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News from Bree
spymaster@theonering.net

Oct 4 2012, 9:46am


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Warner Bros. confirms Hobbit extended edition

Thanks to Ringer Oleander Took for spotting this in the Warner Bros. press release today regarding their 90th anniversary slate of offerings:

"And finally, among the new films you can expect on Blu-ray and DVD in 2013 are The Wachowskis’ Cloud Atlas and – officially confirmed here for the first time – Peter Jackson’s The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey – Extended Edition (Q4). One suspects a theatrical cut will be released earlier in 2013, following the home video release pattern of the previous Lord of the Rings films. And it’s reasonable to suspect that a Blu-ray 3D version will be forthcoming as well."

Great news for Peter Jackson, Tolkien and movie fans everywhere! Join us in the speculation about which scenes will be in the theatrical release and which we'll have to wait for the extended edition to see. Hobbit Discussion board, Barliman's Chat, facebook, TwitterRead More...


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 4 2012, 3:13pm


Views: 1952
YES!

Brilliant, brilliant news!

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elevorn
Lorien


Oct 4 2012, 3:14pm


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RIGHTEOUS!!!!!

 



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Elessar
Valinor


Oct 4 2012, 3:18pm


Views: 1811
Happy Dance!

Ill buy the TE and the of course buy the EE. I love Middle-Earth and this news just makes me so very happy.



Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Oct 4 2012, 3:18pm


Views: 2055
A trilogy AND material to spare?

What could possibly be left out of the theatrical films? Either the versions in theaters are going to be cut down to the bare minimum, or the EE's are going to be about 2 minutes longer.

I suppose we'll probably see some of the Dwarf backstory end up on the EE, some of the material not really essential to the narrative such as Galadriel's monologue about the morgul blade? Perhaps some Dwarf bantering, a bit of Goblin-town and/or Riddles?

I don't know, WB really seem to be milking this.

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Oct 4 2012, 3:20pm)


Tim
Tol Eressea


Oct 4 2012, 3:18pm


Views: 2065
Based on my experience with PJ's LOTR adaptation...

... this is good news.

Cool

King Arthur: You know much that is hidden oh Tim.

Tim: Quite.


Ardamr
Valinor


Oct 4 2012, 3:19pm


Views: 1891
Holy Cow!

I was definitely not expecting this! Not after the trilogy turn.

But what does this mean for our theatrical releases? Will they be short (about 2 hours) like we've been fretting and then be extended.

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


Eleniel
Tol Eressea


Oct 4 2012, 3:19pm


Views: 1715
Wonderful news! //

 


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Tim
Tol Eressea


Oct 4 2012, 3:21pm


Views: 1938
Again based on my experience with PJ's movies

I don't believe The Hobbit movies will be short in running time.

Cool

King Arthur: You know much that is hidden oh Tim.

Tim: Quite.

(This post was edited by Tim on Oct 4 2012, 3:25pm)


Carne
Tol Eressea

Oct 4 2012, 3:24pm


Views: 1718
YES!

I'm so happy now Smile


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Oct 4 2012, 3:24pm


Views: 1976
Actually TH movies are going to be VERY short!

Remember that much of the cast is about 4 feet tall. 8) ;P

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Ardamr
Valinor


Oct 4 2012, 3:25pm


Views: 1812
Agreed.

But then, I never would have told anyone that The Hobbit would end up being three extended films...

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 4 2012, 3:26pm


Views: 1775
There's hope yet for the talking purse! /

 

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Ffnir
Rohan


Oct 4 2012, 3:27pm


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Great !! Who thought we had no room for surprises anymore ? //

 


Sinister71
Tol Eressea


Oct 4 2012, 3:28pm


Views: 1705
Glad to hear we will be getting Extended Editions//

 


Eruonen
Valinor


Oct 4 2012, 3:29pm


Views: 1726
I prefer the EE of the LOTR and will hold for the EE of The Hobbit

as well. I just enjoy the extra material as it usually makes the scenes less abrupt and choppy as is often the case in the edited theatrical releases. Plus, you simply get more of the Middle Earth and characters experience.


