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Faramir74
Bree

Nov 5 2014, 1:50pm


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Baggins... Shire...

When the Black Riders are looking for Frodo in FOTR, we see a Rider approach a man outside chopping wood. Do you think it was Farmer Maggot? Or perhaps the Old Gaffer? I'm not sure he was actually credited in the film cast.


Magpie
Immortal


Nov 5 2014, 2:26pm


Views: 5199
it is maggot... and he was in the credits with that name

http://www.amagpiesnest.com/a/p_characters-actors/hobbits/hobbits.htm

sorry I just can't seem to manage the click code with pasted URLs on my phone.


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Faramir74
Bree

Nov 5 2014, 2:55pm


Views: 5157
Thanks

For the link Magpie. So my second question is who are the two additional hobbbits with Frodo and Sam in the Green Dragon? It must be Ted Sandy man and the Gaffer!


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 5 2014, 7:35pm


Views: 5176
There are actually three additional hobbits in that scene

The Gaffer, Ted Sandyman and Old Noakes.



Magpie
Immortal


Nov 5 2014, 9:20pm


Views: 5107
BlackFox gave you the answer but...

the answer was on the same page I linked you to.

Which makes me think you didn't visit the page. ;-)

That's okay.. no one does. They're just hoping to get an answer and going to another page withe more info is too much work.


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dijomaja
Lorien

Nov 6 2014, 10:59am


Views: 5087
possible ID:

Thanks for the page, M. It probably doesn't matter but I know you like to tie up loose ends. There's an "unidentified Hobbit child" at the bottom of the page. I'm inclined to trust intuitive jumps and the first thing I thought of when I saw the photo was the scene where the children chase Gandalf's wagon as he enters Hobbiton and sets off some fireworks.


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 11 2014, 12:13am


Views: 5034
Hmmm. . .

I clicked on your "Old Noakes" link and "One Wiki" say the Ivy Bush was in Hobbiton. I always thought it was in Bywater?

Am I wrong? Unsure

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


Ithilisa
Rivendell

Nov 11 2014, 5:46am


Views: 5024
It's in Bywater


Quote
I always thought it was in Bywater? Am I wrong?


You're right, Bracegirdle. In FOTR: A Long- Expected Party, the text says "'[The Gaffer] held forth at The Ivy Bush, a small inn on the Bywater road;..."


"I name you Elf-friend; and may the stars shine upon the end of your road!" - Gildor


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 11 2014, 2:34pm


Views: 5011
Thank you Ithilisa - but

On second look Bywater Road runs through Bywater and through (or very close to Hobbiton). I don't take this map as absolutely accurate but I can find no textual reference as to exactly where the Ivy Bush is located except that it's on the Bywater Road. According to this map it could be in either Bywater or Hobbiton or somewhere in between?

Bywater Rd photo BywaterRoad.jpg

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 11 2014, 8:20pm


Views: 5009
I'm tempted to rule out Bywater

We already have The Green Dragon located there. Though this doesn't mean there couldn't have been more than one inn in Bywater, of course; it's just that I feel it's more likely The Ivy Bush is located either in Hobbiton or somewhere in between the two villages.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 11 2014, 10:18pm


Views: 5000
Makes some sense BlackFox. . .

Well now I think I’ve changed my mind (not completely). But it was likely close to or in Hobbiton. I wonder if Bilbo ran past The Ivy Bush on his way to meet the dwarves.

For fun BlackFox: How many taverns can you name (no peekee unless absolutely necessary). I know of seven. Tongue

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 12 2014, 9:33am


Views: 4981
I can think of six

Of which I can name five: The Prancing Pony, The Green Dragon, The Ivy Bush, The Floating Log and The Golden Perch. I know there was another inn near the Brandywine Bridge, but I can't remember what it was called.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 12 2014, 9:57am


Views: 4971
The Bridge Inn and The Forsaken Inn

You are Sooo good! Smile

And another name for the Brandywine Bridge?

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 12 2014, 10:06am


Views: 4966
Duh!

Umm... Umm... Umm... I'm afraid I don't know the answer to this one. Frown



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 12 2014, 10:29am


Views: 4960
Sorry BlackFox - didn't mean to bug you

It's 3:25 AM here and I've got a case of the no nods. Mad

And I'm just a trivia nut and blurted that out....

