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The One Ring Forums: Tolkien Topics: Movie Discussion: The Hobbit:
New Images and Hobbit Sculpture

MrGandalf
The Shire

Nov 9 2012, 4:54am

Views: 3104

New Images and Hobbit Sculpture

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/culture/7928739/Hobbit-sculpture-to-top-Embassy-this-weekend

-New images are on the left, 2nd slot down.
(they are mixed in with some older ones)

edit: sorry! not sure how to create a clickable link yet

(This post was edited by MrGandalf on Nov 9 2012, 4:56am)

MrGandalf
The Shire

Nov 9 2012, 4:57am

Views: 2110

Link to photos

http://www.stuff.co.nz/lightbox/dominion-post/news/photos/7700505/The-Hobbit-An-Unexpected-Journey?KeepThis=true

Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 9 2012, 5:03am

Views: 1899

That goblin looks great

Is it Grinnah?

thomasofrohan
Lorien

Nov 9 2012, 5:05am

Views: 1874

Which one?

I don't think either one of the goblins shown here is Grinnah. Their faces look too different from what we've seen of him.

The White Council building looks great.

Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 9 2012, 5:08am

Views: 1907

Liking the White Council spot

Rather Greco-Roman, actually...

Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 9 2012, 5:15am

Views: 1848

I didn't realize that your two links went to different places

So I initially only saw one of the goblins!

In any event, I think I am going to enjoy the Goblin Town scenes, at least on a visual level. These guys are so much more interesting than the LOTR orcs, IMO. Glad PJ felt he could play around a bit, and color outside his own lines.

MrGandalf
The Shire

Nov 9 2012, 5:21am

Views: 1814

sorry about that!

I was originally trying to just link to the new images, but had no luck in that. Frown

so i just linked to the whole article about the sculpture, with the images on the side.

Lissuin
Valinor

Nov 9 2012, 6:35am

Views: 1815

clickable link:

Quote: "sorry! not sure how to create a clickable link yet"

Shirehorse was kind enough to help me with that, so I'll pass it on:

Type url and /url in square brackets [ ]
at the beginning and end of your link, no spaces.

Welcome, MrGandalf, and thanks for the post!

(This post was edited by Lissuin on Nov 9 2012, 6:37am)

MrGandalf
The Shire

Nov 9 2012, 6:44am

Views: 1784

Thanks!

Here is a clickable link to the images Smile

http://www.stuff.co.nz/...ourney?KeepThis=true

Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 9 2012, 7:07am

Views: 1713

Or

Simply highlight a word, click on the "chain link" icon on the top right of the message field, paste the URL in, and click 'submit!'

DarkJackal
Rohan

Nov 9 2012, 7:36am

Views: 1707

A rather handsome goblin isn't he?

Did I just type that??

The Hobbit Photo Gallery

DanielLB
Immortal

Nov 9 2012, 7:51am

Views: 1654

All awesome! /

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DanielLB
Immortal

Nov 9 2012, 7:52am

Views: 1662

Does it look the final shot to you?

There's something about it that doesn't look quite right. It looks more like a behind the scenes shot, than a still from the film. Just me?

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DanielLB
Immortal

Nov 9 2012, 7:53am

Views: 1658

I've called the psychiatrist for you ;-) /

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RaoulJ
Rivendell

Nov 9 2012, 9:34am

Views: 1597

Maybe because of the aspect ratio?

It is a shot from the finished footage, it is for sure no BTS-shot because it is color corrected, and the building is CGI'd/not real.

Carne
Tol Eressea

Nov 9 2012, 10:32am

Views: 1572

The second goblin is Grinnah, yes.

Malveth
Rivendell

Nov 9 2012, 1:59pm

Views: 1511

Ugh..

I am astonished by how repentantly ugly everything in this movie looks. Unlike LotR's, which was at least pretty good looking, TH actually looks like it was made by the director of "Dead Alive" and "Meet The Feebles". Everything I've seen of this movie turns my stomach. I cannot wait until this fool runs out of legal material to work with (destroy) and these films fade into the dust.

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/11/09/64936-more-spoiler-imagery-from-the-hobbit/#

(This post was edited by Malveth on Nov 9 2012, 2:01pm)

Estel78
Tol Eressea

Nov 9 2012, 2:32pm

Views: 1409

So.... you don't like it?

Btw, isn't it against the forum rules to call the filmmakers derogatory terms?

Jago M
Bree

Nov 9 2012, 2:57pm

Views: 1373

An inappropriate post IMO

There's no 'flag' function on theonering.net though :)

What I still don't understand are people who clearly decided they don't like anything about these films, but still come here and even take time to look at every new tidbit and 'en plus' take the time to even comment each and every time how much they dislike it :) stange hobbit eeeeh hAbbit!

