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Do you believe in Ghosts?


Poll: Do you believe in Ghosts?
Yes, I do. 21 / 29%
I am not sure but I am open to this. 19 / 26%
Absolutely not! 30 / 42%
I like everything paranormal 2 / 3%
72 total votes
 

Sam20
Lorien

May 23 2013, 9:22pm


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Do you believe in Ghosts?

Here's an unusual poll, do you believe in Ghosts?

You can can just vote but you can elaborate your thoughts as well and that would be interesting.

If possible try to explain why and if you had any paranormal experience feel free to share them.

If not, you can can gives your reasons.


(This post was edited by sam90 on May 23 2013, 9:22pm)


Elizabeth
Half-elven


May 23 2013, 10:13pm


Views: 879
Depends on how you define ghosts.

I do not believe that ghosts with ectoplasm forms and personalities hang around old houses and castles. But there have many credible reports of people sensing something from a loved one who is dying or in peril, in circumstances in which they could not have known, and I believe some communication is possible.








Darkstone
Immortal


May 24 2013, 1:10am


Views: 856
Yep

Used to sense and occasionally see my dear departed first wife around the house. Haven't seen her since I remarried.

And our long dead cat Thor still plays around the house. He's always popping up in my peripheral vision, moving and playing with his quite distinct mannerisms.

And on a darker note, I've occasionally served on search teams. Some colleagues swear they were somehow called to a particular spot during a search. For example, one guy swore he was led to a hidden location by the sound of a woman's voice. And he did indeed find a missing mother and her baby. The baby was hungry and cold, but alive. The mother had obviously been dead for a while.

Then there's more than few stories told after midnight around a fire over hot coffee on a cold night at a emergency command site, where a guy tells of being saved by the voice of a long-departed loved one telling him or her to move, and they somehow avoid a wreck, a fall, or a bullet by the slimmest of margins.

Thor just sauntered into my study closet.....

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dernwyn
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May 24 2013, 3:40am


Views: 825
Pets tend to hang around.

A friend of mine would find paw-prints going across the cover of her bed, after her beloved cat passed on.

My eldest had interesting incidents with ghosts in various flats when she was studying in Edinburgh. Her favorite was once when she walked into her room in time to see a ghost-kitten scamper out of one wall and across into the opposite. Another time a hound latched on to her, would go with her at times when she went out, and moved to another flat with her. She was amused by friends who would sleep over on the couch, and in the morning ask about the dog they'd seen during the night. The animals she came in contact with were nice; it was the people-ghosts who would be crabby and mischievous, and the reason she ended up moving until she got a recently-built flat with no ghosts.

That was nice of your wife to keep an eye on you until she knew you were in good hands again! One of my friends felt her first husband smiling over her shoulder when she met the guy who she would next marry. They just want to make sure we're okay. Heart


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Magpie
Immortal


May 24 2013, 4:46am


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The best answer for me would be: I believe in something

I'm not quite sure they're ghosts. My father and my dog (to whom I was greatly attached and who died suddenly in great pain) came to me in dreams and helped me let them go. I've never thought of them as ghosts or spirits. But then, my beliefs around what is beyond our mortal life is not guided by organized religions. So I think I just have my own take on it that doesn't really include ghosts and spirits.

My grandmother and my aunt had stories about seeing people after they had passed.

A lot of things happen to me that don't seem coincidental or completely serendipitous but not around spirits.

But something happened when my mother passed. She had been ill for awhile and in and out of the hospital and then into a nursing home, which she hated. And then she just kind of gave up and she got very, very ill and was in a lot of pain and she entered a hospice where she was heavily medicated.

When my sister called to tell me my mother passed away, this is how she told it. She was staying in the hospice room with her, sleeping on a little couch/bed. Her husband had gone back to my mom's house to sleep. The staff came in around 5 in the morning and turned mom... maybe changed some dressings. My sister woke for that and then fell back asleep. Then around 6 she heard someone call "Carol" in a quiet, non-urgent voice - the sort of quiet voice one uses to wake someone up - and she woke up. She checked Mom and she had passed. There was no one else in the room.

That's just how she told it. She never stopped once to wonder about the voice that called to her. I shared this story with a co-worker who had recently lost her grandmother and her reaction was it was my mother who had called my sister.

