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New vlog from Peter Jackson!!



DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 1 2013, 5:02pm


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New vlog from Peter Jackson!!

Link.

Enjoy!

ShockedLaugh


(This post was edited by DanielLB on Jul 1 2013, 5:03pm)


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 1 2013, 5:16pm


Views: 2444
That was a quick 10 minutes!

Felt more like 5. Wink Probably the most hilarious moment (Dwarvercising) shown in any of the previous production videos. It's a shame that there won't be any footage shown at Comic-Con this year - but like PJ says, I'd rather they concentrated on filming the film, than pleasing the fans.

I didn't catch anything particularly spoiler-y, did anyone else? Will have to watch it again, but more closely. It suggested to me that Tauriel, Legolas and Gandalf meet Bilbo in Dale? Perhaps this is the moment Bilbo hands over the Arkenstone? And where there 3 people (wizards?) walking around Dol Guldur?

Smile


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Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Jul 1 2013, 5:16pm


Views: 2379
Loved it!

Dwarvercise! LMAO!

Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/13


Welsh hero
Gondor


Jul 1 2013, 5:21pm


Views: 2373
Was it ever announced Bain was in the film

don't remember it being announced........

-Irfon

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Delrond
Rohan


Jul 1 2013, 5:22pm


Views: 2304
Cool.

Thoroughly enjoyed that. Smile

A few harmless flakes working together can unleash an avalanche of destruction.


Eleniel
Tol Eressea


Jul 1 2013, 5:25pm


Views: 2463
Have to say the funniest thing for me...

...was Evangeline Lilly's expressions as she faked riding behind Legolas. Still can't decide if she was supposed to be acting, seriously, or whether she was sending the whole thing up! Laugh


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
¯ Victoria Monfort


CathrineB
Rohan


Jul 1 2013, 5:26pm


Views: 2365
Awesome!

It sure didn't feel like ten minutes at all!

The dwarf yoga thing ... omg hahahha I love these guys!
Thranduil in that armour! So we'll see him fight in DOS?

Why are Legolas and Tauriel on a fake horse? I don't feel like complaining about the overuse of CGI (I mean that is done everywhere), but in LotR they placed their actors on actual horses (you know, they do exsist unlike giant extint elks) and have them gallop down fields or sit on those horse barrel thingies. I miss that.

Did you guys notice Fili holding Kili up in the video? Orc wound has to come from there somewhere then!


Shagrat
Gondor

Jul 1 2013, 5:27pm


Views: 2307
Mmmm

Didn't really get much out of this one. Some terrible, corny humour (it was!) and the music was awful - where's the Howard Shore stuff gone, either from LOTR or The Hobbit? Why the use of the trailer theme to that extent?

One thing that did intrigue me were the Orcs at 2:03, which look a heavily armoured sort. I guess this must be for the BoFA. Hopefully this means we won't see an overuse of CGI soldiers and lots of 'real' ones.


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Welsh hero
Gondor


Jul 1 2013, 5:27pm


Views: 2307
Probally just easier

or to shut peta up.....

-Irfon

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TheSexyBeard
Lorien


Jul 1 2013, 5:29pm


Views: 2334
Yay!

Glad to get another Vlog it has been a while!

It does look like the scene with Bilbo, Gandalf and Tauriel may be the handing over of the Arkenstone. Perhaps Thranduil is too vain to collect himself so he saids his most trusted allies? I think I saw Thrain with Gandalf in one of the Dol Guldor (it was shot of the set from above, you can see Gandalf and someone else running through it) so perhaps that was the 3rd person, it might just have been Radagast though.

Looks like part of the Battle of The Five armies will be in Dale, you can see a geared up Thranduil fighting for a second. There also seemed to be armoured prosthetic orcs that reminded me a bit of the Morgul/Morrian Orcs from the Return of the King but again it was a split second shot so don't take my word.

Lego and Tauriel on a fake horse? Wonder if it will become a giant Stag?

Yes, my username is terrible.


Shagrat
Gondor

Jul 1 2013, 5:32pm


Views: 2290
I'm sure it will be a giant stag

Since the Empire article I think mentions Thranduil using it again.


AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Jul 1 2013, 5:36pm


Views: 2217
You beat me by five seconds Daniel. lol. You hadn't posted this when I typed

the new message. lol

"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


dormouse
Half-elven


Jul 1 2013, 5:38pm


Views: 2254
That was good!

Loved the glimpse of Thorin playing his sword like a guitar....

And Laketown was gorgeous. And as for Bain, that's the trouble with kids. All that growing!


jf300
The Shire

Jul 1 2013, 5:39pm


Views: 2224
Bain...

Is the same child from Wrath of the Titans, unless I'm mistaken.


The Mitch King
Rohan


Jul 1 2013, 5:40pm


Views: 2286
Interesting things

The Dale stuff really is intriguing. Laketown looks awesome. The orcs and elves look incredible. I also love the Erebor and Dale armories. *SPOILER* Anyone thinking Smaug will have to die in DoS? Looks like they won't have a problem with not enough material for TABA.


nhui06
Rivendell

Jul 1 2013, 5:40pm


Views: 2314
Some interesting points

Saw finished the VBlog, but I noticed some items:

- Seems like there will be more time spent in Dale. Interesting to see Tauriel there with the Dwarves; thought Bard was the one that takes the Dwarves there, but could it be Tauriel who runs away from home to accompany the Dwarves?

- Not sure if it is the same scene but you also see a battle at what looks like modern day (ruined) Dale at 1:59, where you see Gandalf there and Thrandruil there too in battle armor. This this a glimpse of the Battle of the 5 Armies in Dale?

- Does Gandalf wake up Thrain? There was a quick clip of Gandalf in Dol Guldur following what looks like a dwarf, who seems to be leading Gandalf around (7:56).

- Looks like Bard meets the Dwarves at the end of their river journey, but he does not look too pleased to see them.

- Bard has a son?


Anubis
Rivendell


Jul 1 2013, 5:42pm


Views: 2165
Loved it.

Seems like my prediction came true and there are people fighting in Dale against what seems to be orcs?

Also, nice armor designs there, although the mirkwood elves remind me a bit of the Lothlorien ones.

Edit: I thought a while ago that there was going to be a fight between Lake town and the orcs before the BOFA, unless the BOFA takes place in Dale, which seems weird.


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DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 1 2013, 5:48pm


Views: 2116
Yup, all the way back in 2011

See this post, and the thread in general.

Smile


Escapist
Gondor


Jul 1 2013, 5:48pm


Views: 2146
Agreed about spending time on the movie itself in place of Comic Con stuff.

I don't mind a few less spoilers besides.


Lily Brambleburr
The Shire

Jul 1 2013, 5:49pm


Views: 2117
John Bell

John Bell is the actor playing Bain.

And yes he is the child from Wrath of the Titans. Smile

"Courage is found in unlikely places." - J.R.R Tolkien




AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Jul 1 2013, 5:51pm


Views: 2177
Very Excited to see Gandalf with Legolas and hoping to see him with Thranduil

There hasn't been enough interaction with him and Elves who are noble but NOT nearly on par with incarnate Wizards. I also love the dynamic.

As to Dol Guldur. . . I believe what we see is Thrain leading Gandalf, which suggests it is not a Zombie of Thrain after all.

Very curious about Bilbo seemingly with Gandalf in Dale, I must say. THat is unexpected.

Thranduil looks magnificent, and Gandalf's beard looked good in a number of the clips.

Some of the other action I will haev to take A closer look at as of right now. lol

"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


Escapist
Gondor


Jul 1 2013, 5:51pm


Views: 2096
I loved the humor!

I hope that means that even though there might be a darker and more serious tone, there will still be some of that mirth from the original story peeking through.

I laughed:
Legolas (what's on his head?) / Tauriel / Gandalf
Radagast's poo (loved his line opening the blog too - although I didn't laugh, it was just cool)
DWARVERCISE!!! SOOOO FUNNY!


tarasaurus
Rohan


Jul 1 2013, 5:52pm


Views: 2135
Lmao

I thought the same thing!!! She looked like she was going to bust out laughing at any moment.

I freakin' love these blogs, they crack me up and amaze me every time. I just think about all the work that goes into every single detail and I'm blown away...it would have been a dream to work on these films (and LotR).


mx6789
Registered User

Jul 1 2013, 5:52pm


Views: 2070
It looks great!

I'm so glad to see a new vlog! I wonder if they'll go back to the principal photography of DoS for the future vlogs. I spotted this message on the wall of the studio at 2:47. If you can't read it, it says "Make tea, not love".


Jim
Rivendell


Jul 1 2013, 5:56pm


Views: 2111
Just as I expected...

this vlog was all about returning for pick up shooting. Since they've already finished expect another vlog around the corner, I'd say within the next month. Now going to watch it again.