Oscarilbo
Lorien

Nov 9 2012, 3:00pm

Views: 1335

well...

I guess it is a blessing nobody will force you to watch it then, it may be an awfully waste of time in your life.

Thank God for many of us, watching it will be our blessing.

"The World is Changed, I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air"

Jago M
Bree

Nov 9 2012, 3:03pm

Views: 1435

Looks great!

The goblins look great! Ugly little b*stards :)
I don't really like the white council shot, but thats because I didn't really liked the Rivendell-look in lotr also: too 'pastel' I think :)

(This post was edited by Jago M on Nov 9 2012, 3:06pm)

Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 9 2012, 3:41pm

Views: 1327

Agreed

In general, the look of Rivendell is awful. It's like a painting by Thomas Kincaid (blech) of a cheesy theme hotel in Las Vegas. Something really kitsch about it.

Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 9 2012, 4:05pm

Views: 1299

Ugh

Those goblins are hideous - almost like - now, what's the word? Ah yes, goblins.

We will be hearing about ugly trolls next...

A Far Dragon is the best kind...

Malveth
Rivendell

Nov 9 2012, 4:15pm

Views: 1303

Everything looks ugly...

To my eyes. Radagast looks ugly, the Dwarves look ugly, the whole world looks grimy and ugly.

Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 9 2012, 4:17pm

Views: 1293

No doubt in contrast to the real world,

where everything is beautiful and clean...

A Far Dragon is the best kind...

Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

Nov 9 2012, 4:19pm

Views: 1399

It may be the world

It may be the eyes.

LR

Malveth
Rivendell

Nov 9 2012, 4:25pm

Views: 1142

If it's my eyes...

They were trained by Tolkien's text.

Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

Nov 9 2012, 4:27pm

Views: 1112

Ah you got the fancy copy

Where the letters get smaller as they go down the page.

LR

Lusitano
Tol Eressea

Nov 9 2012, 5:11pm

Views: 1085

Psst

( opens a bottle, pours a glass of rather strong wine)

Lissuin
Valinor

Nov 9 2012, 5:35pm

Views: 1095

You are a funny one.

And I'll take a glass of that stuff. Those goblins do look appropriately disgusting. Ugh, indeed.

But at least I'll have Rivendell. Cheers, SA! Wink

Lusitano
Tol Eressea

Nov 9 2012, 5:43pm

Views: 1050

Thanks Lissuin

I felt our comrade could use a drink. Tongue

Here, have a glass of this six year old baby...

I think mashed potato goblin and cute coblin are fantastic.
New, different, fairytalish...ideal.

The Rivendell pic is quite lovely. Nice, soft arquitechture. And is it sundown or sunrise? Looks like sundown...guess the meeting shall be longer than expected.

Perhaps Radagast shall be brought in to answer for his animal brutality against hedgehogs Laugh

Malveth
Rivendell

Nov 9 2012, 5:46pm

Views: 1045

I guess...

I just have a natural loathing of Peter Jackson's style.

Elenorflower
Gondor

Nov 9 2012, 6:16pm

Views: 1055

I made you a shopped version SA,

As I agree about your comments about Rivendell. Hope you like it. Evil

thomasofrohan
Lorien

Nov 9 2012, 6:32pm

Views: 1022

Prefer the original version

But I think Rivendell looks absolutely stunning in the trilogy (I sort of get the Kinkade comparison, but I think the brighter pastels in the trilogy work very well, and the world-class art team from the original films had more talent in the pinky finger of one of their members than Kinkade ever did), with truly incredible art direction and background work, so I guess I'm biased to prefer the original look. :}

(This post was edited by thomasofrohan on Nov 9 2012, 6:36pm)

Lissuin
Valinor

Nov 9 2012, 6:39pm

Views: 1005

re: mashed potato goblin

It seems Gothmog was just a teaser from those guys and gals at Weta. That's why the elves hide out in solitary splendour; Middle-earth is a scary, gross place at times! I'm glad you'll enjoy the goofy goblins, but it looks like I'll be sitting with my eyes shut a lot in this one, too. At least I've got the Shire and the Last Homely House to look forward to.

Radagast will be exonerated of hedgehog harming, mark my words.
Sly

thomasofrohan
Lorien

Nov 9 2012, 6:40pm

Views: 1011

"Ugly"? So...they actually look like goblins who spend the majority of their time underground

Wonderful! I guess the designs are effective if they made your stomach turn.

