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48fps questionnaire



afterthecredits
Registered User

Dec 31 2012, 9:42pm


Views: 1470
48fps questionnaire

Hi!

I run a podcast called after the credits and this week we will be reviewing the hobbit!

If you have seen the hobbit in 48fps could you please take 2 minutes at the most to complete this quick survey. The results of which will be announced in this weeks episode.

Just reply to the thread and write down the question number with the answer number. Thanks.

Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up?
1- Only at the start
2- Untill arounf the end of the dinner sequence
3- Untill about halfway through
4- The whole way through.

Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?
1- Realistic
2- Video game
3- Soap opera
4- Sports game
5- Any other

Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3d glasses more than regular?
1- Yes
2- No

Question Four - If yes to question three, how often did you have to do this?
1- Frequently
2- Only occasionally
3- Once or twice.

Question Five - Based on the hobbit an unexpected journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?
1- Yes
2- No

Thanks guys


DanielLB
Immortal


Dec 31 2012, 9:54pm


Views: 1141
I don't get Question 1

Q1 - ? (I didn't have the problem of everything looking sped up)
Q2 - 3 (and just generally fake looking)
Q3 - 2 (no)
Q5 - 1 (yes, *but* only after I've seen it in 24fps)

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(This post was edited by DanielLB on Dec 31 2012, 9:57pm)


Ref
Rivendell


Dec 31 2012, 9:57pm


Views: 1120
RE: afterthecredits

Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up?
2- Until around the end of the dinner sequence

Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?
3- Soap opera - I would say it's a tad too harsh. A rather high standard BBC drama picture quality instead.

Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3d glasses more than regular?
2- No - it was very clear indeed

Question Four - If yes to question three, how often did you have to do this?
N/A

Question Five - Based on the hobbit an unexpected journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?
2- No - I'll be sticking with 24 fps me/

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Eruwestial37
Rohan

Dec 31 2012, 10:00pm


Views: 1127
I'll Bite!

1) Only at the start. I expected it to look different so it didn't bother me to adapt to it. I've seen it twice, both times in 48fps.
2) 1-Realistic. Like watching a play on the best stage possible.
3) A couple of times the first times I saw it, I had to tale the glasses off. I was getting a headache. My fault as I had chosen a seat less than halfway to the screen. This was in an Ultrascreen theatre which is three stories tall. I sat further back the next time and had no trouble.
I look forward to seeing all the films in 48 fps, as well as seeing the first one again the same way. Loved it.
By the way, I'm 59 and still had no trouble adapting to this new fangled format!


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patrickk
Rohan

Dec 31 2012, 10:04pm


Views: 1110
Ma Answers


Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up? It did not look sped upat all
1- Only at the start
2- Untill arounf the end of the dinner sequence
3- Untill about halfway through
4- The whole way through.
5. None of the Above

Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?
1- Realistic
2- Video game
3- Soap opera
4- Sports game
5- Any other

Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3d glasses more than regular?
1- Yes
2- No

Question Four - If yes to question three, how often did you have to do this?
1- Frequently
2- Only occasionally
3- Once or twice.

Question Five - Based on the hobbit an unexpected journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?
1- Yes
2- No

Thanks guys



belfalas
Bree

Dec 31 2012, 10:24pm


Views: 1103
Properly good 3D presentation, 48fps welcome

Q1 - 1
Q2 - 1
Q3 - 2
Q5 - 1


dubulous
Rohan

Dec 31 2012, 10:34pm


Views: 1077
Answers

Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up?
I'm afraid I can't answer this with any of the options because to me it didn't look sped up at all. The first time I saw it in 48fps I only remembered about halfway through the prologue that it even was in 48fps and then I still didn't notice a difference.

Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?
5- Any other (I don't know how to describe it really. Something between realistic and a fantasy world, just as it should be)

Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3d glasses more than regular?
2- No

Question Four - If yes to question three, how often did you have to do this?
-

Question Five - Based on the hobbit an unexpected journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?
1- Yes (I wouldn't necessarily seek it out because to me there wasn't really much difference at all, but I'd have no reason to avoid it either)



N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Dec 31 2012, 10:38pm


Views: 1083
My answers.

Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up?
0- Never. Has that been an issue?

Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?
3- Soap opera (on a View Master)

Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3D glasses more than regular?
2- No (but this was my first 3D film, so I have no "regular" for comparison)


Question Four - If yes to question three, how often did you have to do this?
n/a

Question Five - Based on The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?
2- No (nor in any 3D)


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kingkongkessler
Registered User

Dec 31 2012, 10:53pm


Views: 1060
My answers

1. It didn't
2. Realistic
3. No
4. DOes not apply
5. Yes & I would prefer every movie from now on to use HFR


Aitieuriskon
Lorien


Dec 31 2012, 11:09pm


Views: 1050
Answers

Question One: N/A; didn't feel sped up at all
Question Two: 1 for the most part, with some CGI effects looking more fake
Question Three: 2
Question Four: N/A
Question Five: 1

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Eleniel
Tol Eressea


Dec 31 2012, 11:10pm


Views: 1051
Hope this helps...

Q1 - Didn't notice this problem at all, though the Erebor sequence did have a lot of fast camera work!
Q2 - 3 - too realistic and voyeuristic!
Q3 - 2
Q5 - 2 No, but I'd be interested to see AUJ in 2D HFR just to see if it is better, and whether it's simply 3D that put me off (don't think so!)


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Escapist
Gondor


Dec 31 2012, 11:14pm


Views: 1039
survey says ...

Q1 1
Q2 3
Q3 2
Q5 1


Rostron2
Gondor


Dec 31 2012, 11:36pm


Views: 1027
Survey

Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up?
1- Only at the start


Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?
1- Realistic


Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3d glasses more than regular?

2- No

Question Four - If yes to question three, how often did you have to do this?
N/A

Question Five - Based on the hobbit an unexpected journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?
1- Yes



Ataahua
Forum Admin / Moderator


Dec 31 2012, 11:36pm


Views: 1033
That's quite a leading first question.

Question One - never.

Question Two - Realistic

Question Three - No

Question Five - Yes (actually, in both 48fps and the usual 24fps, as I did this time).

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Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
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whitetree
The Shire


Dec 31 2012, 11:57pm


Views: 1005
My answers...

Q! - It never looked sped up to me.
Q2 - Realistic
Q3 - No, not at all.
Q4 - N/A
Q5 - Yes, absolutely - can't wait!


Kimtc
Rohan

Jan 1 2013, 1:00am


Views: 978
My answers

 
Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up?

N/A--never looked sped up to me.

Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?
1- Realistic


Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3d glasses more than regular?

2- No

Question Five - Based on the hobbit an unexpected journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?
1- Yes (and this time I won't bother to see 24 fps first. Not necessary).


Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jan 1 2013, 1:02am


Views: 988
My answers

Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up?
5- None of the above - it never looked sped up to me.

Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?
1- Realistic - It was actually the "stereoscope/layered" effect of the 3D that made it look less-than real to me at times, not the 48fps.


Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3d glasses more than regular?
2- No, I had no eye strain at all.

Question Four - If yes to question three, how often did you have to do this?
N/A

Question Five - Based on the hobbit an unexpected journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?
1- Yes


Silverlode






(This post was edited by Silverlode on Jan 1 2013, 1:05am)


Hamfast
Rohan


Jan 1 2013, 1:14am


Views: 975
Here you go...

1- Didn't look sped up at all...
2- 1 ( realistic )
3- 2 ( no )
4- (n/a)
5- 1 ( I will go see all Hobbit movies in several formats, but movies I will only see once in the theater....I will only go to the 48fps IMAX if it's offered )


(This post was edited by Hamfast on Jan 1 2013, 1:15am)


sharpened_graphite
Rivendell

Jan 1 2013, 1:23am


Views: 967
Hi! My Answers:

Questions One - 1: Only at the very beginning, and very slightly at that. Just a few seconds of Bilbo alone at Bag End and the Erebor prologue.

Question Two - 5: Not very different from 24 FPS, really. Slightly smoother movement, better clarity. Not any more realistic than other movies shown at the cinema. No adverse soap opera/video-game/sports effect.

