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Expansion of Kili's role



Súlimë
Rivendell


Jan 23 2013, 5:41am


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Expansion of Kili's role
I have to admit that I was a little worried by the fact that Kili gets so much screen time in AUJ. He is nice to look at and all, but why did they need to show him beside Thorin in almost every scene? (Hopefully the relatively lack of Fili screen time is due to last-minute actor change, but we will have to see)

So, I did a bit of research, and found that Peter Jackson saw Aidan Turner in Being Human and wanted him for the role. I was curious.

So naturally I watched Being Human... and I was completely blown away by how convincing Aidan was in his role. I thought Kili was just there to be pretty, but once I realized what Aidan could do, it gave me a new perspective.

Obviously, PJ is going to do something with Kili's role -- and perhaps a lot of something. If he was just there simply to be funny, be cool and slightly heroic and die tragically, then it would be such a waste of talent.

However, this gave me a new concern. It's Bilbo's story after all! Putting attention on the Dwarves and turning Thorin into a tragic hero is one thing, as he's the main Dwarf. But now Kili too?

Not that I'm complaining -- if anything, I'm intrigued. But I can't help but feel that it is going to be a tricky balance to keep.


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Jan 23 2013, 6:24am


Views: 1635
Dwarves....why did it have to be Dwarves....
Bilbo is, indeed the central character in the book... but in the book, most of the characters are not much more than nice rhyming names on a list. I'm excited about the films because we've already had many of these characters fleshed out very nicely... both in design and characterization.

My first thoughts on seeing Thorin, Fili and Kili was... "those do not look like the Dwarves my Elves played D&D with all those years..."

I now have the WETA book and you can see the progression from the first character designs (stereotypes created by... ummm... the Hobbit and all things Tolkien) to what we see on screen (freakin' brilliant!). We have characters all ages of the audience can relate to. We have characters that are getting the attention of the teen and twenty-something fangirls who may turn from vapid sparkly vampires to some Real Literature.

All of which is to say Aidan Turner could have been just another pretty face (like those sparkly boys). And that would have made me yawwwwwwwwn. I'm old enough to be his (Dwarven) mother, and I found him appealing because he projects something far more than pretty.

Yeah, what is that? Ummmmmm... he's (Kili) completely unaware that he's pretty. He's like an enthusiastic Siberian husky pup who should be running 1000 miles, only he's just bounced into Bag End and is tracking mud all over, and throwing things on the floor and chewing things up and leaving dustbunnies the size of Smaug in his wake. He's skilled but untested. He often has a look that says, "What, I did that?!?" He's hilarious. He's completely lovable.

I am glad PJ decided to do three films, not only does it match LOTR, but we have more time to develop these characters (and I suspect others will have more moments later)... more time to fall in love with all of them... and in the end we will care far more than we did in the book when they were just nice rhyming names on a list.
Go outside and play...


Angharad73
Rohan

Jan 23 2013, 8:13am


Views: 1521
Exactly!
I completely agree. For what it's worth, I'm also outside the teen/twenties demographic, and when I saw the first pictures of the dwarves I thought that Kili was far too pretty to be a dwarf. Well, Fili is rather easy on the eye, too, but to me he didn't look like the obvious 'pretty boy' as he has a quirkier look. Kili, on the other hand, looked just like that - a pretty boy to catch the teenage demographic. So I was a little apprehensive about what he would be like in the movie.

And I was very pleasantly surprised. He still is pretty to look at, but he doesn't act 'pretty'. He isn't very self-aware, I think. He just does whatever pops into his head and often surprises himself in the process. I really like the analogy of the Husky puppy - well, I haven't owned a Husky myself, but I've had a few other puppies in my time, and they have all acted very much like that. They come running in, all eager to please and excited about their big adventure. They wreak havoc on occasion and get into all sorts of mischief, but they also learn and seek approbation. Kili really wants to please Thorin, most of all, and I like the interactions between these two. There still is a lot of room for character development on Kili's part, and I hope that we get to see that.


jimmyfenn
Rohan


Jan 23 2013, 9:43am


Views: 1492
worried
i would have been more than happy with the way the dwarves worked out of they had just had proper dwarf beards!!!!!