The Bridge of Stonebows

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 12 2014, 10:30am


Views: 4954
Don't worry, you didn't

Come, ask me another. Smile



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 12 2014, 10:38am


Views: 4957
OK

A name for the entryway through the High Hay into the Old Forest.

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 12 2014, 10:48am


Views: 4943
Do you mean the Buckland Gate...

... or that tunnel through which Frodo & Co. entered the Old Forest?



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 12 2014, 10:56am


Views: 4951
Yaay! Right. Also called the Hay Gate.

You get three, I say Three smiley faces SmileSmileSmile

And this guy's gonna try AGAIN to get some zzzzz-s

Tomorrow is another day.
Opps, took some z-s from Bomby

Cheers

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 12 2014, 11:03am


Views: 5001
Woot!

Night-night! Smile



Faramir74
Bree

Nov 17 2014, 9:31pm


Views: 4900
More trivia..

Ok Black Fox and Brace girdle - what did Sam claim his cousin Hal saw on the High Moors, up away in the North Farthing? Remember, no cheating!


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 17 2014, 9:41pm


Views: 4894
A walking elm tree? //

 



Faramir74
Bree

Nov 17 2014, 9:54pm


Views: 4884
Yep

Correct! If you are making for the Bucklebury Ferry and you take the road from Woodhall to Stock, what is that part of the Shire called?


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 17 2014, 9:57pm


Views: 4881
The Marish? //

 



Faramir74
Bree

Nov 17 2014, 10:07pm


Views: 4880
Yes!

Last one for tonight. Slightly outside of the Shire but.. what was the name of the West Gate keeper at Bree?


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 17 2014, 10:12pm


Views: 2221
I'm not sure

Was it Harry?



Faramir74
Bree

Nov 17 2014, 10:14pm


Views: 2218
Right again!

Now it's your turn and I'll think of the answer overnight.


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 17 2014, 10:28pm


Views: 2217
Alright...

What was the name of Farmer Maggot's farm?

Smile



Darkstone
Immortal


Nov 17 2014, 10:43pm


Views: 2217
Yasgur's? /

 

******************************************
"Kai provseisi, kai avpeisi."
("There and back again.")
-Heraclitus of Ephesus, c. 500 BC


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 17 2014, 10:53pm


Views: 2215
No, that's not it

Sorry, Darkstone. Tongue



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 18 2014, 4:36am


Views: 2202
Harry Goatleaf. . .

Give two names for the bridge where Aragorn found a beryl. Frown

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 18 2014, 4:41am


Views: 2211
Bamfurlong...

What nickname did Bombadil give Maggot? Cool

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


Faramir74
Bree

Nov 18 2014, 7:29am


Views: 2207
The answer is

The Last Bridge. Does it go over the Loudwater?

What is the distance between the Ferry and the Brandy wine Bridge?


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 18 2014, 10:03am


Views: 2198
Correct!

Easy peasy, eh? Now, the answer to your question is... umm... Maggotillo? AngelicTongue Alright, I don't know that one. Frown



BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 18 2014, 10:06am


Views: 2213
Over the Hoarwell

I'll leave the other question to Bracegirdle. Angelic



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 18 2014, 3:03pm


Views: 2192
Right-o Faramir


In Reply To
The Last Bridge. Does it go over the Loudwater?

What is the distance between the Ferry and the Brandy wine Bridge?


Also called the Bridge of Mithithel (sp?). No it doesn’t go over the Loudwater, it crosses the Hoarwell.


The distance – pure guess. I think the High Hay was about 20-25 miles, so I guess half- about 10 miles, Ferry to Bridge.

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 18 2014, 3:09pm


Views: 2186
Old Muddy Feet //

Up for grabs --

Give eight (no peeekeee) names for Gandalf.

I'll start - "Gandalf" Wink

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


Faramir74
Bree

Nov 18 2014, 3:31pm


Views: 2189
I can only remember

Gandalf
Mithrandir
Tharkun


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 18 2014, 4:12pm


Views: 2190
I'll add...

... Incanus, Olorin and Stormcrow.



BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 18 2014, 4:20pm


Views: 2182
And...

