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Legolas killing Grima was uncalled for but I can see where PJ needed to wrap up his character



Eruonen
Valinor


Aug 7 2021, 4:19pm


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Legolas killing Grima was uncalled for but I can see where PJ needed to wrap up his character

I know why it was inserted but it really is not justified.

Was killing Grima necessary within the movieverse? He stabbed Saruman but killing Grima was not going to prevent that after the fact.


Intergalactic Lawman
Rohan


Aug 9 2021, 7:09am


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Hmmm...

Didn't Gandalf say (paraphrasing here) "We need him alive" when talking about Saruman upon arrival...? Grima trying to kill him midway through a conversation when they were trying to get information from him was not helpful...


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Aug 9 2021, 1:38pm


Views: 1743
Well...


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Didn't Gandalf say (paraphrasing here) "We need him alive" when talking about Saruman upon arrival...? Grima trying to kill him midway through a conversation when they were trying to get information from him was not helpful...


If Gandalf was speaking of Saruman and Legolas shot Grima, I"m not sure what is your point?

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Eruonen
Valinor


Aug 9 2021, 1:58pm


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Grima stabbed him after being slapped and told he would never be free or words to that effect

 


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Aug 9 2021, 8:30pm


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Never mind.

Upon reflection, I was over-thinking your post. Apologies!

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FrodoEyes
Rivendell

Sep 2 2021, 5:50pm


Views: 1198
In the book...

... Hobbit archers shot Grima after he killed Saruman, so it was just echoing his book death.

'I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.'
'So do all who live to see such times but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.'


Wielder of Anduril
The Shire

Oct 25 2021, 9:44pm


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It was a justified, but not really necessary.

They wanted Saruman alive and a stabbing is not necessarily fatal. So I assumed it was to prevent Grima from continuing his attack in the event Saruman could have survived.

Was it necessary? No, given the fact Saruman was done for. But as a spur of the moment action to stop the attack I thought it made sense.

Overall I like parts of this scene, but it has some issues so I understand why it did not make the theatrical cut.