Tim
Tol Eressea


Oct 4 2012, 3:31pm


Views: 1761
I can understand that, but to me it's not that surprising.

One of the things that struck me while watching the "making of" doc's for LOTR was that PJ produces huge volumes of material to work from. I expected him to do the same with The Hobbit.

It's really emphasized that PJ is not one of those guys who makes a script then sticks to it, it's all very dynamic and fluid (much to the chagrin, sometimes, of his support staff) and things get added and moved right up until the last minute.

So, mix large volumes of footage with a constant evolution in script and a propensity to make long movies and - voila! - three movies.

This is why it didn't surprise me in the least there were going to be two movies instead of one.

King Arthur: You know much that is hidden oh Tim.

Tim: Quite.


Ardamr
Valinor


Oct 4 2012, 3:33pm


Views: 1826
With an estimated 10 hours of footage we'll be getting

There darn tooting better be room for the purse! Tongue

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


Carne
Tol Eressea

Oct 4 2012, 3:35pm


Views: 1895
This is a tiny bit concerning.

With LOTR I believe they looked at what they had left after the movie was released while now they've probably already decided what to leave out for the extended edition Unsure

This is WB after all so it's not surprising that they would cut a piece of the cake before delivering it...


Ardamr
Valinor


Oct 4 2012, 3:37pm


Views: 1719
I was all prepared for two films.

I was even an avid supporter of two. I just firmly think that three is stretching the story too much.

And just because PJ shoots more than he needs, and the script is never really set, doesn't mean that a final film of 3 hours is always for the best. Sometimes, short and sweet is better than long and drawn out.

(Not saying I want short Hobbit films, just to clear that up)

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


Ardamr
Valinor


Oct 4 2012, 3:40pm


Views: 1724
That's what I'm thinking

This definitely feels like butchering the theatrical release so that they can double dip on an EE.

The LOTR EEs came about because of a massive story trying to be told in three films of three hours each. There was literally no way to put everything in, and even 10 years later we've still not seen everything they filmed.

For The Hobbit, though, they're already drawing out one simple story into three films. And now they're planning on EEs. The whole situation just seems so backward to me.

"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 4 2012, 3:51pm


Views: 1640
Exciting news! Thanks for sharing.//

Smile

Middle Earth is New Zealand!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 4 2012, 3:52pm


Views: 1665
I've been through TORn's newspage

Back to 2001, but I can't find when it (FOTR EE) was first announced, for comparison.

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Ffnir
Rohan


Oct 4 2012, 3:56pm


Views: 1637
Sometimes it is...

But that the one thing we can't affirm before the films come out !


Hanzkaz
Rohan

Oct 4 2012, 3:57pm


Views: 1735
Extended Editions?

 


YES!


Ffnir
Rohan


Oct 4 2012, 4:01pm


Views: 1120
It all depends on the films lenght

because if it's three 3h films again, then the EEs make sense because they would have put as much as they could in the theatrical versions, but still have more material to show.

If these EEs are for three 2h films, then it's the same politic than the DLC for video games, and it's shocking IMO


burgahobbit
Rohan


Oct 4 2012, 4:03pm


Views: 1134
If we are getting 12 hours of film

Like the LOTR trilogy was (or 11.3833 hours to be more precise), then I'm all for this and this is amazing news! :D

But if we have, say, 9 hours of film, that could have been split up into three 3 hour theatrical films (that's a tongue twister), then this becomes simply a money-gainer for WB and makes me disappointed.

Here's to hoping that this trilogy will be as long as LOTR was! Heart Smile


burgahobbit
Rohan


Oct 4 2012, 4:06pm


Views: 1040
Exactly! Well said! //

 


Bombadil
Half-elven


Oct 4 2012, 4:19pm


Views: 1083
Awesome..I believe it's because of the Cast!