... Greyhame and Lathspell.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 18 2014, 4:46pm


Views: 2199
And I'll add to...

 Greyhame and Lathspell. Incanus, Olorin and Stormcrow. Gandalf
Mithrandir
Tharkun

Gandalf the Grey, the Grey Wanderer, the Grey Pilgrim, the White Rider, Gandalf the White (?Not sure on this one. I know he said something to the effect, "I am the White now.")

Looks like we have 13 as a community effort. Smile

Next question?? This is fun (for me). Love the trivia...Heart

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 18 2014, 4:54pm


Views: 2175
I've got one

Name as many tributaries of Anduin as you can. Smile



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 18 2014, 5:04pm


Views: 2182
Ouch! That’s a toughy..

Gladden
Limlight
Swanfleet
Entwash
Poros

I know there are bunches more. Help! Blush

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 18 2014, 5:10pm


Views: 2174
Good start!

Though Swanfleet is incorrect.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 18 2014, 5:23pm


Views: 2161
Thanks for the undeserved "good start"

I was on the wrong side of the Mtns. with Swanfleet.

How about Silverlode... (Du, du, Duumb me) Frown

And up north I think a Langwell.... Unsure

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 18 2014, 5:27pm


Views: 2167
That's six

Come on, I know you know at least a couple of more. AngelicTongue



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 18 2014, 5:39pm


Views: 2167
HELP!

I'd have to cheat to get any more.......

Lurkers JUMP IN PLEASE! Sly

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 18 2014, 6:19pm


Views: 2164
Euri? Did I say Poros? //

 

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 18 2014, 6:42pm


Views: 2160
Very good! Keep them coming!

Already named:
Entwash
Erui
Gladden
Langwell
Limlight
Poros
Silverlode

I have four more rivers in my list.



(This post was edited by BlackFox on Nov 18 2014, 6:43pm)


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 18 2014, 8:13pm


Views: 2150
OK. But I had to cheat..

Already named:
Entwash
Erui
Gladden
Langwell
Limlight
Poros
Silverlode
I have four more rivers in my list.


Greylin
Cirith (Sirith)
Morgulduin (though not named on any CJRT maps, it is in text)
Rushdown (From HOME - not on any map that I'm aware of and not in LOTR or Hobbit??)
Right?? Crazy

You made me squirm, oh yes you did. Mad

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 18 2014, 8:25pm


Views: 2415
P.S.

My big fold-out map of Rohan/Gondor shows a river flowing from the N. Mts. of Shadow thru Henneth Annun to just below Cair Andros.

Hmmm, thoughts?

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 18 2014, 8:37pm


Views: 2409
Well done!

It was a tough question, so I forgive you for cheating. Smile



BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 18 2014, 8:40pm


Views: 2410
Indeed

The only thing missing is a name. Hmm...



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 18 2014, 9:08pm


Views: 2403
Thanks BlackFox

It was a fun round of fun. 20 - 30 years ago I could have got them all (except Rushdown - HOME not out yet). But with age comes, "Where's my glasses? O here they are on my head!" Smile

I'm working on a game. Betcha I'll tweak your frustrator. Wink

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


(This post was edited by Bracegirdle on Nov 18 2014, 9:10pm)


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 18 2014, 9:12pm


Views: 2399
You're evil!

Keep in mind that I'm still a Tolkien-newbie. AngelicTongue



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 18 2014, 10:01pm


Views: 2393
NOT!

I’ve been a Tolkienophile for 45 years, yet I’m still but a lowly Gondorian while you (being the most knowledgeable Tolkien-newbie I can think of) are a Tol Eressean.

Is there no justice? Mad
Is Eressean a word? Crazy

You no doubt will take the lead should I ever finish… Unsure

And don't give me that AngelicAngelicAngelic look!

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 18 2014, 10:11pm


Views: 2399
Don't let my post count fool you

I post often, but I rarely have something meaningful to say. LaughTongue

And what's wrong with Angelic?

AngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicAngelicEvil



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 19 2014, 12:45am


Views: 2406
I know what you mean

But I post more rarely and usually have nothing of value to say. Wink
(Proof lies herein!)