kili looks more like an elf compared to gimli. balin is perfect. my favourite newest character. they should have gone with a cast of dwarves all that caliber. snowwhite and the huntsman managed to get some excellent actors for the dwarves. bill bailey and johhny vegas where are they?

for me in the book the company of dwarves had an air of mystery about them, like all the dwarves do in tolkiens stories.

any way, with all the other story arcs happening at the same time, i think we may lose out on the hobbits point of view if were not carefull.
"You Tolkien to me?!" - Hobbit de Niro


Roheryn
Tol Eressea

Jan 23 2013, 10:07am


Views: 1517
I suspect that's part of PJ's brilliance.
Kili's got all the bouncy enthusiasm of Tigger, or, as swordwhale so nicely put it, a Husky pup. We're going to love him by the end (if we don't already!), and his character arc is going to be heartbreaking. I think Kili (and Fili too, most likely) will serve as a nice foil to Thorin when Thorin has his eventual meltdown. I suspect we're not going to completely lose our sympathy for Thorin -- even though RA says we're going to hate him! -- but the audience is likely to relate really well to Kili by then, when we're starting to want to give Thorin a kick up the proverbial backside. Kili may be feeling what the audience feels at that point: he and we all will still care deeply about Thorin, but will be wishing Thorin would come to his senses and snap out of the dragon-sickness. I actually think this may be fascinating: will Kili feel a serious internal conflict between his loyalty to Thorin and what he feels is the right thing to do by Bilbo and those who have a claim on the treasure? Is Kili going to be forced to grow up quickly -- just in time to be slain in battle?

I read an interview somewhere recently where RA said that he and Kili (he had been asked about Kili specifically, and did not mention Fili) have some intimate moments later on. And in another interview, RA said the original backstory was that Thorin didn't want to take his nephews on the quest because he didn't want to endanger them; this has been scrapped from AUJ, but apparently the idea will still resurface in either DOS or TABA.

Anyways, I think Kili is fantastic. He's bouncy, irrepressible, enthusiastic, eager to please, and just plain funny. What's not to love? Looks aren't really relevant (okay, they don't hurt, but still...). I'm thrilled that PJ has developed this character so much more fully than what we get in the book; and I can't wait to see how Kili develops and, I suspect, matures, over the next two movies.


marillaraina
Rohan

Jan 23 2013, 10:27am


Views: 1451
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I have to admit that I was a little worried by the fact that Kili gets so much screen time in AUJ. He is nice to look at and all, but why did they need to show him beside Thorin in almost every scene? (Hopefully the relatively lack of Fili screen time is due to last-minute actor change, but we will have to see)

So, I did a bit of research, and found that Peter Jackson saw Aidan Turner in Being Human and wanted him for the role. I was curious.

So naturally I watched Being Human... and I was completely blown away by how convincing Aidan was in his role. I thought Kili was just there to be pretty, but once I realized what Aidan could do, it gave me a new perspective.

Obviously, PJ is going to do something with Kili's role -- and perhaps a lot of something. If he was just there simply to be funny, be cool and slightly heroic and die tragically, then it would be such a waste of talent.

However, this gave me a new concern. It's Bilbo's story after all! Putting attention on the Dwarves and turning Thorin into a tragic hero is one thing, as he's the main Dwarf. But now Kili too?

Not that I'm complaining -- if anything, I'm intrigued. But I can't help but feel that it is going to be a tricky balance to keep.

I agreevery much with something Angharad said, and it's one of the things which I think helps make Kili interesting as a character, or at least a little different maybe from what might be expected and that is while he certainly has a certain amount of confidence, he really wasn't, in the first film anyway, what I'd call "cocky", he wasn't really a hotshot.

He was friendly and confident but also eager to please and sometimes seemed to almost be surprised when he did something and it worked. The double take he does at the sword when he manages to stop the Goblin arrows is great. Even when he was shooting at the orcs and wargs on the plains, it wasn't like he was showing off, it was like he just was really focused on doing what he had to do and took it very seriously. I think that helps make him likable, he's very capable, but he generally seems to be an inclusive, accepting sort of fellow.

As for screen time, I don't think it's a huge deal, screen time wise that he was standing next to Thorin alot. It isn't like he had a lot of lines. He also plays a somewhat unique role within the company, being the archer.

