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White Council Poster!



DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 2 2012, 10:25am


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White Council Poster!

Link

Very nice!

2 posts after each other, sorry SirD ...Wink

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(This post was edited by DanielLB on Oct 2 2012, 10:26am)


Carne
Tol Eressea

Oct 2 2012, 10:28am


Views: 14348
Where did you find this?

 


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 2 2012, 10:32am


Views: 14257
On another forum, but I think this is the original source

Link

Bigger version here

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(This post was edited by DanielLB on Oct 2 2012, 10:37am)


Xanaseb
Tol Eressea


Oct 2 2012, 10:38am


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AWESOME. //

 

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Vangalad
Lorien


Oct 2 2012, 10:39am


Views: 13204
Great find!

 This must be another collage poster like the one one revealed yesterday....actually there are many unseen character photos and movie stills in this site, gonna check them!


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Not all those who wander are lost,
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.


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Carne
Tol Eressea

Oct 2 2012, 10:40am


Views: 12971
Awesome, thanks!

Good poster :)


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 2 2012, 10:41am


Views: 14009
First picture of Radagast and Gandalf together!

Link

And Radagast's staff seems to be lit ...

Lots of juicy pictures! Sly

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Carne
Tol Eressea

Oct 2 2012, 10:44am


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Two new stills of Bilbo?

http://filmcellsltd.com/...es/800x800/bm638.jpg


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 2 2012, 10:45am


Views: 13357
The website is a gold mine!

See here

Gandalf's quote:

... of the Secret Fire
.... Valar over the Sea
and by the light of Arien
Let the darkness be lifted

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Nine Finger Frodo
The Shire


Oct 2 2012, 10:45am


Views: 13341
Gandalf and Radagast

http://filmcellsltd.com/...es/800x800/bm642.jpg

Stairs of Cirith Ungol


Xanaseb
Tol Eressea


Oct 2 2012, 10:49am


Views: 13216
they've youthened Sir Chris Lee quite a bit I think, I love that poster. when I get high qual, it's going to be my wallpaper lol

 

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DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 2 2012, 11:02am


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Definitely - the hands are very youthful

Perhaps this is only Lee's head, and the rest is his body double?

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Aitieuriskon
Lorien


Oct 2 2012, 11:03am


Views: 13232
Is it just me

Or is Glamdring glowing a pale blue? There is still hope!

"After all, I believe that legends and myths are largely made of 'truth', and indeed present aspects of it that can only be received in this mode; and long ago certain truths and modes of this kind were discovered and must always reappear." Professor Tolkien, 1951


redgiraffe
Rohan

Oct 2 2012, 11:45am


Views: 12727
awesome

While I feel that this poster and the one yesterday are a bit too crowded for movie posters, my dislike is overwhelmed by my excitement of seeing new pics.

Are we certain that pic of Lee is not from LOTR? His face doesn't look like it's aged a day.

-Sir are you classified as human
-Negative, I am a meat-popsicle


jtarkey
Rohan

Oct 2 2012, 12:01pm


Views: 12565
Definetly a more youthfull looking Lee..

I would even say he looks noticeably younger than in LOTR.


dave_lf
Gondor

Oct 2 2012, 12:13pm


Views: 12992
Erm

How can their products be described as "real film from the movie" when the whole thing is digital?


Eleniel
Tol Eressea


Oct 2 2012, 12:30pm


Views: 12721
Loyalty, Honour, & a Willing Heart...

Now we know what those hawt Dwarves stand for...

http://filmcellsltd.com/...s/800x800/fc5966.jpg


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RaoulJ
Rivendell


Oct 2 2012, 12:43pm


Views: 12805
Yeah, I was wondering the same....

Looks like a scam to me, but maybe I'm missing something...


stoutfiles
Rohan

Oct 2 2012, 12:49pm


Views: 12635
Is that the entire council?

Where are...

Radagast
Cirdan
Glorfindel
Erestor
Celeborn
Arahad I

I know that Tolkien doesn't ever give a full list, but it is described to be bigger than just four people.


Olessan
Bree


Oct 2 2012, 12:52pm


Views: 12646
Ahh, yes!