Angelic Angelic Angelic indicates innocence or "I didn't do it!"

But you did start my frustrator with the rivers. Mad

Cheers attcha Smile

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


Faramir74
Bree

Nov 19 2014, 11:58am


Views: 2377
Ok how about this

Alternate names. What is the Pass of Caradhras also known as?


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 19 2014, 12:58pm


Views: 2382
Redhorn Pass

What's the name of the inn in Minas Tirith?

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


Faramir74
Bree

Nov 19 2014, 1:52pm


Views: 2382
Wow!

Good question. I believe it's actually the Redhorn Gate. Are there any inns in Minas Tirith? I have to admit defeat on this one. What is the name of the ruined town that sits by the Grey flood, several hundred leagues south of the Shire?


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 19 2014, 3:38pm


Views: 2369
Yes, it's Redhorn Gate OR Redhorn Pass

I was never quite sure why Tolkien called a pass over a mountain “a gate”….

Yes there was an “inn” in Minas Tirith – The Old Guesthouse. I don’t know if it served mead, and could then be considered another “tavern” or if it was just a rooming house.

The town would be Tharbad. In the mid to late Third Age there was also a ford across the Greyflood although I don’t think it was ever called the Ford of Tharbad. This is where Boromir lost his horse in his quest for Imladris.

Give two names for the stone monoliths that lie on either side of the Anduin just north of Nen Hithoel…..

It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG


Faramir74
Bree

Nov 19 2014, 5:17pm


Views: 2369
I know this

The Argonath. The two giant statues represent Isildur and Anarion the sons of Elendil.

But before you reach them you will pass through the rapids called..?


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 19 2014, 6:20pm


Views: 2364
Very good Faramir

Also called the Pillars of the Kings or Gates of the Kings.

The rapids are Sarn Gebir.

Name the battering ram that broke the Great Gate of Minas Tirith and its length.

"You cannot pass!
You didn't say "Simon says."'

Only those in the know will know.


Faramir74
Bree

Nov 19 2014, 7:20pm


Views: 2374
That device was called

Grond The Hammer of the Underworld, but I cannot recall its size.

When the two Hobbits Pippin and Merry where in Fangorn which Ent looked after them while Treebeard was at the Entmoot?


Darkstone
Immortal


Nov 19 2014, 7:24pm


Views: 2363
Dang!

It was either Bregalad or Quickbeam. Forget which.

******************************************
"Kai provseisi, kai avpeisi."
("There and back again.")
-Heraclitus of Ephesus, c. 500 BC


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 19 2014, 8:21pm


Views: 2365
Ha-ha!

Very witty. Tongue

Another name for Radagast.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 19 2014, 10:25pm


Views: 2364
Ok, this is getting out of hand!

Which often happens when Darkstone’s rind arrives. (Is that rind or mind? – nope rind will do.) But welcome anyhoo! Smile

Faramir, yes Grond is correct. But there was also an original Grond which was the mace of Morgoth. It was known as the “Hammer of the Underworld”. I don’t think Grond the battering ram was called such.
Grond the ram was 100’ long with an iron head shaped like a wolf.

BF, I don’t know of any other name for Radagast than Radagast the Brown (unless you’re delving movie-wise which I would have blocked?). But I believe he has a Quenya name somewhere which translates to lover of birds? Maybe some of the woodland creatures like foxes and such called him “Rad”? Cool

How many names for THE Ring can you think of? I can come up w/ 7 but I know there are more…..

"You cannot pass!
You didn't say 'Simon says.'"

Only those in the know will know.



BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 20 2014, 8:46am


Views: 2339
Yes, Aiwendil

Though it's only mentioned in UT.



BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 20 2014, 10:23am


Views: 2348
Re: How many names for THE Ring can you think of?

The One Ring, The Ruling Ring, The Ring of Power, Isildur's Bane... That's four. Does Precious count?



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 20 2014, 2:25pm


Views: 2330
Oooh my, Aiwendil indeed...

Do Foxes have photographic memories? Crazy

Are they Angelic?

"You cannot pass!
You didn't say 'Simon says.'"

Only those in the know will know.



BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 20 2014, 2:30pm


Views: 2331
I don't know about other foxes...