Question Three - 2: Actually made the 3D less annoying/more watchable. Less flicker and eye strain.

Question Five - 1: Yes, definitely.


ryouko
Lorien

Jan 1 2013, 1:28am


Views: 963
answers

Q1. I noticed it when Bilbo was first walking around his house, but it was very brief and there were no problems after that. Besides, I thought my mind was playing tricks on me, so I let it go.

Q2. Looked realistic to me. As I stated in another post, I felt like I was standing on the stage watching a play happen around me.

Q3. No problems here.

Q5. Yes, but I'll likely see it in 24 first. I'll probably be seeing it first with my best friend and his wife, and I doubt they'll want to see it in 48. But I WILL see it in 48. ^_^


Joe-Mathews
Rivendell


Jan 1 2013, 1:30am


Views: 958
...

1. 5 (Did not look sped up at all)
2. 1 (but somewhat over-saturated)
3. 2
4. N/A
5. 1

Several 3D movies have made me queasy in the past. I didn't feel any discomfort at all with the 48fps 3D of The Hobbit.

I cannot tell if the over-saturation was due to the 48fps, 3D, or just Peter Jackson's choice. I've noticed this with other 3D films not in 48fps.

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entmaiden
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jan 1 2013, 1:43am


Views: 968
I had to insert a couple additional options

since your responses didn't fit my experience. I get the impression you have a pre-established bias that 48fps is troublesome, but in my case I thought it was great!



Just reply to the thread and write down the question number with the answer number. Thanks.

Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up?

5 - Never.

Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?
1- Realistic

Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3d glasses more than regular?

2- No

Question Four - If yes to question three, how often did you have to do this?
4 - N/A

Question Five - Based on the hobbit an unexpected journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?
1- Yes - absolutely!



Finrod
Rohan


Jan 1 2013, 1:57am


Views: 980
Have you stopped beating your husband yet?


In Reply To
Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up?
1- Only at the start
2- Untill arounf the end of the dinner sequence
3- Untill about halfway through
4- The whole way through.


Absolutely never, and I truly have no earthly idea what anybody is talking about here. Nothing ever looked “sped up”. The problem is, you didn’t even allow for that possible answer in your questionnaire. So all these are just about us weighting your answers, not giving our own. Doesn’t seem very useful.

There were scenes that looked drastically different in the 48-fps vs the 24-fps versions. One was when they cut the ropes and the goblins swinging on the ropes swung around in an ever-tightening and ever-quickening loop about the same central piece. That looked kinda “yeah ok, whatever” in the 24-fps version compared with how it looked in the 48-fps version. The fast version was awesome.

On the other hand, the 3D was certainly supremely annoying at first, which is something else altogether. It got less obtrusive after a while, but would sometimes come back with a bother. A few times it was cool, many times it was get-outta-my-face-and-back-into-the-story. It’s one thing to get the occasional pop-up Christmas card, but when every single illustrated storybook you own starts dangling out at you like some hootananny jack-in-the-box, it is just too gimmicky for good storytelling.

…all eyes looked upon the ring; for he held it now aloft, and the green jewels gleamed there that the Noldor had devised in Valinor. For this ring was like to twin serpents, whose eyes were emeralds, and their heads met beneath a crown of golden flowers, that the one upheld and the other devoured; that was the badge of Finarfin and his house.
The Silmarillion, pp 150-151
while Felagund laughs beneath the trees
in Valinor and comes no more
to this grey world of tears and war.
The Lays of Beleriand, p 311




imin
Valinor


Jan 1 2013, 2:04am


Views: 950
answers from me :)

1. Looked sped up to me at random times throughout the movie, didnt take me out of the movie but i noticed it to some degree.

2. realistic

3. no.

5. yes.

This was seen on IMAX HFR if that makes any difference.


mefansmum
Rivendell

Jan 1 2013, 2:44am


Views: 1128
Loved the 3DHFR.

