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Sneak Peek at Desolation of Smaug with Peter Jackson


Feb 5 2013, 9:27pm

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Sneak Peek at Desolation of Smaug with Peter Jackson

Ok.....Didn't see that coming along with the blu-ray release, but :

The March 19th home entertainment release will be followed by an Extended Edition in time for the holidays.
In addition, Peter Jackson will host a live first look at “The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug,” the second film in The Hobbit Trilogy, on Sunday, March 24th at 3:00PM Eastern/Noon Pacific. Content will be streamed live and an edited version will be archived on the Trilogy¢s official website. Access to the live event will be limited to holders of an UltraViolet code available by purchasing “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey” Blu-ray Combo Pack, Blu-ray 3D Combo Pack or 2-Disc Special Edition DVD. Select digital retailers will issue access codes upon purchase of the film. Visit for more information.

It's on the main page!


All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost,
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.


Feb 5 2013, 9:28pm

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I know where I will be

on March 24th. I'll be making sure I'm there to see that sneek peak. :)

Tol Eressea

Feb 5 2013, 9:48pm

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I have a feeling this is for those in the US only

Hope I'm wrong!

Tol Eressea

Feb 5 2013, 9:51pm

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It stinks that you have to buy the bluray/dvd... be able to watch the full preview. Sorry WB but i hope it leaks online. Wink


Feb 5 2013, 9:52pm

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Tol Eressea

Feb 5 2013, 9:55pm

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Coz i'm not buying it.

I'm waiting for the SEE.

It's a bait tactic to get fans shell out bucks for a version they'll never touch again once the SEE comes out. At least i won't.

(This post was edited by Estel78 on Feb 5 2013, 9:56pm)


Feb 5 2013, 9:57pm

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That's my birthday!!

This is so meant to be Tongue


Feb 5 2013, 9:58pm

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I hope you are wrong too!


However, if that's the case,there will be an edited version on the and who knows, maybe some good lad will try to upload the event on youtube moments after it is shown...ShockedSly

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost,
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.


Feb 5 2013, 10:12pm

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I'm marking my calendar.

I'll buy the blue- ray combo, then I'll buy the EE, when it comes out. I would not be able to wait until November anyway.


Feb 5 2013, 10:31pm

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Me too

I'm waiting for the EE. I don't have a blue ray player anyway

"Why, to think of it, we're in the same tale still! It's going on. Don't the great tales never end?" -Samwise


Feb 5 2013, 10:41pm

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Woot! Called it!

I've been saying the preview wouldn't come out until after AUJ was on blu-ray (though I didn't think it would be this soon!).

Stinks terribly that one must buy the blu-ray to see it's full length, though. Like others, I'm waiting for EE. Looking forward to the short preview, though!

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


Feb 5 2013, 11:33pm

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I always buy the initial...

release so when the EE comes out, I don't have to worry about the kids not having a copy or if a friend wants to borrow it out of curiosity..

Tol Eressea

Feb 5 2013, 11:33pm

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You might be right

In Germany for instance it seems we have to wait till April for the bluray/dvd release.


Feb 5 2013, 11:40pm

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One thing this post proves is

money is tight all over the world and has been for the last two or three years if not longer.

During LOTR, the economy had expendable money. I think I might have five copies of each movie.

This leads back to the box office are is tight...which equals less viewers unless they're diehards like us...

People today still go to movies, just not as often..

Tol Eressea

Feb 5 2013, 11:53pm

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Only that grosses are becoming bigger and bigger.

We never had as many billion grossers as the last few years.


Feb 6 2013, 12:10am

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And we have a lot more

total bombs too. People spend there hard earned money where they want to...usually brand or name recognition wins out.

Lets face it, Super Hero's are big regardless of how bad the movie actually is. Middle-earth is pretty big too. The only way these franchises could fail is if they had Nicolas Cage in the movie. Cool

A billion is within reach with a loyal and dedicated fan base.


Feb 6 2013, 12:32am

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Saw it too, unlike

FOTR for various reasons I was only able to see AUJ one time in the theaters. However..... the big consolation prize is that I now have a Sony 55XBR8, Polk Audio Lsi15, Lsi f/x, Lsi C and a Monster THX subwoofer all powered by a Pioneer SC-37 in a cathedral ceiling Home Theater Cool. I plan on shaking the timbers and picking up on the special details only gleaned from multiple viewings!!!