CathrineB
Rohan


Jul 1 2013, 6:13pm


Views: 1606
I adore Lee Pace, but...

... that hairdo O_o A little "2006" if you know what I mean Sly

That being said I'm just getting more and more excited for this! I hoep there's another blog soon!


Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
Gondor


Jul 1 2013, 6:14pm


Views: 1706
Spoiler list after first view

Here are a few things I've noticed during my first view of it. I think there's much more when I rewatch it later:

DOL GULDUR
- Gandalf is following Thrain through Dol Guldur
- Gandalf reveals his fear about the Necromancer to Radagast before or after their visit (I think it's before)
- Radagast again rolls the R very strong

WOODLAND REALM
- Thranduil wears a lot of different costumes... it seems to be an Elven thing ;-)
- Legolas and Tauriel riding one horse haven't they more?
- Thranduils silver armor looks amazing in action
- The Elven armor from Thranduils army looks even better reminded me a little bit of the Lorien armor at Helms Deep

DALE
- The set is just great, especially with the snow
- Gandalf, Bilbo, Tauriel and Legolas Greenleaf meet in Dale but when? Is it the Arkenstone scene? Or is it from the second movie? But what is Gandalf doing there if it's not the Arkenstone scene?

GUNDABAD ORCS
- Lot's of prothetic Orcs. That's how we like them!
- Armor looks a little like the Mordor Orc armor but it was only a very brief shot

LAKE TOWN
- Looks again amazing. Already one of my favourite places in Middle-earth


In the end: A fantastic but short vlog, can't wait for the next one.

Only thing to say: Again almost no Bilbo but again lot's of Legolas, Tauriel and Thranduil


"There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power."


Welsh hero
Gondor


Jul 1 2013, 6:16pm


Views: 1408
I even posted in that thread

Blush

-Irfon

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Danielos
Rohan

Jul 1 2013, 6:16pm


Views: 1457
Some thoughts

Evangeline Lilly is so pretty!

Why can´t we ever see anything of Mikael Persbrandt? As a fellow Swede, I can´t bear this wait!

Hopefully these next two movies will be better planned and executed, since they are now shot and edited with a trilogy in mind!


TheHutt
Gondor


Jul 1 2013, 6:21pm


Views: 1401
Transcript anyone?

Especially in the conversations with the studio staff it's rather hard to understand them...

Russian LOTR & Hobbit Site: Henneth-Annun.ru


Owain
Tol Eressea


Jul 1 2013, 6:31pm


Views: 1419
I really appreciate that they continue...

to take the time to engage us, the fans.

To have this kind of access to the process, behind the scenes, and show us as much as they do... all while having fun with it, is very unique.

In an extremely demanding industry, it shows a lot of confidence and risk, to expose your artistry to the masses before the work is finished. They walk a very fine line of teasing us and giving us just enough, without spoiling it all. To me, they've walked that line very well. I always come away from the vlogs with a smile and a lot of anticipation for the next one... and of course an even greater excitement (if possible) of seeing the final movie(s).

As I've maintained in previous posts, I think AUJ was excellent and created the necessary expository setup. The Hobbit is deceivingly deep for a "children's tale".

The decision to make 3 movies is not a mistake in my book.

I believe this next movie is going to be huge. I certainly hope so. I can't wait to see it.


Smile

Middle Earth is New Zealand!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Elenorflower
Gondor


Jul 1 2013, 6:31pm


Views: 1458
Thranduil

looks fantastic, very mean and moody. The Dale set is very beautiful too.


NoelGallagher
Rohan


Jul 1 2013, 6:33pm


Views: 1480
Concerning the reveal...


In Reply To
Here are a few things I've noticed during my first view of it. I think there's much more when I rewatch it later:

DOL GULDUR
- Gandalf is following Thrain through Dol Guldur
- Gandalf reveals his fear about the Necromancer to Radagast before or after their visit (I think it's before)
- Radagast again rolls the R very strong

WOODLAND REALM
- Thranduil wears a lot of different costumes... it seems to be an Elven thing ;-)
- Legolas and Tauriel riding one horse haven't they more?
- Thranduils silver armor looks amazing in action
- The Elven armor from Thranduils army looks even better reminded me a little bit of the Lorien armor at Helms Deep

DALE
- The set is just great, especially with the snow
- Gandalf, Bilbo, Tauriel and Legolas Greenleaf meet in Dale but when? Is it the Arkenstone scene? Or is it from the second movie? But what is Gandalf doing there if it's not the Arkenstone scene?

GUNDABAD ORCS
- Lot's of prothetic Orcs. That's how we like them!
- Armor looks a little like the Mordor Orc armor but it was only a very brief shot

LAKE TOWN
- Looks again amazing. Already one of my favourite places in Middle-earth


In the end: A fantastic but short vlog, can't wait for the next one.

Only thing to say: Again almost no Bilbo but again lot's of Legolas, Tauriel and Thranduil


Do you think that Gandalf reveals his fear on the way to Dol Guldur or before/after the High Fells immediately ?! Before the Fells it cant really be,because Raddy apeears so suddenly there...i really believe its right after the Fells or Mirkwood.


Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
Gondor


Jul 1 2013, 6:38pm


Views: 1345
Yea I forgot about the High Fells

That would be another possibility yes. We know from the live event that the two visit the tombs which where not located in Dol Guldur but Rhudaur.

In this sequence it looks not like Mirkwood or Dol Guldur too me and Gandalf doesn't look that sure either. If he was sure that Sauron is back he would be looking much more scared/worried. This could be directly after the tomb scene. His fear is: The Nazgûl escaped their tombs. Which is a "grrrrrreat danger" to the world but not as dangerous as the return of the Dark Lord himself... we'll see but I think it might be after the High Fells scene.


"There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power."


NoelGallagher
Rohan


Jul 1 2013, 6:43pm


Views: 1289
Location


In Reply To
That would be another possibility yes. We know from the live event that the two visit the tombs which where not located in Dol Guldur but Rhudaur.

In this sequence it looks not like Mirkwood or Dol Guldur too me and Gandalf doesn't look that sure either. If he was sure that Sauron is back he would be looking much more scared/worried. This could be directly after the tomb scene. His fear is: The Nazgûl escaped their tombs. Which is a "grrrrrreat danger" to the world but not as dangerous as the return of the Dark Lord himself... we'll see but I think it might be after the High Fells scene.


Btw, did we ever got some location picture from the High Fells,except the picture from the chronicles ?! I cant remember...but,if that is right after the Fells, possibly in some kind of mountains, there is also a tree,which looks really ill and diseased, a hint for Mirkwood ? On the other side, where Gandalfs stands there are rocks,which could be a hint for mountains or the area around the High Fells.


MEIGWIT
Bree


Jul 1 2013, 6:46pm


Views: 1358
Dwarves encounter Smaug

I guess this vlog confirms that the dwarves do encounter Smaug in the film and not just Bilbo. There is a shot of the dwarves backing away on set and there is intense red and orange flickering light pushing them backwards, indicating that Smaug and the party have a confrontation of some sort or maybe they see him as he seethingly bursts out of Erebor towards lake town, either of which I believe is an improvement on the book! the shot is at 1:54 into the vlog if you care to give your take on it!

It is the little things in life that keep the darkness at bay.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 1 2013, 6:49pm


Views: 1272
A little longer than a month, I expect.

Only a couple of the actors have finished their pickups (Bloom, Lilly and McKellen). There are still a number of weeks to go.

I don't expect the next one until the end of August, at the earliest.

Smile


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 1 2013, 6:53pm


Views: 1233
People are on it, but it will take time.

I started my own, but I couldn't quite make out a couple of words/phrases.

If there's anything specific, I can try to be of some help until a full transcript is posted.

Smile


NoelGallagher
Rohan


Jul 1 2013, 7:01pm


Views: 1283
wasnt it


In Reply To
Felt more like 5. Wink Probably the most hilarious moment (Dwarvercising) shown in any of the previous production videos. It's a shame that there won't be any footage shown at Comic-Con this year - but like PJ says, I'd rather they concentrated on filming the film, than pleasing the fans.

I didn't catch anything particularly spoiler-y, did anyone else? Will have to watch it again, but more closely. It suggested to me that Tauriel, Legolas and Gandalf meet Bilbo in Dale? Perhaps this is the moment Bilbo hands over the Arkenstone? And where there 3 people (wizards?) walking around Dol Guldur?

Smile


just the cinematographer,right after Gandalf ?! But if so,where is Radagast then ???


Elessar
Valinor


Jul 1 2013, 7:04pm


Views: 1264
Bummer but understandable

I wish they were to going to be at Comic-Con as I rather enjoyed the panel last year but I'd rather them make another awesome movie. So you gotta give up something to get something I suppose.



Bombadil
Half-elven


Jul 1 2013, 7:06pm


Views: 1207
Yippie!