But I said my first reaction, in fact, it's my calm and certain belief, is that someone else from beyond called her. I had a strong sense of someone, maybe more than one person, waiting for Mom and they had called out to my sister to let her know that Mom was had left us and was now with them. And it was okay.


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DanielLB
Immortal


May 24 2013, 8:32am


Views: 833
No, but have I seen one?

Even though I have seen something paranormal, I don't believe in the traditional appearance of a ghost - i.e a white transparent being that can go through walls, pick up objects etc. I think it ultimately comes down to my viewpoint of reality - I don't believe in a God because of my scientific leanings. Likewise, I don't believe in ghosts because I don't think they can physically exist (what happens when it's windy? Why don't they blow away?). Plus, there has been no proof of their existence (there are terrible shows on TV that are clearly set-up).

But then again, I have seen something. Years and years ago, when my sister and I were kids, we were playing hide and seek in the house. It was her turn to hide, and my turn to seek. Our living room had two sofas/couches - one against a wall, the other in the middle of the room facing the TV (so as you walked in to the room, you saw the back of this sofa). I walked into the living room, and thought I saw my sister (her head was poking above the sofa) on the sofa in the middle of the room. I said that I could see her once or twice, but she didn't move. Then, the head (which had no face, just scalp and hair) got up (to the same height as my sister was), walked straight past me and out of the room. Was it a ghost or was it my brain playing tricks (a hallucination, or was I just tired?) I'll never forget that.

And that's not the only ghostly appearance in that house. Glasses use to smash by themselves and my Mum woke up one night to someone peering over her.

Was the house haunted, or just a different series of random events? I really don't know.


dik-dik
Lorien


May 24 2013, 8:42am


Views: 818
Re: Do you believe in Ghosts?

Voted 'Yes'. And also in other paranormal stuff. I am grateful I've never seen one though, I'm a rather fearful person so that would give me nightmares for weeks. Blush

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imin
Valinor


May 24 2013, 9:49am


Views: 844
No

Don't believe they exist at all.

Never had any paranormal activity happen around me and from what i have heard of other people's stories or seen on TV shows i just don't buy it. If they were real i feel like we would have some more solid proof than - i could see, feel, hear it.

I do like ghost stories and movies though, i think they are entertaining - obviously would be more scary if i actually believed they existed which would be good as i like getting scared from a horror movie, lol.

Don't mind if people do believe or not, or are unsure for me i just don't believe in them any more than i do faeries or flying spaghetti monster. Smile

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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


May 24 2013, 1:15pm


Views: 809
Let's just say...

Several members of my family had a frightening experience with a sťance, while my wife says she grew up in a haunted house.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Radagast-Aiwendil
Gondor


May 24 2013, 3:12pm


Views: 858
"Ye best start believin' in ghost threads...you're on one!"

Sorry I love Pirates of the Caribbean so much that I couldn't resist.

I myself have never seen a "ghost" as of yet, although there are a few people among my friends and in my family who say they have seen a loved one in a ghost-like form in front of their eyes.

While I'm not entirely convinced about ghosts, I'm not of the opinion that they don't exist at all. As I said, I've yet to meet one.

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dernwyn
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May 24 2013, 8:57pm


Views: 814
Hey Raddy...

...you do realize, that the first quote in your footer was not said by Tolkien, but was taken from the Ralph Bakshi LotR movie poster? Shocked


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Radagast-Aiwendil
Gondor


May 24 2013, 9:10pm


Views: 782
I failed to realize that...

I took it from somewhere that attributed it to Tolkien and thought my research had been adequate. Thanks for letting me know Wink

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Donry
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May 24 2013, 11:02pm


Views: 777
BOO!

Yep.

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dernwyn
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May 25 2013, 2:51am


Views: 770
It's one of those quotes

which can be found in several places, attributed to him!

This one, we know where it actually came from. There's another one which is not his, but it's a mystery what its actual source is: "Little by little, one travels far".


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CuriousG
Half-elven


May 25 2013, 5:03am


Views: 751
Ghosts, Zeus, and lightning

I personally have encountered a few ghost-like things that can't be explained, and I know other rational, skeptical people who have the same ambivalence about their experiences: something "weird" definitely happened (a glass smashed in front of you is an observable phenomenon), but they're not sure what's behind it.