When it comes to "turning Kili tragic", well he is(and Fili too), I mean they die, defending the uncle who a short time before was sort of at the center of a whole heap of trouble because he wouldn't share any of the wealth(I know it's more complicated than that, and the blame doesn't lie entirely with Thorin, imo, but that discussion isn't for here really). So, leaving any other characters aside, he's young, he knew nothing of the world before this quest and he dies in battle(man PJ better not change that, that's a concern of mine) - he is a tragic figure. Tolkien may have almost entirely glossed over Kili and Fili's deaths with one throwaway sentence but there was no way that was going to fly in the film. So in that sense IMO Kili's role was always going to be expanded.

I wonder what Jackson had seen up to, on Being Human, when Turner got the call to audition? Had he seen Season 2 or only Season 1? AT found out he got the role while Season 3 was filming from the sounds of it, and that was months after the audition. Season 1's Mitchell was a somewhat lighter character, still with his dark side and complexities but not as heavy as it got in Season 2--with trying, and ultimately failing in a most spectacular and violent fashion, to control the chaos after the destruction of the previous "safeguards" which had kept the vampires and their killings under some semblance of control, and especially Season 3, dealing with the aftermath of all that which was just one long, terrible downward spiral. One of my favorite scenes is that confrontation with Lucy the final ep of Season 2, in that weird lab where they were trying to "cure" the werewolves, "we are all God's creatures, etc".

Anyway, that's off the topic, I just wonder which Peter had seen because it would be interesting to know what had impressed him, not that it would necessarily have anything to do with Kili's role - actors get seen in roles all the time where someone decides they'd be good for something even if it's entirely different. I think Season 1 Mitchell would have shown his ability with comedy, playing a friend, more personal sized stories while Season 2 could be said to show more about his character struggling with something larger than his just his own personal concerns.

Maybe it was just that he showed versatility by being able to play both light and dark,often in quick succession, showing someone struggling between two worlds, which would have given PJ some confidence that he'd be able to portray Kili with depth, even if was a totally different type of role.

I mean Ken Stott is clearly extremely talented but I have a feeling Balin is probably mainly going to be there as the kind hearted, mostly sensible, though still bad ass, advisor so I don't know that it would be a waste even if Kili was mainly meant to be a likable, sometimes humorous, brave young dwarf - the point is to portray whatever the character is very well and to give the portrayal, whatever it is, depth.

I do think there will probably be more to it, as you suggest, as we kind of have a hint from when it comes to the rumors about Tauriel, but I don't necessarily think it's going to be hugely different. I think, or hope anyway(anything but a Middle Earth Romeo and Juliet:)), it'll have more to do with the overall theme of good people of all cultures coming together to fight evil, and using those two characters to illustrate a small part of it, by in some way influencing each other's thinking, removing some of the prejudice, and perhaps in turn they will manage to influence their elder's thinking at some crucial moment.

Probably totally wrong about that, but that's my hope for it.


stoutfiles
Rohan


Jan 23 2013, 2:12pm


Views: 1487
Kili gets all the screentime
Because he's going to die. They can't fully develop all the dwarves, so they're going to develop the ones that die for a bigger emotional impact. Currently, Kili's death would be sadder than say, Bifur, because we've gotten very little time to get to know Bifur.

My concern right now is that Fili ISN"T getting much screentime, and hopefully they fix that in DoS. He's important too! He's the one that's more book-accurate!


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jan 23 2013, 2:26pm


Views: 1395
The Beard does not make the Dwarf.
'nough said.
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Rostron2
Gondor


Jan 23 2013, 4:51pm


Views: 1357
We're transferring our distorted values on appearance
onto the character and his importance to the story. I don't see him getting a lot of extra attention in the film, except from fans :) He has some nice interaction with Bilbo, and since it's an ensemble film, they all hold each other up by simply being in the scene, even if they don't have lines. Reactions and throwing focus, not to mention the action sequences, all make up the character's 'presence' on screen. Aiden happens to have good screen presence, too.

It's sort of like when you buy a car, suddenly you see your car amongst everything else on the highway.

