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The One Ring Forums: Tolkien Topics: Movie Discussion: The Hobbit:
i really like the new beefed up stone giants sequence

MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea

Sep 22 2012, 1:14am

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i really like the new beefed up stone giants sequence

PJ took something that was very intriguing but only touched on briefly in the book and went "rocks out" on it! those things almost look indestructible! how would you kill something that is made out of stone...?

wendy woo
Rivendell

Sep 22 2012, 1:18am

Views: 808

I wasn't sure they would even put it in the film...

but it gives them a good reason to find a cave, of course. It certainly ramps up the danger faced OUTSIDE the mountain. The way it was described in the book, you wouldn't have thought that any giant came near them, only the boulders the giants were tossing. But I guess Jackson's going to give the Dwarves and Company a close-up view after all.

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Dlanor da Great
Rivendell

Sep 22 2012, 1:20am

Views: 779

Well ....

In Reply To

Maybe blow them up like Saruman blew up the wall at Helms Deep.
Or summon lightning like saruman did when The fellowship tried to cross over the mountain in FOTR.
Basically Saruman could kick their azz ...lol

MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea

Sep 22 2012, 1:22am

Views: 729

but he would have to do that

from afar, because if we was in tossing stones distance he would meet his end very quickly!

Dlanor da Great
Rivendell

Sep 22 2012, 1:49am

Views: 677

Well he summoned the lightning while in his tower. So that would work. ;-)

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Rohan

Sep 22 2012, 2:20am

Views: 652

I think it's great!

I was hoping they would get included!

But I had the same thought process... How would you destroy one??

Ardamírë
Valinor

Sep 22 2012, 2:24am

Views: 632

Umm, kill them?

In the book, they're throwing stones, but not at Thorin and co. There's no reason to kill them; they're not evil.

I'm not sure if I'm going to like this expansion.

MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea

Sep 22 2012, 2:26am

Views: 616

send the balrog?

its a good thing sauron never recruited them! you wouldn't need the wolf's head to break into minas tirith or the dynamite to break into helm's deep. i don't think lightning would work Dlanor da Great, have you seen lightning when it hits boulders? it just causes them to roll around or down a hill, the lightning would have to be powerful to crack the stone...

Owned.

Estel78
Tol Eressea

Sep 22 2012, 2:43am

Views: 597

Who's to say they are throwing stones at the company? //

Ardamírë
Valinor

Sep 22 2012, 2:54am

Views: 609

Well we can't tell for sure, yet.

And I never said they were throwing them at the company.

What I did say is that, according to the book, there's no reason to kill them because they're not evil or attacking the company.

thoon
Bree

Sep 22 2012, 3:24am

Views: 590

My thoughts exactly!

We see the giant on two distinct occasion in the trailer: once throwing and once falling. But is the same giant doing both? What if there are two of them, one above/behind the company and one in front of them. The poor company may have stumbled upon a rather nasty domestic dispute. I can just see them being a gigantic couple struggling through a rocky time in their relationship. Perhaps one was taking the other for granite, while the other was being too sedimental.

I'll see myself out.

MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea

Sep 22 2012, 3:30am

Views: 585

one was taking the other for.....granite

this is my granite he says while hurling his granite at the other one!!

Owned.

cameragod
Lorien

Sep 22 2012, 3:52am

Views: 572

So are you suggesting

their relationship was going through a rocky patch?

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Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator

Sep 22 2012, 6:01am

Views: 526

It ended with one of them hitting rock bottom //

(This post was edited by Earl on Sep 22 2012, 6:01am)

SirDennisC
Half-elven

Sep 22 2012, 6:05am

Views: 499

And the other on a slab. //

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totoro
Lorien

Sep 22 2012, 7:08am

Views: 498

Not again!

I swear you would have to be stoned to think these threads were funny.

DanielLB
Immortal

Sep 22 2012, 8:38am

Views: 473

Unless it's a metaphor sequence ;-P /

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Valandil ed Imladris
Lorien

Sep 22 2012, 8:53am

Views: 467

ya'll

rock my world..

Elenorflower
Gondor

Sep 22 2012, 8:01pm

Views: 341

I always thought

they were throwing rocks about for fun? in the thunder storm, trying to look cool like Rockers from Rolling Stone magazine. groan. Unsure

DanielLB
Immortal

Sep 22 2012, 8:21pm

Views: 334

In the book, it was for fun.

But the trailer certainly makes it seem like they're being thrown at the Company. And we've only seen one of them. I hope there are more.

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Valandil ed Imladris
Lorien

Sep 22 2012, 8:48pm

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I think there are two.