I think this is my favourite poster of the ones released so far, actually -- it looks like the posters the LotR trilogy had!
Since the site doesn't allow right-clicking to get the url of that big version, I pulled the link out of the HTML instead. Here's the full size. :D
Saruman looks a lot younger and less decrepit! So does Elrond, actually.
Still looking through all those other stills. x3


Elessar
Valinor


Oct 2 2012, 12:58pm


Views: 12464
These posters are great.

Some are better than others of course but as a whole I love them. I won't buy them but if I can find digital copies to store away that I would do.



burgahobbit
Rohan


Oct 2 2012, 1:03pm


Views: 12680
All those pictures were very cool!

Elrond, Saruman, Gandalf, and Galadriel look almost just like they did ten years ago!

And I like the two references back (or forward) to LOTR. "Servant of the Secret Fire" as DanielLB pointed out was very cool, and Smeagol's, "Up, up, up it goes!" I think is funny. In the book Gollum just says, "Up, up it goes" but this slight change makes the quote almost identical to the one from the trilogy where Smeagol said, "Up, up, up the stairs we go!" (In one of the Comic-con reports it also said "Up, up, up" but I thought it might have just been a mistake)

Apparently Smeagol likes things in threes too! Sly


Faenoriel
Tol Eressea


Oct 2 2012, 1:05pm


Views: 12322
Beautiful. Though it is just them, then

Ah well, perhaps we can deal with this. They do look positively awesome together.

But every word you say today
Gets twisted 'round some other way
And they'll hurt you if they think you've lied


burgahobbit
Rohan


Oct 2 2012, 1:08pm


Views: 12366
"There's a right bit more than hope!"

- the beaver from Narnia Laugh

But seriously I think the Lego Lord of the Rings video suggests that the sword may glow blue. And I think I may have heard other rumblings as well (such as comic-con descriptions and such). It would be very cool and I think they might do it! Angelic

I agree with you though, there seems to be a hint of blue in that picture...hmmm.


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Faenoriel
Tol Eressea


Oct 2 2012, 1:08pm


Views: 12517
Been waiting for a picture like that for so, so long.

Excuse me, it's a sensitive moment.

#sniff

But every word you say today
Gets twisted 'round some other way
And they'll hurt you if they think you've lied


dave_lf
Gondor

Oct 2 2012, 1:10pm


Views: 12059
Dialog prediction

Elrond or Galadriel: But where is Radagast?
Saruman: Radagast the brown? Radagast the bird tamer? Radagast the simpleton; Radagast the fool.

(well; let's say two out of those four styles)


burgahobbit
Rohan


Oct 2 2012, 1:11pm


Views: 11911
I said the same thing

Saruman looks exactly the same! It's got to be a picture from LOTR. Wink


Elenorflower
Gondor


Oct 2 2012, 1:23pm


Views: 11929
gorgeous

me likey! Sly


Apexman13
Bree


Oct 2 2012, 1:25pm


Views: 12138
Thats the first thing i noticed as well

Perhaps they will use some CGI trickery to make Lee look younger? Im all for it.


Fardragon
Rohan

Oct 2 2012, 1:38pm


Views: 12329
Radagast was never part of the white council

I doubt there was time to gather the rest for an emergency meeting.

A Far Dragon is the best kind...


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 2 2012, 1:38pm


Views: 11868
I see blue! Perhaps it will glow! /

 

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DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 2 2012, 1:38pm


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I think the film is converted from digital to film...

So they can make extra $$$

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dubulous
Rohan

Oct 2 2012, 1:44pm


Views: 11805
I love it!

Can't wait to see the White Council in the movie.


stoutfiles
Rohan

Oct 2 2012, 2:15pm


Views: 12148
Not true

While he is never specifically named in the Council, it is odd he would be ignored. Why would the Council purposely omit a Wizard? Don't say his advice wouldn't be useful, because Elrond sent his sons to consult with Radagast.

Members known:

Cirdan (who isn't in the picture yet was in ROTK)
Galadriel
Gandalf
Saruman
Elrond

Members that could be assumed:

Celeborn
Glorfindel
Radagast
Erestor


Maylily
The Shire

Oct 2 2012, 3:12pm


Views: 11774
Wow, awesome find!