If PJ has done anything at all to Kili's credit, is that he gave him an identity and Aiden gave him a personality. For this we thank them. The same can be said for most of the other dwarves, to varying degrees.


jimmyfenn
Rohan


Jan 23 2013, 5:22pm


Views: 1319
I would disagree
hence why i wrote my post, cest fini.
"You Tolkien to me?!" - Hobbit de Niro


Rane
Bree


Jan 23 2013, 6:45pm


Views: 1324
People seem to forget
That Fili will die too. I hope you're right about him getting more screen time.
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marillaraina
Rohan

Jan 24 2013, 12:37am


Views: 1216
Very true.
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'nough said.
Kili's personality is dwarven and he's the right size, who the heck cares how big his beard is? :) Though to be honest he looked quite good with a beard and a similar lack of heavy prosthetics, so I'm inclined to believe the lack of beard was mainly for differentiation, it's amazing how easy it is to confuse Turner and Armitage on first glance when they have similar amounts of hair, facial and hair-do--I don't know how many people I've seen say "Oh I mistook him for RA at first" when they see a clip of that VLOG where he has the beard and buzzcut during rehearsals at Bag End and oddly, they both somehow vaguely resemble Hugh Jackman(someone did one of those photomerge things, weird, esp RA's the photo barely changed at all LOL), yet they seem to look so different from each other. I'd never look at them and think they look at all alike and yet...under the right conditions, they somehow give off a similar impression.

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My concern right now is that Fili ISN"T getting much screentime, and hopefully they fix that in DoS. He's important too! He's the one that's more book-accurate!
Not really, in the book Fili was the youngest, which IMO is a more important change than color of hair and length of beard. The fact is they could have chosen either way to go, they could have gone by the ages in the book or the ages in the Appendix. They chose to go by the Appendix but that is still a change from the book whereas the appendix age is easy enough to excuse as Tolkien just plain forgetting what he wrote because he didn't care enough about Fili and Kili to differentiate(or write more than half a sentence about their deaths) and couldn't be bothered to look it up so he'd get the ages right.

In point of fact Fili's dialogue wasn't much less if you look at that chart someone did last week where they measured dialogue. Kili was listed only just above Fili and the difference was small. That belies the idea that the filmmakers are somehow short-changing the character because as I recall the difference was almost negligible. They were listed between two of the Stone Trolls, Kili had slightly less dialogue in the whole film as Tom the Troll and Fili slightly had more dialogue than William the Troll. Bofur and even Dwalin were significantly above them.

So I'm just not seeing this big unfair discrepancy between them. Maybe one just makes more of an impression than the other, it might be as simple as "stage presence".


(This post was edited by marillaraina on Jan 24 2013, 12:39am)


sycorax82
Rohan

Jan 24 2013, 12:39am


Views: 1298
I still think 'Tili' is happening!
That's Tauriel/Kili fyi ;).

Seriously, I can see there being at least some connection between the two characters. Not a full romance but at least some suggestion of a...strong friendship that will help ramp up both the tension between Elves and Dwarves (Legolas certainly wouldn't be happy about this friendship...) and make for some emotional scenes later on.

I almost feel that this HAS to happen, as well as the continuation of Gandalf and Galadriel's bond. One thing's for sure, nothing will feel as forced as Arwen's scenes in TTT and ROTK ('the life of the Eldar is leaving you...' ahem Crazy)


Kimtc
Rohan


Jan 24 2013, 3:21am


Views: 1219
My friend just read the book after seeing the movie with me.
She lost it when she got to the line about Fili/Kili in TBo5A. She called me freaking out. She said she read it and went "WTF!" (which was my own reaction back when I read it, but more because it seemed kind of throwaway and unnecessary, not because I was invested in hot dwarves like she is). She is convinced they cannot die in the movie. I explained to her how this would mess up the canon, cause book fans to riot, etc., but she can't believe PJ would create such nice, cute characters and have them iced. I asked her if she had ever seen a war movie, watched Old Yeller, but she's immovable.

So if she's any indication of the soon to be surprised moviegoers out there (think Ned in Game of Thrones), screaming will occur in the theaters.


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Jan 24 2013, 5:24am


Views: 1231
pretty dwarves....
 
transferring your distorted values of appearance...

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onto the character and his importance to the story.