(This post was edited by thomasofrohan on Nov 9 2012, 6:40pm)

Malveth
Rivendell

Nov 9 2012, 6:44pm

Views: 986

I mean...

The whole ugly looking movie. Just about everything looks dreary and miserable to me. Jackson, who seems to be slightly colorblind, spares us the digital tinting (or "grading") and de-saturation of LotR's but compensates by loading the screen with monotonous, bland colors and ugly designs. Maybe I should amend and say I think the designs are stupid and bad? That might even be closer to my true opinion.

(This post was edited by Malveth on Nov 9 2012, 6:44pm)

Lusitano
Tol Eressea

Nov 9 2012, 7:05pm

Views: 966

stupid and bad

Lusitano
Tol Eressea

Nov 9 2012, 7:09pm

Views: 972

We havent seen nothing yet!

I sense, form my one second peak at Brass Buttons, that goblin town will haunt me in my nightmares.

Be carefull indeed...many scary places...watch out for flying 3D Great Goblin poop Sly

Lets hope he is! I suspect he already intends to overworked them at the battle of dol guldur...he ll show up with an army of sledgehogs, giant bunnies and butterflies Wink

Jago M
Bree

Nov 9 2012, 7:12pm

Views: 937

Actually I prefer your version

:-)
but don't get me wrong: even though I didn't like the look of Rivendell, these pastels, the use of 'flou'-lighting, even unsharp sometimes, the 'kitsch' as SA calls it so elegantly ;)
it suits the place wonderfully so I couldn't bother

LoremIpsum
Lorien

Nov 9 2012, 8:06pm

Views: 930

I never liked Rivendell in the LOTR movies

but this Rivendell looks a bit too much like a matte painting and Peter Jackson developed a strange fondness for salmon-y skies in his recent movies which is not really a look I terribly like.

Elenorflower
Gondor

Nov 9 2012, 11:12pm

Views: 884

Thomasofrohan well as I made the shopped version

for SA, I hope you dont mind if I dont really care if you like it or not. Cool

heres the original.

(This post was edited by Elenorflower on Nov 9 2012, 11:18pm)

starlesswinter
Lorien

Nov 9 2012, 11:22pm

Views: 849

WHAT?!

Rivendell is beautiful! The architecture itself is gorgeously designed. Maybe the colors and trees give off the impression of a Thomas Kinkade painting, but really...how can an Elvish city in a valley NOT look like a Thomas Kinkade landscape? If it was actually a house as described in the book, it would look even more like Kinkade!

(This post was edited by starlesswinter on Nov 9 2012, 11:25pm)

starlesswinter
Lorien

Nov 9 2012, 11:28pm

Views: 866

But we've only been shown the evil stuff so far! They're supposed to be ugly.

Are trolls, wargs, goblins, and dwarves supposed to be pretty to look at? I'm sure once we get to see the inside of the Lonely Mountain, the Mirkwood Elves architecture, Dale, Laketown, etc....we'll get to see the pretty stuff.

(This post was edited by starlesswinter on Nov 9 2012, 11:28pm)

imin
Valinor

Nov 10 2012, 12:04am

Views: 829

I prefer you image to the real one :) //

Aitieuriskon
Lorien

Nov 10 2012, 12:11am

Views: 884

That warg looks incredible

Thanks for the link!

"After all, I believe that legends and myths are largely made of 'truth', and indeed present aspects of it that can only be received in this mode; and long ago certain truths and modes of this kind were discovered and must always reappear." Professor Tolkien, 1951

Elenorflower
Gondor

Nov 10 2012, 12:30am

Views: 844

thanks imin

thats very kind of you. Evil

the sweet pinkness of the original photo was making me feel queasy. Tongue

(This post was edited by Elenorflower on Nov 10 2012, 12:31am)

imin
Valinor

Nov 10 2012, 12:33am

Views: 869

You're welcome

And that is exactly what was getting me queasy about the original! I'm hoping they colour grade it differently/looks different with 3D glasses on!

Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 10 2012, 4:01am

Views: 822

Better!

I know you don't care if I don't like it, but do you care that I DO? Smile

Elenorflower
Gondor

Nov 10 2012, 3:02pm

Views: 788

yes

I do.

Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 10 2012, 3:37pm

Views: 798

Unrealistic I'm afraid.

A white building illuminated with red light should look red, not white. NB Sunlight is not white, even at high noon, never mind dusk. Only an artificial light could produce that colour.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...

Elenorflower
Gondor

Nov 10 2012, 4:54pm

Views: 784

Only

its not illuminated by red light, thats the whole point. Crazy

Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Nov 10 2012, 7:25pm

Views: 808

w00t!

