Oct 16 2018, 12:54pm
What I most like is the tone and mentality of the original novels. Where the movies match that, I like them, and also where they are exceeding what a book can do and are ingeniously well-made (e.g. costumes, sets, technical aspects, acting, music ...) I appreciate that.
However, being no fan of the movies' tendencies to make things (violence, danger) more extreme than they need to be, people acting OOC, inventing new characters or story arcs when not *well* invented ... (some are!) ...
These are the things I don't like so much. They're more obvious in the Hobbit than in the LoTR movies. So I could say I don't think the Hobbit Trilogy lives up to the LotR movies.
But ... my actual POV is different ... because – having purchased the original DVDs/BluRays first, of course – I prefer watching fan-edits. When watching a fan-edit it's obvious to me how much GREAT material is in the hobbit as well, and if I compare a Hobbit fan-edit and a LotR fan-edit, I like them both very much :-) So personally, in this sense, I think the hobbit movie material lives up to the LoTR movie material.
Btw, I wonder why New Line Cinema hasn't so far published any offical edit that more closely follows the books ... The Hobbit Trilogy, Book Nerd Version or something ... :-)
I think they could earn more money with that, and fans could chose which version they like to buy, so I don't entirely know why so far, nothing like that has been officially produced. Maybe it's just that it would be such an unconventional idea?
Am I overlooking something? Would that not be so good for some reason? What do you others think about that?
I’ll readily admit that I loathe fan edits because they destroy the director’s vision and intentions. Every frame of a movie is intentionally crafted and specifically selected to tell the story the director has in his/her mind and fan edits just butcher that. In my opinion an amateur editor can’t successfully reuse those frames to tell a different story except on the most superficial level. To me it’s like cutting up the Last Supper and pasting it back together again in a different way. Not that The Hobbit movies are masterpieces; that was the LotR trilogy.
First, Warner Brothers was the studio that funded The Hobbit movies.
Second, IIRC, real fan edits, especially for commercial purposes, are illegal because they contravene intellectual property laws. In other words, they are wrong legally as well as ethically. Of course Warner Brothers owns the films but does Jackson have any control? I don’t know.
Finally, I suspect that there is very little demand for a re-edited Hobbit except amongst book purists, probably not anywhere near enough to warrant the expense of re-editing, re-scoring, re-grading and so on. I wouldn’t even watch a re-edit, never mind buy it.
There are things I believe were mistakes in both the LOTR and TH movies, especially in the latter, and things I just don’t like. But they are what they are, forever.