Sep 12 2013, 3:48am
I had some similar--yet not nearly as refined--thoughts on these two awhile back. Great job with this!
Adding in a bit to the load of things you've observed, I notice that Azog seems to declare some sort of word--likely in the Black Speech--that, to me, sounds a lot like "magic", although the 'c' at the end is absent, and there sounds to be more of an 'gh' in there. I'm no linguist, so unless the subtitles give an answer, I'm not sure if there is a definitive answer.
But...from this, I feel that Azog is making some connection here with the magic--lighting of the pine cones--of Gandalf. Perhaps that was his word for 'witchcraft', or something similar. Maybe he's seen it before.
Like you said, he's surprised to see Gandalf there. And it's even worse when, in Azog's final frame of the film, he looks almost afraid. Someone won't be happy. Not saying the Necromancer is the one, but Azog's definitely not out doing all of this on his own.
Athough, I'm not yet sold on the "that one is mine" being intended for Gandalf (saw it in another post). The film's edits, to me, point back to Thorin. (I also notice Balin look down, and Thorin, as this happens. Seems to indicate his realization of what's happening.)
Great job, Old Pilgrim.
Edit for second to last section of text: I just reread your other posts, Old Pilgrim, and you make a very good case for the part I'm not sold on yet. I'll keep that in mind when I watch AUJ again. For some reason the editing suggests otherwise to me, but your case is still very strong and well thought out. I really do hope that all of this is true, in some form. That look earlier in the film, with Gandalf and Balin, always stood out to me. It'd be great to see that explained.
(This post was edited by cats16 on Sep 12 2013, 3:56am)