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Direct quotes from the book

jtarkey
Rohan

Oct 2 2012, 11:57am

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Direct quotes from the book

So, I was just re-reading the first chapter of The Hobbit (I honestly haven't read it in years, and don't plan to read it all before the film comes out. I don't want to find myself nitpicking the movie to be exactly like the book). I noticed that even in the trailer, there are many direct quotes from the book. It surprises me that more people (especially purists) aren't very enthused about, or have failed to notice this.

If memory serves me right, most of the dialogue in the original movie trilogy didn’t directly quote the book. Now, I know that there were lines uttered here and there, but it really seemed like most of it was tossed aside to better suit the narrative of a film. It is only a trailer, and I'm sure there will be a ton of dialogue that is not in the book. But realizing that the trailer really had a lot of Tolkiens dialogue in it made me very happy Smile

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Obviously this could change, but it gives me hope that a lot of the exchanges between characters will be kept intact in the films. Given that the style in which The Hobbit is written makes it easier to include conversations from the book to the film. Examples:

"I like visitors as much as the next hobbit, but I do like to know them before they come...visiting" (not an EXACT quote, but very similar)

"Quite a merry gathering!"

"I'm looking for someone to share in an adventure"

Anyone else pleased to see these bits in the trailers?

(This post was edited by jtarkey on Oct 2 2012, 11:58am)

Olessan
Bree

Oct 2 2012, 1:04pm

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Mhm!

In Reply To

Anyone else pleased to see these bits in the trailers?

I am. I think it's great; those little details will end up compiling and making the films overall that much better.~

Kangi Ska
Half-elven

Oct 2 2012, 1:58pm

Views: 814

Well...

"I noticed that even in the trailer, there are many direct quotes from the book. It surprises me that more people (especially purists) aren't very enthused about, or have failed to notice this."

The fact that more people have not pointed out quotes from the book in The Hobbit trailers does not surprise me. Book quotes are to be expected. It is that simple. Hard core purists would not care about the movies so why would they point out these quotes.

"...the dialogue in the original movie trilogy didn’t directly quote the book. Now, I know that there were lines uttered here and there, but it really seemed like most of it was tossed aside to better suit the narrative of a film."

If my memory is still with me, I recall many book quotes in the Lord of the Rings movies. Some were shuffeled from one character to another but were there none the less.

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Magpie
Immortal

Oct 2 2012, 2:04pm

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you're right

there were quite a few book quotes used in the movie. We used to play a game with them on the other forum. But many were, as you said, put into different scenes or given to different characters than in the book.

And quite a few lines from the book were used in the background singing of the score. But most were translated into a Tolkien language.

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Bombadil
Half-elven

Oct 2 2012, 2:56pm

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PJ stated in the EE production diaries years ago..

Each time they found using Tolkien's own words
was found to be better than what they wrote.

I don't havethe patience to cross reference
Tolkien's words used in the film with
the Book; but the Last time I read it a
couple of years ago after the
Third Movie,
Many times Dialogue
that was used, Popped off the page.

(This post was edited by Bombadil on Oct 2 2012, 2:59pm)

DanielLB
Immortal

Oct 2 2012, 2:59pm

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This website has a nice book-to-film quote list

Link

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Escapist
Gondor

Oct 2 2012, 3:02pm

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Tolkien was a fantastic wordsmith

very quotable - and a good source of lines and anything else linguistic

Bombadil
Half-elven

Oct 2 2012, 3:14pm

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Thank you DLB..

You are a wealth of knowledge!!
It like we have our own. ..
Wikipedia with you
Here!

Bomby

Marionette
Rohan

Oct 2 2012, 3:52pm

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I notice the trailer is quite Hobbish <3

But that isn´t at all a prove the movie will be faithful to the book. That´s why I don´t say anything just based on trailers. Trailers usally cheat a lot about the movies. Anywayz, I think so far it´s clear the movie will differ a lot from the book, but for the good or for the bad that´s uncertain until the movies to come out.

The Trilogy has many book´s quotes and in the movie itself changes anywayz. I remember some lines are told by other characters in the films.

The book is easier than LOTR, because the trilogy wasn´t easy, so I´m hoping The Hobbit has no need of so many differences.

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Magpie
Immortal

Oct 2 2012, 4:39pm

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agreed!

thus my recent birthday mathom offered on Off Topic. ;-)

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Beren0nehanded
Bree

Oct 3 2012, 1:40pm

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Warms my heart!

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thus my recent birthday mathom offered on Off Topic. ;-)

Beautiful collection Magpie! Wink

Don't be hasty.

Fardragon
Rohan

Oct 3 2012, 1:44pm

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I wouldn't be surprised to hear quotes from LotR that didn't make the cut last time out as well.

In particular a few from Saruman, disparaging Radagast, and Gandalf's tobacco habit.

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Bombadil
Half-elven

Oct 3 2012, 2:54pm

Views: 385

Honestly I feel that our Actors are sooo Proud..

to be the Ones
to deliver his
Words to
the World.

I see.. so much joy
behind their eyes.

They know what a Legend
these movies will be.

Bomby is so proud of each of them.

Ring-Bearer
Rivendell

Oct 4 2012, 1:46am

Views: 297

There is also potential

For more quotes directly from the book in future extended cuts of The Hobbit.
There were plenty in LotR, as well as scenes that more closely followed the books.

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'I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you!'

Kangi Ska
Half-elven

Oct 4 2012, 1:52am

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What future extended cuts? //

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Eye's on Guard
Lorien

Oct 4 2012, 2:13am

Views: 285

Well...

...if PJ really has a bunch more material that would justify the third movie, but WB forces him to keep the films around two hours (hijacking his original intent?), there might be a good deal to work with for extended editions.

Ring-Bearer
Rivendell

Oct 4 2012, 2:13am

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Possible extended editions of The Hobbit trilogy

Is what I meant. PJ mentioned the topic at SDCC this year, correct me if I am wrong.

'I will take it! I will take the Ring to Mordor- though, I do not know the way...'
'I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you!'

DanielLB
Immortal

Oct 4 2012, 7:07am

Views: 362

There's more film for a smaller book

I'd be disappointed if they didn't take advantage and lift quotes straight from the book.

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