1 - 1 - maybe but was not really aware of it. The only things I noticed at the start were spacial things I have noticed in other 3D movies as well so I don't think it was anything to do with HFR.
2 - 1 - never played video game or sports game, don't watch soap's. Could not relate it to anything else.
3 - 2
4
5 - 1

Have seen 2D and loved the clarity and being in there with them feel of 3DHFR.


(This post was edited by mefansmum on Jan 1 2013, 2:50am)


Kendalf
Rohan


Jan 1 2013, 2:58am


Views: 1007
A big thumbs-up here!


In Reply To

Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up?
1- Only at the start: Bilbo rummaging in his chest

Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?
1- Realistic: The clarity is sensational

Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3d glasses more than regular?
2- No: Not once

Question Four - If yes to question three, how often did you have to do this?
N/A

Question Five - Based on the hobbit an unexpected journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?
1- Yes: Most certainly. I hope the next two films are as widely available in HFR in spite of many critics' reception...


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Vaire
The Shire


Jan 1 2013, 4:43am


Views: 993
Answers

Q1 - 1
Just takes 5-10 minutes to get used to it. I saw it a second time in HD a couple of weeks later and did not need any "adjustment time" on the second viewing.

Q2 - 1

Q3 - 2

Q4 - 3
Just because the glasses are uncomfortable, nothing to do with what's on screen.

Q5 - 1
What I would really like is to see it in 48fps 2D, unfortunately my local cinema is not showing this combination of formats. I wear glasses normally, and having to wear those chunky plastic 3D frames over the top is a pain.


arithmancer
Grey Havens

Jan 1 2013, 5:26am


Views: 987
my answers

Question One - It didn't look "sped up" at all.

Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?
1- Realistic
I would use a word like crisp or sharp actually, but I think this is what you mean by realistic.

Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3d glasses more than regular?
2- No
On the contrary, I found it easier to watch than other 3D movies I have seen, or than the 24 FPS 3D version of AUJ, which I had seen previously.

Question Four - If yes to question three, how often did you have to do this? n/a

Question Five - Based on the hobbit an unexpected journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?
1- Yes


Esmond
The Shire

Jan 1 2013, 7:59pm


Views: 968
Liked it

Q1) 1

Q2) 1

Q3) 2

Q5) 1


totoro
Lorien

Jan 2 2013, 1:16am


Views: 961
Q1 is a little off

Q1: 1 (though it wasn't exactly "sped up")
Q2: 3 (soap opera)
Q3: 2 (no)
Q4: n/a
Q5: 1 (yes)

In Reply To
Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up?
1- Only at the start
2- Untill arounf the end of the dinner sequence
3- Untill about halfway through
4- The whole way through.

Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?
1- Realistic
2- Video game
3- Soap opera
4- Sports game
5- Any other

Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3d glasses more than regular?
1- Yes
2- No

Question Four - If yes to question three, how often did you have to do this?
1- Frequently
2- Only occasionally
3- Once or twice.

Question Five - Based on the hobbit an unexpected journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?
1- Yes
2- No

Thanks guys



Steerpike
Bree


Jan 2 2013, 4:35am


Views: 965
The movie -> thumbs up..... 48fps -> thumbs down...

Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up?

Didn't look sped up at all.

Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?

3- Soap opera

Sets looked like sets; outdoor scenes looked like they were shot in my backyard. The whole thing looked cheap and tacky. Instead of drawing me into Middle-earth the high visual fidelity just brought Middle-earth characters into the real world, where they do not belong and just look silly. I saw it a second time in 24fps and absolutely loved it - Middle-earth looked like Middle-earth again.

Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3d glasses more than regular?

2- No

Question Four - If yes to question three, how often did you have to do this?

N/A

Question Five - Based on the hobbit an unexpected journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?

2- No

I'm sure higher frames rates will be a valuable tool for film makers. If they just use them on the fast action shots to smooth out the movement or just for movies set in the real world and the present day then I guess that might work. But for an other-worldly fantasy setting I'm afraid it didn't work for me and just served as a constant reminder of the artifice of the situation.