... but this fox here has a good friend called Google. AngelicTongue



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 20 2014, 2:32pm


Views: 2322
Well, yes. .

I counted "Precious" as one of my 7.
I also counted "The Ring"....TongueAngelic

That would be 6.

"You cannot pass!
You didn't say 'Simon says.'"

Only those in the know will know.



BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 20 2014, 2:34pm


Views: 2330
And The Master Ring

That's seven.



(This post was edited by BlackFox on Nov 20 2014, 2:37pm)


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 20 2014, 2:51pm


Views: 2322
Ok Googler..

I thought we were going off-the-head. Anyway my 7th was Master Ring. too

And fudging here too…Frown
There’s also “The Ring of Doom” (I remember this from the song in the Bakshi cartoon?)
Ring of Rings
The Great Ring
The Burden

I suppose more could be made up, but it gets a little silly – eh?

"You cannot pass!
You didn't say 'Simon says.'"

Only those in the know will know.



Faramir74
Bree

Nov 20 2014, 5:06pm


Views: 2176
Can you name

the leader of the strange little people who live in the Druadan Forest, who provide a shortcut to the Rohirrim?


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 20 2014, 6:52pm


Views: 2181
But-but...

I didn't know this included questions as well. Frown



BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 20 2014, 6:56pm


Views: 2174
Ghan-buri-Ghan

Druadan word for orcs.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 20 2014, 8:39pm


Views: 2179
Gorgun

Ghan's name for the people of Minas Tirith is. . . (Not a question.) TongueWink

"You cannot pass!
You didn't say 'Simon says.'"

Only those in the know will know.



Faramir74
Bree

Nov 20 2014, 10:19pm


Views: 2174
Tall men who came up from the sea

Is that correct? Might need to read that chapter again!

What did Gollum call the Sun and Moon?


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 20 2014, 10:49pm


Views: 2166
I believe that's a reference to the Numenoreans

Though I have no better answer to offer either.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 21 2014, 3:30am


Views: 2155
Yes, BlackFox is correct

I think the Numenoreans were called similar by many peoples, possibly Ghan too.

I was thinking of a more personal name that Ghan called the people of Minas Tirith - "Stonehouse Folks"

"You cannot pass!
You didn't say 'Simon says.'"

Only those in the know will know.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 21 2014, 3:33am


Views: 2159
I would guess. . .

Yellow Face and White Face? Unsure

See post above to BlackFox about Ghan.

"You cannot pass!
You didn't say 'Simon says.'"

Only those in the know will know.



Faramir74
Bree

Nov 21 2014, 9:39am


Views: 2155
Correct

And he hates them both.

When Aragorn and Co. take the Paths of the Dead, they enter the haunted mountain. What's it's name? Bonus points if you can name the entrance AND the mountain itself.


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 21 2014, 10:46am


Views: 2142
The Haunted Mountain

I know it has another name (starting with a D, if I'm not mistaken), but I can't remember it. Frown The entrance is called the Gate of the Dead.

Next question: how was Baldor related to Eorl the Young?



Faramir74
Bree

Nov 21 2014, 11:29am


Views: 2156
You're right about the D

Dimholt is the entrance, the actual mountain is called the Dwimorberg.

Was he Eorl grandson?


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 21 2014, 12:00pm


Views: 2151
I believe your correct Faramir

The entrance is also called the “Dark Door”.

I think Baldor was the dead guy they found in the Paths of the Dead? Pirate

What was the group name for those who entered the Paths of the Dead? And what time of day did they get to the Hill of Erech? Crazy

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Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 21 2014, 12:06pm


Views: 2131
Actually....

Dimholt was a row of dark trees just before the entrance. Smile

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 21 2014, 12:10pm


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Correct! //

 



BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 21 2014, 12:11pm


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Yes, that was him

The Grey Company. Midnight?



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 21 2014, 12:46pm


Views: 2130
Whoot! The Fox is Sooo good!

So good I had to plagiarize a Whoot!

On what month and day did Gandalf return to life on Zirak-zigal?

(hint) It's a celebrated day in the U.S.

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 21 2014, 12:55pm


Views: 2125
On Valentine's Day?

February 14, that is.