When you assemble such a
creative and experienced
Group...that their imput
blooms the possibilities.

I never felt PJ has ever
been a dictator...more
a collaborator with
his actors.

Often we heard things
like. "It was Viggo's idea"
or "Sean thought we should.."

Toss together World-Class talent
This what we Get!!! Yippie WoW!


TheHutt
Gondor


Oct 4 2012, 4:24pm


Views: 1089
Packshot!

And more than that - there is even a packshot available! Cool Evil



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Elenorflower
Gondor


Oct 4 2012, 4:29pm


Views: 990
very exciting news

Heart cool cant wait. hurrah!


WhiskFishercat
Bree


Oct 4 2012, 4:42pm


Views: 1129
PJ wasnt kidding

When he said they are not good and shooting short movies. Great news, the more the merrier. I feel the EE of the LOTR was a real treat for fans, it was almost like seeing a great movie once, and then seeing it all over again in a new way. I loved how it wasnt just 5 or 10 mins extra, but much, much longer. I hope the Hobbit EE is the same way. CANNOT WAIT!


kareniel
Lorien

Oct 4 2012, 5:01pm


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"Oh, frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!" she chortled in her joy. //

 


dave_lf
Gondor

Oct 4 2012, 5:12pm


Views: 1061
To cut or not to cut

It isn't necessarily a matter of having too much material. If you listen to the LotR commentaries, a relatively small number of the extra scenes were cut due to time. Most were cut because:
  • They were redundant or just didn't add anything
  • They messed up the pacing
  • They didn't fit with the tone of the film
  • They damaged characters
  • They weren't very good

I'd say prime candidates for a AUJ EE would be:
  • Dwarf history (and backstory in general)
  • Bilbo hiding from Gandalf at the market. As in FotR, there will probably be pressure to get out the door and onto the road quickly.
  • Individual riddles

They probably will not cut much action (i.e. trolls and Goblin Town), because they never do. Smile


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 4 2012, 5:36pm


Views: 945
I imagine some of the White Council sub-plot would be able for cutting too /

 

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imin
Valinor


Oct 4 2012, 5:37pm


Views: 897
Never doubted they would for a second!

As i have said previously, way too much money to be had for WB not to make them. Everyone got worried for nothing, lol.

I am glad though as generally speaking i prefer the extended editions of the LOTR and so im hoping it will be the same for TH.


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Oct 4 2012, 5:55pm


Views: 926
Just in case, the packshot is fake.

Pretty much my thoughts:


Quote
What could possibly be left out of the theatrical films? Either the versions in theaters are going to be cut down to the bare minimum, or the EE's are going to be about 2 minutes longer.


It's probably gonna be more like King Kong's SEE in terms of added length. Just can't imagine there being that much usable footage.


TheHutt
Gondor


Oct 4 2012, 6:10pm


Views: 888
Of course it's fake!

*proudly*

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TheRealBeren
Rivendell

Oct 4 2012, 6:15pm


Views: 861
meh

And I thought the worst regarding the release of The Hobbit had passed with that half-a***d trilogy.How much lower can peeder jigson bring Bilbo's story still?


(This post was edited by TheRealBeren on Oct 4 2012, 6:17pm)


droidsocket
Lorien

Oct 4 2012, 6:21pm


Views: 861
Really!

Come on!!!


Anyways. Such good news! Never expected we would hear about this before the theater release.


stoutfiles
Rohan

Oct 4 2012, 6:31pm


Views: 890
This means nothing right now

We don't know how long the films are, and how long their EE counterparts are.

If the EE makes it 30-60 min longer, great. If it makes it 5 min longer, it is just an excuse to release another DVD set and make more money. An EE version was all but guaranteed because it makes more money, but we need to see how generous the portion size is.