My analogy is about ancient people and lightning. Lightning was big, scary, observable, and inexplicable. People tried to explain it, and since it came from the sky, and gods live in the sky, it must be from Zeus or God or whoever you believe in. Fast forward to the present, and we know it's more about ionization than divine anger. But the change in explanation doesn't change the observation. Lightning exists and is real. People couldn't explain it very well in the past, and now they can. So in the future, I am sure someone will be able to explain ghosts. They'll use words we don't have yet (ionization is a modern word), so we can't predict what they'll say, but they'll figure it out, and they'll see the same things we see but with better understanding.

Great poll question, Sam!


grammaboodawg
Immortal


May 25 2013, 5:04am


Views: 760
I've had more than a few experiences.

My Dad passed in 1977 at the age of 59... and all of us in the family have known of him being around. Things lost suddenly appearing; very vivid dreams; etc.

There have been not-very-nice encounters that support the paranormal. I've even seen ufo's twice (along with someone else who saw them, too). So yeah... as Frodo says, "We are not alone."



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Veridandir
Rivendell


May 25 2013, 1:14pm


Views: 739
No, as there is no evidence supporting its existence.

But if one day a ghost appeared right in front of me, I would believe!


elaen32
Gondor


May 25 2013, 7:10pm


Views: 773
Yes

but like Elizabeth, it depends on the definition of the word "ghost". Ghosts as white figures drifting around and through walls, occasionally wailing- no I don't believe that. But I have seen and heard too many things that I don't feel can be explained by rational scientific thinking (and I am a scientist by education)- well not as yet anyway. So yes- I do believe that there are phenomena which are "paranormal" ie they are outside of our current understanding and knowledge. Whether we will one day have an explanation for these things, I don't know. Science and human knowledge has made great strides, but I think it is arrogant to assume that we can explain everything.

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zarabia
Tol Eressea


May 26 2013, 8:08am


Views: 722
In many cases I'm sceptical, but I'm open to the possibility of something we don't yet understand

So, yes, I believe in something. I do believe that many so called paranormal experiences have rational, mundane explanations, which, combined with hallucinations, over-active imaginations, seemingly ubiquitous swamp gas, and people just makiní stuff up, likely make up the majority of ghost stories. But there are too many reasonable, reliable people who have experienced ďsomethingĒ to dismiss the paranormal altogether. Like others have said, I believe that there are phenomena that we just arenít equipped to explain yet. Some theoretical physicists say that we live in a multi-verse, and that the other universes may not be out there somewhere, but right in front of us. We canít see them because they are in a different dimension. So, what if what we experience as a ghost is a being from another universe bleeding through a weak area in the fabric of the universe? Iím just spit-balling here, Iím not saying this is what I actually believe, just an idea. SmileTongue

Anyway, I have a ghost story. More than likely itís one of those with a mundane explanation, but it has confounded me for years: My sister and I were walking along the medieval wall around the city of York. Normally the wall is pretty crowded with tourists, but this particular section was empty except for the two of us. We were strolling along taking in the surrounding beauty when I heard fast approaching footsteps. I didnít want to feel rushed so when we came to a turret where the walkway widens, I pulled my sister aside to let this person passÖthere was no one there. Hmmm, okay, I guessed I had just been hearing our footsteps echoing off the distant buildings. Off we went again. We seemed to have the wall to ourselves again, then distant footsteps getting closer and closer. Somebody was quickly overtaking us. Again I stepped aside at the next turret, fully expecting to see someone in a hurryÖagain there was no one there. We set off again with me listening carefully for footfalls. I heard the echo of our steps bouncing off the buildings, but nothing else. Then, after about a minute, distant footsteps. This time I was sure it was another tourist, I had accounted for the echoes, so this had to be a person. I could even feel the impatience of this person as he/she quickly gained on us. I pulled my sister aside to let this rude person pass. No one! And thereís no place to hide along those walls. Was it some trick of sound? Probably, but I donít know how it could sound like it was in the distance and then get closer and louder in addition to the natural echoes we heard.

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zarabia
Tol Eressea


May 26 2013, 8:12am


Views: 705
I like that analogy //

 

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zarabia
Tol Eressea


May 26 2013, 8:13am


Views: 718
LOL! //

 

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elaen32
Gondor


May 26 2013, 10:44am


Views: 739
Well, York has a reputation for being very haunted

But that may just relate to the fact that it's an ancient city with a lot of history. But that does sound a bit weird Zarabia! On a fun note, did you go on any of the York Ghost Walks? Total hocum, but good fun! I love York, I go to an annual conference there and always find something new to look at

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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


May 26 2013, 2:47pm


Views: 688
While I haven't, personally, seen a ghost...