Faramir74
Bree

Nov 21 2014, 12:55pm


Views: 2130
the obvious answer is

July 4th? I never realised the actual date is recorded.

What is the name of the long oval lake after you pass the Dimrill Gate? The Dwarves call it Kheled Zaram?


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 21 2014, 12:56pm


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Mirrormere //

 



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 21 2014, 1:55pm


Views: 2118
Yes BlackFox, and you'll always remember that now - betcha!

Or I guess you already did? Do you have Valentine's Day in your neck of the woods??

Faramir, it's in appendix - Tale of Years.

Anyone - How many in Eomer's eored when they accosted the Three Hunters? "Aid me or thwart me, choose swiftly!"

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 21 2014, 2:31pm


Views: 2125
I wasn't sure

And, yes, we do.

Two hundred? Just a wild guess.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 21 2014, 6:54pm


Views: 2116
Ah, gotcha (for a change)....

The way I worded the question the answer is 105.
Legolas sees 105 plus 2 empty saddles. And 15 men were killed battling the orcs.
So Eomer’s original eored had 120.

But I believe an eored can be most any size as the Rohirrim split into 3 or 4 on the Pelennor of a couple thousand each.

In case I forget here's HeartHeartHeart for Valentine's Day.

Isn't it interesting that Gandalf comes to life on this day. I'm sure Tolkien was aware....

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 21 2014, 6:58pm


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Dang!

I agree. It's hardly a coincidence.



BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 21 2014, 9:27pm


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Alright, I've got another

How many children did Sam and Rosie have?



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 21 2014, 9:38pm


Views: 2093
A dozen ??

Was my brain try. Frown

Then my fudger told me 13...Wink

Who did Elanor marry?

Hey, at least we're learning some important facts. Eh? Smile

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 21 2014, 9:43pm


Views: 2139
We are!

Thirteen is correct.

Who did Elanor marry? Umm... umm... umm... I know that one. Umm... umm... Hold on. Umm... umm... Nope, don't know after all. Yet again! Frown



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 22 2014, 1:17am


Views: 2138
Well shucky darn..

I don't either Frown but I think the last name was Greenhome.

First name? Uh.. uh... Harvey? Roberto? .. Nope. I'd have to look. Angelic Nuts!

But from them I do recall came the Fairbairns that moved to the Westmarch Undertowers and carried on with the Redbook.

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 22 2014, 9:47am


Views: 2137
I looked it up

It's Fastred of Greenholm.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 22 2014, 2:53pm


Views: 2111
Ah yes, thanks.... here's an obtuse one..

I just thought up.

Name the people that were the 'referees' or the creators(?) of the Riddle Game.

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 22 2014, 4:30pm


Views: 2116
I don't have a clue

Frown



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 22 2014, 4:50pm


Views: 2120
The Authorities...

I think it's mentioned in the Prologue to FotR.

Something like... The Authorities agreed that Bilbo's (pocket) question/riddle was not according the the 'Rules', but once he agreed to let Gollum have three guesses they considered it suitable. Or something to that affect.

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 22 2014, 6:53pm


Views: 2109
Here it is


Quote
The Authorities, it is true, differ whether this last question was a mere 'question' and not a 'riddle' according to the strict rules of the Game; but all agree that, after accepting it and trying to guess the answer, Gollum was bound by his promise.
- Of the Finding of the Ring, FOTR




Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 22 2014, 7:42pm


Views: 2099
Thank you

fuzzy Fox. Smile

I'm getting to lazy to look up some of this stuff and end up paraphrasing. Amazing how much the gray (that's gray not grey) matter retains.

Hmm, I wonder now, what's the diff between a Grey Wizard and a Gray Wizard?.... Hmmm - English vs American?

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 22 2014, 7:54pm


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One dresses in grey, the other in gray

http://en.wikipedia.org/...spelling_differences



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 22 2014, 8:51pm


Views: 2105
Hee, hee..

I prefer "grey" ...

And I think that's Tolkien's fault !! Wink

Gandalf the Gray just doesn't hack it.

Now - Radagast the Dark-tan Wizard would be ok.. Tongue

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Faramir74
Bree

Nov 23 2014, 9:29pm


Views: 2089
Well, I'm back

as Sam would say.

