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Poll: The no spoilers allowed DOS 'reaction' poll
Loved It ~ 5 out of 5 stars 71 / 37%
Really Liked It ~ 4 out 5 stars 64 / 33%
Liked It ~ 3 out of 5 stars 39 / 20%
Didn't Like it ~ 2 out of 5 stars 14 / 7%
Hated It ~ 1 out of 5 stars 4 / 2%
Don't plan on seeing it 0 / 0%
192 total votes
 

Magpie
Immortal


Dec 13 2013, 5:16am


Views: 1477
The no spoilers allowed DOS 'reaction' poll

Just Vote... Don't post anything other than your emotional reaction.

No Movie Details Please!

None!

I could have offered a 'hope to see it soon' option but if I let people vote on that, then they can't vote for their 'stars' when they do see it.

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macfalk
Valinor


Dec 13 2013, 9:32am


Views: 647
3/5

Hoping I will bump it up to 4/5 when I watch it for my second time today (was supposed to watch it yesterday again but didn't have the time for it.)

Since this is a spoiler-free thread, I'll it will be hard for me to explain why I feel that I might like it more the second time, so I'll just leave it at that. Smile



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Magpie
Immortal


Dec 13 2013, 2:41pm


Views: 623
yeah...

it would be hard to explain

but I thought people who can't see it now and aren't wanting to read anything that could spoil them, might appreciate a very simple and as spoiler-less as we can get approach to people's reactions.

And sometimes, I think it's nice to have the ability to anonymously 'vote' when one might not want to explain or elaborate. :-)


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Misto
Lorien

Dec 13 2013, 4:43pm


Views: 599
Better than AUJ, imo

Although it's definitely not a film adaptation of The Hobbit. More of a "Loosely based on" sort of movie. So was AUJ in a way, but it's even more so for DOS, in my opinion.
However, it works as a movie and after all it's a movie I came for. No lenghty "please do go on already" sort of moments like AUJ had. So overall, I'm quite happy. 4/5


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Magpie
Immortal


Dec 13 2013, 5:00pm


Views: 623
another mostly 'spoiler free' way to gauge reaction

at least, reaction as expressed on Twitter ...

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Analysis of fan reactions to the Hobbit
The newly released Hobbit movie, the Desolation of Smaug, has caused a lot of emotions among fans.This page studies Twitter reactions and reviews of the new movie.



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arithmancer
Grey Havens


Dec 13 2013, 6:01pm


Views: 601
Thanks!

The poll, and the site you linked are both cool to look at for those of us still waiting to see DoS. Smile


Brethil
Half-elven


Dec 13 2013, 9:24pm


Views: 607
I'm 4/5

Somewhere in there. Maybe higher than 4 but not lower. Enjoying the trip I must say.

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sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea


Dec 14 2013, 1:12am


Views: 565
4 Stars

Just saw it earlier today. Better than AUJ (which gets 3/5 from me) by a good bit. The good stuff was loads better this time around, and the bad stuff was pretty much the same. Still not up there with any of the LotR films (still too much ott cgi action bs for my taste), but closer. Has me really hopeful and excited for TaBA, which i just wasn't feeling before today.


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Fredeghar Wayfarer
Lorien


Dec 14 2013, 1:17am


Views: 591
Hated it

It's decent as an action movie but not a good adaptation of The Hobbit. Seeing as that was the story I came to see, I was very disappointed.


Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth
Lorien


Dec 14 2013, 2:21am


Views: 559
Loved it.

My first reaction: Oh my Lord, that was fantastical.

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Oiotįri
Tol Eressea


Dec 14 2013, 3:57am


Views: 549
I wanted a 3.5,

 but I also know there is something to be said about having to choose between the given options, so I went with 4/5.

I did enjoy the movie, and 3/5 seemed more like a "meh" reaction to me, so I bumped it up to 4/5

It is hard, however, to know on a first viewing if your excitement/anticipation about finally seeing the movie is bumping up your overall impression on making your reaction slightly worse.