Someone did a nifty cartoon in which young Kili is being laughed at by an assortment of Dwarves in his community for being "unDwarven" and funny looking. Loved the idea that while, to us humans (especially females) he is quite lovely... but to his fellow Dwarves he might be a bit wimpy looking.

Didn't get to see Aidan in that ... what was it with werewolves again???... but feel he is quite talented.
Go outside and play...


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Jan 24 2013, 6:03am


Views: 1229
screaming fangirls...
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She lost it when she got to the line about Fili/Kili in TBo5A. She called me freaking out. She said she read it and went "WTF!" (which was my own reaction back when I read it, but more because it seemed kind of throwaway and unnecessary, not because I was invested in hot dwarves like she is). She is convinced they cannot die in the movie. I explained to her how this would mess up the canon, cause book fans to riot, etc., but she can't believe PJ would create such nice, cute characters and have them iced. I asked her if she had ever seen a war movie, watched Old Yeller, but she's immovable.

So if she's any indication of the soon to be surprised moviegoers out there (think Ned in Game of Thrones), screaming will occur in the theaters.
...they're already screaming on tumblr, and posting things like the set of GIFs in which we see a happy Aidan Turner (this is me reading the Hobbit), followed by a less happy Aidan Turner (this is me halfway through).. followed by random person wailing (this is me on chapter XVIII)... or sad music...

Yeah, this is going to go on for , um, what? Two years??? I think we need a big site to have a fan wake for them, post all the fanart and stuff that's been building up....

Now where's my Kleenex...
Go outside and play...


Súlimë
Rivendell


Jan 24 2013, 7:13am


Views: 1164
You're absolutely right
about Kili not acting pretty (unlike Legolas -- but I guess OB wasn't given much to do with the role anyway). Kili's got a goofy, naive energy, so I was totally surprised when I saw how intense AT could be with his vampire character.

I'm glad too that it's 3 films instead of 2. When I heard the news my first thought was "Awesome! More Middle-Earth!"


Súlimë
Rivendell


Jan 24 2013, 7:16am


Views: 1175
:)
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There still is a lot of room for character development on Kili's part, and I hope that we get to see that.
I think so too! I hope to see more Fili and Kili moments as well.


Lost_istari
Registered User


Jan 24 2013, 7:29am


Views: 1168
That would be good.
I have read the book so many times, but usually brush through the deaths at the end of The Battle of Five Armies because I know what's coming and want to get on with it. However I was on Instagram the other day and someone posted some fan art of Fili/Kili dead and I almost lost it sitting in class (maybe because it was a polisci class on genocide and I was already feeling icky). I think it would be best for all our sanities to start mourning the aidan/dean versions of Kili and Fili (and Thorin!) now to save us the embarassment of weeping in the theatres come 2014 (maybe this a more widespread phenomena, but I only cry when watching the PJ LotR trilogy and now AUJ.. not for anything else, but unexplicably everytime I see the movies even though I know what's coming). When someone posts a Fili/Kili wake site, I'll be on it.


Súlimë
Rivendell


Jan 24 2013, 7:36am


Views: 1205
With the Tauriel thing...
... I think Kili is definitely getting extra attention.

But to be honest, now I have slightly more faith in the change and believe they won't be doing a slap job of "let's get pretty people to kiss!"

Tongue


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Jan 24 2013, 7:38am


Views: 1168
in the wake of the bros
I thinnk I know the fan art you speak of... well done... gut-wrenching.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!

I've also seen lots of art based on their childhoods. Most of it very warm and fuzzy and fun.
Go outside and play...


Súlimë
Rivendell


Jan 24 2013, 7:49am


Views: 1170
Interesting
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In point of fact Fili's dialogue wasn't much less if you look at that chart someone did last week where they measured dialogue. Kili was listed only just above Fili and the difference was small. That belies the idea that the filmmakers are somehow short-changing the character because as I recall the difference was almost negligible. They were listed between two of the Stone Trolls, Kili had slightly less dialogue in the whole film as Tom the Troll and Fili slightly had more dialogue than William the Troll. Bofur and even Dwalin were significantly above them.

So I'm just not seeing this big unfair discrepancy between them. Maybe one just makes more of an impression than the other, it might be as simple as "stage presence".
I thought it was interesting as well when I saw the screen time stats, because in my impression, Fili got WAY less screen time than Kili.