What is the name of the wooden platform that the Galadhrim use to sit up in the trees?


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 23 2014, 10:01pm


Views: 2080
Talan

What were the names of Haldir's brothers?



Rembrethil
Tol Eressea


Nov 24 2014, 1:54am


Views: 2093
Was John-dir one of them?

 

Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 24 2014, 5:15am


Views: 2084
“Daro” You’re getting tough

Rumil and Orophin
I believe there was also a First Age Haldir but I don't know if he had any bro's..

Talan is “flet” in Westron

And Rem, John-dir was a distant cousin that started a lucrative tractor company (horse drawn at the time of course). Wink

Give three names for the rope 'bridge' the company used to cross the Silverlode with Haldir. Unsure

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Faramir74
Bree

Nov 24 2014, 11:27am


Views: 2058
Elvish rope

is called Hithlain? I can't remember what the rope crossing was called. When the Fellowship are leaving Lorien, what gift did Boromir receive?


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 24 2014, 12:45pm


Views: 2075
A golden belt

What about Aragorn?



BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 24 2014, 12:46pm


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*snort* //

 



Faramir74
Bree

Nov 24 2014, 12:54pm


Views: 2063
Snort to you too!

Wink

Aragorn was given the Evenstar brooch.

What word did Gandalf use to open the Doors of Moria?


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 24 2014, 1:05pm


Views: 2061
Mellon

Aragorn actually received two gifts from Galadriel. What was the other?



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Faramir74
Bree

Nov 24 2014, 1:42pm


Views: 2058
A sheath for Anduril

Can you name two of Faramir's Rangers of Ithilien? They escorted Frodo and Sam to Henneth Annun.

Mellon - correct. The elvish word for friend.


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 24 2014, 1:52pm


Views: 2055
Mablung and Damrod

Who were called the White Company?



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 24 2014, 1:55pm


Views: 2048
Yeah, sure, you get the easy ones…

A sheath for Anduril

The Fellowship split into three boats. Who rode together?

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Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 24 2014, 1:58pm


Views: 2052
Ooops, crossed in transit

Faramir's guard in Ithilien

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 24 2014, 2:02pm


Views: 2034
Which is quite nice for a change

All your questions are so darn hard. Tongue

Now, those boats:
Aragorn & Frodo & Sam
Boromir & Merry & Pippin
Legolas & Gimli



BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 24 2014, 2:03pm


Views: 2038
Correct! //

 



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 24 2014, 2:12pm


Views: 2133
Well, not so hard really..

Give three names for the rope 'bridge' the company used to cross the Silverlode with Haldir.

Well, this ‘statement’ was a jest. There were no names given. I just asked for three names. George, Henry, and Arthur. Hee, hee! WinkCool

Sorry! It was late night and I was anxious for some sack-time.....

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Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 24 2014, 2:16pm


Views: 2130
And yes on the cruise accommodations //

 

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 24 2014, 2:18pm


Views: 2148
Why you little!





Faramir74
Bree

Nov 24 2014, 2:40pm


Views: 2135
Back to the Shire...

Which hobbit, who held a position of authority, had his roof collapse and came out looking like a floured dumpling? Full name and title please.


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 24 2014, 2:46pm


Views: 2123
Whom, Me??

angel photo angel.jpg

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Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 24 2014, 2:47pm


Views: 2136
Old Flour Dumpling - Will Whitfoot

Mayor of Michel Delving (or the Shire)

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Faramir74
Bree

Nov 24 2014, 2:57pm


Views: 2129
Correct

What about Butterbur 's two servants at the Prancing Pony?


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 24 2014, 3:42pm


Views: 2115
Bob and Nob

Who brought the shards of Narsil to Rivendell after Isildur was killed in the Battle of the Gladden Fields?



BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 24 2014, 3:44pm


Views: 2123
Hehe!

Who's being all AngelicAngelicAngelic now?



(This post was edited by BlackFox on Nov 24 2014, 3:52pm)


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 24 2014, 6:45pm


Views: 2110
I think..

Othar, Isildur's esquire.

How many pieces constituted The Shards?

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 24 2014, 7:22pm


Views: 2112
Correct again!

Two pieces.

Who forged Narsil?