Feb 6 2013, 12:33am

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That's so true

I certainly don't have the money to spend on a film I didn't like with special features I've already seen. I'll wait for the EE to spend my money.

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).

Tol Eressea

Feb 6 2013, 12:53am

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Sorry, any true home theater has a projector. ;) //



Feb 6 2013, 1:07am

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I was planning to buy the 3D Blu-ray anyway, so this is a great bonus!

However, as much as I love Gandalf, I am a bit disappointed that my future cover doesn't have Thorin on it. Maybe there can be a special edition EE release version that has his hair on it. Almost as good as those Argonath bookends.


Feb 6 2013, 1:27am

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*fist in the air* YES!

I'm getting *THWACKED* with a commercialism mace and I Don't Care! This is gonna be GREAT! :D

What's the difference if I pay for a movie ticket to see a trailer or have a perk with the 2-Disc Special Ed DVD I was planning on buying anyway :D

*rubs hands together* This is gonna be good!

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Feb 6 2013, 2:11am

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Do the extended editions come out after the entire trilogy has been in theaters or is it one by one?

Grey Havens

Feb 6 2013, 2:35am

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For LotR

The EEs each came out about a month before the opening of the next film. Which was nice, one could buy the EE and watch it and then go see the next film of the series in the theater.

Kristin Thompson

Feb 6 2013, 4:18am

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One word: inflation

If adjusted for inflation, The Fellowship of the Ring and The Two Towers would both have grossed over a billion worldwide.


Feb 6 2013, 6:17am

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Im confused

so you HAVE to buy the bluray-dvd combo to have access to the DOS sneak peek? Why a code to see an event? They're getting worst and worst in limiting fans to enjoy features from these films and all for money sakes.

But let's say you buy the darn combo. Is the access code gonna be in the packet? Do you have to ask for it where you buy it? It says "more information" on the "sneak" site but it's just a repetition of getting your code when you buy it. Unimpressed


Feb 6 2013, 7:40am

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What I find interesting is that

There will be a digital version of the movie available to download on 12 March. This could be the perfect option because I don't want to buy the theatrical DVD either. I hope the digital copies will have the code to see the DOS preview also.

“The world is not in your books and maps. It's out there!”

The Shire

Feb 6 2013, 9:15am

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Time will tell

In Reply To
In Germany for instance it seems we have to wait till April for the bluray/dvd release.

There is no official release date for Germany yet so I wouldn't worry too much - I doubt that we have to wait a month longer in Germany for the DVD.

I hope that international fans will also have a chance to watch the full sneak peek live! After all the Hobbit did very well in Germany money-wise so it would be a shame to exclude us Laugh


Feb 6 2013, 9:33am

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I much prefer the look of the flat panels to projectors.

But then, mine is a family/media room, not a true home theater.

Mine is a pretty large set, but what's the aspect ratio going to be? Since it's 3D, I'd love it to be 1.78 : 1 and fill my screen. But I know PJ films at 2.35. But the IMAX version should mean we ought to be able to get a picture with no black bars, yes? Don't hate on me, home theater enthusiasts--I love original aspect ratio, but I also love a big picture. Smile

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Feb 6 2013, 9:36am

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I'm glad this won't be till March 24th...

This will give me enough time to watch AUJ again first after buying the disc. I've only seen it once.

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Feb 6 2013, 12:08pm

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I suppose, all this junk means "USA/Canada only". I am not sure if Warner actually offers UltraViolet outside of these; plus, the European release date seems to be well AFTER March 19th.

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Tol Eressea

Feb 6 2013, 1:01pm

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It's more than one word

It's also growth of international markets and exchange rates and 3D.


Feb 6 2013, 1:25pm

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It'll be on Youtube

Personally I can wait till they release the three film box set. As soon as a movie hits the shelves all the best scenes pop up in clips on the internet anyway.


Feb 6 2013, 1:26pm

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yeah there is no need to worry

when it will be on Youtube within 2 minutes of its release anyway.


Feb 6 2013, 2:51pm

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They will release something, but not the exclusive content

A teaser trailer will be online probably at the same time with the preview, however I doubt it will be the same. They made it clear that there will be something exclusive for people with the code so I can't see the same thing being public immediately. Maybe a sneak peak of Smaug himself? Yes we can assume someone with access would record the whole deal but I'm not sure if anyone would be willing to do that, I wouldn't count on it. Then again, Comic-Con vlog was public after months so nothing stays hidden these days...