Holy crap, this website is full of goodies. Did anybody check out LOTR, POTC, and the other movies that they had? A treasure chest indeed.


DarkJackal
Rohan


Oct 2 2012, 3:13pm


Views: 12102
Uh-Mazing! //

 



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Marionette
Rohan


Oct 2 2012, 3:53pm


Views: 11693
Great

All the gallery, new images fantastic posters!


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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Oct 2 2012, 4:02pm


Views: 11945
Saruman's fingernails are really long in this

I was under the impression that this was a physical feature that hinted at "evil" in LOTR...

Might have made sense to change that for TH...


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 2 2012, 4:04pm


Views: 11784
They're no longer than Galadriel's nails ;-)

And she's not evil. Sly

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Ffnir
Rohan


Oct 2 2012, 4:25pm


Views: 11716
Orcrist

I see the same blue taint on this picture of Orcrist, but perhaps it's just the reflection of the sky

http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/656082066.jpg


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Faenoriel
Tol Eressea


Oct 2 2012, 5:21pm


Views: 11874
*Squint* Does Galadriel have a new costume here?

Or does it just look like that? In the upper pic? The sleeve and the fabric look different.

But every word you say today
Gets twisted 'round some other way
And they'll hurt you if they think you've lied

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Faenoriel
Tol Eressea


Oct 2 2012, 5:24pm


Views: 11444
Btw, it's really hard to do paperwork with nails like that

And Saruman's supposed to be a book worm.

Perhaps the magic helps. Tongue

But every word you say today
Gets twisted 'round some other way
And they'll hurt you if they think you've lied


Owain
Tol Eressea


Oct 2 2012, 5:44pm


Views: 11503
Very cool! Thanks for sharing.//

 

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Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Oct 2 2012, 6:17pm


Views: 11960
The Wormtongue effect.

How could anyone look at this Saruman and believe he's a good guy? Or is he meant to represent 'good but dangerous', like Galadriel?

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Saurons master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Hamfast of Gamwich
Rivendell

Oct 2 2012, 6:28pm


Views: 11867
Omisions.

In terms of making a quality and approachable movie for the casual fan, introducing Cirdan, Glofindel and Erestor into the story not long after introducing the 13 dwarves would be very tricky to do. Tolkein never gave them essential roles in the White Council so it's not surprising they've been omitted.

Radagast on the other hand is more surprising an omission given he's in the film anyway. There must be a good reason. Maybe he'll be protrayed as more 'washed up' than in the books.


daemoon
Rivendell

Oct 2 2012, 7:06pm


Views: 11571
Rights

Do they have the rights to mention Arien? I really cant remember any reference of her in the LotR books tbh...


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Oct 2 2012, 7:20pm


Views: 11899
The larger image seems to be the cover of the film calendar...

One can easily make out a hole punched through the cover.

'Thus spake Ioreth, wise-woman of Gondor: The hands of the king are the hands of a healer, and so shall the rightful king be known.' - Gandalf the White


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 2 2012, 7:36pm


Views: 11508
Not that I know of ...

All references (I can find, and remember) are in The Silmarillion and HoME series.

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Istaris'staffs
Rivendell


Oct 2 2012, 8:08pm


Views: 12145
I love all of these!!!

I wonder what the Gandalf quote means? Or in what context it is being used in the films?


TheHutt
Gondor


Oct 2 2012, 8:27pm


Views: 11336
Yeah, selling film cels from an all-digital film...

...looks like $$$-cutting to me.

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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Oct 2 2012, 8:38pm


Views: 11321
Radagast and the White Council


In Reply To
Radagast was never part of the white council...I doubt there was time to gather the rest for an emergency meeting.



Theoretically, all three (five?) Istari were members of the White Council--at least in potentia. The two 'Blue Wizards' were, of course, missing in action; however, Radagast's lack of participation was completely his own fault.