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 24 2014, 8:30pm


Views: 2108
Telchar - Dwarf smithy of some renown

and he also forged ? (Silmarillion)

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Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 24 2014, 8:35pm


Views: 2106
And I wonder...

how many shards were shown in the film?

And I misspelled Othar - should be Ohtar - Opps, not a typo either.

Hey, nobody's prefect, huh? Blush

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 24 2014, 8:35pm


Views: 2106
Angrist

Who did it originally belong to?



BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 24 2014, 8:41pm


Views: 2098
Six

Here's a screencap.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 24 2014, 9:12pm


Views: 2097
Originally? Telchar (hee-hee)

It's mine I tell you - I made it! My preciouss.

Ok, Beren used it to cut a silmaril from the Iron Crown.

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 24 2014, 9:16pm


Views: 2087
Ha-ha!

But who did Beren get it from?



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 24 2014, 9:25pm


Views: 2095
See, see, see..

I keep telling you people that there are some differences between the books and the movies. Wink

Thanks for the screen-shot...Smile

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Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 24 2014, 9:30pm


Views: 2085
Yes, it was a hand-me-down... to Beren..

I confess to cheating on this one.....Frown

Curufin, Celebrimbor's pop.

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Faramir74
Bree

Nov 25 2014, 3:23pm


Views: 2076
Who represented the

Havens at the Council of Elrond?


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 25 2014, 4:02pm


Views: 2075
Galdor

Name all Fingolfin's children.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 25 2014, 5:45pm


Views: 2079
Fingon, Turgon, and Aredhil..

Who was Fingolfin’s half-brother and name eleven material things this half-brother made.

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 25 2014, 5:57pm


Views: 2074
Feanor

The three Silmarils and the eight palantiri.

What was Feanor's father-name?



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 25 2014, 6:25pm


Views: 2082
Nice..

Lots of folks forget about the Master Stone kept at Avallone.

I take it that father-name is the same as father's name.... Finwe

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 25 2014, 6:32pm


Views: 2079
Nope

http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Father-name



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 25 2014, 7:02pm


Views: 2618
Ok, you can say 'Gottcha'

So he was named (sort of) after his father Finwe as Curufinwe, and Feanor was his epesse. I knew of the word 'epesse' but thought maybe father-name was an Estonian thingy. Unsure

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 25 2014, 7:08pm


Views: 2604
That wasn't my intention

I should have phrased my question better.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 25 2014, 8:48pm


Views: 2607
No problem

Question phrased properly. Smile I just forgot about the 'father-name' business.

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



Ithilisa
Rivendell

Nov 27 2014, 3:46am


Views: 2590
Great conversation, both of you.

You two are having one of the best trivia exchanges I've ever seen. I hope you're not done yet. Thanks for doing this in forum (not private) form.

"I name you Elf-friend; and may the stars shine upon the end of your road!" - Gildor


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 27 2014, 4:30am


Views: 2600
‘Tis fun eh? Ok…

Here’s one for whomever.

Memory ONLY! No look in book! 5 minutes. Brain-pan only. On your honor! Crazy

Name the thirteen Dwarves at the Unexpected Party.

Extra credit - Day of the week and which Dwarf was first to arrive?

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
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Ithilisa
Rivendell

Nov 27 2014, 4:36am


Views: 2609
I can name the dwarves...

HeartThorin, Kori, Dori, Ori, Fili, Kili, Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, Dwalin, Balin, Oin, Gloin. I can't answer the extra credit.

"I name you Elf-friend; and may the stars shine upon the end of your road!" - Gildor


BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 27 2014, 8:41am


Views: 2590
We're being watched!

Thank you, Ithilisa! Everyone is welcome to jump in at any time. Smile



BlackFox
Half-elven


Nov 27 2014, 8:42am


Views: 2593
Dwalin was the first dwarf to arrive

Was it Wednesday?



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 27 2014, 1:37pm


Views: 2585
Ooops o - sorry no

Kori

Nice work though Smile

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 27 2014, 1:42pm


Views: 2685
Correct BlackFox

I always remember Wednesday because Bilbo complains that he should have written in his diary something like "Gandalf, tea, Wednesday".

We don't know who was the last to arrive because four of them tumble in all at once. But I always think of it as Thorin.

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.