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elentari3018
Rohan


Dec 14 2013, 4:19am


Views: 566
Me too, i'm the minority of being disappointed

and a bit befuddled on all the changes. I want explanations....

2.5/5 for me.

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DanielLB
Immortal


Dec 14 2013, 9:33am


Views: 590
Having slept on it ...

I also give the film 4/5. If we were voting on how close the adaptation is to the book, I'd add a minus sign on the front. Wink

I think the EE will easily push my score up.



Annael
Immortal


Dec 14 2013, 4:33pm


Views: 542
that's it!

It took me three viewings of LOTR: FOTR to get past my disappointments over what was changed and see the movie on its own terms. Of course I wanted slavish devotion to the book and was annoyed by the changes. But finally I decided that Tolkien tells the story from the point of view of the Hobbits, and Jackson tells it from the point of view of Men, who like to exaggerate a lot about things like how big the fish/warg/orc really was and skip over other parts that some of us were more interested in.

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Dame Ioreth
Tol Eressea


Dec 14 2013, 5:13pm


Views: 547
I loved it!

I went in wanting to see a great movie. I saw a great movie. Therefore, 5/5.

I had only one instance where I got pulled out for a second and that had to do with the soundtrack so maybe if I could I'd give it a 4.75.

Not a fangirl reaction either. While I loved the LOTR movies, there were parts where I wanted to say enough (Battle of Pellinor Fields went on longer than I cared to see and there was no Ioreth! *hrumph*) and I really don't care for any of SPJ's other films. He's not infallible.

But, like a good bread, I felt the love and care the cast and crew put into this project from beginning to end. They asked me to come play and experience Middle Earth again and that is what I did.

And it was amazing!

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Brethil
Half-elven


Dec 14 2013, 5:53pm


Views: 527
Agreed with both points...especially on EE addition //


In Reply To
I also give the film 4/5. If we were voting on how close the adaptation is to the book, I'd add a minus sign on the front. Wink

I think the EE will easily push my score up.


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Meneldor
Valinor


Dec 14 2013, 7:50pm


Views: 522
4/5

I felt the pace was often rushed, and didn't get the usual sense of an epic journey of many leagues. I didn't think it was as moving or powerful as AUJ, but it didn't have as much silliness either.


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sevilodorf
Tol Eressea


Dec 14 2013, 9:35pm


Views: 498
3/5

Too much of a bridge to get more than that.

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dubulous
Rohan

Dec 14 2013, 10:55pm


Views: 494
3 from me

3.5 might have been more accurate for me, but 4 felt a little too generous, so I went with 3.


cats16
Valinor


Dec 15 2013, 3:52am


Views: 474
Yep, somewhere around 4/5.

I've been holding off on posting much until I see it a second time (hopefully soon!). After that, I think I'll be back in full force.


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Dec 15 2013, 3:56am


Views: 490
Love it! :D

I've been 3 times already... and every time it gets better!

There will always be little pieces of all 5 Middle-earth films that I wish were different, but I'm so happy with Jackson's storytelling. The books are the books. The films are the films. I am just enjoying the ride!



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cats16
Valinor


Dec 15 2013, 5:04am


Views: 477
Hear, hear!

We've only got another year of the 'spotlight' left. Like you, gramma, I'm having a great time along the way!

3 times opening weekend...not bad!!Wink I can't wait for all of your geeky observations to start pouring in. Smile


Kim
Valinor


Dec 15 2013, 8:10am


Views: 475
4/5

Just got back from my second viewing, which solidified my opinion. Felt really different from AUJ at first, but once I got used to the new look and feel, really enjoyed it. Smile


imin
Valinor


Dec 15 2013, 1:37pm


Views: 467
3/5

It was ok. Very OTT in parts but to be expected i guess. The CGI of Smaug was brilliant. Better than AUJ in parts, worse than LOTR trilogy for most.