'Thus spake Ioreth, wise-woman of Gondor: The hands of the king are the hands of a healer, and so shall the rightful king be known.' - Gandalf the White


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 2 2012, 8:42pm


Views: 11798
The cleansing of Dol Guldur, I imagine /

 

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dave_lf
Gondor

Oct 2 2012, 9:06pm


Views: 11601
That's the obvious answer

but that event won't happen in film 1 (I assume). I just hope it isn't from the troll scene. Unimpressed


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 2 2012, 9:14pm


Views: 11575
I hadn't even considered that

Dol Guldur is in the background. Most obvious suggestion, but also the most likely. Wink

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burgahobbit
Rohan


Oct 2 2012, 10:38pm


Views: 11584
Yes I thought so too

It looks grey. Interesting...


stoutfiles
Rohan

Oct 3 2012, 12:53am


Views: 11255
Technically he was evil in TH

Just hiding it.


Pipe Dream
Gondor


Oct 3 2012, 1:00am


Views: 11930
Here is a closer look.



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Ring-Bearer
Rivendell


Oct 3 2012, 1:57am


Views: 11339
Beautiful!

It's wonderful to see old friends again!
They're still looking great after all these years. Thank you so much for posting!

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AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Oct 3 2012, 2:54am


Views: 11023
Tired of worrying with it. But Glorfindel can be better than assumed.

Aside from being the mightiest of Rivendell's Elves, aside from Elrond, and his close friendship with Gandalf and Elrond, at Elrond's council he comments on events from White Council meetings, concerning Saruman, etc.

Still a great picture. I mean to put it on my social media.

In Reply To
While he is never specifically named in the Council, it is odd he would be ignored. Why would the Council purposely omit a Wizard? Don't say his advice wouldn't be useful, because Elrond sent his sons to consult with Radagast.

Members known:

Cirdan (who isn't in the picture yet was in ROTK)
Galadriel
Gandalf
Saruman
Elrond

Members that could be assumed:

Celeborn
Glorfindel
Radagast
Erestor


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

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Milknut
Rohan


Oct 3 2012, 3:56am


Views: 11707
I just found this one too. THEY MADE SARUMAN LOOK YOUNG!

I'm still in awe. Hopefully he looks that good throughout the film.

The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie___


rings7
Rohan


Oct 3 2012, 4:57am


Views: 11519
What a fabulous post!

Thanks to all for all the great links!


Aranaes
Rivendell


Oct 3 2012, 6:10am


Views: 11276
I reckon he's attempting to 'heal' Thrain, kinda like he did with Theoden/

 

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Lausus
Bree


Oct 3 2012, 6:51am


Views: 11057
I'm betting Gandalf's quote is definitely from the Troll Scene

It looks like they really want to mirror the confrontation with the balrog on this.


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 3 2012, 7:14am


Views: 11116
I hope not... :-( /

 

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DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 3 2012, 7:15am


Views: 11543
Radagast's staff is definitely lit!

This could be around the Trollshaw area? The wood looks brighter than Mirkwood.

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DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 3 2012, 7:22am


Views: 11165
Possibly...

So much of the Quest happens in the dark or at night, that it couple be applicable to almost anywhere:

- Trollshaws
- Goblin Town/death of Great Goblin
- Warg attack/lighting of pine cones
- Mirkwood/Dol Guldur
- BO5A

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DarkJackal
Rohan


Oct 3 2012, 9:39am


Views: 11337
Is the calendar officially out yet?

You'll get a good look at his staff there.



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DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 3 2012, 9:44am


Views: 11381
I've been keeping an eye out, but haven't seen it /

 

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Faenoriel
Tol Eressea


Oct 3 2012, 1:20pm


Views: 11098
Is is the same "illumination stone" Gandalf used in Moria in FotR?

That would suit the "Gandalf takes Radagast's staff" theory.

But every word you say today
Gets twisted 'round some other way
And they'll hurt you if they think you've lied

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Fertlthewhite
Bree


Oct 4 2012, 4:55am


Views: 10961
Saruman

... it's an old picture of Saruman - just mirrored

http://www.swordskingdom.com/useruploads/images/lord_of_the_rings/saruman1.jpg


Eye's on Guard
Lorien


Oct 4 2012, 5:34am


Views: 11028
Sure looks like it...