I did witness what some would call a UFO phenomenon; or it might have been ball lightning (if ball lightning can last for 20 minutes to a half-hour). What I say was a bright, blue-white light hanging motionless in the sky several miles away for many minutes and then suddenly zooming away at (very) high speed.

Anyone experienced anything similar?

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Semper Fi
Rohan

May 26 2013, 3:43pm


Views: 692
Cats do, not sure about other animals

But cat thing is 100% true. When my two cats died, not at the same time but years apart, each time right before their passing I dreamed of them glowing in white light.

Also, they tend to get reborn. You`ll recognie your reborn cat if you eevr run into him/her in an instant.


dernwyn
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May 26 2013, 5:31pm


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That must have freaked you out a bit

the second time you had that dream - knowing what was going to happen!

My first cat was with me for nearly 17 years before he had a stroke, and I had to have him put to sleep. I can't remember exactly how many days or weeks after that it was, that I was driving by the vets' and got a "nudge" to go inside, where I found that someone had recently brought to them a litter of kittens they'd found near a dumpster. I went home and got my 3 kids, and we all went back to select a new cat from among them. We were playing with them when the loudest purr I'd ever heard filled the room. My eldest was cradling that one on his back in her arms, rubbing his tummy - and he was the one who looked most like my first cat. We brought him home, of course. I don't know if it was my first cat reborn, but we all believed he'd been "sent" to us.


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Semper Fi
Rohan

May 26 2013, 6:07pm


Views: 328
You are so right!

I was devastated when I woke up (I think I woke up immeduately knowing what had happened).

And your example is exactly the reborn thing. They don`t say cats have 9 lives for nothing.


Escapist
Gondor


May 26 2013, 6:26pm


Views: 340
I don't have any solid theories or beliefs.

I entertain many notions about what "could be" without feeling the need to decide on anything ... most of the time, anyway. I can remember some strange experiences, however. Many of them involved dreams or intuitions or what could likely be imagination - but they still made me wonder. I will just share the few details that I find hard to explain by any natural causes.

My building had a fire and the source came from the unit right below mine. All the units around mine had fire damage except mine. I can only guess why or how. For one, I had suspicions that the unit was haunted from when I first moved in because of flickering lights that come on and off randomly - at least when I first moved in they did - it kind of dissipated over time. Then I met someone who talked about things like psychic warfare and circles of protection and I tried one just to see. They talked about vortices later when I mentioned how pictures on my wall had started falling down randomly and breaking. Was it ghostly protection? Was it a vortex? Was it just the ventillation that made my unit totally untouched by fire damage at the top and center of a building fire? I couldn't tell you.

I was in the car and the driver (and all the rest of us) were getting quite roudy and silly in a dangerous and not good way - swerving back and forth down the road with no seatbelts and the passenger seat person hanging out their window. The car rolled and in an instant (I had been daydreaming - something I do very nearly constantly) the figure (who happened to be Elrond btw) I had been talking to in the daydream suddenly shouted "Duck!" and I did - causing me to roll. So then I ended up under the passenger side guy who was hanging over me by his seatbelt - I was at his feat and had cleared all the dashboard and him and the centerpiece between driver and passenger and the shifter and all of it and had done a flip in mid-air - something I do not know how to do.

My sister and her friends were using the Oija board when we were very young grade-school age kiddos. I had never used it before and as I was walking up the steps, something literally yanked me by my shirt-collar down a step or two (without me falling). I shrugged it off (I laugh now at the thought of slipping backwards two steps without falling - could I really have done that?) and kept going only to find that when my sister and her friends asked "the spirits" if I could join in the fun that the answer was "no".

I was daydreaming again (I do this almost constantly still) - this time much older. In the daydream I was arguing with the person about whether or not they were real / had a body. Suddenly I fell while just walking on pavement. It felt like I had been picked up and "dropped". The scars afterward shifted shape slightly as they healed. At first it looked like a triforce (from Zelda) and then it looked like four hearts and then two and then one.

My cousin says that she caught my sister and I having a dream-conversation in our sleep once when we were sleeping over at her house.