However, it seems that Kili is given more to do. He is the first one to charge the trolls, he gets to 'emote' (like when Thorin scolds them, or during the stone giants scene). And Thorin keeps shouting "Kili!" the whole movie regardless of whether he was in danger or not Tongue


Angharad73
Rohan

Jan 24 2013, 9:03am


Views: 1178
More Fili...
... would be a good thing as well. I'd like to see some more of him, both with Kili and on his own. But the relationship between the two brothers is interesting, and it would be lovely to see some more of it.


Súlimë
Rivendell


Jan 24 2013, 9:06am


Views: 1176
This is why I can't wait for the EE!
I thought the EEs did so much more for the three LotR movies. Can't wait to see more character development (which will be plenty, I believe) in the AUJ's EE!


Angharad73
Rohan

Jan 24 2013, 9:14am


Views: 1147
I hope so!
I hope that that will be the case. I love the LOTR EEs, and there was so much interesting material in there that fleshed out the characters. If they can do the same with the Hobbit EEs, I would be very happy.


CathrineB
Rohan


Jan 24 2013, 9:30am


Views: 380
Yes, yes! More Fili!
I love both of them and I want more of him too. What I loved about the two (besides like being beside one another throughout most of the movie) was how they finished each other's sentences. Like when they tell Bilbo about the ponies. They switch between explaining haha. Also at the end haha.

Anyway I was surprised by Kili's role in the movie too. The posters around shows quite a bit different version of him all broody and stuff while in the movie he's damn adorable. I think you're right about he not caring what he looks like, hench why he has no braids either. Fili got a lot of them, Kili none. He doesn't care. He wants to travel and fight and explore.

I particularly loved how protective he got of Bilbo. I didn't expect that, but it's such a lovely touch.

I am hoping they are going somewhere with this because they hired an amazing actor. I was watching Being Human long before The Hobbit and they must have hired him for more than his looks when he's so talented. It's going to kill me Sly Anyway so far the two roles are so different (at least the two second seasons). Aidan is extremely good with emotions. You should check out my favorite episode "Lia" (3x01). There's a train scene where he's brought back to a crime scene faced with those he killed... it's amazing.


(This post was edited by CathrineB on Jan 24 2013, 9:33am)


Angharad73
Rohan

Jan 24 2013, 9:45am


Views: 380
I have to admit...
... that before coming to this forum I had never heard of Being Human. I don't watch a lot of TV because I live in a country now where it's hard to find TV series in the original language and I do not like translations. But I think I might have to check it out...


mutelock
Bree


Jan 24 2013, 11:00am


Views: 353
You might!
Even though I still think the writers butchered his character in seasons 2 and 3, Aidan was nothing but great. This young man is intense! I've liked him as Kili: he's brave and funny - eager to please. Boy, it's gonna be messed up in the end.


Súlimë
Rivendell


Jan 24 2013, 11:21am


Views: 351
Yes!
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What I loved about the two (besides like being beside one another throughout most of the movie) was how they finished each other's sentences. Like when they tell Bilbo about the ponies. They switch between explaining haha. Also at the end haha.
Me and my sister totally do that! Sometimes with people we have just met they just seem a bit confused.

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I am hoping they are going somewhere with this because they hired an amazing actor. I was watching Being Human long before The Hobbit and they must have hired him for more than his looks when he's so talented. It's going to kill me Sly Anyway so far the two roles are so different (at least the two second seasons). Aidan is extremely good with emotions. You should check out my favorite episode "Lia" (3x01). There's a train scene where he's brought back to a crime scene faced with those he killed... it's amazing.
That episode was so good! It might be one of the best tv moments in my life.


Angharad73
Rohan

Jan 24 2013, 11:42am


Views: 358
The End...
Yes, as much as I am looking forward to seeing the two up-coming Hobbit movies, I am also dreading the last one. I only thought about Thorin along those lines, at the start, but the more I see of Fili and Kili, the more I know that the end is going to be hard to watch because of them, too.