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cats16
Valinor


Dec 15 2013, 11:19pm


Views: 437
I can't wait...

...to see it again. I can definitely tell that the second viewing will do a lot for my opinion of the film.

Did you see it in HFR again?


Kim
Valinor


Dec 15 2013, 11:45pm


Views: 322
Yes

saw it in IMAX 3D HFR again, which is definitely my preferred way to see it. I've been toying with the thought of seeing it in 2D just for comparison, which is actually how I first saw AUJ, but I remember that the action scenes were a bit blurry in 2D, and there's so much action in DOS that I don't know if I will.


And yes, the second viewing really did it for me. I think I was a little disoriented at first because I'm so familiar with the look and feel of AUJ, and DOS felt really different, especially in the opening scenes. So the second time through, I was more prepared for those first few scenes, then was able to settle in and enjoy the rest of it. Hope you have a good experience on your second viewing!


cats16
Valinor


Dec 16 2013, 12:34am


Views: 302
Thanks.

I believe I was slightly disoriented at first, as well.

I'm also tempted to see it in 2D, to see what it looks like. I'll probably see it again in HFR, then go 2D.


Magpie
Immortal


Dec 16 2013, 12:39am


Views: 315
someone in a comment to a home page article

just wrote that they saw it first in 3D and then in 2D and the colors were much better in 2D. I think some of this is at the hands of the each theater's projection equipment but I'd be curious if other people have made a comparison and what they think.


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cats16
Valinor


Dec 16 2013, 12:55am


Views: 318
Interesting...

I'm especially curious to see the first 30 minutes in 2D. Certain shots looked a little strange (in terms of grading), although I think it was just my eyes.


sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea


Dec 16 2013, 5:01am


Views: 308
3D is known to "eat" color.

It can be up to 30% less bright than it's 2D counterpart. I've yet to see a modern 3D film myself, so i can't verify that personally.


Alassėa Eruvande
Valinor


Dec 16 2013, 6:07pm


Views: 302
Didn't like it. 2/5

I thought I was seeing The Hobbit. I think I'm more upset about having been sold a bill of goods. I don't know what that was. Unsure



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Dwarewien
Rohan


Dec 16 2013, 10:34pm


Views: 274
Loved it, though I'd give it a 4/5...

since I rarely give movies I really like the highest rating. I even had to help a younger fan with the name of the next movie and when it's due out (he thought TABA still came out in July). Hoping to see it again on Christmas Day (since the theater it's playing in is also open on Christmas and New Year's, probably because it also has an arcade). Now, if only I can track down the Special Edition soundtrack (they still only have the regular edition in stores).Smile

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malickfan
Gondor


Dec 16 2013, 11:07pm


Views: 273
Somewhere between 2.5 and 3.5 out of 5-Loved elements, hated others

I'm too on the fence on this one to have any definte opinions. As a fan of the book I was annoyed, as a cinemagoer I was dissapointed.

Somewhere in this trilogy lies the meat of an awesome miniseries, it's just a shame there is too much fat and badly executed sinews linking the meat.

I'm glad it was made though.

I don't have much to say.



RangerLady23
Lorien

Dec 16 2013, 11:15pm


Views: 258
Thought it was great.

Not LotR great mind you, but still great. Much better than AUJ.


arithmancer
Grey Havens


Dec 17 2013, 1:20am


Views: 275
5/5

I liked it better than AUJ, and I liked AUJ a lot!


macfalk
Valinor


Dec 17 2013, 12:18pm


Views: 259
Liked it a lot more on my second viewing (2D)

Especially the first two hours. The last 30 mins, not so much. 3,5/5



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Noria
Gondor

Dec 17 2013, 2:05pm


Views: 248
Loved it, with a few reservations.

So I vioted 4/5 but in a different poll might have chosen 9/10.


