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Gollum's Design in FoTR



MorgolKing
Rivendell

Jan 3 2013, 6:24pm


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Gollum's Design in FoTR
Has the Gollum design used in FoTR ever been released? I know they changed his design between FoTR and TTT, but I've never seen what his full FoTR looked like.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 3 2013, 6:27pm


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I still don't see the difference
Even with screencaps side by side, how can anyone notice they are different?

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Carne
Tol Eressea

Jan 3 2013, 6:49pm


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I saw the VFX reel of a guy who worked on the FOTR Gollum, but I can't remember where I found it
Will post here if I do Smile


Magpie
Immortal


Jan 3 2013, 7:07pm


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are you going by screencaps?
...or are you watching the movie?

The moments with Gollum in FOTR are quick and I don't think many of the screencaps I could find highlight the differences.

I've always noticed the differences while watching the movie.

Re: the prologue Gollum - the shape of the head looks different to me. But I don't have an easy screencap using the same angles of the more developed CGI versions to compare to.

Re: Moria Gollum - the nose is quite snub and the brow seems flatter.






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DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 3 2013, 7:26pm


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Did you enhance the bottom two pictures Magpie?
It's not as light in my copy - Gollum's features are more obvious in these pictures than I've previously seen.

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Magpie
Immortal


Jan 3 2013, 7:48pm


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most screencaps are too dark for me
and to see detail I often lighten them. I think, maybe, they look lighter on the tv or in the theater, but either the screencapping procedure darkens them or my monitor runs too dark (and it may be my monitor - or maybe my eyes!).

So, yes, all four images are lightened using levels in Photoshop.

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imin
Valinor


Jan 4 2013, 1:01am


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I always thought he looked more creepy in FOTR //
 


percy
The Shire

Jan 4 2013, 2:26am


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Even non-CG characters can look different from shot to shot
I don't think the differences are so strong, and certainly not while actually watching the movie at normal speed. I believe I recall Peter Jackson saying something on the commentaries about wanting to go back and swap out the original Gollum for the design they eventually used, but they're similar enough, and the scenes are quick and dark enough that I don't think it's necessary.


Mooseboy018
Grey Havens


Jan 4 2013, 2:44am


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original Gollum design
http://asiancorrespondent.com/...itGollum-621x313.jpg


flameofudun
Lorien

Jan 4 2013, 2:47am


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I like the current gollum better.
He look more, hobbit like, even though is still creep and inhuman.
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DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 4 2013, 8:17am


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No, still looks like the same character to me ;-)
Must be my eyes! Ha!

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Starling
Half-elven


Jan 4 2013, 9:00am


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Really?
I can't get over how different he looks!


MorgolKing
Rivendell

Jan 4 2013, 5:54pm


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Really?
In Reply To
Wow where did you find this?


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 4 2013, 6:01pm


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But without scouring the web for images
The difference isn't particularly striking to me. Blush


LordotRings93
Rohan


Jan 4 2013, 6:20pm


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Still looks the same, mostly
Just his mouth looks more goblinesque.
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Starling
Half-elven


Jan 4 2013, 7:13pm


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I've never looked at any still images
but I have always noticed it.
Maybe that says something about how many times I have watched the films. I need to get out more. Laugh


weaver
Half-elven


Jan 6 2013, 2:43am


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I don't think the design changed as much as it got more detailed...
My understanding was always that Jackson only showed Gollum in a shadowy sort of way in FOTR because they were still working on how to make him look more lifelike, so he'd hold up better when shown with the other actors...the basic look for him did not change, it just got more realistic, the way I remember it.

Of course I have trouble remembering where I put my car keys, so I could be totally off base on this! Off hand the best place to check would probably be in one of hte commentaries on the creation of Gollum, I'd guess...
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imin
Valinor


Jan 6 2013, 11:15pm


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I always thought his eyes looked different
but from looking at the models for FOTR it doesnt really look like they are at all, more Gollum's jaw which is different.


sycorax82
Rohan

Jan 9 2013, 7:18pm


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I think he was originally more like Alan Lee's Gollum
That look can be seen here - http://fantasy.mrugala.net/Alan%20Lee/Alan%20Lee%20-%20L'apprivoisement%20de%20Gollum.jpg

What changed was them making him look more like Andy Serkis and more of a character rather than just a 'creature'.

I am hoping Peter replaces it with a shadowy version of his AUJ look in a future edition of FOTR.


Mooseboy018
Grey Havens


Jan 9 2013, 9:19pm


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It changed.
They talk about it in the Two Towers extended edition appendices. They took the original design and changed it to look more like Andy Serkis.