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New video: The cast talk about Smaug!!


Apr 2 2013, 1:09pm

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New video: The cast talk about Smaug!!

Excited, anyone? Wink


Apr 2 2013, 2:10pm

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Excited? Yes, very.

Even though there's no new information on the video really, and to be perfectly honest of course they are going to say that Smaug will be amazing. I mean, what else would they say while promoting their work? But I'm pretty sure they've given Smaug a lot of thought and that PJ and the crew really are at least trying their hardest to make Smaug something special and understand that he is the main attraction of these movies. And I've yet to see any signs that he won't be anything short of remarkable.

And if the Riddles scene in AUJ is anything to go by, the confrontation between Bilbo and Smaug will be one of the highlights of the whole trilogy.

EDIT: I hope they are not hypeing him up too much. He'll still be a dragon (though hopefully the most cruesome dragon of them all), and it's not like we haven't seen dragons on film before. Might let some people down: "It's a dragon. I don't get what the fuss was all about..."

(This post was edited by Kullervo on Apr 2 2013, 2:19pm)


Apr 2 2013, 2:27pm

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Do you think Thorin will speak to the Dragon face to face.?

Because i don't think he does in the book, however i can see Smaug antagonising Thorin in the movie, just as Azog did.Wink
Perhaps Thorin goes into Smaugs lair, with Bilbo.Crazy

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(This post was edited by Thorins_apprentice on Apr 2 2013, 2:31pm)


Apr 2 2013, 2:37pm

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Andy says "150 feet long!"

That solves one Mystery.
Was watchig Godzilla with Matthew Brodrick the other day,
and Bomby thinks the crew
has studied every one of the Many Film Dragons produced over the years.
One poster here mentioned a cool separate him from all the rest.
He Changes color?
...Blue while sleeping, and then as he gets Engraged turns Red.
While content that he is smarter than Bilbo?, Gold...could be WayCool!

Hamfast of Gamwich

Apr 2 2013, 2:45pm

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Thorin/Smaug encounter

Smaug might talk to (or hurl abuse at) Thorin whilst attacking the Dwarves on the mountainside.


Apr 2 2013, 2:50pm

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Poor Thorin.He gets exasperated by everyone he meets.

Laugh But did you notice RA, more or less saying, he'll go face to face with Smaug.

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(This post was edited by Thorins_apprentice on Apr 2 2013, 2:56pm)

Tol Eressea

Apr 2 2013, 2:59pm

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No, he says face to face with Cumberbatch...

He says prior to that that he didn't get to meet Cumberbatch during the original shoot, and he's hoping to come face to face with Ben when they go back in May.

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(This post was edited by Eleniel on Apr 2 2013, 3:03pm)


Apr 2 2013, 3:02pm

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Oh ok.

Sorry, i guess i was reading too much into it then.Smile

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Apr 2 2013, 3:29pm

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RE: Quacking Troll

Thanks for that, Quacking Troll (love the name, by the way Laugh)

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Grey Havens

Apr 2 2013, 3:36pm

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Thanks for this tidbit

I didn't realize BC was also heading back to New Zealand along with MF. (I'm so excited that they are finally filming season three of Sherlock! It's about time!) So, more Smaug bits to do eh? (rubbing hands) Can't wait for the dragon! I think he's going to be spectacular in all ways! (And I noticed RA is growing the beard back!)

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The Grey Elf
Grey Havens

Apr 2 2013, 3:45pm

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Hamfast, I so love that idea!

Smaug really has very little dialog in the book but with a talent like Benedict Cumberbatch to exploit, why not expand his role just as others have been? Perhaps Smaug even recognizes Thorin's scent. (Heck, dogs can do that so the mightiest of dragons aught to be a master, LOL). You gotta admit, dwarves probably are on the fragrant side given their insistence on wearing multiple thick layers regardless of the season. Haven't these guys ever heard of resortwear? (Tries to picture Dwalin in a Hawaiian shirt and XL flip-flops.) Wink

The Grey Elf
Grey Havens

Apr 2 2013, 3:57pm

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A chameleon dragon

Rather partial to that idea, Bomby. Smaug flushes to a ruby red with rage. And then transforms to a beautiful blue when he's just chillin' on his mountain of stolen gold, polishing his smug and wicked dreams. (Wonder if he would have a violet phase ...?)

I just looooove dragons. That is, you know, from a good self-preservation distance away. Smile


Apr 2 2013, 4:28pm

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So, now we know for sure Smaug will be in TaBA ?

If Cumberbatch comes to shoot more footage this summer, since all the extra footage, if I understood correctly since now, are for TaBA, we know Smaug won't die in DoS ? Or am i missing something ?


Apr 2 2013, 4:57pm

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That is a good point. Do we know for a fact that all filming for DoS has been done, that there are no more pick ups left for that film? If so, then, yes, Smaug in TaBA is pretty much confirmed.


Apr 2 2013, 5:20pm

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could be pick-ups. Or...

The old (unjustified) rumour of Smaug being reanimated for TBo5A and then flying to Barad Dr and creating The Eye (I know, right??) could be true. (or not)


Apr 2 2013, 5:28pm

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150 feet long

It was hard to tell whether that was just a number he threw out there to put context to him describing mocap for Smaug or it is an actual number.