Annael
Immortal


Dec 20 2013, 4:42pm


Views: 255
emotional reaction: fury

I walked out of the theater furious with PJ. I can deal with him taking liberties with a FEW aspects of the story . . . maybe even SOME . . . but was there a part of this movie that was NOT a departure from the book, apart from Bilbo's conversation with Smaug? I felt like he took EVERY THING and said "how can we ramp this up/tease it out even more" without ever questioning whether that would add ANYTHING to the movie. And the whole 20 or 30 minutes after Bilbo talks to Smaug was the straw that broke my willingness to go along with him. WHAT WAS THE POINT?

At this point I'm not interested in seeing it again, buying ir, or seeing the third movie. Someone needs to bop PJ on the head and explain to him that he does NOT know better than Tolkien how to write a story that people will love.

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Annael
Immortal


Dec 20 2013, 7:48pm


Views: 211
you & me both. //

 

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N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Dec 21 2013, 12:40am


Views: 239
It's not often I agree with you, Annael.

But I'm with you on this!

The thing is, that's how I felt right after seeing Jackson's Fellowship of the Ring. In both cases, I'd paid very little attention to the advance publicity, and I wonder if I'd have felt less violated had I known a bit about the kind of changes from the book that were coming. (The changes in the new film are, to be sure, much worse than those in FOTR.)

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Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Dec 21 2013, 2:11am


Views: 242
It works for me. So far, anyway.


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The thing is, that's how I felt right after seeing Jackson's Fellowship of the Ring. In both cases, I'd paid very little attention to the advance publicity, and I wonder if I'd have felt less violated had I known a bit about the kind of changes from the book that were coming.


I was not happy when I left the theater after my first viewing of FotR, either. I've learned to make more allowances for book-to-screen changes when necessary, and to read all the spoilers in preparation for changes I likely won't agree are necessary changes. These Hobbit movies have required more than that, though. I've had to go Jedi for these. They're not the Hobbit movies I was looking for. They're the somewhat Hobbit-inspired movies we're getting. I'm free to walk out at any time. I've managed to enjoy both of them, but not in the same way.

FotR was by far my favorite of the LotR movies, and I seldom make it through the series when watching at home these days (which doesn't occur very often anymore), even with the fast-forward function. I prefer AUJ to DoS so far this time around, so the pattern continues. I'll see DoS a second time and buy the DVD to share with young cousins who've read the book, but I'm not at all excited for the third installment of this series. And if the spoilers for TABA really p*** me off, particularly over the few things I actually do/did want to see...I might skip it at the theater, and wait for the DVD. I still hope I'll like it, even if just barely. I just have reeeeally lowered expectations now. :/

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Joe-Mathews
Rivendell


Dec 22 2013, 5:40pm


Views: 191
I voted

... but reserve the right to change my mind after TABA.

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Salmacis81
Tol Eressea


Dec 23 2013, 3:52am


Views: 174
4/5

It was NOT The Hobbit that Tolkien wrote, but I stopped expecting that story after I saw Azog standing on the precipice at Weathertop in the first movie. And I've always been a big supporter of the inclusion of Gandalf's side ventures, so I won't take points off for that being added to the plot.

DoS certainly has it's flaws, and there are a couple things about it I disliked, but the fact that there is no toilet humor and Goblin buffoonery in DoS puts it above AUJ for me (which I thought was an enjoyable, but disappointing, film). Plus, there are one or two scenes in DoS that are some of the best in all the Middle-earth movies thus far.

I know I should probably know better, but part of me is holding out hope that he will steer it back towards the book for TaBA.


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Ardamķrė
Valinor


Dec 23 2013, 6:57am


Views: 167
I voted 5/5...

But it's probably more like a 4.92/5. Wink

I'm sure anyone who knows my opinion on AUJ is shocked by that, but it's true. I loved the film! I still think it's slightly less than any of the LOTR films, but very close nonetheless.

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Aunt Dora Baggins
Immortal


Dec 26 2013, 4:42am


Views: 154
3/5 for me

but I can't really tell if it's because of the movie, or because I've never been as emotionally invested in The Hobbit as in LotR, or because I overdid LotR ten years ago and burned out, or what.