I once was stuck on a math problem and as I was walking to school, I saw the shape of the symbol I was mixing up a detail about in the tree branches and leaves. I immediately figured out what my mistake was.

There is a lot more! But the rest of it is far less concrete so I can explain it using purely psychology and the words "overactive imagination". Even that last one with "seeing things" in the trees could easily just be something psychological like some kind of rorschach effect. I really prefer to try to find some kind of explanation like this for things than to assume something about the existence of supernatural forces that I honestly do not claim to understand. I think I may have convinced myself that the reason my apartment had no damage was either because all the other tenants around me were taking advantage and making false claims (I was out of town when it happened) or because my door was somehow more tightly closed than the others. But my neighboor didn't seem to believe it when I told her my unit had no damage - either that or she had some reason to want me to put in a claim ... but what could it matter to her? The thing with the car could have just been my own subconscious coming through in a strange way and the thing with my sister could be just a matter of our dream-talking being randomly coincident and being able to "fit" with some interpretation and not necessarily a real conversation. Well - who knows anyway! If I don't have to decidedly decide anything then I simply won't. I am okay with just saying that I don't know.


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DanielLB
Immortal


May 26 2013, 8:59pm


Views: 358
There have been reports of ball lightning lasting up to half an hour

And causing significant damage. Was there thunder and lighting nearby? Though it's incredibly rare for it to last beyond a couple of seconds.

Whether it was ball lightning or a UFO, what a sight! Did you manage to get a picture?


zarabia
Tol Eressea


May 27 2013, 1:17am


Views: 322
Haha! Yes, we went on one of those tours :)

We had gone on one the previous evening. I would think that our experience on the wall was the result of the power of suggestion, but, as you said, the tour was total hocum and suggested very little. Laugh But it was an entertaining two hours and a fun way to see the city.

BTW, I'm so jealous! York is beautiful and has so many layers of history; I'd go back in a heartbeat. Smile

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Magpie
Immortal


May 27 2013, 2:42am


Views: 325
If you want a scientific possiblity

- I mean... before you go to power of suggestion -

It's possible it wasn't echoes of your footsteps but the sound of someone else's being bounced around in odd ways.

I used to visit a dome house and someone talking in a soft voice in the open area on the second floor -- which hung like a balcony above the main living area -- could be heard very clearly on the first floor as if they were sitting next to you. It was VERY spooky because you'd swear someone was sitting next to you talking quietly just to you but no one was there.

I've had this happen and heard of it happening in other environments however... they might need to be curved like the dome house.

And, for this to be an explanation in your case, you'd need to have someone in the area walking (running?) urgently and it doesn't sound like the sort of place they would do that.

This isn't to force a scientific explanation onto a possibly mystical one. I only offer it as an alternative to you making it up in your head! :-)

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May 27 2013, 2:02pm


Views: 304
Actually, it was a pretty clear night, as I recall...


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And causing significant damage. Was there thunder and lighting nearby? Though it's incredibly rare for it to last beyond a couple of seconds.

Whether it was ball lightning or a UFO, what a sight! Did you manage to get a picture?



No, I didn't get a picture (unfortunately). This happened years ago, when I was in my mid-teens, maybe the summer of 1975. I happened to wake up around three in the morning and saw the light out of my window, off to the west (towards Niagara Falls). I woke up my parents; my father refused to get up, but my mom came out with me to view the phenomenon outside until it disappeared. What finally happened is that the light dipped slightly to the right (north) and then sped off at an upwards angle, like a giant checkmark. Weird.

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Sam20
Lorien

May 28 2013, 12:13am


Views: 293
Ghosts

Wow thanks to all those who've shared their opinions and story. I didn't thought that this poll would have some success.

Just to be clear, By Ghost I meant entities,spirits,full body apparation, poltergeist ect. I've placed the whole range of phenomena under the term ''Ghost'' to simplify the question.


Thanks.


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AlassŽa Eruvande
Valinor


May 28 2013, 2:54pm


Views: 275
Interesting, Daniel,

that your scientific leanings, as you say, cause you not to believe in God. I'd say my scientific leanings have enhanced my belief in God. I find that difference fascinating. Smile



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AlassŽa Eruvande
Valinor


May 28 2013, 3:03pm


Views: 274
I've never seen a ghost.

But I do believe in them.