Here's an overlay


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Milknut
Rohan


Oct 4 2012, 6:18am


Views: 10915
That sucks!

Frown

The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie___


sharku
Rivendell

Oct 4 2012, 6:28am


Views: 10974
Copout


In Reply To
In terms of making a quality and approachable movie for the casual fan, introducing Cirdan, Glofindel and Erestor into the story not long after introducing the 13 dwarves would be very tricky to do...


That's still a bit of a cop out / sop to the lower common denominator, and an unneeded shame given the fairly minor addition of an actor in a beard (Cirdan) and a slightly wider shot to get Radagast in there with a line or two. You don't exactly need to introduce them to the audience or take up screen time to show them. Think Ioreth in the houses of the healing (albeit that was in the ROTK EE).

Minimal cost and I'm sure that casual fans aren't that thick that they'd (literally) lose the plot. More dedicated fans would nod sagely and appreciate the correctness.

Besides, the complexity and number of characters in Game of Thrones and Harry Potter don't seem to have dented their mass appeal any. I'm far from convinced that including a couple of extra characters in the White Council would make the film any less approachable to a casual audience. The film will still be successful as a result of the success of the LOTR films which means the "casual fan" market who would be flummoxed by Cirdan/Radagast would surely be relatively small).


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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Oct 4 2012, 7:03am


Views: 10779
Agreed

After all, the Council of Elrond had a number of extra people that never spoke, and it gave that scene some real-world color.


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dave_lf
Gondor

Oct 4 2012, 1:07pm


Views: 11089
Meat in the room

There may be plot/character reasons for Radagast to be absent, but yes, there's no particular reason there couldn't be some random Rivendell elves in the background (and maybe there will be!). But this is assuming there is something akin to a formal White Council meeting in the films, and not just a couple ad-hoc discussions among the individuals who happen to be there.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Oct 4 2012, 2:34pm


Views: 10699
The White Council in Rivendell


In Reply To
There may be plot/character reasons for Radagast to be absent, but yes, there's no particular reason there couldn't be some random Rivendell elves in the background (and maybe there will be!). But this is assuming there is something akin to a formal White Council meeting in the films, and not just a couple ad-hoc discussions among the individuals who happen to be there.



I expect any White Council meeting that takes place while Thorin & Co. are in Rivendell to be just such an ad-hoc affair. Any full meeting of the Council should come later, after Gandalf leaves Bilbo and the Dwarves following the encounter with Beorn.

'Thus spake Ioreth, wise-woman of Gondor: The hands of the king are the hands of a healer, and so shall the rightful king be known.' - Gandalf the White


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Oct 4 2012, 2:44pm


Views: 10837
Perhaps, but how ad hoc could it be?

I mean, Galadriel and Saruman had to travel a looooong way to get to Rivendell...


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Oct 4 2012, 2:48pm


Views: 10510
Flashback?


In Reply To
I mean, Galadriel and Saruman had to travel a looooong way to get to Rivendell...



Could this meeting have taken place before the start of Bilbo's adventure? Of course, any formal meeting of the Council should include more members than just the top four.

'Thus spake Ioreth, wise-woman of Gondor: The hands of the king are the hands of a healer, and so shall the rightful king be known.' - Gandalf the White


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 4 2012, 3:08pm


Views: 10369
We know from the ComicCon footage that ...

Galadriel can fade in and out. That's probably her transport mechanism.

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dave_lf
Gondor

Oct 4 2012, 4:00pm


Views: 10617
Beam me up, Elrond


In Reply To
Galadriel can fade in and out. That's probably her transport mechanism.



Yup. Not sure about Saruman, though.


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 4 2012, 4:02pm


Views: 10548
Galadriel gives Saruman a piggy back?

C.Lee is getting on a bitWink

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Ffnir
Rohan


Oct 4 2012, 5:22pm


Views: 10736
He can't look that young but look

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCh_xuI10B8&playnext=1&list=PLC575034BA2DFCFB0&feature=results_video

That's him before post-production. Looks okay to me !


Milknut
Rohan


Oct 5 2012, 2:16am


Views: 10597
I thought he looked significantly older.//

 

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