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A few days ago I've read again the interview in the June 2009 Empire's edition,
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Theodred
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Jun 4 2010, 9:48pm
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Thanks for posting those scans
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R11
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Jun 4 2010, 10:13pm
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Because
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shadowdog
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Jun 4 2010, 10:29pm
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That really is the truth of it
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 6 2010, 2:25pm
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As promised...
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Guillermo
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Jun 6 2010, 7:34pm
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Thank you
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dormouse
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Jun 6 2010, 7:58pm
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I do hope this is not the last we hear from you.
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 6 2010, 8:14pm
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Thanks, Guillermo.
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Silverlode
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Jun 6 2010, 8:30pm
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As another convert
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macfalk
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Jun 6 2010, 8:39pm
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All the best to you, Guillermo!
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Patty
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Jun 6 2010, 8:45pm
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You leave footprints
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Magpie
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Jun 6 2010, 9:00pm
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Best of luck to you, Guillermo!
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Altaira
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Jun 6 2010, 9:01pm
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While there is likely to be much that we will never know,
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 6 2010, 9:07pm
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Thank you for taking the time to post here--Wishing you and yours good health and uninterrupted prosperity. //
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7777777
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Jun 6 2010, 9:22pm
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us
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Oiotári
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Jun 6 2010, 9:27pm
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Thanks
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sharku
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Jun 6 2010, 9:32pm
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All the best, Guillermo
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Eledhwen
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Jun 6 2010, 10:00pm
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Thanks for all your work and family sacrifice..
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jschomburg
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Jun 6 2010, 10:02pm
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Good Luck!
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Alex Maglor
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Jun 6 2010, 10:02pm
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Thank you, Guillermo.
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dernwyn
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Jun 6 2010, 10:02pm
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Thank your for your care and passion for this project
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Starling
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Jun 6 2010, 10:15pm
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So sorry....
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Mishka
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Jun 6 2010, 10:15pm
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Thank you for your post and for the aknowledgement
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Compa_Mighty
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Jun 6 2010, 10:16pm
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GDT in cameo
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phredegar
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Jun 8 2010, 7:26am
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Oh Yes!! I'd love him to pop up in the story! *high five* //
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 8 2010, 2:37pm
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Thanks ...
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Oscarilbo
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Jun 6 2010, 10:23pm
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you sound like you need some chocolate
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Oiotári
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Jun 6 2010, 10:31pm
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Just as...
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Oscarilbo
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Jun 6 2010, 10:37pm
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what kind of supernatural thing did you have in mind?
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Oiotári
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Jun 6 2010, 10:48pm
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Thankyou Guillermo ...
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Elven
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Jun 6 2010, 10:46pm
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Look forward to seeing you at SDCC
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deej
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Jun 6 2010, 10:47pm
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Thank you
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aranelthehobbit22
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Jun 6 2010, 11:26pm
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As I've said before
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duats
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Jun 6 2010, 11:44pm
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Guillermo, to have such a talented director...
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Huan71
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Jun 6 2010, 11:48pm
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With best wishes for the future and much respect...
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AranNZ
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Jun 7 2010, 12:01am
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I'm not saying 'goodbye'
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Ataahua
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Jun 7 2010, 12:14am
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All the Best to you Memo
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rings7
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Jun 7 2010, 12:43am
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Thank you, and all the best to you, sir
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Ainu Laire
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Jun 7 2010, 1:19am
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I wish you all the best, and
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entmaiden
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Jun 7 2010, 1:27am
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*flying tackle-hug* You're a joy
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 7 2010, 2:23am
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You've been wonderful
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Eldameldo
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Jun 7 2010, 2:49am
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Thanks for everything.
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erugalathon1
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Jun 7 2010, 2:50am
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(J.R.R.Tolkien: ROTK): "Go in peace! I will not say : 'do not weep' for not all tears are evil."
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Ethel Duath
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Jun 7 2010, 3:33am
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Hail and well met, dear friend
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Garfeimao
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Jun 7 2010, 5:12am
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It is a little bit of community agony
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MrCere
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Jun 7 2010, 6:30am
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*raises mug* Hear, hear! *mods up* ///
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 7 2010, 9:30am
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Goodbye for now
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Doriath
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Jun 7 2010, 7:21am
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Sorry To See You Go
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MartyB
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Jun 7 2010, 10:05am
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Special thanks to your family as well
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ElanorTX
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Jun 7 2010, 10:40am
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This is the end of a chapter, not of a book, the story will go on...
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Earl
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Jun 7 2010, 11:04am
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Thanks Guillermo, for all of your input
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Jazmine
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Jun 7 2010, 11:51am
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Thank you, Guillermo - best of luck to you! //
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NottaSackville
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Jun 7 2010, 12:09pm
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Thank you and best wishes!
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hamlet
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Jun 7 2010, 2:31pm
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Thanks for everything!
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Idril Celebrindal
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Jun 7 2010, 3:18pm
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thank you
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Glaurung63
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Jun 7 2010, 5:12pm
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Your reputation is intact
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Rivendweller
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Jun 7 2010, 5:33pm
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Many Thanks
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Oden
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Jun 7 2010, 6:55pm
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thank you very much!
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Galadriel's ring
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Jun 7 2010, 7:16pm
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...
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SirDennisC
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Jun 7 2010, 9:32pm
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A sad farewell...
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galadriel
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Jun 7 2010, 10:26pm
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Your connection
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Vangalad
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Jun 7 2010, 11:20pm
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Many toasts in your honor to be found here!