Owain
Tol Eressea


Jan 2 2013, 5:04am


Views: 955
Response to 48fps questions

1. Never
2. Realistic
3. No
4. Did NOT have to take them off
5. Yes I will go see the movies in both 24 and 48fps because they provided me different experiences that I really enjoyed.

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Noria
Gondor

Jan 2 2013, 1:29pm


Views: 945
48 fps was great

Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up?
Never

Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?
1- Realistic

Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3d glasses more than regular?
2- No

Question Four - If yes to question three, how often did you have to do this?
N/A

Question Five - Based on the hobbit an unexpected journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?
1- Yes


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jan 2 2013, 3:47pm


Views: 938
Loved it! My answers:

Question One: 1

Question Two: 1

Question Three: 2

Question Four: N/A

Question Five: 1

I really don't understand the negative responses, it was better in every way! Much more comfortable to watch than standard 3D. Even when the logo's came up I whispered to my friend "It looks better already!" and they agreed.


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jan 2 2013, 3:53pm


Views: 945
Did you see it 48fps first?

Everyone who doesn't like it seemed to have seen 48fps first... whereas those who saw 24fps first seem to love it! Crazy I honestly cannot fault how it looked at all. Every discernible difference was a benefit. I don't see how the CGI looked any different than in 24fps, either?

Not saying you're wrong, but I think maybe you should give another go? I saw it in a VUE cinema. Maybe the IMAX screenings are different?


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 2 2013, 4:04pm


Views: 947
Kassandros is testing that theory here


In Reply To
Everyone who doesn't like it seemed to have seen 48fps first... whereas those who saw 24fps first seem to love it! Crazy I honestly cannot fault how it looked at all. Every discernible difference was a benefit. I don't see how the CGI looked any different than in 24fps, either?

Not saying you're wrong, but I think maybe you should give another go? I saw it in a VUE cinema. Maybe the IMAX screenings are different?


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I loved the clarity of the HFR - especially in the landscape shots. I also appreciated that lack of blur in the HFR version after seeing it in 2D the day after. As a whole though, I do think it cheapens some of the CGI (I have no problems with it looking sped up - that's not an issue.) It makes the CGI look like CGI - it's not seamless (such as Smaug's fire).

I do think that HFR will improve in time though. I saw AUJ in HFR on the opening day, and a couple of days ago (at the same cinema, on the same screen). What I noticed the second time round was that the pictures weren't aligned properly - I don't know how to describe it, but you could see the outline of the picture on the left of the screen. Perhaps my dislike of HFR is down to both personal taste, and the cinema not using/showing it properly?

I did like the HFR a lot more second time round, but the problems still existed. I won't see TDOS and TABA in HFR to start with, but will definitely give it a go. I've not given up on the technology, it just isn't for me.

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QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jan 2 2013, 4:15pm


Views: 946
My other question...

Just voted on that poll, thanks.

My other question, did you see it in an IMAX or something different? Because the VUE (Plymouth) one, honestly, was completely flawless. My girlfriend said at the end "that was the best thing I've ever seen" We'd seen the 24fps version previously. (A day before official release, coz we're cool like that Tongue) This version was so much more superior that I'm really confused how people can;t like it? My mind boggles.

Only "complaint" I don't think this is really a problem, but there was a sped-up sensation in shots with no reference to speed of movement. (E.G. a close-up of Bilbo's hand grabbing something with nothing else in shot) Because there's no visual reference of how fast his hand is moving, and because we're used to 24fps, your mind assumes it's going really fast. But that's not a problem with the tech, that's a problem with my brain and after a few mins it stopped happening, so I suppose I adjusted pretty quick. Smile


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 2 2013, 4:19pm


Views: 945
No, it wasn't an IMAX

It was just a normal Cineworld (with a 4k projector "apparently" , but people on here have suggested that no cinema has a 4k projector). I must say though, that the best screening I saw was at IMAX - unfortunately, there is no IMAX HFR near me (I only saw it at an IMAX when I was visiting a friend). Perhaps that is the best to go to?

It ultimately comes down to personal taste. We'll all adjust to it eventually. Sly

P.S - You saw an advanced screening?! Lucky you.