Strangely, that makes me feel better. Smile

Lissuin
Valinor

Nov 10 2012, 10:03pm

Views: 796

Shelob'sAppetite: how to post a link?

Quote

Simply highlight a word, click on the "chain link" icon on the top right of the message field, paste the URL in, and click 'submit!'

Hmm...I'm tripping over my feet here.
I can highlight a word, but there is no "chain link" icon on the top right of the message field. Do I paste the entire URL in or just click on the url button under the message field? And where do I click "submit"? Do you mean "preview/post reply" or "return"?

Sorry SA. "Simply" does not apply, unfortunately, when it comes to me and computers.
I have an Apple. Does that change things?

Thank you for your patience, ladies and gentlemen. Trying to keep the little grey cells functioning.

Tim
Tol Eressea

Nov 11 2012, 3:34am

Views: 755

I'm astonished that...

... you think it's all ugly. The world is definitely full of diverse opinions.

I think it's all rather beautiful and creative and lovingly detailed. Good job to the whole creative team behind these movies, I say.

-Tim came by. Tim! If you had heard only a quarter of what I have heard about him, and I have only heard very little of all there is to hear, you would be prepared for any sort of remarkable tale.

Tim
Tol Eressea

Nov 11 2012, 3:35am

Views: 737

I like them both. //

-Tim came by. Tim! If you had heard only a quarter of what I have heard about him, and I have only heard very little of all there is to hear, you would be prepared for any sort of remarkable tale.

Eleniel
Tol Eressea

Nov 11 2012, 7:50am

Views: 787

Disguising a link

Lissuin, firstly you need to be using "Advanced Editor" when posting (see the green button below the posting window? Click on that to change between Basic or Advanced Editor)

Then type the word you want to be the link:

Highlight that word - when you do that I find all the icons in the green bar above the posting window kind of flicker and become bolder!

Then click on the "chain" icon which should be the last icon on the right in that green bar,

That will bring up a new little window in which you type the url of whatever you are linking to.

Then click on the submit button attached to that little window.

You should then find that the word you highlighted has changed colour and is underlined to show that a link is attached to it.

Then you can post your reply as usual.

Hope that helps!

"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
� Victoria Monfort

(This post was edited by Eleniel on Nov 11 2012, 7:50am)

Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 11 2012, 8:48am

Views: 756

Yes it is (in the original).

It's illuminated by light from the setting Sun. Which is RED (the blue light is scattered).

Your version looks like it's illuminated by powerful electric arc lights.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...

imin
Valinor

Nov 11 2012, 11:01am

Views: 747

I think what some people dont like about the original

is the sky appears to be too pink compared to what is normal for a red setting sky. Its not to say they dont occur like that, its just not one people see as regularly as a more orange sky.

Of course her photoshop photo is not going to be done to the level of Weta - she is one person with most likely limited software, Weta can do whatever they like.

For me the part i like about the photoshopped one is the colour of the sky is toned down a little bit.

Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 11 2012, 11:23am

Views: 758

I agree.

In Reply To

is the sky appears to be too pink compared to what is normal for a red setting sky. Its not to say they dont occur like that, its just not one people see as regularly as a more orange sky.

I actually painted a picture from a photo I took with exactly that colour sky. I noticed the colour one evening, and decided it would make a good painting. So I went back with my camera. It took a couple of attempts, over several evenings, but I was able to get the same sky again.

But I think people don't get out much at sunset - and you would certainly never see that if you lived in a city or anywhere with street-lights.

That may be a fairly unusual sky, but it certainly happens sometimes. But the photoshopped version is just plain wrong - you only ever see that blue-white light with artificial light sources.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...

(This post was edited by Fardragon on Nov 11 2012, 11:33am)

Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 11 2012, 11:43am

Views: 725

If you want to see that light

You need to actually be able to see the Sun on the horizon, with quite high clouds, so they are illuminated from underneath. You won't see it if the Sun disappears behind buildings or trees before it gets low enough in the sky, My picture was over water, but high up (e.g. in the mountains) should also work.

It helps to be at a fairly northern latitude, in the autumn or winter. The Sun is low in the sky for longer. When I was in Shetland in January exotic skies where the norm.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...

Elenorflower
Gondor

Nov 11 2012, 1:55pm

Views: 712

I think you are rather rude Fardragon

I made that photo for fun, I had no intention of trying to set myself up as an expert, I am self taught and have never had lessons in photoshopping, I only have the use of Photoshop elements 9, which came with the software. I dont have the full version of Photoshop, as my notebook is not powerful enough. and I dont even have a computer, just a small Notebook thingy. The original was IMHO much too pink, I just toned it down somewhat. dont see what your problem is really.

Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 11 2012, 4:11pm

Views: 751

I'm an artist and a physicist

I'm picky about light.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...

Elenorflower
Gondor

Nov 11 2012, 5:02pm

Views: 702

I am picky too

thats why the pink had to go.

Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 11 2012, 8:10pm

Views: 681

But my point is:

The pink is RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Crazy

I don't mean to be insulting, your Photoshop skills are excellent, much better than mine, but you really need to get out and really look at some sunsets.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...

DanielLB
Immortal

Nov 11 2012, 8:16pm

Views: 689

Here is an easy way, Lissuin

Type:

{url "http://link to wherever.net"}Link/Thread/Title*{/url}

But replace {} with [].

Hope that makes sense?

* this bit will turn blue, once your message is posted.

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Elenorflower
Gondor

Nov 11 2012, 10:30pm

Views: 698

I have seen sunsets

from North Africa to the North of Scotland, and I have never seen a bubblegum shocking pink one. I have seen golden ones, orange ones, even pink ones, but strangely none of the saccharine Disney type.

Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

Nov 11 2012, 10:41pm

Views: 671

Hmmm "never" is possibly a bit strong.

Certainly not everyday, but I have certainly seen sunsets with the colours of each of the options in this thread on occasion.

LR

Elenorflower
Gondor

Nov 11 2012, 11:51pm

Views: 692

I havent honestly seen such an unnatural hued sunset before,

I understand that sunsets can have bright reds, yellows and oranges...its the violet violent pink and purples that are not particularly natural. Those (violet pinks and purples) are high-frequency colours, exactly the opposite of the low-frequency orange and reds you usually get after the sun has dropped below the horizon. My point was, orange and red IS natural, but the violet is usually the result of filtration that adds colour cast. and that original photo is a magenta/violet shocking pink. and I dont like it.
and why is it that only Rivendell has those types of sunsets?

(This post was edited by Elenorflower on Nov 11 2012, 11:54pm)

Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

Nov 12 2012, 12:03am

Views: 697

Well certainly

Not liking a shade of sky is entirely a matter of preference and nothing to be questioned there.

If you haven't seen that shade of sunset before then perhaps it appears unnatural but, having seen it myself, it doesn't appear unnatural (and in the cases of really seeing it, it obviously wasn't unnatural) though it is certainly not an everyday sunset.

I don't know if it will be specific to Rivendell and somehow doubt a particular reason will be given. Much as in our world, it may simply be various meteorological factors aligning to produce such a scene.

LR

Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 12 2012, 7:42am

Views: 669

Well, I have seen that exact colour

And painted it too.

But I will tell you what I have never, ever seen (because it's physically impossible): a white one.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...

Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 12 2012, 7:48am

Views: 667

Reason:

In Reply To

and why is it that only Rivendell has those types of sunsets?

It's high up, at a northern latitude, prone to partial high altitude cloud cover, and faces west.

And I can tell you for a fact that Lytham (Lancashire, England) also gets them, as does Shetland.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...

DanielLB
Immortal

Nov 12 2012, 10:30am

Views: 668

Scroll this gallery for a whole host of different sunsets...

Link

Make sure you have selected sunset/sunrise to refine your search.

Look at this!

And yes ... I am a member of the Cloud Appreciation Society.

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(This post was edited by DanielLB on Nov 12 2012, 10:33am)

Elenorflower
Gondor

Nov 12 2012, 9:01pm

Views: 614

The last time I saw a

pink palace like that, Barbie and Ken were living in it. Wink

Fardragon
Rohan

Nov 13 2012, 8:11am

Views: 634

You need to brush up on your Physics

You don't see surfaces, you see the light that is reflected (or scattered) from those surfaces. If a white building is illuminated by a pink light source, it will appear pink. The only way it can appear white is if it is illuminated by a WHITE light source. Which, since the Sun is not white, can only occur with artificial light.

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DanielLB
Immortal

Nov 13 2012, 10:48am

Views: 460

The sun is yellow because of it's black body temperature

But sunlight isn't yellow - it includes all wavelengths at different intensities. Sunlight is effectively "white" since it scatters into the individual wavelengths during precipitation.

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Elenorflower
Gondor

Nov 13 2012, 4:04pm

Views: 456

you need to brush up

on not pushing your luck matey. Sly

Elenorflower
Gondor

Nov 13 2012, 6:12pm

Views: 510

I made this for fun,

I know you are going to hate it fardragon, no doubt the moon is in the eclipse of Uranus or something to do with Physics or Astronomy, but I like it, so there! Tongue