Chris Henna looks Awesome,
..Dan Henna is so lucky!
She reminds Bomby of my Goldberry
(Goldberry would have been,
73 years old last December)


Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Jul 1 2013, 7:07pm


Views: 1184
Comic Con

Yeah I am not surprised they aren't going. I figured it would be tight with all the finishing to do on both of the final 2 movies. There are no pickups next year I believe so they need to get it done now. That's a lot to crunch in between now and December and the actors are only available for a certain amount of time. That and i think a lot of the cast had other commitments so it was tough to get people for a panel. It's all good.

Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/13


Eleniel
Tol Eressea


Jul 1 2013, 7:07pm


Views: 1346
Anyone else notice...

Kili and Tauriel together at around 2:10?

perhaps they were rehearsing a scene for the romance subplot... Wink


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
¯ Victoria Monfort


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jul 1 2013, 7:16pm


Views: 1214
What if it is an elk?

I was thinking that it was probably something besides a horse since the two of them are able to ride together (not that this can't happen on a regular horse). I think it could be one of the giant elks, which would make it a nice continuity with the AUJ prologue.

Of course, it could just be a horse in the film. Other actors in LOTR actually did something similar for the close-ups. Liv Tyler and David Wenham both rode fake horses at one time or another.

"...not till now have I understood the tale of your people and their fall.
As wicked fools I scorned them, but I pity them at last.
For if this is indeed, as the Eldar say, the gift of the One to Men,
it is bitter to receive." -Arwen Undómiel




DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 1 2013, 7:17pm


Views: 1168
Yup, looks like a cameraman, Gandalf and Thrain.

When I first watched it (and because it was so brief), I thought I saw Saruman, Gandalf and Radagast. Wishful thinking, and all that. Wink


tarasaurus
Rohan


Jul 1 2013, 7:22pm


Views: 1173
oh man...

I didn't notice it, but that's probably the only thing that could bother me about this movie >_< I'll have to go watch it again!


Elessar
Valinor


Jul 1 2013, 7:23pm


Views: 1124
Close call

Yeah, I figured it would be a close call to have something for a panel but assumed they would be there. I had read a few things that said there would be a panel. So it appears this was a last minute change to be honest. So like you said with all that has to be done I'd rather they nail the movies than worry about a panel.



sycorax82
Rohan

Jul 1 2013, 7:35pm


Views: 1159
Getting much more of a LOTR vibe from this shooting!

AUJ felt too small for me. Yes, there were some big CGI shots and location vistas but all that was more like window dressing with very little real drama going on.

This reshoots/pickups look far more solid and intense. It's Pirates of the Caribbean time with Laketown! :D


Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Jul 1 2013, 7:37pm


Views: 1060
Agree

As much as I'd like to see them at comic con (and I suspect they will be there next year with bells on as they say) I want them to get the movies done and done right so yeah I'll take it. Now I will admit if they don't show next year I will be disappointed. I think they will be though. For one thing I know some of the cast, like Freeman, had commitments when Comic con was taking place (Ep 3 of Sherlock is scheduled to be filmed then) and also I think some of the dwarf cast did as well so they just couldn't make it. Plenty of time to plan for next year and I'm sure TABA is going to go forth with a bang and they will throw all they have and the kitchen sink into rolling out the publicity for it. So it's all good and we can look forward to some great movies!

Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/13


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jul 1 2013, 7:39pm


Views: 1108
Bain

I really liked seeing Bain! I think he's going to be a great addition to Bard's backstory. I wonder if he'll have a wife, too? Have we heard anything at all about Bain's mother?

"...not till now have I understood the tale of your people and their fall.
As wicked fools I scorned them, but I pity them at last.
For if this is indeed, as the Eldar say, the gift of the One to Men,
it is bitter to receive." -Arwen Undómiel




Metal Slug
Rivendell

Jul 1 2013, 7:41pm


Views: 1205
I see they didn't

Take any of the constant bird poo criticism to heart. I don't understand it. Crazy. Dale will be back, I thought it might. Im gonna watch again, but it didn't seem like a lot of meat on the bone. Then again, I don't want many spoilers.


Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Jul 1 2013, 7:45pm


Views: 1232
"Well that was adequate."

I love seeing our band of Dwarves get together - something odd is always just around the corner!

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Miceluz
The Shire

Jul 1 2013, 7:54pm


Views: 1189
Beorn

Strange that they have not shown anything about Beorn. Not a single frame of Mikael Persbrandt???

Why??


NoelGallagher
Rohan


Jul 1 2013, 7:57pm


Views: 1155
was Persbrandt there for some pick ups ?!

if not, its pretty clear cause this blog is all about those pick ups...


dormouse
Half-elven


Jul 1 2013, 7:58pm


Views: 1156
Not that I know of....

But they might show a Mrs Bard even so. Peter Jackson seems to like showing wives and families in the background of battle scenes.


Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 1 2013, 7:59pm


Views: 1103
I'm working on a transcript too.

Hopefully between the two of us we can fill in any blanks. Stay tuned. Smile

Silverlode

"Dark is the water of Kheled-zâram, and cold are the springs of Kibil-nâla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dûm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone."



Miceluz
The Shire

Jul 1 2013, 8:02pm


Views: 1125
Yes I think so

He told Swedish newspaper some time ago that he was supposed to go back to New Zeeland this summer for pick-ups.

They have really kept him secret not showing anything almost except for the bear face in the door in the trailer and the bear in the poster.. But nothing of the human shaped beorn??


sycorax82
Rohan

Jul 1 2013, 8:03pm


Views: 1168
I get the feeling his look is one big spoiler, or he'll hardly feature

It's still unclear how big Beorn's role will turn out to be, especially after the 3 film split. Now, there's so much going on that Beorn could easily be cut completely.


Metal Slug
Rivendell

Jul 1 2013, 8:06pm


Views: 1207
Call me crazy

But that almost didn't look like Gandalf. If it weren't for the staff, he looked bald and run down, in extra dishevelled garb. ??


NoelGallagher
Rohan


Jul 1 2013, 8:11pm


Views: 1130
which shot youre talking about ?!


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But that almost didn't look like Gandalf. If it weren't for the staff, he looked bald and run down, in extra dishevelled garb. ??



Skaan
Lorien


Jul 1 2013, 8:17pm


Views: 1088
Expanded role

Didn't PJ once said in an interview how they've expanded Beorn's role in the movies because they loved Mikael's portrayal of Beorn? And this was also after the decision to turn it into a trilogy.


malickfan
Gondor


Jul 1 2013, 8:20pm


Views: 1128
Non Racist!-Er is it just me or was that a Asian Elve at 7:16?

Could have phrased that better (I did not mean to offend anyone), but was it just me or was the middle of the three Elves (admittedly probably an extra or stuntman in costume) an Asian? Could PJ be going the Laktown route and Making the Elves more ethically diverse? Is this backed up by the books? Were the different clans of Elves actually seperate races?

On a side note nice to See PJ has abadoned greenscreen...

Still Dale looks very promising.

I will repeat my catchphrase 'Dammit still No Billy Connoly!)

This is not a very interesting signature is it?


Metal Slug
Rivendell

Jul 1 2013, 8:22pm


Views: 1094
Oops


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But that almost didn't look like Gandalf. If it weren't for the staff, he looked bald and run down, in extra dishevelled garb. ??


8:06 -I guess its him.


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jul 1 2013, 8:22pm


Views: 1065
I hope she's around somewhere

The thought had crossed my mind that she might die in the destruction of Laketown, but it was just a thought and not based on anything.

"...not till now have I understood the tale of your people and their fall.
As wicked fools I scorned them, but I pity them at last.
For if this is indeed, as the Eldar say, the gift of the One to Men,
it is bitter to receive." -Arwen Undómiel




CathrineB
Rohan


Jul 1 2013, 8:28pm


Views: 1036
Could be an elk

Yeah I know, I was just going by horse since that's what Orlando said in the video (if I remember correct) XD


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 1 2013, 8:29pm


Views: 1021
I can remember these two articles saying he had extra scenes to film this year

See this thread and also this thread. I can't remember PJ ever confirming this, but I could be wrong.

Since we rarely hear about Beorn/Persbrandt, I'm guessing his re-shoots and pick-ups could've been and gone.

Smile


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Rostron2
Gondor


Jul 1 2013, 8:31pm


Views: 1030
Lake Town

The town looks quite large to me, compared to artists renderings over the year. Perhaps the contingent of Men in the Bo5A isn't so small as we believe?