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weaver
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Jun 8 2010, 12:19am
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Thank you, Guillermo,
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Alassëa Eruvande
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Jun 8 2010, 12:58am
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Thank you Guillermo
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Kelvarhin
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Jun 8 2010, 2:32am
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Thank you, Guillermo
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Finding Frodo
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Jun 8 2010, 3:06am
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Thanks for all you've given to this project, Guillermo.
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Kimi
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Jun 8 2010, 3:26am
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The Road goes ever on and on....
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stormcrow20
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Jun 8 2010, 3:27am
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GdT
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silneldor
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Jun 8 2010, 4:35am
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A simple thank you
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Amandil
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Jun 8 2010, 5:46am
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Thanks
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Donry
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Jun 8 2010, 6:30am
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Farewell in all you do!
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greendragon
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Jun 8 2010, 8:47am
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May the wind under your wings bear you where the sun sails and the moon walks
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_V_
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Jun 8 2010, 3:41pm
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Comments on del Toro's post
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Mark Sommer
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Jun 8 2010, 3:55pm
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My thought has been
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 8 2010, 4:34pm
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Thanks!
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Mark Sommer
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Jun 8 2010, 5:02pm
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my thoughts as well....
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Glaurung63
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Jun 8 2010, 11:37pm
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Thank you Guillermo!
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Buchanicus
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Jun 8 2010, 6:10pm
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Fare-Thee-Well
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willowgreylock
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Jun 8 2010, 8:30pm
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*Tears* Thanks for everything Guillermo, it's all I can say.... *hugs*
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Eruthurin
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Jun 8 2010, 9:50pm
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thanks for everything you have done and we appreciated the respect you have for us here best wishes always//
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tennie75
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Jun 8 2010, 10:49pm
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Sad
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jedihillis
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Jun 9 2010, 12:31am
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Deepest thanks, and may I add
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Tintallë
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Jun 9 2010, 5:12am
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*tears up* I totally understand your decision, and I think most or all of us here do.
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Kyriel
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Jun 9 2010, 10:28am
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GdT a gentleman
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pasi
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Jun 9 2010, 3:51pm
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Suggestion for GDT & Peter Jackson future "Middle-earth" projects: Numenor & Gondor ?
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Jai
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Jun 9 2010, 6:16pm
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Christopher Tolkien is unlikely to assist.
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N.E. Brigand
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Jun 9 2010, 9:06pm
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He might like opera, though
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squire
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Jun 9 2010, 10:52pm
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Doubtful.
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N.E. Brigand
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Jun 10 2010, 12:08am
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Here you go
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 10 2010, 8:55pm
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Wait.. where's the fat lady?
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squire
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Jun 10 2010, 9:28pm
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Well quibbled!
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 10 2010, 9:45pm
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Alternative scriptwriters for GDT/Jackson Numenor & Gondor movies ?
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Jai
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Jun 13 2010, 11:23am
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Thank you for all that you've done! //
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Eventides
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Jun 11 2010, 4:58pm
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Good Luck, Guillermo...
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M&M
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Jun 12 2010, 3:57pm
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Thank you ...
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aragons girl
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Aug 25 2010, 1:22am
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hobbit movie GDT
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pasi
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Jun 3 2010, 11:39pm
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Three, four, six, ...
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Elizabeth
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Jun 4 2010, 3:01am
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Good diggin'
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 4 2010, 3:06am
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In my experience as an attorney
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 4 2010, 4:25am
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It's the open-endedness that's the problem.
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Elizabeth
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Jun 4 2010, 7:06am
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Pssst VtF ...
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Elven
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Jun 6 2010, 12:00am
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I'm afraid I'm not sure what point you are trying to make
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 6 2010, 12:13am
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I thought it was
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shadowdog
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Jun 6 2010, 2:29am
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No one questions that MGM's finances are a mess
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 6 2010, 3:02am
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No your not ...
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Elven
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Jun 6 2010, 9:13am
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You still can
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 6 2010, 1:55pm
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Excellent, Elizabeth
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Altaira
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Jun 4 2010, 10:40am
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It's not the six years that I think is a stretch, its the three years
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 4 2010, 2:36pm
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If Universal was starting to put the heat on about GdT's commitment to them
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 4 2010, 2:49pm
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That's possible
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 4 2010, 2:54pm
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Passion for Tolkien
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pasi
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Jun 4 2010, 3:57pm
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Thank you for your kind words
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 4 2010, 4:24pm
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GdT a great direct
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pasi
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Jun 4 2010, 4:32pm
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Aha. I see where you're coming from now
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Altaira
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Jun 4 2010, 3:10pm
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It just boils down to one big (insert expletive of choice) mess! //
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Kangi Ska
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Jun 4 2010, 7:20pm
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I feel like the tracks were lost long ago
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Oiotári
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Jun 4 2010, 7:34pm
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We also don't know
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entmaiden
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Jun 4 2010, 1:33pm
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That's not correct
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 4 2010, 2:30pm
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Regardless, we still don't know
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entmaiden
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Jun 4 2010, 9:06pm
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It was always going to be two movies
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squire
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Jun 4 2010, 9:18pm
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AND, seeing how things
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grammaboodawg
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Jun 8 2010, 2:41pm
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While that does make sense
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jun 8 2010, 3:37pm
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hobbit movie GDT
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pasi
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Jun 3 2010, 11:31pm
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Fingers Crossed he changes his mind..
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hobbiton28
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Jun 8 2010, 5:53am
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strike 2 for peter jackson
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nelson forero
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Jun 13 2010, 11:07pm
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