TheRealBeren
Rivendell

Oct 4 2012, 6:44pm


Views: 818
meh Part 2

What I'm really looking forward to is a future two-part disc edition, after the release of Film 3.peeder might pursue such an attempt after all, once the trilogy proves a total critical failure.So I'm optimistic Evil


(This post was edited by TheRealBeren on Oct 4 2012, 6:45pm)


Eye's on Guard
Lorien


Oct 4 2012, 7:28pm


Views: 869
Comparison with LoTR Extended Editions

Fellowship of the Ring: 3 hours + 30 min = 3.5 hours
The Two Towers: 3 hours + 45 min = 3.75 hours
The Return of the King: 3.33 hours + 1 hour = 4.33 hours

A reasonable expectation for The Hobbit
An Unexpected Journey: 2.5 hours + 15 min = 2.75 hours
The Desolation of Smaug: 2.5 hours + 30 min = 3 hours
There and Back Again: 3 hours + 30 min = 3.5 hours

Don't expect much extra for AUJ unless they make the theatrical too short. The other two however, have the benefit of more filming.


sycorax82
Rohan

Oct 4 2012, 7:33pm


Views: 782
With the trilogy announcement I was sure we were getting the EE this December

Seems I was wrong! Though it could be as little as 10 minutes added to TUJ... I'm still buying, of course!! :D


Ring-Bearer
Rivendell


Oct 4 2012, 8:02pm


Views: 733
There will be more to The Hobbit than meets the eye

Smile

'I will take it! I will take the Ring to Mordor- though, I do not know the way...'
'I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you!'


Kendalf
Rohan

Oct 4 2012, 8:21pm


Views: 685
Agreed


In Reply To
Fellowship of the Ring: 3 hours + 30 min = 3.5 hours
The Two Towers: 3 hours + 45 min = 3.75 hours
The Return of the King: 3.33 hours + 1 hour = 4.33 hours

A reasonable expectation for The Hobbit
An Unexpected Journey: 2.5 hours + 15 min = 2.75 hours
The Desolation of Smaug: 2.5 hours + 30 min = 3 hours
There and Back Again: 3 hours + 30 min = 3.5 hours

Don't expect much extra for AUJ unless they make the theatrical too short. The other two however, have the benefit of more filming.



Whilst your numbers are, naturally, plucked from thin air (but seem entirely reasonable Smile), I can't help but agree with your closing assertion. There simply can't be that much more material for AUJ. A movie that was once to last from Bag End to Barrels now lasts from Bag End to Eagles. Jackson will have had to re-insert material he'd intended to leave for the EE in order to bulk up the TE's running time. And even if he hasn't, then a postulated extra 30 mins or so over the original Bag End to Barrels length will now have been truncated to 15-20 mins for the new Bag End to Eagles length.

Way under half an hour longer is my guess for the AUJ EE Frown

EDIT: Oops, forgot to say: Yes, the DOS and TABA EEs, on the other hand, are likely to benefit enormously from the new block of shooting planned for next year.


(This post was edited by Kendalf on Oct 4 2012, 8:24pm)


Sinister71
Tol Eressea


Oct 4 2012, 8:58pm


Views: 675
At this point we have no idea

how long each of the films will be, though I will say I will be disappointed if they are under 2:45 each. Since Jackson himself has claimed he doesn't know how to make short films. Now as far as EE go i wonder if they are going to make shorter theatrical released films to be able to have EE or have they filmed enough to give us the usual lengthy films plus be able to add more. I'm hoping for the later of the two ideas but with Warner Bros involved it will definitely all be about money either way. One of my biggest fears of this whole trilogy announcement is that WB pressured or sweetened the pot for Peter Jackson into cutting the length of his films to accommodate the 3 film idea. one can hope there really is "more story to tell" but it seems like public relations runaround to me. Even with all my concerns about the Hobbit I for one hope for long theatrical releases as well as a fair amount of new footage added into all 3 of the films. we shall have to wait and see.


thirdeblue
The Shire

Oct 4 2012, 11:20pm


Views: 562
Great News!