One is ahead, throwing stones at the company and the other one is above them which is also the one who falls down at the end of the trailer

DanielLB
Immortal

Sep 22 2012, 8:49pm

Views: 330

Falling?

I've been trying to work that out. Is it a Stone Giant falling, or the side of the cliff falling apart?

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Lacrimae Rerum
Grey Havens

Sep 22 2012, 8:53pm

Views: 298

Although the company felt endangered by the rocks in the text

Valandil ed Imladris
Lorien

Sep 22 2012, 9:06pm

Views: 292

IMO

It's a stone giant falling down!!

Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Sep 22 2012, 9:30pm

Views: 302

It has discernable arms and legs

So I am quite sure it is a falling giant.

Quickbeam and that other guy pointed it out in their analysis.

painjoiker
Grey Havens

Sep 22 2012, 9:53pm

Views: 270

I clearly see a stone giant at least //

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Hamfast of Gamwich
Rivendell

Sep 22 2012, 10:59pm

Views: 303

There are plenty of reason Sauron might not be able to recruit them

Maybe they derive their power from the mountains, so can't leave.

Maybe they only come alive at night.

Maybe there a law unto themselves who just love trashing stuff so would be just as likely to start trampling on orcs and smashing up Barad-dur as they are attacking minas Tirith.

They look bloody cool whatever they are.

painjoiker
Grey Havens

Sep 22 2012, 11:29pm

Views: 271

I think they are like ents,

They mind their own business and fight whoever seem like their enemy ^^

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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Sep 22 2012, 11:40pm

Views: 265

Yup

Or like the Jotunheim trolls in Trollhunter who allegedly throw rocks at each other in a large field.

Macfeast
Rohan

Sep 22 2012, 11:53pm

Views: 254

Hehe.

Puns aside though, I think you're on to it. By the looks of it, we have one giant ahead of the company, and that one giant who falls just beside them. I think it's just the giants throwing rocks at each other until one of them falls over, not so much a proper battle (unless the falling giant is actually felled by some over-the-top heroics from the dwarves) as the company merely being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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painjoiker
Grey Havens

Sep 23 2012, 12:38am

Views: 283

You know, because I'm Norwegian, I've grown up with that tale...? :P

The fields actually looks like there have been some trolls throwing rocks at each other! It's pretty cool ^^

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(This post was edited by painjoiker on Sep 23 2012, 12:39am)

Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Sep 23 2012, 12:40am

Views: 240

Very cool!

I was also familiar with the tale, having been a long-time student of Norse myth and folk tales. Loved that the Trollhunter film-makers worked it into the movie.

Haven't been to the site myself, but would like to.

painjoiker
Grey Havens

Sep 23 2012, 12:43am

Views: 233

Well, there are many such sites in Norway xD

And it was pretty cool to see all those tales I grew up with put into a story on film :)

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Ardamírë
Valinor

Sep 23 2012, 1:20am

Views: 240

Pretty sure it's a giant

But I really love that it's difficult to tell. Makes them very interesting Smile

Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator

Sep 23 2012, 6:48am

Views: 234

Either that, or it's a Gorignak.

*waits to see if anyone gets the reference*

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Sep 23 2012, 6:54am

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Sinister71
Tol Eressea

Sep 23 2012, 2:52pm

Views: 191

I hope thats correct

that the giants are still just throwing the rocks at each other instead of them trying to hinder Bilbo and the dwarves way. That would be an awful change IMO. But if the stone giants are merely playing some form of football I can live with that.

Hopefully they are just in the wrong place at the wrong time

(This post was edited by sinister71 on Sep 23 2012, 2:53pm)

DanielLB
Immortal

Sep 23 2012, 6:16pm

Views: 169

I'll go with the consensus then! ;-) /

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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Sep 23 2012, 6:38pm

Views: 158

Oh, darn

Oh...

Elessar
Valinor

Sep 23 2012, 6:46pm

Views: 155

Looking forward to seeing them

It's a quick part but after seeing what they could look like in the War in the North game I'm eager to see what they will look like.

totoro
Lorien

Sep 24 2012, 4:36am

Views: 180

Stone giants are dangerous, apparently

The dwarves were not simply afraid they would be hit by a boulder; they were afraid the stone giants would target them/pick them up and punt them. I don't think the dwarves could have caused the stone giant to stumble as shown in the trailer, though, so my guess is another stone giant beaned him with a boulder.

Reptile
Rivendell

Sep 25 2012, 12:55am

Views: 183

Galaxy Quest was a fun show

Probably too late for this comment to matter, but I did get your reference, and in fact I was thinking the same thing when I saw the stone giant falling down. Must be a distant relation.

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