Shagrat
Gondor
Nov 22 2012, 12:38pm
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Thoughts on Apparent Film Changes to Dwarven History (Spoilers)
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So we already knew about this change of Thrain being captured in Moria as he and Balin lead an expedition to reclaim Khazad-Dum. Now it emerged last night from the WETA book that Thror would appear to be taking part in the Battle of Azanulbizar (or Battle of Moria as it appears to be termed). I believe this tallies with what Richard Armitage said in an interview about Thror being decapitated or killed in battle by Azog. This is obviously another fairly big change. Thror's death will probably substitute for Nain's, and serve as a catalyst for a Dwarven push - on the soundtrack we hear some sad music before the pounding version of 'Thorin's Theme' with chanting behind it, as though he is leading the Dwarves in a charge. Of course that's just my interpretation of the music - it might be set to something completely different. Personal feelings about these changes aside, I'm wondering how the film will reconcile these events. In one of the Vlogs we see Thorin and Thrain leading troops into combat, but this is almost certainly at Erebor given the architecture in the background, and so presumably during Smaug's attack. That got me wondering if they might change things so that Smaug's attack happened later, but I don't think this will be the case, since the track 'My Dear Frodo' contains what appears to be 'Smaug's Theme' at a relatively early stage. This would suggest that Thror might merely sit this one out. Plus we then have that footage of what appears to be Thror among Dwarven refugees. I suspect it might be here where Thrain loses an eye rather than at Azanulbizar, if he does at all. Now I'm wondering if Thrain might take Thror's role in igniting the Dwarven conflict with the Goblins. Not in the sense that it'll be him killed and have 'AZOG' carved into his forehead, but that it is then he and Balin lead an expedition to Moria but Thrain is captured while Balin manages to escape and return to the tale, perhaps taking the role of Nar. Then it is Thror who leads the Dwarves to Moria in an effort to reclaim or avenge Thrain. Perhaps Thorin is even crowned following the victory. Admittedly we have the issue of Thror's map and key - perhaps Thrain would take them and they'd be later found in Moria by Gandalf, providing he does indeed not encounter Thrain at Dol Guldur prior to the timeline of the films. But otherwise I struggle to see A) How they would explain the origins of the Dwarf-Goblin war without Thror's proper demise and B) Why Thrain and Balin would return to Moria so soon after Azanulbizar, especially if they adhere to the book in having a Dwarf (probably not Dain) sight the Balrog after the battle. Anyway these are just my thoughts. I can't help but think they have only complicated things by changing the fates of Thror and Thrain, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it all pans out. This all hinges on whether or not these tie-in books are correct. Things may have changed since they were written.
(This post was edited by Shagrat on Nov 22 2012, 12:39pm)
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