The EEs might not add 30 minutes+ to these films, but even the EE of King Kong which only added I think 12 minutes added quite a bit of great material such as the triceratops attack and the giant fish thing. I would have preferred those two scenes over the brontosaurus stampede that made it into the film.

If the movies are great, the fact that they are shorter than The Lord of the Rings films will be forgiven. If they are not, then the 3 film split will seem like a cash grab.

If the EE of An Unexpected Journey ends up in the 3 hour plus range, then the rough cut of An Unexpected Journey, before the three film split had to be well over 4 hours. And of the two movies, An Unexpected Journey would be expected to be the SHORTER of the two.


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 4 2012, 11:35pm


Views: 585
*Fist In The Air!* YESSSSS!!!

*geek-o-meter spikes!* I knew it was coming... but to hear them talking about it already has me GIDDY! I can't WAIT!! I predict the theatrical version will be 2 hrs 50 mins and the extended will be 3 hrs 25 mins AND I predict the theatrical version will be released for purchase in May with the eedvd released in October 2013... in time to prep everyone for The Desolation of Smaug.



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thirdeblue
The Shire

Oct 4 2012, 11:46pm


Views: 565
Future filming

Is it possible that part of the EE of An Unexpected Journey hasn't been filmed yet?


Pipe Dream
Gondor


Oct 5 2012, 12:06am


Views: 645
Hummm...

Good news to be sure, but I wonder when the press release was made, before or after the decision to make two films into three?

"There is a long road yet," said Gandalf. "But it is the last road," said Bilbo.


HiddenSpring
Lorien

Oct 5 2012, 1:42am


Views: 651
Heh

I think all of this applies to 85% of the added scenes in the (LotR) extended editions.

Considering The Hobbit has now somehow been turned into a trilogy, I suspect the additions to the upcoming EEs will be extra-extraneous. Like, Bombur farts galore or something like that. There will be no great scenes added because there is absolutely no excuse this time to leave a great scene out of the theatrical editions. That means nothing like the Faramir-Boromir scenes, or anything as evocative as the passing of the elves in FotR. I really hope they treat the theatrical versions as the definitive versions, because they can certainly afford to do that this time. Any other approach would be gravely cynical.


In Reply To
If you listen to the LotR commentaries, a relatively small number of the extra scenes were cut due to time. Most were cut because:
  • They were redundant or just didn't add anything
  • They messed up the pacing
  • They didn't fit with the tone of the film
  • They damaged characters
  • They weren't very good
]



Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Oct 5 2012, 1:42am


Views: 713
Shades of Kingdom of Heaven...

I do fear that WB will pull a similar bad move to the studio-mandated theatrical cut of Kingdom of Heaven, which was downright awful compared to the director's cut.

Also, when did the film become "The Unexpected Journey" versus "An Unexpected Journey?"

Is that just a typo in the logo TORN is using?


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Oct 5 2012, 1:48am


Views: 671
Dwarf history will certainly be in the theatrical cut

The history they are using is very important for illuminating both the rationale behind the quest, and the personal animosity between the dwarves and goblins. Almost none of this will be axed (pun intended) for the theatrical version, because it sits at the center of the main antagonisms in the film. That is almost guaranteed, IMO.

They might shave some of it off, but no way it all goes.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Oct 5 2012, 1:50am


Views: 641
After the three-film announcement

Some more filming was done for AUJ, involving Bolg in particular. Just an FYI.


Eye's on Guard
Lorien


Oct 5 2012, 1:55am


Views: 608
Good to hear!

Hope it's substantial enough to make a difference in the EE. Smile


Mooseboy018
Grey Havens


Oct 5 2012, 3:07am


Views: 620
logo

I was wondering about it too...Unsure

I'm pretty sure that's an old fan made logo from a while ago, so it's probably not official.