I did love the visual interpretation of the scenery and the dragon. But I just didn't get into the story, or care much about the characters. Not enough Bilbo, maybe. The movie only really grabbed me during his scenes. Martin Freeman is perfect in the role.

I had a similar reaction to AUJ. I loved the "Good morning" scene, and after that I kind of lost interest until the Gollum scene. I saw AUJ once in the theater and bought the DVD and watched the first half hour and then got bored and turned it off.

I have to admit that while I loved FotR and saw it many, many times (fast-forwarding through the incredibly boring cave troll scene), my enthusiasm waned with TTT and RotK. I expected to be in tears at the end of RotK, and sat there dry-eyed and baffled at my reaction. I always cry at the end of the Rankin-Bass RotK.

And I prefer Rankin-Bass' Hobbit, (except for Otto Preminger's Thranduil, of course). I really missed the music in PJ's Hobbit. I found myself playing the Rankin-Bass music in my head throughout DOS: the barrel song, and the mountain king song. But then I'm in the minority of folks who was really disappointed in AUJ not to get any Tra-la-la-lally.


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FaramirAndEowynMorningStar
Rohan


Dec 26 2013, 4:24pm


Views: 145
4 out of 5

Great action scenes and plot...
But Peter really strayed a lot from the book.

I also think that he stretched it out a bit, and there wasn't really an arc...
That's all (not spoiling anything here). Wink

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Magpie
Immortal


Dec 26 2013, 5:34pm


Views: 144
3 stars

As I discussed in a long rambling 'review' on Off Topic, this isn't a Tolkien story for me. It lost the essence of The Hobbit and failed to find/achieve any epic similarity to LOTR.

As a stand alone movie, judged on the same standards I would any other movie, I liked it well enough to give it a 'Liked It' but dang it was way too long and could easily have been shorter. In fact, I think it would have been a better movie for loosing some of the side plots.

I had fewer problems with it than I did with AUJ. in that regard, I might be tempted to mentally bump it up to a 3.5. However, I could just as easily bump it down even more if I tried to review it as "Tolkien's The Hobbit." This was "Peter Jackson's The Hobbit." He took a story and ran with it.


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Loresilme
Valinor


Dec 26 2013, 9:56pm


Views: 128
4/5

I really liked it, and I found I liked it more each time I saw it (three times and counting).

Although I should say in comparison, on a scale of 1 to 5, that I would give the LOTR trilogy a 6 ... or 7 ... etc :-).


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Patty
Immortal


Dec 27 2013, 3:46pm


Views: 126
Magpie, my sentiments exactly, only,

I think I actually preferred AUJ, and that's not really saying much. I only liked it well enough after it came out on blu ray and I watched it again a time or two, attempting to like it better. Maybe I will like this new movie better after watching it a time or two more. As for now, about the only thing it really had going for was the high frame rate which I saw for the first time last night. I really like it.

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Magpie
Immortal


Dec 27 2013, 5:17pm


Views: 130
this concept of better or worse than AUJ came up in the car...

My son (who doesn't spend much time dwelling on what he doesn't like so he's not a ranter but he does have *opinions*) says he thought DOS was the worst of all '5' of the Middle-earth movies. Unequivocally.

I said that, it wasn't so much that I liked DOS better than AUJ but that there were fewer things that really irked me in DOS. Man I did not like the whole Goblin King thing nor the action sequences in the cave. There were things I didn't like about DOS but there wasn't anything I disliked as much as things in AUJ. If I went only on what I liked and was magically able to ignore what I didn't... then I might rate them comparatively different.

I am aware that, at some point, this all becomes a bit absurd. For every other movie I would either love, like, or dislike it and then, go on to talk about how much I loved it and why... what I liked about it... or just walk away from it.