(This post was edited by utku on Feb 6 2013, 2:55pm)


Feb 6 2013, 3:05pm

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Yeah i was meaning

someone with the dvd will just upload the footage onto youtube or something. It always seems to happen.


Feb 6 2013, 3:31pm

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Hypocrisy beyond comprehension...

Its ironical that the story of Hobbit is so much about greed and how it corrupts souls. But compared to Thorin and Smaug, WB is one huge behemoth villain of cynical corporate greed. Frown

Disgusting! Mad


Feb 6 2013, 4:54pm

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Just the hair :)?

a special edition EE release version that has his hair on it



Feb 6 2013, 5:06pm

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I'll wait

For the Extended Edition next winter.


Feb 6 2013, 6:09pm

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UK release date on April 8, so no DOS live stream with PJ for us. Really annoying.

Going to be a big PASS on the DVD for me now, will wait for EE.

“I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.” - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

Tol Eressea

Feb 6 2013, 8:12pm

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I'm going to politely disagree...

considering the following. (All of which Warner Bros. had to put forth an investment in which to bring to us AND all of which we pay nothing for.)

1. We have free access to behind the scenes mini-documentaries throughout production. The VLogs. It should be noted that these are about as exclusive and inside as it gets... until after a movie is released and we see all of the in depth behind the scenes features.
2. We have free access to an official website with free music, games and downloads (something that a lot of franchise films charge access to under the guise of a club... i.e. Star Wars and Harry Potter)
3. The premiere of the film was streamed over the internet for free worldwide from New Zealand.
4. The premiere of Misty Mountains was streamed for free as was the entire Howard Shore Score for the movie.
4. The Mobile app was completely free
5. We will all have free access to any future production diaries, web downloads, apps for the remaining 2 movies.

This is a LIVE special event to help promote:

A. The home release of TH:AUJ (People are already paying for it)
B. Kickoff interest in the next installment

As someone who has worked on LIVE streaming events over the web, there is a significant cost incurred to feed the kind of audience that will be watching. How much of the bill should Warner Bros. foot for the fans?

There will be an edited version of this special event, for free, for those who chose to wait for the Extended Editions or simply opt out of, which means you will get to see at least a part of it... for free.

The only people this will disappoint are those who want the Extended Editions, which fans here, assume is the wider audience.

The fact that Warner Bros. and Peter Jackson have already confirmed that there will be an Extended Edition (which cost more anyway) means that they lose out on sales of the initial release... they didn't have to tell us that. We know that it will be in time for the Holidays this year.

How is this corrupt? A company has legally licensed the work, put in all of the effort to make that work (including huge financial investment in pre-production, production, post-production, marketing and distribution), and is now releasing the movies in different flavors for different tastes, with 1 option as an incentive for people to buy this release so that they can have an exclusive LIVE event look at what's coming.

Is it greed when a restaurant charges extra for a side choice in addition to the meal they are offering? If so, what should be free and who pays for it if you are the consumer (who has no investment in the preparation/delivery but merely the consumption).

Should The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit be sold at all since they have made mountains of money since first being published and are engrained in world-wide cultures as timeless stories? How much money is enough for the Tolkien Estate?

Middle Earth is New Zealand!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."

(This post was edited by Owain on Feb 6 2013, 8:13pm)


Feb 6 2013, 8:28pm

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I agree.

I don't see corruption at all. I just see a company doing business with a customer base that really wants their product. And I see this company offering promos as they are able.

What's the problem? I don't see it. This is supposed to be fun entertainment.


Feb 6 2013, 9:25pm

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An audiophile... whoda thunk it.


Feb 6 2013, 9:46pm

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Agree also; why doesn't anyone have patience any more?

I want the whole, completed boxed-set of films and soundtracks, and I want it now. But I can't have it. So I just tell myself that it's worth waiting for, and find other distractions until I can have it. However many years that takes.
I've got the film to enjoy in my head - as many times as I want - and the vlogs - and the LOTR boxed set which I never tire of viewing (but it's quite an undertaking!)

If people don't want to wait until the full extended version is ready (and even if PJ says he's already done the cut that doesn't mean it's anywhere near ready for release) then it's their choice whether they fork out for any intermediate offerings and certainly no-one is pressuring them to do so.

I think PJ et. al. have been very open and fair about what to expect in these releases.