Skaan
Lorien


Jul 1 2013, 8:37pm


Views: 993
Found it

For those who haven't read it yet:

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/12/03/66521-jackson-persbrandt-to-gain-larger-role-in-the-hobbit/


Elessar
Valinor


Jul 1 2013, 8:37pm


Views: 970
Agreed with you agree :-)

I loved it last year. It was the first time in the years I've been going Middle-earth had such a huge presence. Them not going is a bummer because I was looking forward to camping out and seeing the panel. I agree that next year they will be there I'm sure rocking the con. This year is still going to be great with all the product for the movies, TORn panel, hanging with my fellow TORn staffers, and hanging with my many friends that show up. So it's still a win. :-) I'm with ya! These movies are going to be fantastic.



BornOutOfTheWest
Rivendell


Jul 1 2013, 8:37pm


Views: 1095
Thranduil and Elves at Dol Guldur....

That shot of Thranduil in his silver armour appears to be set in Dol Guldur, the rocks look similar - or I could just be mistaken and it may be Dale? Anyway, I'm still confused about the elves involvement in the Battle Of Dol Guldur.... I remember a few months ago when the idea of Tauriel being given the Witch Kings prophecy surfaced and everyone was in uproar. Is this still on, and if it is, doesn't it make sense that she should be at Dol Guldur and not Dale/Laketown?


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cats16
Valinor

Jul 1 2013, 8:40pm


Views: 1004
Really neat stuff!

Great to see everyone back together down there, even though some have already left now. They all seem very excited about this film, which is great to me. It's awesome how much fun they have during downtime, when sets are being prepared. I know, from experience, that the downtime between takes/shots is very important for morale and performance. So I love the dynamic between everyone in NZ!

I noticed a nice Steadicam shot of Gandalf/Thrain walking in Dol Guldur. Great to see so much diversity in shots with these films. Also a fantastic use of actors on different planes in the frame throughout the vlog, too.

Story-wise, I'm also interested as to why Gandalf, Tauriel, and Legolas are with *at the least* Bilbo in Dale. I would guess there are some minor alterations being made to the period before the BoFA, mainly concerning all of the emissaries of Lake-town and the Woodland Realm. I need to watch the vlog again, though, so I don't draw erroneous conclusions based on quick snippets of video I've watched twice Wink.

I'm really excited, as always, for the next few months. I'm sure the effects team is working diligently on the multitude of CGI for various shots and creatures. And, personally, I'm sort of happy that Beorn hasn't been revealed to us in any capacity (other than in the trailer, assuming it is him). I like having some things kept in total mystery before I see it. But I do understand those asking for a little bit of a sneak peek into his human form.

All in all, awesome stuff! Smile


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 1 2013, 8:50pm


Views: 1033
Doesn't really deserve its own thread: Peter Jackson also uploads picture of Dale under a beautiful sunrise

Click here

Get that camera rolling! You'll miss it. Wink


Elenorflower
Gondor


Jul 1 2013, 9:12pm


Views: 942
I found it a bit distracting too

its an odd choice but whatever. I dont think its a good idea to have extras that pop out and take you out of the moment because you are going 'hey look at that guy', but whatever.

I must say that I have so much respect and admiration for the crew. They are so talented and creative, it must be great to work with such dedicated and enthusiastic people, no wonder they all enjoy themselves.


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Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Jul 1 2013, 9:19pm


Views: 876
Nice pic!

Love that. Just beautiful!

Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/13


Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 1 2013, 9:26pm


Views: 996
TRANSCRIPT! Get your Vlog 11 transcript here!

PJ: Hi, welcome to the new blog! But before that, I just want to pass on some news which I'm sure is going to be disappointing to anyone going to ComiCon this year - any fans - that a couple of days ago I told Warners that I just really wasn't ready to present anything of the Desolation of Smaug at ComiCon this year. The reasons for that are...well, there are several, really. We're still shooting and we're going to be shooting through the period of ComiCon and so we looked at what actors we could send, you know, to make a really cool panel. There wasn't really anybody available, I can't go, so faced with that the prospect was then, you know, record some messages, have a really cool sizzle reel. But you know, the problem is I'm so busy shooting, working 6 days a week trying to get these pickups done that every hour that I spend focusing on a really great reel for ComiCon, and it would have to be great, would be hours spent away from the vital job of making the second and third Hobbit films as cool as they can possibly be. I mean, this is the last ditch shooting that we're doing and it's going fantastic and these are going to be great movies. And I just had to take the ComiCon burden, if you like, off my shoulders because I'm very very hands-on on those reels, as I should, I want them to be fantastic and I really didn't want to send anything this year that was going to be less than fantastic so I'm sure you'll understand. We're going to jump back into it and keep shooting, doing everything we can to make sure these next two films are fantastic and they're going to be great. And I'm sure you'll see more of the movie as the year goes on, just nothing at ComiCon this year. But the good news out of this is that we have a new video blog, so let's roll that. Thank you.

Radagast:
Gandalf, if what you say is true, the world is in grave danger.

PJ:
A new blog is sweeping in from the north!

Thorin:
"Balin!"

PJ: And...cut!

PJ:
Hello! Welcome to the first blog of 2013. And this is a block of a few weeks of shooting we're doing, it's what we call pick-up shooting.

Crew member: Yo, we're back! Look out!

Jared Connon:
We rebuilt the unit base, we rebuilt the trailer park here at Stone Street.

Glenn Shaw:
Putting the jigsaw back together for us, literally. Brought in all the makeup, costume, prosthetics vehicles. Crew's arriving, everybody is happy about being back again.

Misc Crew members:
Oh, Hello! Hi!

Driver: Boys are amped, pumped, looking forward to it. Fire it up, get amongst it.

Ann Maskrey: Shoot it! We're just going to shoot it.

PJ: When we finished principal photography last year, we stored all the sets in huge big warehouses, all the costumes, the cast are all flying back into New Zealand. It's a reunion of people, props, and sets.

Norm Willerton: We are very much in full swing. We're bringing Laketown back, we're bringing Mirkwood Forest back, we'll be revisiting Dale...

Unknown: It's been covered up for years. We're just pulling off all the coverings right now.

Norm Willerton: We knew it was going to be pretty fast. And true to form, it is.

Construction foreman: Can't actually see the plans because I left my spectacles at home. So I've got Dave the Punk here...

Dave: Hi!

Foreman:...who is going to be my eyes.

Dave: I don't actually know how to use a scale ruler, so this should be interesting.

Chris Hennah: For our props and set deck, it's finding all the props. We have warehouses full of props.

Ra Vincent: This is an off-site prop store that we've put together for film two. Over here we've got the contents of the Dale armory. There are over 2000 items made specific for that one scene. This, of course, is the kitchen. Our kitchen is shared with some corpses. Every space is valuable when you're talking about prop storage.

Glenn Boswell: Ok, here we are again, we're actually waiting for the actors to come en masse, all together for the first time so it's really going to be good to see them all together after about six, seven months. Hugs and kisses and then we can get to some fighting.

Glenn, to actors: Here we go again, yes all right!

Graham McTavish: Good to be back, apart from with these two.
Dean O'Gorman: Thanks.
Stephen Hunter: Marvelous. See? That's marvelous.
Graham: I mean it is good to be back but technically I would rather be back with somebody else other than these two.
Dean: Son of a b***h. It's Groundhog Day.
Stephen: And it's all good, I mean that was fun.

Fight trainer: Slice some arachtite (sic)

Jed Brophy to Graham McTavish: That was really adequate, man. Lovely move.

Fight trainer: Golf clap. I mean, no, big clap! They all hate my guts.
John Callen: Really, really hate him.

PJ: Of course, we've also got the Battle of the Five Armies, which is for the third Hobbit movie. In fact, while we're talking about the Battle of the Five Armies, we obviously can't show you any of that. However, we are putting our dwarves through a very extensive training regime. They have to be fighting fit for that battle and so they're working very hard at the moment.

Adam Brown: Ok, so in preparation for the Battle of Five Armies, all of us dwarves have been doing some rigorous training and you've caught us just as we're about to start one.

Jed Brophy: And...up, down, up, down...pump! Come on, pump them thighs! A little bit of running now...
Dwarf exercise video shots
Jed: open it up, open up the pelvis...well done!
Mark Hadlow: We're fit fighting machines.

PJ: And to give you a sense of what pick-ups are, we shot about 18 months ago down at the Pelorus River in the South Island.

Bard: Now, that would get you killed.

PJ: We were filming and then got flooded out by a flash storm. So here we are 18 months later in the relative safety, hopefully, of the back lot. The weather's not looking too bad, hopefully we're not going to get a flood through here and we're just doing a little bit more shooting for the scene on the riverbank.

Balin: You're from Laketown, if I'm not mistaken.

PJ: It will look exactly the same, I promise you, when you see it in the movie. Exactly the same.

Peter King:
Pick-ups, what does it mean? It means getting your poo exactly the same. We are having to do pick-ups with Radagast and we have to make sure that his poo looks like it did a year ago. And that's sometimes difficult because we all know, poo changes. And it dries out and it cracks, and so now we've got to replace the poo and make it look exactly the same.