I have never felt a presence of any kind. Both my parents are dead; my father when I was nine, and my mother two years ago. My maternal grandparents died when I was a teenager. I suspect the lack of their presences here with me is owing to the fact that it was indeed their time to go. All their work was completed on earth and there was no reason to hang around. My brothers have never mentioned feeling any of their presences.

I also have never had a pet hang around after death, not even a cat. Our current cat does look like my last cat, but I wouldn't say one is the reincarnated version of the other.

But, just because I don't see them, doesn't mean they aren't there. Smile



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silneldor
Half-elven


May 28 2013, 3:55pm


Views: 276
And what was your mother putting in

all those baked cookies Daniel?Laugh

Joking aside, that is most curious. I always contend that we take for granted that we have the ability to take in everything with our senses and discern everything with our minds, but beyond our finitism lies not just that 'shell on the beach' but an ocean to tap into if we only evolve or learn to do so.

''Sam put his ragged orc-cloak under his master's head, and covered them both with the grey robe of Lorien; and as he did so his thoughts went out to that fair land, and to the Elves, and he hoped that the cloth woven by their hands might have some virtue to keep them hidden beyond all hope in this wilderness of fear...But their luck held, and for the rest of that day they met no living or moving thing; and when night fell they vanished into the darkess of Mordor.'' - - -rotk, chapter III

Faerie contains many things besides elves and fays and besides dwarfs, witches, trolls, giants or dragons; it holds the seas, the sun, the moon, the sky; and the earth, and all things that are one in it: tree and bird, water and stone, wine and bread, and ourselves, mortal men, when we are enchanted."
ó J.R.R. Tolkien














Fredeghar Wayfarer
Lorien


May 29 2013, 8:55am


Views: 283
Open-minded

I think, like Agent Fox Mulder, "I want to believe." I've never had a paranormal experience but I'm open-minded about it and have heard plenty of accounts from people that don't seem to be easily explained. The part of me that loves fantasy and the supernatural wants to believe and wants to have such an experience. But the other part of me that's a big sissy would probably be scared out of my mind if it ever happened.

Regardless, I do think that there's more to the universe than science can explain. Whether that means there is paranormal phenomena or just things science hasn't figured out yet, I don't know.


Annael
Immortal


May 30 2013, 2:12pm


Views: 247
'ghosts' might not be the right word

At least three of my loved ones who have passed over have made contact with me.

The way we imagine our lives is the way we are going to go on living our lives.

- James Hillman, Healing Fiction

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NARF and member of Deplorable Cultus since 1967


Annael
Immortal


May 30 2013, 2:18pm


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my dog hung around for years

my cat could see her; I couldn't, but I could feel she was there - usually either in her favorite corner under a table, or riding in the backseat of the car.

A friend of mine named Carla died a couple of years ago. The day after, another friend who had not heard the news was heading into church, saw Carla on the steps, greeted her, and got a nod in reply. Later, as I put the programme together for Carla's service, I kept hearing her tell me all this fuss was not necessary. I finally said out loud "Carla, I understand you think so, but WE need it!" and she quieted down.

The way we imagine our lives is the way we are going to go on living our lives.

- James Hillman, Healing Fiction

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NARF and member of Deplorable Cultus since 1967


Annael
Immortal


May 30 2013, 2:22pm


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someone once said

that we shouldn't be afraid of the dead; after all, they are our own loved ones.

All my experiences have been very positive; clearly the only "agenda" those who have visited me had was to help me move past grief.

The way we imagine our lives is the way we are going to go on living our lives.

- James Hillman, Healing Fiction

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NARF and member of Deplorable Cultus since 1967


Annael
Immortal


May 31 2013, 12:23am


Views: 244
I saw a UFO once

there were two people with me who saw it too. We watched it in silence, and after it had gone, eventually one of the others said "uh . . . did you guys see that?" We agreed that we had, and then we didn't talk about it again.

The way we imagine our lives is the way we are going to go on living our lives.

- James Hillman, Healing Fiction

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NARF and member of Deplorable Cultus since 1967


zarabia
Tol Eressea


May 31 2013, 7:52am


Views: 228
At first I thought, "Aha!"

I thought maybe you were on to something because I had it in my head that the walls of York were kind of parabolic shaped like other walled cities I've visited. But then I started trying to picture the scene and remembered the walls are made up of straight sections. I even looked on Google Earth to be sure. Yep, they are straight, no curves.