Eleniel
Tol Eressea


Jan 24 2013, 5:57pm


Views: 345
You want intense Aidan?
Then get hold of a DVD of the BBC drama series "Desparate Romantics" where he plays the Pre-Raphaelite artist and poet Dante Gabriel Rossetti...let's just say Aidan gets plenty of exposure in that role! Wink

"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
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mutelock
Bree


Jan 24 2013, 11:52pm


Views: 316
Haha! I've watched it!
Exposure indeed... Angelic


CathrineB
Rohan


Jan 25 2013, 12:45am


Views: 313
Out of the gutter you two
Angelic


marillaraina
Rohan

Jan 25 2013, 1:09am


Views: 351
Me too
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I love both of them and I want more of him too. What I loved about the two (besides like being beside one another throughout most of the movie) was how they finished each other's sentences. Like when they tell Bilbo about the ponies. They switch between explaining haha. Also at the end haha.

Anyway I was surprised by Kili's role in the movie too. The posters around shows quite a bit different version of him all broody and stuff while in the movie he's damn adorable. I think you're right about he not caring what he looks like, hench why he has no braids either. Fili got a lot of them, Kili none. He doesn't care. He wants to travel and fight and explore.

I particularly loved how protective he got of Bilbo. I didn't expect that, but it's such a lovely touch.

I am hoping they are going somewhere with this because they hired an amazing actor. I was watching Being Human long before The Hobbit and they must have hired him for more than his looks when he's so talented. It's going to kill me Sly Anyway so far the two roles are so different (at least the two second seasons). Aidan is extremely good with emotions. You should check out my favorite episode "Lia" (3x01). There's a train scene where he's brought back to a crime scene faced with those he killed... it's amazing.
I was really pleased with how they played Kili's role. I figured I'd like him and pretty much all the dwarves but I really thought it was a great decision to make him so...adorable. I never actually was concerned he'd be "broody" because the vlogs didn't make it seem like he'd be, nor did that test dialogue they wrote for the audition which was posted on TORN back when, but I did worry, given the basic character description, they might go for more of a cliche "cocky, show off, full of himself" sort of vibe, so when Kili turned out to be eager to please, friendly, a bit naive and open it was a really nice surprise.

And yes I think one of my favorite developments was how fond and protective he was of Bilbo. He was also brave without being a show off, it just came off as so natural and automatic, like it just popped into his head and seems to be curious and have a sense of adventure.

And it's true Kili himself doesn't look like he can be bothered to worry about his hair or his looks, which might imply his mind is on other things.

I love the train scene in "Lia". I also recently rewatched the end of Season 1 and you know, I just don't understand why Season 2 and 3 went like they did. I remember when Aidan Turner left the show(it was the end of his contract) and they made really what was a very nice public announcement that he wasn't coming back because of The Hobbit but there were little things in there which made me wonder - like how they said they always knew he'd be moving on to bigger things, they wouldn't have him long, etc.

Given how the last two season of Richard Armitage on Spooks went, part of me really is starting to wonder if the producers/writers don't sort of take it out on the characters that the actors are probably going to leave, because heck if anything Armitage's character Lucas North was assassinated more than Mitchell was. I say this because somehow Mitchell was written as more capable and mature in Season 1 than in the next two. It's not that it was impossible for Season 1 Mitchell to end where Season 3's was, but I just feel like Season 1 Mitchell would have gone about it all in a smarter if still ultimately unsuccessful fashion, it was like they just wanted to destroy the character in the hopes no one would miss him when he was gone.

I mean don't get me wrong, the show is a great show, I just didn't particularly like the writing for the character.

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Then get hold of a DVD of the BBC drama series "Desparate Romantics" where he plays the Pre-Raphaelite artist and poet Dante Gabriel Rossetti...let's just say Aidan gets plenty of exposure in that role!
I've seen that! It's was kind of a cool idea -it definitely is the sort of thing that I think you either really like or can't stand, but I found it pretty entertaining. It honestly made me laugh quite a bit and Aidan did a great job with Rossetti, who let's face it, is rather an @$$.

He was quite charming, so it was easy to understand why his "friends" for one reason or another somehow kept getting mixed up with him and his schemes and ideas, because he mostly wasn't malicious, he was just self-centered and irresponsible, he wasn't a schemer in the sense of thinking of ways to hurt people, he just did things because he was so self-involved he didn't think about what his actions would do to anyone else.


(This post was edited by marillaraina on Jan 25 2013, 1:17am)