Sylvester McCoy:
People actually do collect my poo. It's on sale at a shop near you.

Liz Mullane: No, the number's not working. Aw, man, that's like the third one this morning. For the pick-ups we need lots of people and I've been ringing, trying to get people. They've changed their numbers, they've moved, What is that?

Victoria Beynon: I'm trying to find Elves. And of the 30 Elves that we've had I have about two that can confirm so far. One of them's in the London Ballet now and the other one has put on 40lbs.

Liz: That's selfish.

Victoria: You know, I'm over it.

Liz: No! Oh my god, I've got a whole lot of people to ring and now there's a fire alarm.

Emergency Coordinator: Yearly drill, look at their happy, smiley faces.

Liz: There are some great faces on the crew. Really good Laketowners. Maybe not any Elves.

Peter King: Still making bird poo!

PJ: Because the pick-up scenes are really spanning the width of the second and third Hobbit movies, we're really traveling to most of the destinations that those films do.

PJ to dwarves:
Thank you for being here again, in the webs. You look like you never left. You've got the same smells, the same fungus is growing inside your bl***y costumes...
Stephen Hunter: It's weird how comforting it all just feels.

Bofur: Oh yeah, uh-huh.

Nori: All I'm saying, that's the last date we have, ok? Go to a movie, he said. Go down on the beach, but no! I wake up, I'm covered in this stuff. Not only that, those are all those exes over there!

PJ: And, action!
Gandalf: Legolas Greenleaf! And you...?
Tauriel: Hi! I'm Tauriel, very nice to meet you.
Gandalf: Hello, welcome to the film!

Evangeline Lilly: We're shooting right now in the Smaug-desolated Dale, therefore the title of the film; the Desolation of Smaug.I was here last year when this set was in its full glory and looked incredible. It looked like a beautiful European plaza. Now it's winter and there's snow everywhere and it's really dramatic.

Orlando: I popped my cherry on the fake horse today, having Evie on the back. And the first time they had us sit up and she was behind me, we were both moving in rhythm and she's behind me and it's like...*cackles*

PJ: We've been shooting for a week or so now, so we've got a little bit of footage from the first week which we'll put into this blog and the plan is to do another blog at the end of the pick-up shooting so we can bring you up to speed with whatever's going to happen over the next few weeks.

Luke Evans: Bard Marty(?)...of Laketown. We're back in Laketown, this is the fifth version of this town that's been built for the movie and we're here to do pick-ups, right?

John Bell (Bain):
Pick-ups for 10 weeks.

Luke: I've played this character for a whole year in this environment, and not once did I fall in the water. And what happened on my first day back? As you can see, this man has grown. Because this is his normal size.
John: Everyone keeps telling me I've grown.
Luke: In the film, he will be this size, which is appropriate, because he's my son. We hope that you come and check in with us in the next few months when we'll be showing you a little bit more of hobbits and amazing sets and locations we're working on.
John Bell: I can't wait to get started.
Luke: Don't grow any more, please. Don't grow any more.
John: I can't promise that.
Luke: This is ridiculous now, it's ridiculous!
John: Thanks for watching!

To be Continued....

Silverlode

"Dark is the water of Kheled-zâram, and cold are the springs of Kibil-nâla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dûm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone."



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Vila
The Shire


Jul 1 2013, 9:30pm


Views: 1024
Thank you so much!

Thank you, thank you, thank you very much! You're the best, thanks for your work. You'are a hero for a lot of people of all the world ;)

Cheers and thank you again for your amazing work!


arithmancer
Grey Havens


Jul 1 2013, 9:33pm


Views: 1040
Not much Bilbo

May not mean much considering this is for pick-ups. The scenes Bilbo is in, I would guess, are to a large degree the ones that were always going to be in a 2-movie Hobbit. Also, while we saw little of him, he must have been present for several of the scenes shown (Bard and the Dwarves in the barrels, and the spider scene, to name two) - they just did not choose to feature him in the vlog, showing us instead more about the new characters from the second movie.


Dwarvenfury
Lorien

Jul 1 2013, 9:50pm


Views: 1052
my supposition.

Gandalf, Legolas, and Tauriel are fighting the BoFA on the streets of Dale. It is snowing and Gandalf
is fighting orcs. What else could it be? Outfitted Thranduil also appears to be battling amongst ruins.

They mentioned the armory of dale and it being the setting for a particular scene. It also showed human corpses
in the bloodied snow. This can only mean one thing imo... After the dragon Smaug is slain, the people of Laketown
come to resettle Dale. The orc army descends upon the region, and the poor people arm themselves from the old
Dale armories. If there is fighting in Dale's streets though, this has to be one big battle... it must stretch all the way
from Dale to the gates of Erebor? How are the defenders in Dale supposed to rally to Thorin and our company at the gate?
Thoughts?

I do like PJ's opening segment. He seems to be real excited about the upcoming films and wants to ensure the quality of the upcoming
content. I like this. Smile


NoelGallagher
Rohan


Jul 1 2013, 10:01pm


Views: 1013
Compare

this pic:

http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/high-fells.jpg

and the first scene with Gandalf and Radagast. The same landscape..so i´m quite sure that scene is right after investigating the tombs.


Glorfindela
Valinor


Jul 1 2013, 10:32pm


Views: 931
Great vlog!

Thandruil looks wonderful (the little we see of him), and the Lake Town setting is lovely. Great to see the Dwarves again. Costumes and settings look really promising.

Appreciate what PJ said about Comic Con at the beginning – far better for him to remain focused on the film.

But I don't want any Beorn or Smaug spoilers before the film is released – would really prefer to see those for the first time in the film itself.


Metal Slug
Rivendell

Jul 1 2013, 10:34pm


Views: 902
Agreed.

I'd like to see some surprises. (Good ones hopefully.) Shocked


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Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Jul 1 2013, 10:39pm


Views: 913
That's fantastic - thanks Silverlode! One wee edit:

In this bit:

Nori: All I'm saying, that's the last date we have, ok? Go to a movie, he said. Go down on the beach, but no! I wake up, I'm covered in this stuff. Not only that, those are all those extras over there!


...Nori is saying 'exes' (as in ex-boyfriends), not extras.

Boy you've got speedy typing skills to get the transcript done so quickly. Smile

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Elizabeth
Half-elven


Jul 1 2013, 10:43pm


Views: 902
It's good marketing.

They know what it takes to keep a fan base excited and on edge, and they're working it.








Brethil
Half-elven


Jul 1 2013, 10:54pm


Views: 875
Thanks Daniel for putting this up! (And thanks to Ainur-Olorin too, for the thought!)

I am thrilled to see how multi-dimensional and animated Thranduil comes across as! Was iffy at first about the character but I do like what I am seeing. Confirmation of the other shots we have seen of Thorin within the Mirkwood webbing.

Too bad about ComicCon but I thank them ALL for the effort going into the production instead.

Manwe, when asked a simple "Yes" or "No" question, contemplated, and responded "the middle one."

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Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 1 2013, 10:55pm


Views: 864
Ah, thanks!

I had a hard time making that line out at all. I've made the change in the transcript. Smile

Silverlode

"Dark is the water of Kheled-zâram, and cold are the springs of Kibil-nâla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dûm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone."



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elaen32
Gondor


Jul 1 2013, 11:00pm


Views: 850
Thanks for posting this link Daniel!

Really enjoyed the Vlog- but I will have to watch again to pick up on some of the action. This is making me more excited for the next film.

"Beneath the roof of sleeping leaves the dreams of trees unfold"


malickfan
Gondor


Jul 1 2013, 11:04pm


Views: 850
Thanks Daniel

Surprised its taken them this long for a new blog. The sets and costumes look fantastic-More than can be said for Evanglein Lilly's 'acting' (though if I'm honest I'm pretty dissapointed they completey ignored Tolkien's own, very clear conception of Laketown).

Lee Pace shows every sign of being my Richard Armitage (i.e. Giving much unexpected depth to a underdeveloped character-not a fan of Armitage, but Pace looks very very promising), loving Dale in the snow, I'm a little worried that Legolas is being featured so heavily though-don't even try to pretend that's in the appendices PJ!. Glad we are being kept in the dark about Smaug and Beorn.

Was really hoping for a sneak peak at Dain, oh well....

This is not a very interesting signature is it?


IdrilofGondolin
Rohan

Jul 1 2013, 11:17pm


Views: 828
Me, too

That's why most of it is elves and Bard. That's my take. PJ is adding scenes with these characters as the Bilbo story line is, as they say, in the can. Glad to see there will be snow.


Elizabeth
Half-elven


Jul 1 2013, 11:53pm


Views: 825
Was he an Elf?

He was fighting, and not fully costumed. I think he could have just been a stuntie who might end up as an orc or goodness knows what by the time they got done with the scene.