Voronw_the_Faithful
Valinor

Oct 5 2012, 3:32am


Views: 578
That was 20th Century Fox, not WB

WB has had success with longish films; I don't see any reason to believe that they will do that.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


GoodGuyA
Lorien

Oct 5 2012, 3:32am


Views: 633
Kingdom of Heaven was the case because

Studios just hate Ridley Scott Tongue Don't know what it is about the guy. The man just likes to put him down every time he shows them up. The Hobbit is an established brand and PJ as a great amount of control over it, so I doubt they're going to slice out "necessary content" like was done with Kingdom of Heaven (which was R rated, period piece, and a bit high minded in and of itself). What we will see on screen will perhaps be more complete to some eyes than Fellowship was, though your mileage will vary on what "complete" really is. They will undoubtedly break the two hour mark, though I don't know by how much.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Oct 5 2012, 4:41am


Views: 577
I think the Hobbit

And certainly LOTR, are just as high minded as Kingdom of Heaven (if not more so).


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 5 2012, 7:03am


Views: 538
That would be too costly

Just for a couple of EE scenes.

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TheRealBeren
Rivendell

Oct 5 2012, 7:19am


Views: 520
?!

Can you also predict how many Razzie awards will The Hobbit win?Seriously, did you even read the book?3:25?!


pulpfiction16
Rivendell

Oct 5 2012, 8:27am


Views: 500
They did it for the RoTK EE

Remember the classic anecdote about how they were filming after the movie had already won best picture? That was done solely for the EE.

Besides, remember they're doing pick-ups and a few months of extra filming next year, it's not exactly hard for them to shoot some more sound stage stuff. (Location might be a different story, but considering that even Rivendel is in the studio now, I imagine they have a lot of freedom).

Pretty much at this point, if Peter wants it, he'll get it. And if not, they'll just sneak it into the fine print of the schedules ; )


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 5 2012, 8:39am


Views: 477
This is true

If they've already got the actors required down there, and the sets, then a couple of re-shot or new scenes wouldn't break the bank, would it? And EE sales must be through the roof anyway.

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Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Oct 5 2012, 9:35am


Views: 491
Your enthusiasm is so very genuine and infectious B-) //

 



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Sunflower
Valinor

Oct 5 2012, 9:55am


Views: 423
Um...

shouldn't that be "Warner Brothers Platinum Edition"?Evil


Sunflower
Valinor

Oct 5 2012, 9:59am


Views: 439
What scene

were they finishing for that BTW? Yes, I remember that ancedote at the time...thought it was hilarious...until the EE came out...and I was floored.

And Captain Salt...my thoughts exactly (posting in the wrong thread as usual with first reactions....:)
But Bombadil I agree....I wish I could have your blind optimism! I am really curious now!

(Please, let the running times be 2 hrs 25 mins or something....I can live with that!)


guitarzankansasfan
Lorien


Oct 5 2012, 11:04am


Views: 422
Your packshot will go viral and get used by news organizations

Just like that fake Smaug poster that turned up in a news article.

There was a man.
There was a lady.
There was a Dragon Lord.


Elessar
Valinor


Oct 5 2012, 11:09am


Views: 410
Thanks

I just love middle-earth. It means a lot to me and is one of my major stress reliefs to get through rough patches. :)



Bombadil
Half-elven


Oct 5 2012, 11:11am


Views: 446
The scene that they working on? After they Won

Was the the Skull avalanche in Paths of the Dead
I believe.

Check your Disc 4
late in the Commentaries
of ROTK


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 5 2012, 11:14am


Views: 415
Yeah.... a few times ;) //

 



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DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 5 2012, 11:24am


Views: 415
They should've spent more time on it!

Definitely a scene that should have had even more added on to it. The EE scenes are Crazy

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Marionette
Rohan


Oct 5 2012, 3:37pm


Views: 359
Expecting a lot

Yay Sly

Well, hopefully there will be sustancial material from the appendices.

Only the Hobbit book for three movies and EE... they must be adding some juicy stuff from the appendices, hopefully


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Lindele
Gondor


Oct 5 2012, 6:23pm


Views: 328
Can anybody confirm this?