But I have wanted to like The Hobbit films. Lots of my friends like The Hobbit films. I want to find a way to find some middling ground and give credit where credit is due.

Or maybe it's a Minnesota thing. We don't say something is bad. We say, "It's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick".

lol

I have yet to get the Hobbit DVD. They decided not to sell the EE version in stores so I couldn't pick it up as a whim. Then I decided to hold off and let it be a Christmas gift option. I didn't get it from anyone. I need some printer ink and wanted to bump the order up to meet minimum for shipping and handling so perhaps I'll buy it this week.

And I do plan on going to DOS a few more times. Probably once more in first run and I will try for second run but my neighborhood second run theater only ran AUJ for one week at the 9:00-ish show time. It's hard for me to make a late night show during the work week.

but I must say... even with the willingness to buy the Hobbit DVDs and go to the theaters multiple times, there is no magic grabbing at my heart like with LOTR. Maybe I'm different. Maybe the times are different. Maybe it's the fault of these recent movies. I don't know and knowing wouldn't change my life so why struggle with knowing. But it is the reality of my experience.


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Patty
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Dec 27 2013, 6:19pm


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Magpie, I'm going to p.m. you, cause I want to discuss spoilers...

But I imagine you can guess the things I didn't care for...

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Magpie
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Dec 27 2013, 6:32pm


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just fyi: you can discuss spoilers in the Off Topic movie thread as long as they're labeled as spoilers //

 


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Annael
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Dec 28 2013, 5:10pm


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I'm with you //

 

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Annael
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Dec 29 2013, 6:05pm


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it took me three showings to accept FOTR

as a different story and get past the changes. But the changes weren't as extensive, and the heart of the story was intact. I didn't feel that way about DOS. Instead of a few changes, it felt like EVERYTHING was different.- including the tone. I don't even have the heart to try again.

I never cared as much about the book of The Hobbit as I did LOTR - so I think it's telling that the changes to the story were too much even for me to take. I was prepared to cut PJ more slack - but not as much as he took.

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Magpie
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Dec 29 2013, 6:22pm


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re: not liking the Hobbit so much

I also am not a huge fan of the Hobbit. I can remember that, when I decided to reread LOTR before the movies came out, I thought I should start with the Hobbit and no matter how much I tried to make myself read that book, I just couldn't. So I didn't reread LOTR before seeing FOTR.

After seeing FOTR and realizing how much I had forgotten about the books, I decided to try again... and again, starting with The Hobbit.

Another fail.

Finally I just gave up and opened up FOTR and thus began a summer of transformation for me.

I have gone back and kind of reread the Hobbit since.

Therefore, I have almost no quibbles with changes from the book. It's just that, what I did love about the Hobbit - the little moments of whimsey and organic 'magic' (the thrush knocking at just the right moment... the talking ravens) - seemed stripped out of the movie.

And what was inserted was tinged with too much flash-bang action and a flirty love angle. I love romance but it needs to serve a purpose. Eowyn's attraction to Aragorn served a purpose for developing her character (even though the movie kind of bungled that to some extent). But I don't know what purpose the Kili attraction to Tauriel or the Tauriel isn't good enough for Legolas is serving.

I might have been able to take changes better than a more avid fan. But the changes had to charm and engage me and they didn't.


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macfalk
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Dec 29 2013, 11:18pm


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I love how this mirrors my relationship to LOTR

"I decided to try again... and again, starting with The Hobbit.

Another fail. "


This is just like me... if you swap The Hobbit with LOTR Smile


I'm giving the trilogy another shot (just ordered all three books...in English) Hoping against hope that it won't be, as you put it, another fail - because I do want to love LOTR the way I love The Hobbit.



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Magpie
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Dec 30 2013, 2:34am


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haha...

yes, I've marked that polar opposite with a few people. :-)

Have you made any observations on the demographics that skew to other end? Age, personality, gender, culture?

I feel that LOTR cross over all those demographics but I don't have the same bead on Hobbit fans.


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