Lauryn
Bree

Jul 1 2013, 11:59pm


Views: 840
Mithril Shirt

http://constantlycold.tumblr.com/post/54383407626/ourpathislaid-bilbo-is-wearing-the-mithril

Looks like Bilbo is wearing the mithril! This really shouldn't excite me as much as it does... I guess it's the small things but I can't wait for the scene where Thorin gives it to him.


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Aitieuriskon
Lorien


Jul 2 2013, 12:25am


Views: 867
Concerning Legolas and Tauriel on the elk

What's with the guy in the greenscreen suit behind Tauriel on the elk?

"After all, I believe that legends and myths are largely made of 'truth', and indeed present aspects of it that can only be received in this mode; and long ago certain truths and modes of this kind were discovered and must always reappear." Professor Tolkien, 1951


The Grey Elf
Grey Havens


Jul 2 2013, 12:30am


Views: 798
Not Asian, I think

But possibly Maori (assuming we're speaking about the same shot). That is the actor, not the elf. Wink


The Grey Elf
Grey Havens


Jul 2 2013, 12:35am


Views: 852
Loved that RA peek, too!

Hope somebody gets that as a screen cap. It would make great material for captions. Smile


Bombadil
Half-elven


Jul 2 2013, 12:40am


Views: 817
It ?.IZZ..the Mithril Coat Bilbo is wearing!!!/

 


(This post was edited by Bombadil on Jul 2 2013, 12:41am)


The Grey Elf
Grey Havens


Jul 2 2013, 12:44am


Views: 807
Anybody else notice the dwarfs seem to be sporting longer hair?

At least from what we saw in the hilarious exercise "video." It's nice that they're showing the passage of time that way and their scraggly 'dos to reflect the rough adventures they've been through. Perhaps by the end of the movie, Kili will have grown an actual beard.


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jul 2 2013, 12:47am


Views: 762
I'd love to see time passing like that.

It would add just enough realism but also be nice and subtle.

"...not till now have I understood the tale of your people and their fall.
As wicked fools I scorned them, but I pity them at last.
For if this is indeed, as the Eldar say, the gift of the One to Men,
it is bitter to receive." -Arwen Undómiel




bungobaggins
Lorien


Jul 2 2013, 1:01am


Views: 792
Gandalf's staff

One of the comments on torn's main page said that Gandalf is weilding a different staff in the glimpse that we him fighting in Dale. What do you guys think?

Here's a few screen-shots. http://imgur.com/a/CUv3N It looks like Radagast's staff with its spindly ends rather than the enclosed shape at the top of Gandalf's staff. So is it Radagast's? We know McCoy has said that his staff becomes "important" to the story later on. So this might confirm that Gandalf takes Raddie's staff.

There's been a lot of speculation that Radagast will die, and it seems like quite a few people here are comfortable with that idea. Despite the fact that I'm not the biggest fan of how he's been portrayed, I would be wholly uncomfortable with him dying. For me it seems extremely cheap to kill him off just because he doesn't appear in the LOTR trilogy.

Does anyone have any other theories? Perhaps Gandalf's staff is simply broken by the Necromancer Unimpressed (ROTK EE Witch-king scene, blech) and Radagast offers his staff to Gandalf.

I can't lie, I'm pretty worried about all this.


PattyJB
Rivendell


Jul 2 2013, 1:04am


Views: 769
He's the one making the "elk(?)" move

At least that's what I think.



Brethil
Half-elven


Jul 2 2013, 1:06am


Views: 770
I'm probably being fanciful but I thought he looked a bit sad there.//


In Reply To
Hope somebody gets that as a screen cap. It would make great material for captions. Smile


Coming soon!- The first TORn Amateur Symposium, starts Sunday 21st July in the Reading Room. Closing date for essay submission Sunday 14th July, but even if you don't submit, join us for some interesting discussion on some different and personal ways of looking at Tolkien's work.


PattyJB
Rivendell


Jul 2 2013, 1:09am


Views: 737
I would say yes.

The middle elf of the trio at 7:15 looks East Asian and possibly female.



flameofudun
Lorien

Jul 2 2013, 1:10am


Views: 1015
Well radaghast is confirmed to be in TABA

So yeah, he will be in the third movie so I do not think he will die

''We are very dangerous over short distances''

-Gimli


Esmeralda
Bree


Jul 2 2013, 1:31am


Views: 997
Bard Marley

Luke Evans: Bard Marty(?)...of Laketown.

I think he's actually saying "Bard Marley" here, in a very interesting Jamaican-Welsh accent :)


entmaiden
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 2 2013, 2:12am


Views: 972
That was awesome!

 
I couldn't watch it until now. Great v-log.

Sad about ComicCon, but that might be good news for TORN, because WE have a panel, so that means we're the only Hobbit source at ComicCon this year. Go us!


Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Jul 2 2013, 2:38am


Views: 928
Yay

should be packed!

Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/13


hobbitylass
Bree


Jul 2 2013, 2:39am


Views: 949
Oh my yes

he really does look very very good.


Elessar
Valinor


Jul 2 2013, 3:15am


Views: 926
It's different

I know its different for the last movie and different than my statue from Weta. It's very similar to the one he has in Fellowship.

I hope they don't kill Radagast. I don't like the bird poop but I really enjoy the character.



kbdiggity
Rivendell

Jul 2 2013, 3:31am


Views: 921
....

Looks like the ruined city of Dale is where Bilbo will be handing over the Arkenstone to Gandalf and the elves. I don't know if that means the Elves will be sheltering in the ruined city while they lay siege to the Lonely Mountain, or if it was just a convenient place for Bilbo to meet Gandalf.


Scalpy
Bree

Jul 2 2013, 3:35am


Views: 919
I've got it!

Legolas and Tauriel....riding Smaug to the BOFA?

Crazy


Dipling
Lorien

Jul 2 2013, 5:57am


Views: 816
Yes

You can see thay have longer beards and hair in some shots.
Great.


namarie
Rohan


Jul 2 2013, 6:11am


Views: 819
I don't mind that they will show nothing at ComicCon

That's OK.
Best part of the video blog: Dwarf trainingSmile

And too bad that they are not showing anything from DOS shootings from last year. But I guess they are too busy with the reshoots.

And at least we have a new vblog :)

Thanks for sharing Daniel!


"The world is not in your books and maps. It's out there!"

"Such is the nature of evil. In time all foul things come forth."


Hamfast of Gamwich
Rivendell


Jul 2 2013, 6:37am


Views: 797
where did you hear that radagast is onfirmed to be in TABA?

 

"Durin's Heir you may be, but even with one eye you should see clearer. If this is victory, then our hands are too small to hold it. We will not enter Khazad-dum. You will not enter Khazad-dum. Beyond the shadow of the gate it waits for you still: Durin’s Bane. The world must change and some other power than ours must come before Durin’s Folk walk again in Moria.”


TwirlingThorin
Bree

Jul 2 2013, 6:55am


Views: 840
Link to "Thorin playing air guitar on Orcrist" GIF

http://memythoughtsandwhoknows.wordpress.com/...rin-plays-air-guitar

Thanks to Jasrangoon


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 2 2013, 7:11am


Views: 775
Jigsaw!


Quote
Glenn Shaw: Putting the jigsaw back together for us, literally. Brought in all the makeup, costume, prosthetics vehicles. Crew's arriving, everybody is happy about being back again.


For the life of me I just couldn't work out what he was saying. Thank you for a very thorough transcript Silverlode.

Smile


Silmaril
Rohan


Jul 2 2013, 7:22am


Views: 794
finally a new, great blog!

great new scenes! Heart


Moahunter
Rohan


Jul 2 2013, 8:05am


Views: 813
Woohoo!!!! Spotted myself.

Hope Its not my only appearance.


AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Jul 2 2013, 8:15am


Views: 748
I don't like the idea of Radagast's incarnation being destroyed. And, while I would understand Sauron

breaking Gandalf's staff (debatable but conceivable) it would be beyond anathema to have The Witch King do it, especially at this stage where he is far less potent (it was outrage enough in the never to be otherwise mentioned ROTK EE scene).

Howver, while the staff IS different in this battle scene, it is worth noting that there is another scene of Gandalf merely standing around in Dale, presumably at the time he meets up with Legolas et al, and the staff is the same as in An Unexpected. . . it could be that we are seeing two entirely different scenes.

In Reply To
One of the comments on torn's main page said that Gandalf is weilding a different staff in the glimpse that we him fighting in Dale. What do you guys think?

Here's a few screen-shots. http://imgur.com/a/CUv3N It looks like Radagast's staff with its spindly ends rather than the enclosed shape at the top of Gandalf's staff. So is it Radagast's? We know McCoy has said that his staff becomes "important" to the story later on. So this might confirm that Gandalf takes Raddie's staff.