What is the source? Everything I've read/seen leads to nowhere.
And as Shelob said, the logo is fake....
Where is the press release?


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 5 2012, 6:30pm


Views: 301
The logo is up to whoever wrote the TORn article

The original article is here. I can't find any Warner Bros. announcement.

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Lindele
Gondor


Oct 5 2012, 6:42pm


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Thanks!

 


Carne
Tol Eressea

Oct 5 2012, 11:28pm


Views: 509
The head of Collider (very legit site) was sent an email by WB saying an extended edition has not been confirmed

https://twitter.com/...s/254361962123780096

We'll probably get one though.


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Ardamr
Valinor


Oct 5 2012, 11:54pm


Views: 463
Well that's not surprising.

I was more surprised to find out we were getting one. I would totally not be surprised to find that we're not. Three theatricals is pushing it, I think. How much more could be left for EEs?

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Pipe Dream
Gondor


Oct 6 2012, 12:06am


Views: 439
I had a feeling that was pre three film news.

 

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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Oct 6 2012, 2:48am


Views: 431
Legit but not infallible

I believe it was they who reported that Willem Dafoe would be staring in Guillermo Del Toro's current film... turned out to be just a rumour.

Edit: Also it would seem a little damage control is in order having announced there would be an extended edition before the theatrical release even hits the screen -- talk about "milking it."


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Ring-Bearer
Rivendell


Oct 6 2012, 3:02am


Views: 401
If that is the case

Maybe any extra footage planned while only two films were in motion will be used for the third film. It wouldn't surprise me though if extended editions do emerge.

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Fardragon
Rohan

Oct 6 2012, 8:17am


Views: 384
I think there will be extended editions

The pacing for something to be watched at home (with the benefit of a pause button) can be very different to something cut for cinema. PJ knows this, and put together the LotR trilogy with two versions in mind.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 6 2012, 8:19am


Views: 369
Oh dear :-( /

 

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QuackingTroll
Valinor


Oct 6 2012, 9:02am


Views: 352
I imagine PJ is editing both versions at the same time...

Rather than going back and revisiting. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing, or whether it'll effect his decisions in any way. Could mean he'd be more willing to cut certain material, knowing it'll be in the EE's


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 6 2012, 10:19am


Views: 426
This seems to be the Warner Bros. statement


Quote
In the recently distributed calendar included in the Warner Bros. 90th Anniversary press kit, there was an erroneous mention of an Extended Edition release for The Hobbit film. This product has not been confirmed yet and we apologize for any confusion.

Quote

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Trin_Turambar
The Shire


Oct 6 2012, 3:52pm


Views: 300
"This product has not been confirmed yet"

Does including the word "yet" into that statement imply that WB will confirm in the future?


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 6 2012, 4:03pm


Views: 324
I think this is most likely

There will be an EE, but someone let slip too soon. They won't want to confirm completely until a final cut has been made of AUJ.

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Escapist
Gondor


Oct 6 2012, 4:10pm


Views: 327
I think EEs could be the perfect solution

if the problem is that they still have more good and usable scenes than what some kind of external restriction related to making the movie close to 2 hours because of 3D glasses and eye strain or something of that order.

But with the change in the movie structure, I wouldn't expect there to be as much of this kind of material in AUJ compared to DOS and TABA. But if they release EEs later on then they can have more of the "story of the making of The Hobbit" or more backstage antics on the disc that goes with AUJ - or something like that.


TheRealBeren
Rivendell

Oct 6 2012, 4:38pm


Views: 308
hooray!

YES!Somebody read my posts :) And let's hope this extended hogwash stays dead.


totoro
Lorien

Oct 6 2012, 5:57pm


Views: 421
Advertising an EE...

... seems like poor marketing. I know most of us will rush out to see the theatrical version, but those with more patience might want to wait until the whole film is there. (Not that EE is necessarily better than theatrical.)