It was a good suggestion, though.Smile Once you suggested it, I remembered experiencing that effect in domes and at a science museum. Oh well...the mystery continues. LaughTongue

"The question isn't where, Constable, but when." - Inspector Spacetime


CuriousG
Half-elven


May 31 2013, 9:54pm


Views: 253
I know that feeling about not discussing it

Once while playing cards with friends in a room and having normal conversation, out of the corner came a loud, guttural (yes, vaguely scary) "No!" That was all. I thought I was going crazy hearing a voice from nowhere, then one of my friends turned to the corner and said, "Yes!" We all laughed nervously and never talked about it again. It was in a room in our house where other weird things happened, but there'd never been a voice before (of after).


Aunt Dora Baggins
Immortal


Jun 2 2013, 2:16am


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Hmmm, interesting. I've seen hallucinations twice.

Once when I climbed a long, hard mountain, and was very tired, as we were coming down I saw our little son sitting on a rock by the trail. I knew he was really at home with my mom, and the vision only lasted an instant. I wasn't spooked, because I'd read about waking dreams (can't remember the word for it) in a Psychology Today magazine.

The other time I saw Jack the Ripper coming down the hallway toward my bed. That was spooky, but because I'd read that article again I wasn't freaked out by it.


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"A Chance Meeting at Rivendell" and other stories

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Aunt Dora Baggins
Immortal


Jun 2 2013, 2:23am


Views: 207
"Believe" isn't the right word.

I like to imagine that my mom has made contact with me through synchronicity: after she died, I'd been feeling hideously guilty for choosing, at the urging of hospice, not to prolong her life artificially through IV hydration. So I sat by her bed and watched her die of thirst. Afterward I wept and said, "Mom, please send me a sign that what I did was OK."

A couple of nights later I was in the ER with my father-in-law, who had pneumonia (it was a tough time). My husband noticed both the nurses' nametags said "Nancy". I commented to one of them that that was my mom's name, and that we had scattered her ashes that day. She gave me a strange look and said, "What was her middle name?" I said "Anne." She said, "With an E?" I said, "Yes.' She said, "That's my middle name. Anne. With an E. And that other Nancy over there? Also Anne, with an E."

I burst into tears, and that young woman with my mom's name put her arms around me and held me to her heart and said, "Oh, it's OK, sweetie, it's OK." I sobbed, "I asked my mom for a sign that it was OK, and you just gave it to me." She said, "Yes, it really is OK".

Was that a "ghost"? Not in the conventional sense. But it sure felt like something. I don't know if I believe in signs from the dead, but I like to imagine that that was one.


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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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"A Chance Meeting at Rivendell" and other stories

leleni at hotmail dot com
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(This post was edited by Aunt Dora Baggins on Jun 2 2013, 2:23am)


Aunt Dora Baggins
Immortal


Jun 2 2013, 2:25am


Views: 221
After one of our cats died

my husband and I both felt him walking across our feet in bed, just as he used to in life.


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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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"A Chance Meeting at Rivendell" and other stories

leleni at hotmail dot com
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Faenoriel
Tol Eressea


Jun 3 2013, 12:52am


Views: 190
No

I do believe in afterlife, but that's it. People die and go where they go, and never come back.

But every word you say today
Gets twisted 'round some other way
And they'll hurt you if they think you've lied


FrogmortonJustice65
Lorien


Jun 4 2013, 3:18am


Views: 237
simple but thought provoking question

I don't pretend to know one way or the other whether ghosts exist.

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Soundchaser
The Shire

Jun 4 2013, 7:50pm


Views: 250
Well.....

as a Christian I believe in spirits, both good and evil. Angels and Demons. I don't think I should elaborate as to what I believe about the spirits of dead people, as I don't wish to offend anyone or "start" something. I will say that I have done a bit of studying, and for those fellow Christians (or anyone else interested) I would highly recommend the book, "The Testimony of Dr. Richard Eby". There also may be some of his testimony on video available on the net, just google his name (I saw an excellent video of a talk he gave at a Christian Businessmen's lunch in Chicago sometime back in the 80's). Dr. Eby died for the 3rd and final time on December 26th, 2002.
As an aside, his cousin coach Floyd Eby was the high school basketball coach at my high school (but not my contemporary) and a local pastor; he authored the book, "God Is My Co-Pilot".