There's been a lot of speculation that Radagast will die, and it seems like quite a few people here are comfortable with that idea. Despite the fact that I'm not the biggest fan of how he's been portrayed, I would be wholly uncomfortable with him dying. For me it seems extremely cheap to kill him off just because he doesn't appear in the LOTR trilogy.

Does anyone have any other theories? Perhaps Gandalf's staff is simply broken by the Necromancer Unimpressed (ROTK EE Witch-king scene, blech) and Radagast offers his staff to Gandalf.

I can't lie, I'm pretty worried about all this.


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 2 2013, 8:27am


Views: 749
Where?

Do tell. Smile

Silverlode

"Dark is the water of Kheled-zâram, and cold are the springs of Kibil-nâla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dûm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone."



Starling
Half-elven


Jul 2 2013, 8:30am


Views: 761
Now look here

you can't just leave us hanging like that!


Lissuin
Valinor


Jul 2 2013, 8:46am


Views: 756
Moahunter.

He's going to be impossible to live with.Mad
Wink


(This post was edited by Lissuin on Jul 2 2013, 8:48am)


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 2 2013, 9:12am


Views: 684
Another picture update from Peter Jackson: Dale, 11 hours later

Click here

Smile

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TheHutt
Gondor


Jul 2 2013, 10:32am


Views: 650
Thanks for the transcript!

Russian subtitles are done, too. Smile

Russian LOTR & Hobbit Site: Henneth-Annun.ru


The Grey Elf
Grey Havens


Jul 2 2013, 10:37am


Views: 658
Perhaps he's just playing a sentimental song ....

Wink


The Grey Elf
Grey Havens


Jul 2 2013, 10:40am


Views: 644
Sweet! //

 


namarie
Rohan


Jul 2 2013, 10:46am


Views: 662
just noticed that an orc is also dwarveciseing with the dwarves :)) //

 


"The world is not in your books and maps. It's out there!"

"Such is the nature of evil. In time all foul things come forth."


dave_lf
Gondor

Jul 2 2013, 12:17pm


Views: 637
Closing music

Anyone recognize the music from the last few seconds? Is it just some stock material, or could it be a preview of the Laketown theme?


Carne
Tol Eressea

Jul 2 2013, 12:34pm


Views: 846
One of the gentlemen sitting behind Bard at 9:44? //

 


Retro315
Rivendell

Jul 2 2013, 1:09pm


Views: 801
Rhudaur

On one hand, I have a huge map of Middle-earth in front of me at all times, and they're quite beholden to the map even as they expound upon threads that aren't from the book.

Gandalf mentioned that the Trolls had come down from the Ettenmoors, and the high fells above Rhudaur likely are right where the Ettenmoor peaks merge with the Misty Mountains ... just south of Gundabad. All in these areas constituted Angmar.

P.J. seems to be linking in a straight line bad things like Trolls and Orcs wandering the borders near the Shire with the Nazgul revival.


The Grey Elf
Grey Havens


Jul 2 2013, 1:17pm


Views: 788
Agree. I got that impression as well.

And I like that idea better than an encampment of tents. Judging from the opening scenes in AUJ, Dale is close enough to Erebor for it to be the logical place for Laketown and the elves to bide.


The Grey Elf
Grey Havens


Jul 2 2013, 1:20pm


Views: 795
I know. Hopefully

the next trailer or vlog will feature MF or Bilbo more prominently.


AncalagontheBlack
Rohan

Jul 2 2013, 1:32pm


Views: 797
Next blog

I think the next blog will be a little sad. I imagine a portion of it will encompass the last day of the various actors shoot. I think we will probably get a lot of Ian McKellan, Martin Freeman, and Richard Armitage because of their level of involvement.


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 2 2013, 2:11pm


Views: 790
So

the rumours were true.Unimpressed

Thought the vblog was underwhelming, a lot of filler, only until half of the video, do i see anything that pariticularly stands out. Despite the first few shots in the beginning.

Since we didnt see BOFA, gandalf fighting orcs in dale, is DOS stuff. How is this possible? Will Gandalf be there with the dwarves when they enter the mountain?

Thranduil is impressively sharp and regal.

Bilbo's out, again.

A lot of green screen. Unsure

We certainly see gandalf following Thrain....two scenes, two flashbacks? A bit too much, no?

The lack of howard shores music doesnt give it that sweet feeling, instead we get the trailer music. Meh.

Dwarves training was dumb and a waste of time but i guess its nonsense fun. Its just stuff i skip while i re watch this video.

Gandalf meeting Tauriel Shocked The horror!

Radagast's poo, now that i want for christmas.


What is dwalin smashing at? A well in erebor?

Vous commencez à m'ennuyer avec le port!!!

(This post was edited by Lusitano on Jul 2 2013, 2:13pm)


Bombadil
Half-elven


Jul 2 2013, 2:45pm


Views: 797
A FEW Things?

First Shot after PJ apologizes about CCSD..
1. Between Gandalf and Radagast is a
Mountain Troll turned to stone.(Maybe just a Statue?)

2. Thrandruil has Cuts on his Face in one shot?

3. Seems Tauriel has a private meeting with her King.

4. Bard running through Laketown implies they are under Attack?
Dropping down a rope Escape Hatch?

5. We see the Webs, but it is gunna be a SCARY Thrill
to see HOW they get Trussed up
...Hundreds of Little spiders Streaming all over them, (in 3D)
is gunna be Really Creepy with Howard's Music..

THIS is an image Bomby has been avoiding...in my mind.
Shelob TIMES 13?


Nira
Lorien


Jul 2 2013, 3:14pm


Views: 733
MF has said...

...(I think in an interview? I forgot where exactly) that he doesn't like participating in these extra behind-the-scenes type of projects. I'm pretty sure we aren't seeing more Bilbo in the vlogs because MF just isn't as comfortable with being filmed in that way & the crew is respecting that. If I can find the video where he said this, I'll post a link.

"Why, to think of it, we're in the same tale still! It's going on. Don't the great tales never end?" -Samwise


Noria
Gondor

Jul 2 2013, 3:19pm


Views: 779
More good stuff!

I enjoyed the videolog though it seemed short, maybe because PJ took up almost two minutes with his explanation about Comic-Con. Perhaps there are people who are upset about it?

This episode was about pickups so there would naturally be a lot of green screen. If I recall correctly almost all the pickups for LotR were done on sets or the back lot with green screen.

It seems to me likely that most of Martin Freeman’s major stuff was shot during principal photography and some of the pickups could be fleshing out other parts of the story as needed now that we’re getting three films. Obviously Freeman’s presence was still required. We know that PJ really makes his films in the editing room and always needs pickups.

Bard and Bain look good.

Thranduil looks fabulous. These movies have made me interested in the character for the first time.

I loved the dwarvicising segment, particularly Adam Brown and the colored headbands, the fat suits, the Orc. It was just so entrancingly silly! These guys always seem to be having fun though no doubt we just never see the all too human hissy fits etc. One thing I like about the LotR and Hobbit productions is that while everyone seems to work hard, they don’t take it all too seriously.

I didn’t notice the scene with Tauriel and Kili and had to go back and look. All we know is that they seem to be rehearsing together and I won’t worry about it until I see it on the screen.

Trailer, Empire article and videolog – it all looks good to me.


Old Toby
Grey Havens


Jul 2 2013, 3:32pm


Views: 714
Seriously? You're IN IT??!!

Fantastic!!! Please tell us where you are!! And congratulations!! We're all so envious you could participate, no matter how small the part!

"Age is always advancing and I'm fairly sure it's up to no good." Harry Dresden (Jim Butcher)


dernwyn
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 2 2013, 4:08pm


Views: 694
As is

Lissuin - and I think one other Board member also, all as extras.

Which, in these movies, is "extra-special". Cool

I'm on the watch for a Laketown woman, in the front row of a crowd, crying...Lissuin couldn't tell us more (and she couldn't say "Laketown", but that's the assumption).

I'm looking forward to the day that their "gag orders" have ended, and they can start telling us all about their experiences! Smile


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"I desired dragons with a profound desire"






Brethil
Half-elven


Jul 2 2013, 4:36pm


Views: 658
Agreed Dernwyn!


In Reply To
Lissuin - and I think one other Board member also, all as extras.
Which, in these movies, is "extra-special". Cool

I'm on the watch for a Laketown woman, in the front row of a crowd, crying...Lissuin couldn't tell us more (and she couldn't say "Laketown", but that's the assumption).
I'm looking forward to the day that their "gag orders" have ended, and they can start telling us all about their experiences! Smile




That will be some wonderful takes to share! Good for all who are there firsthand!

Coming soon!- The first TORn Amateur Symposium, starts Sunday 21st July in the Reading Room. Closing date for essay submission Sunday 14th July, but even if you don't submit, join us for some interesting discussion on some different and personal ways of looking at Tolkien's work.