It's the whole attitude of demanding content as if one had a god-given right to it that I disagree with. These films have taken and enormous investment of money, time, effort, thought, skill and I should imagine a considerable amount of sacrifice (working on a film schedule seems to demand anti-social hours and often difficult conditions). Why they should give anything away for free to an ungrateful public is beyond me; but of course PJ knows who his audience is, and after all it's good business to not piss off your core customers; everyone else can go spin :-)


Feb 7 2013, 12:35am

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Adding my agreement

I do not understand this hate for people / entities making money. For the most part, the world is capitalist - well, any of the places any one here would prefer to live anyway. Capitalist. We exchange money for property and/or labor. This hatred socalled corporate greed baffles me. A corporation pays my salary. I use that money to live in a pleasant home, buy food, clothing, vehicle, furniture, medicine, a haircut, shoes, and to buy a movie ticket and/or every version of AUJ that will ever be available. I am not forced though. and I certainly don't hate the company for limiting full access to paying customers. in fact, i think it's exceptionally generous that they're going to give free access to an edited version to the world.

And, before anyone says it...
Money is not the root of all evil. The love of money is the root of all evil.

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Feb 7 2013, 1:10am

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I also agree.

I'm glad to give them the money for a worthy product. I was going to buy it anyway and other movie franchises are making as much money or more with inferior products. Just like with LOTRs, I purchased the regular edition and later on the EE. Then the blue-ray and blue-ray EE.


Feb 7 2013, 5:12am

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I know I will be waiting for -

- the Extended version.

I found the theatrical versions of the Rings movies to be too short and knowing there are parts 'missing' from a Middle-Earth movie tends to annoy me.


From the makers of 'The Lord of the Rings' comes the sequel to Peter Jackson's Hobbit Trilogy -
'The War in the North, Part I : The Sword in the Tomb'.


Feb 7 2013, 7:19am

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How is this ANY different than how the LOTR DVDs were released a decade ago?

The DVDs releases of the films in the (first) Trilogy were released in pretty much the same way: first a standard DVD with the theatrical cut plus a few very minor extras, followed a few months later by the special editions with their extended cuts and a mountain-load of in-depth extra features. I fail to see how doing this for the Hobbit films makes Warner Bros look more "greedy" than New Line did a decade ago.

Also, compared to some other DVD releases, this Hobbit DVD may be skimpy, but it's not bare bones. If you want to see a bare bones release that practically spat in the eye of its purchasers, see the Avatar DVD from a coupe years back. At least the first Hobbit Blu will have the Vlogs, the trailers, and a few other things that'll interest fans. Avatar had a play button, a scene select submenu, and audio/language options function. Thats it. Thank you Rupert Murdoch and James Cameron.

On that note, and this is mostly incidental, but I wanted to say this here since your sentiment about the studio is being repeated a lot in these forums: Hollywood studios are not our friends. Studios are not in the business of being nice to fan bases or being bastions of ethical business practices. They're in the business of making money, and if they feel that milking fans for all their worth will ensure more profits, they'll do it.

It's extremely naive to proclaim that Jeff Robinov and his cadre of thugs in Burbank are greedier than Smaug. All studio suits at the end of the day are solely interested in making their quarterly reports look good, and that's the bottom line.

Tol Eressea

Feb 7 2013, 11:22am

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That's not what's bothering some of us

Almost nobody has a problem with releasing the theatrical cut now and the SEE later. I dunno why you even bring this up here, i haven't seen anyone complaining about it in this thread.

What's bothersome is the full DOS internet preview that only those that bought the theatrical cut can watch. Even more so since many (if not all) outside the USA won't be able to watch it at all due to the fact the bluray/dvd doesn't come out until April here. They should have at least put it on the disc.

But whatever, if it doesn't leak on youtube at least they'll put something out for everybody else. It's not the end of the world.


Feb 7 2013, 4:12pm

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Initially I thought

that a digital copy will be available for download for everyone on 12th March but then I realized that in Europe will be available starting with April 8th when the DVD/Blu-Ray will be launched.

So no sneak peek for me :)

“The world is not in your books and maps. It's out there!”


Feb 7 2013, 4:46pm

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A bummer for Europeans usualFrown

Can't understand why not allow everyone who wants to spend money for this to be able to see the event at a date for all countries around the world...

Oh well , one less reason for me to buy the theatrical...(Pity, I was excited when this event got announced)

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost,
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

(This post was edited by Vangalad on Feb 7 2013, 4:53pm)