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QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jan 2 2013, 4:36pm


Views: 972
Um.. VUE Plymouth has a 4K projector.

I asked and the man said "I have no idea" and got this other guy to talk to me. He told me most UK VUE cinemas have Sony 4K projectors now and all of these are capable of showing 48fps, but only a few are doing it because it's expensive to ship it to all the cinemas. They're planning on doing DOS as a download rather than a hard drive next year, so more cinemas will be showing it.


lyndomiel
Rivendell

Jan 2 2013, 10:00pm


Views: 1278
Saw it yesterday in RPX - Regal's version of IMAX 3-D w/ Atmos sound

I loved it - and so did my husband who had not seen it in 2-D first! In fact - I liked the film even better in this format. Unlike what many have said, I thought the early scenes looked far better in 48fps. The best 3-D viewing I have ever experienced. Never had to take off the glasses - no headaches - not too dark. I understand that they used two projectors which created a brighter image. Perhaps it depends upon the type of projection - IMAX vs. RPX, etc.

Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up?

5. NEVER.

Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?
1- Realistic - truly 3 dimensional even when they were not trying to project out to the audience. Gorgeous from the first moment.


Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3d glasses more than regular?

2- No - as I said, it was fabulous

Question Four - If yes to question three, how often did you have to do this?
1- Frequently
2- Only occasionally
3- Once or twice.

Question Five - Based on the hobbit an unexpected journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?
1- Yes - a many times as I can afford at $20 a pop (NYC prices)




pandoraziki
Rivendell

Jan 3 2013, 5:12pm


Views: 927
OK

1. 1 - for about 3 seconds
2. 1 - realistic
3. 2 - nope
4. n/a
5. 1 - absolutely


Chainsaw Charlie
Bree


Jan 3 2013, 9:04pm


Views: 924
I mostly loved it.

Question One - How long did the 48fps look sped up?

Never.

Question Two - How would you describe the look of 48fps?

Stage theatre.

Question Three - As a result of the 48fps did you tear up, need to look away from the screen or have to take off 3d glasses more than regular?

No

Question Four - If yes to question three, how often did you have to do this?

N/A

Question Five - Based on the hobbit an unexpected journey, would you go and see the upcoming hobbit sequels in 48fps?

Yes.


Chainsaw Charlie
Bree


Jan 3 2013, 9:23pm


Views: 942
Not perfect, but I am impressed.


In Reply To
What I noticed the second time round was that the pictures weren't aligned properly - I don't know how to describe it, but you could see the outline of the picture on the left of the screen. Perhaps my dislike of HFR is down to both personal taste, and the cinema not using/showing it properly?


My personal taste is for old film grain. (I'm an archaic photographer who still shoots transparencies as well as film, and makes prints by hand in a darkroom.) Having said that, I'm also a lifelong fan of Viewmaster. I can only comment on my own personal viewing experience - I saw the HFR and was situated almost precisely in the middle of the cinema - ideal viewing perspective. My judgment: the image was perfect. There was no ghosting. It was incredibly sharp and detailed. I was not aware of an image being projected onto a screen. It often felt to me that I was sitting at the edge of a stage watching actors. They looked incredibly realistic. The CGI was often a different story - they didn't always look realistic, but the focus and registration was still very tight, and in the case of Azog, I didn't think him a CGI creature at all, he looked to me more like really good clay-animation model with very smooth natural movement.

It's possible that the cinema projector you saw the movie had bad registration (like a badly set Viewmaster slide) or terrible focus - or it's possible that the picture might have been affected by where you sit in the cinema, but that's purely my conjecture. I can't say. All I know is the print - errrr, file - image I saw looked incredible.


(This post was edited by Chainsaw Charlie on Jan 3 2013, 9:27pm)


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 3 2013, 9:37pm


Views: 996
Ghosting is a good way of describing the effect!

I was sat in a middle row, in the middle - probably one of the best seats possible. So I don't think it was down to that. I assume it was down to the projection (there's no other reasonable explanation).

Hopefully by the next film, cinemas will be more experienced with HFR and the new technology.

It probably wasn't that obvious to the average movie-goer.

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