NoelGallagher
Rohan


Jul 2 2013, 5:25pm


Views: 641
concerning your first point...


In Reply To
First Shot after PJ apologizes about CCSD..
1. Between Gandalf and Radagast is a
Mountain Troll turned to stone.(Maybe just a Statue?)

2. Thrandruil has Cuts on his Face in one shot?

3. Seems Tauriel has a private meeting with her King.

4. Bard running through Laketown implies they are under Attack?
Dropping down a rope Escape Hatch?

5. We see the Webs, but it is gunna be a SCARY Thrill
to see HOW they get Trussed up
...Hundreds of Little spiders Streaming all over them, (in 3D)
is gunna be Really Creepy with Howard's Music..

THIS is an image Bomby has been avoiding...in my mind.
Shelob TIMES 13?


that would mean the Fells are really situated west of the MM..so travelling all the way back over them ? ok..


Bombadil
Half-elven


Jul 2 2013, 5:42pm


Views: 605
You LUCKY Kiwi's!

Part of Bomby would Have Loved to have had the Opportunity,
But it's Better to Hear from youGuys how it went down.

That is gunna be sooo Much Fun!
to read about your Adventures on SET!

Ultimately, it's too spoiler for my Taste
to have helped.
Bomby WANTS to Believe this Fantasy...


LordGawain
Rivendell

Jul 2 2013, 6:07pm


Views: 600
personally

I fear it's Beorn.


Metal Slug
Rivendell

Jul 2 2013, 7:26pm


Views: 539
Whats that all about? Seems mechanical.


In Reply To

What is dwalin smashing at? A well in erebor?

I was wondering the same thing. http://i932.photobucket.com/...mage_zps8c2f80f8.jpg theres a flash when he hits it.


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 2 2013, 7:49pm


Views: 512
Looks like

a well, or some fundiary machine.

Vous commencez à m'ennuyer avec le port!!!


Skaan
Lorien


Jul 2 2013, 8:02pm


Views: 501
Looks like some kind of firing device

Looks a bit like a ballista to me. Maybe this is the infernal artillery they've been talking about?


Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 2 2013, 11:22pm


Views: 426
Could be...

it almost sounded to me like he was trying for an Irish accent, but "Bard Marley" at least makes some kind of sense. Smile

Silverlode

"Dark is the water of Kheled-zâram, and cold are the springs of Kibil-nâla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dûm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone."



Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Jul 2 2013, 11:38pm


Views: 417
Yep

He's not a big fan of participating in these or in the promo stuff for the film (which he has to do by contract). He said that in several interviews. He said for the Vblogs some times they would come by and coax him out of his trailer but that he really doesn't like doing them. Same with the press interviews when the films premiere. He's just a homebody type guy that isn't all that comfortable with doing interviews and such. He has a tendency to swear for one thing, which is tough in interview situations.

This is one reason I don't think we'll see him at a TORN oscar party. I would hope I'm wrong, but I don't see him doing it to be honest. It's really too bad because MF is a terrific actor and seems like a fun guy. I wish he felt more comfortable doing the stuff but he clearly doesn't and PJ and the crew are respecting that as much as they can I think.

Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/13


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 3 2013, 1:26am


Views: 384
Like many actors

they are shy sometimes.

More than we would assume.

Vous commencez à m'ennuyer avec le port!!!


Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Jul 3 2013, 1:32am


Views: 372
Yup

and he loss of their privacy is a huge sacrifice I think many, including myself, just don't fully understand. Especially when they become very sought after internationally it's very difficult for them to get private or 'down time' so I can totally get where they come from. You're right we assume because they are in the public persona so much they must like the spotlight but honestly many just want to be left alone. I know Freeman has mentioned that in more than one intervew: That he likes nothing more than to be a homebody, daddy to his kids and have some private time. That is one think they sacrifice that I completely respect.

Living in CA I see it all the time down in LA where idiotic fans go up to them and bug them in a private setting whether it's in the park with their kids, at a restaurant, on the street. I just leave them alone. I just don't like to violate that. I get it if it's a public event but on personal time, I leave them be and I wish others did as well.

Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/13


Brethil
Half-elven


Jul 3 2013, 1:45am


Views: 368
Difficult in a public profession


In Reply To
and he loss of their privacy is a huge sacrifice I think many, including myself, just don't fully understand. Especially when they become very sought after internationally it's very difficult for them to get private or 'down time' so I can totally get where they come from. You're right we assume because they are in the public persona so much they must like the spotlight but honestly many just want to be left alone. I know Freeman has mentioned that in more than one intervew: That he likes nothing more than to be a homebody, daddy to his kids and have some private time. That is one think they sacrifice that I completely respect.

Living in CA I see it all the time down in LA where idiotic fans go up to them and bug them in a private setting whether it's in the park with their kids, at a restaurant, on the street. I just leave them alone. I just don't like to violate that. I get it if it's a public event but on personal time, I leave them be and I wish others did as well.




Public eye is critical to their success - but it is unfair to presume that because one is a performer one abdicates all personal privacy rights. With our media saturated culture though it is a difficult line to walk.

Coming soon!- The first TORn Amateur Symposium, starts Sunday 21st July in the Reading Room. Closing date for essay submission Sunday 14th July, but even if you don't submit, join us for some interesting discussion on some different and personal ways of looking at Tolkien's work.







Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Jul 3 2013, 3:07am


Views: 337
Indeed

I think MF once said that he gets it that the public stuff he has to do, but the private stuff should be private and people shouldn't bug him and his family. I agree with that. People need to see the line and not cross it. These are people with lives and families and too much media all the time means that line gets crossed more often than not I'm afraid. So I get it that they need down time. I just wish everyone would take a step back and realize that when they see them and just enjoy from a distance and not go running up for an autograph when they're in the middle of dinner with their family. God I would never do that and I have seen so many people do that over the years it just bugs me.

Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/13


totoro
Lorien

Jul 3 2013, 3:27am


Views: 350
Awesome

As usual.


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jul 3 2013, 5:21pm


Views: 279
Yeah, I rewatched it.

He did say horse, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I'd kind of like it to be an elk simply to tie in with the prologue so that seems less random.

"...not till now have I understood the tale of your people and their fall.
As wicked fools I scorned them, but I pity them at last.
For if this is indeed, as the Eldar say, the gift of the One to Men,
it is bitter to receive." -Arwen Undómiel




Ardamírë
Valinor


Jul 3 2013, 5:39pm


Views: 276
I'm not sure

I didn't notice that. Maybe he's some sort of Orc that will be CGI later on?

"...not till now have I understood the tale of your people and their fall.
As wicked fools I scorned them, but I pity them at last.
For if this is indeed, as the Eldar say, the gift of the One to Men,
it is bitter to receive." -Arwen Undómiel




Ardamírë
Valinor


Jul 3 2013, 5:39pm


Views: 271
That seems most likely!! //

 

"...not till now have I understood the tale of your people and their fall.
As wicked fools I scorned them, but I pity them at last.
For if this is indeed, as the Eldar say, the gift of the One to Men,
it is bitter to receive." -Arwen Undómiel




Dwarvenfury
Lorien

Jul 5 2013, 12:04am


Views: 213
Wait...................

What if the BoFA fighting in the streets of Dale isn't indicative of the
approximate scale of the battle, but is merely one phase of the battle? Wink


RhodeCamelot
The Shire


Jul 5 2013, 9:29am


Views: 197
I THOUGHT BEN WOULD APPEAR IN THIS VLOG :\

Unsure I WAS HOPING SO BADLY MAN BUT OKAY apart from that there's plenty of footage to ponder over! Laketown and Dale look awesome and the soundtrack played towards the end of the video (similar or same to the one played in the trailer) sounded quite different from what's in the AUJ soundtrack. Really excited for the soundtrack for this movie i bet it'll be off the charts awesome (as usual)!!!! \o/
They had better show Benedict in the next vlog doing performance capture or being interviewed or something anything whatever okay PLS PLS PLS PLS PLSSSS LaughLaughLaugh

#dftba

Excuse me, sorry to interrupt but what should i do with my plate?


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Jul 26 2013, 11:12pm


Views: 119
*squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!* :D *geeky hand clapping* //

 


4th draft of TH:AUJ Geeky Observation List - May 1, 2013



sample

"There is more in you of good than you know, child of the kindly West."

I'm SO HAPPY these new films take me back to that magical world!!



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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Jul 26 2013, 11:13pm


Views: 119
Fabulous!!! Thank you so much!!! :D //

 


4th draft of TH:AUJ Geeky Observation List - May 1, 2013



sample

"There is more in you of good than you know, child of the kindly West."

I'm SO HAPPY these new films take me back to that magical world!!



TIME Google Calendar
TORn's Geeky Observations Lists (updated soon)