Apr 2 2013, 5:38pm

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I'm wondering about some kind of Thorin/Smaug encounter too,

even if it's only as Smaug flies around the mountainside. Thorin doesn't come across as particularly heroic in this part of the book, although you could say that it's just good common sense that he sends the burglar off down the tunnel to do the job they employed him for. But, perhaps PJ will give him a more heroic gloss.

Look what RA has to say about his method acting here. He begged them to show him a depiction of Smaug, apparently so that he can act in character. Does this mean he will see Smaug again and wants to capture the horror and the fear he felt when the dragon first came so that it will aid his performance? Surely this means that he knows there will be some kind of face to face and he needs an image to help his imagination.

Or, rather than a confrontation, does he want to show an intense fear when he reaches the mountain that the others don't feel because only he knows what they're up against? He says that only Thorin has seen the dragon (Balin? Dwalin?) and so, he needs, as an actor, to see the drawings to help him portray the fear.

Whatever. If they won't even show Ra, they're keeping things very close to their chest.

The Grey Elf
Grey Havens

Apr 2 2013, 5:46pm

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During the DOS Sneak Peak

I believe PJ mentioned that they were just finishing up the editing for the movie and would be starting on TABA soon.


Apr 2 2013, 5:52pm

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Some kind of confrontation on the mountainside could be good

And maybe even likely, especially if that will be the ending of the Bilbo and the Dwarves storyline in DoS, as I've read some speculate. But I really hope Bilbo goes to meet Smaug alone under the mountain. Not so much because that's how it is in the book, but because the fear and the impact of the dragon will be greater the more vulnerable Bilbo seems.

But we've seen footage of Bilbo running in the pile of gold, and we've not seen anyone else there, so I think it's safe to say he goes there alone. Or at least there's no indication otherwise.


Apr 2 2013, 5:53pm

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They said they were about to start film 3

but that may have meant "we've gone as far as we can with with what we have for film 2" so they may start editing film 3 until they can start shooting again.


Apr 2 2013, 6:11pm

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I have all faith in PJ

with Smaug and especially the confrontation of BIlbo and Smug, cause he said in the sneak peek that's one of the things he's most excited for everyone to see :D


Apr 2 2013, 6:17pm

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When I read the book,

Riddles in the Dark and Bilbo's confrontation with Smaug were the two stand-out chapters of the book, totally memorable. I'm sure the confrontation will be the highlight of the DoS which is why I don't think we will need the destruction of Lake Town until the third film.


Apr 2 2013, 7:10pm

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Those two chapters are almost like mirrors to eachothers. In both of them Bilbo is confronted by a dangerous enemy in a deep cave and in both of them the confrontation is pretty much won by words, and between the two we can see the growth Bilbo has gone through on the journey. In the riddles he is scared and lost in the dark and not really in control of the situation, and wins the riddles almost by accident or luck. But it helps prepare him for the greater and more cunning adversary that is Smaug. And that time Bilbo wins the battle of the words because of all the troubles he has managed to get through, listing them as titles he has earned : "I am the clue-finder, the web-cutter... I am the friend of bears and the guest of eagles. I am Ringwinner and Luckwearer; and I am Barrel-rider." So the past obstacles have now quite literally made him stronger and are the reason he is able to outsmart a great dragon.

I love how those two scenes play together, and I'm hoping it will be so in the movies as well. They already got the first part right, and I'm feeling quite optimistic that they'll nail the second part also.


Apr 2 2013, 7:47pm

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I'm not sure he outsmart the dragon, not in the book at least

remember how Smaug makes him doubt about his dwarves fellow ? Smaug also guesses one of his riddles, and he nearly grill him to death before he goes.
I think PJ&co will play on this aspect, even more than the book does, because I guess PJ and Phillipa have read the Children of Hrin and know how powerful the silvertongue of the dragons are powerful. It's just my guess though


Apr 2 2013, 7:53pm

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Yes, I'm not quite sure that he "wins" either.

When I read it as a child, I thought he had, but coming back to it in the last couple of years, I see the complications for the upcoming confrontation between men, elves and dwarves that Tolkien is setting up: it is Bilbo's reckless boasting that causes Smaug to lose his temper and sends him off to Lake Town.

Oleander Took

Apr 2 2013, 7:54pm

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DoS further filming

Was more or less confirmed by Martin Freeman not long ago, in an interview he mentioned they were going back to film more DoS and TABA

"There is nothing like looking, if you want to find something."


Apr 2 2013, 8:00pm

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Yes, perhapse...

...the frase "outsmarting the dragon" was a bit of an overstatement. But what I love about that scene is that the past troubles literally help Bilbo in confronting such an immense threat as Smaug. The way those two scenes mirror each others, and maybe even more importantly the ways they differ, are genius storytelling by Tolkien. And I do hope the movie plays on that.

Tol Eressea

Apr 2 2013, 10:15pm

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face to face eh?... hmmm //


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Apr 3 2013, 10:06pm

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I really wonder...

what design Smaug will will help the scene with Bilbo if he has the best design to fit that least his face...the body can be as dragonesque as can be!