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Should Magpie Make His Own Poll?


Poll: Should Magpie Make His Own Poll?
Yes 7 / 33%
No 8 / 38%
Other 6 / 29%
21 total votes
 

Preciousssss
The Shire


Oct 20 2012, 6:00am


Views: 1120
Should Magpie Make His Own Poll?
 


Elizabeth
Half-elven


Oct 20 2012, 6:37am


Views: 725
What is this about?
In the first place, Magpie is a She. In the second place, why should she make or not make a poll? I have no idea what the question is, let alone how to answer.




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DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 20 2012, 7:10am


Views: 747
This may explain the poll...
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Annael
Immortal


Oct 20 2012, 3:41pm


Views: 809
any time someone uses the word "should"
my back hairs go up. Magpie can do what she wants and no one has the right to dictate to her.
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RoseCotton
Lorien


Oct 21 2012, 6:49am


Views: 738
Should, should, should! ;-) //
 


Aunt Dora Baggins
Immortal


Oct 21 2012, 1:38pm


Views: 712
*mods up*
Agreed. Magpie does an awful lot of excellent work for TORn, and it's presumptuous to suggest that she should do anything else.

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Magpie
Immortal


Oct 21 2012, 1:52pm


Views: 754
for what it's worth...
I think this poll is the result of some good natured joshing that happened in another poll thread. I took it all in the spirit of good humor and didn't react badly to it.

I do kind of wince every time I see 'his'. I am not the most girly, girl but I am a female... as my profile page reveals. :-) But that happens on the internet and it's not the first time I've been called a dude or guy and I've made the same mistake with others.

As far as 'should'... knowing the humor this poll arose from, I didn't take it badly. But for most 'shoulds', I am can be quite ornery... as anyone who has tried to get me to do something I'm not keen to do will know.

And one shouldn't hold their breath waiting for me to start a poll. I won't be using the results of this one to persuade me. :-)

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JWPlatt
Grey Havens


Oct 21 2012, 4:06pm


Views: 703
Breath
In Reply To
And one shouldn't hold their breath waiting...
Really? Now you're using "should[n't]?" I can hold my breath any time I want. LOL.


Starling
Half-elven


Oct 21 2012, 7:59pm


Views: 710
Well,
I don't think the results of this poll will be terribly scientific!
If I didn't know about the previous thread about polls, I would have wondered what on earth was going on here.
By the way can you explain the term 'ornery' to me? I sometimes read it or hear it, but I don't really understand its exact meaning. I know I could use the wonders of the internet to look it up, but I much prefer humans to explain things like this to me.
That's if you don't mind doing something for me! Wink


JWPlatt
Grey Havens


Oct 21 2012, 9:42pm


Views: 766
Ornery
Bad-tempered or stubborn, as in a mule.


Magpie
Immortal


Oct 22 2012, 1:53am


Views: 732
stubborn; contrary in disposition
It seems to have an interesting etymology of which I wasn't aware before I looked around:

Contracted or dialectal pronunciation of ordinary. Commonplace, inferior.

I've never heard it used that way.

I don't like to be coerced or manipulated into doing something I'm not on board with.

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Starling
Half-elven


Oct 22 2012, 8:24am


Views: 653
Ah, interesting
I remember reading the word 'ornery' in a book when I was a child, and I thought it was some sort of American way of saying ordinary, so I was kind of on the right track!
Thanks for the info Magpie.


Starling
Half-elven


Oct 22 2012, 8:26am


Views: 694
Oh,
then that sounds a bit like me. Smile


Magpie
Immortal


Oct 22 2012, 2:19pm


Views: 721
one site defining the word...
...differentiated what it meant by location. Growing up for me, it was definitively a folk, colloquial term. Just like one uses a swear word for a particular accent (one hopes, anyhow... that it isn't a constant stream), words like this were used in my household for particular accent. I also find these sorts of words kind of old fashioned. My dad used them (he was a WWII vet to place him in an era) but I don't hear them so much anymore.

Reading it in a book, one would definitely take cues from the material to put a finer definition on what it was intended to mean.

side note: ever notice how, when Tolkien uses an obscure, archaic word, he tends to define it in the surrounding/following text. So, one might think, 'hun... wonder what that means', look it up, and then realized the definition had already been supplied. I love those subtle touches.

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Sam20
Lorien

Oct 22 2012, 11:40pm


Views: 653
Poll
For no particular reason I vote yes, simply because I think eveyone inclined to make a poll should make it if they want to... May it be Magpie or someone else. Though good ideas of polls that will make people come to vote and share their opinions may not be easy to find. But simple ideas can be surprinsingly sucessful for instance my poll on : ''Which Dragon do you prefer?'' (Glaurung or Smaug). So I'll encourage people to do polls, of course that's what the 'pollantìr' is for.


Ethel Duath
Half-elven


Oct 23 2012, 2:59am


Views: 717
Oh yes, me too! (The archaic words, not being ornery! Too often.)
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Patty
Immortal


Oct 23 2012, 5:42pm


Views: 638
Magpie should..
do as she jolly well pleases.Cool
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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 23 2012, 9:44pm


Views: 589
aha, you got me with that one. ;) //
 


Magpie
Immortal


Oct 23 2012, 9:51pm


Views: 641
and it's likely...
that she will!

Hey, I'm a first born. What can I say?

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Preciousssss
The Shire


Oct 24 2012, 4:41am


Views: 603
Sorry
Blushdid not realize you are a she not a he!Evil


Annael
Immortal


Oct 26 2012, 11:09pm


Views: 789
:)
also a first-born (well, to my dad . . . my half-brother is a lot older than me so we have two in the family). And I'm a real contrarian. Even when I agree with someone, if they tell me I "should" do something, I'm so tempted to do the opposite!

For instance I almost never eat red meat, but I crave steak after a conversation with a vegan.

I am aware that this tendency could make me really easy to manipulate - just tell me I "should" do the opposite of what you want me to do. Crazy
The way we imagine our lives is the way we are going to go on living our lives.

- James Hillman, Healing Fiction

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