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A (short) interview with Hugo Weaving



DanielLB
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Jul 20 2012, 4:57pm


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A (short) interview with Hugo Weaving

The following website interviewed Hugo Weaving recently on his most defining roles; one of which was Elrond.

http://www.avclub.com/...elrond-matrix,82705/

A snippet:


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Well, tonally, I think the film [The Hobbit] is slightly different, but the experience didn’t seem radically different, to be honest. If anything, it was slightly more green-screen and slightly less set.



The LOTR/TH questions are only short, and don't contain anything we don't already know Smile

Enjoy!


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jul 21 2012, 2:24am


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Not sure about all this CG! //

 


flowww
Bree

Jul 21 2012, 3:48am


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Yeah...

I really hope that the technology has advanced to the point, and that Peter's direction has enough of the human touch, to avoid the lifeless Star Wars Prequel effect.


DanielLB
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Jul 21 2012, 9:59am


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10 years ago, LOTR had some of the best CGI I had ever seen

With 10 years of development, I'm sure it will be excellent!


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jul 21 2012, 12:12pm


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I'm sure it has too

But if I could choose between real sets or more cgi, I'd of course choose the sets.


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jul 21 2012, 12:15pm


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I think the cgi of LotR is more comparable to the star wars prequels

Than the hobbit's cgi will be. And LOTR's cgi was way more realistic than star wars even ten years ago, so I don't worry about that.


DanielLB
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Jul 21 2012, 12:17pm


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Nothing will ever beat the feel of a set

But because of the advances in filming technology (HD etc..) (cheap) sets may not look as good on screen than CGI.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 21 2012, 2:48pm


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That's a great point

And we have already seen, in the trailer, how sets can look very cheap in high res (the first shot of Dol Guldur, and the Rivendell set with Gandalf and Galadriel).

If CGI can create a more realistic effect, then I'm all for it.

Someone recently posted a short video showing off the CGI work on Games of Thrones. Can someone find and repost that?


DanielLB
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Jul 21 2012, 3:25pm


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Is this it?

http://newboards.theonering.net/...ring=Thrones;#468306


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 21 2012, 3:27pm


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Yup, thanks!

 


DanielLB
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Jul 21 2012, 3:41pm


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It certainly is impressive CGI!

And as the OP said in the other forum, WETA can do it better!

It is a shame that "real" (rather than cheap) sets aren't made. That would be great, but it's just not financially viable.

I didn't think that scene with Gandriel looked particularly fake ... I'm most worried about Mirkwood (both the colour, and it looking like Fangorn...).


Finrod
Rohan


Jul 21 2012, 4:46pm


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"Real" "sets"


In Reply To
And as the OP said in the other forum, WETA can do it better!

It is a shame that "real" (rather than cheap) sets aren't made. That would be great, but it's just not financially viable.


The rebuilt Hobbiton set at Matamata is an example of a "real" set, made with real materials and meant to last. It was of course much more expensive that way. I've no doubt they hope to generate additional revenues through future site tourism to recoup that investment.

…all eyes looked upon the ring; for he held it now aloft, and the green jewels gleamed there that the Noldor had devised in Valinor. For this ring was like to twin serpents, whose eyes were emeralds, and their heads met beneath a crown of golden flowers, that the one upheld and the other devoured; that was the badge of Finarfin and his house.
The Silmarillion, pp 150-151
while Felagund laughs beneath the trees
in Valinor and comes no more
to this grey world of tears and war.
The Lays of Beleriand, p 311




DanielLB
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Jul 21 2012, 4:53pm


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Yes, Hobbiton is the exception

Dol Guldur made from real stone (not polystyrene) would look *amazing*. There's just no need for it though Frown


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 21 2012, 6:02pm


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Not sure why it is assumed that WETA can do better

As the CGI in Game of Thrones is excellent...

I'm sure WETA will do an excellent job, as they did in LOTR, but I can't imagine the static structures being much better than what we see in GoT.


DanielLB
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Jul 21 2012, 6:27pm


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Basing it on the fact it is a TV show, with a much lower budget /

 


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 21 2012, 6:32pm


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Why no need for it?

Why is it okay for Dol Guldur to look fake, while so much care and attention is paid to the Shire?

Sure, it would cost more to make a realistic Dol Guldur set. But doing it on the cheap is not a good option, IMO.

If that's the unfortunate reality of set-building, I'd rather they do the whole thing in CGI.


DanielLB
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Jul 21 2012, 6:37pm


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The Shire has only been made "real" for The Hobbit ...

and that's for tourism, and not for the film. It was all "fake" for the trilogy.

They couldn't make every set from real materials. It would be massively expensive. And what are people going to see ... a dark, run down fortress ... or the Shire?


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 21 2012, 9:09pm


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I don't mean fully real

I just mean with higher-quality materials, etc...

The Dol Guldur set looks like some cheaply-painted and sculprted polysterene, IMO... Ruins simply do not look like that.


DanielLB
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Jul 21 2012, 9:14pm


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Ahhh I see.

So not real stone, but something better than polystyrene? I'd agree to that Smile


artemy
Lorien


Jul 21 2012, 9:25pm


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Then can you suggest a better material for the job?

Something imin said a while ago springs to mind. We're none of us here the ones responsible for building these sets, or rendering the CGI.

When it's time to pray, we'll be dressed up all in grey, with metal on our tongues, and silver in our lungs


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 21 2012, 9:31pm


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Polysterene could do the trick

The real trick is getting the sculpting, painting, lighting and design right. In some of those shots, the stonework seems to have a rather one-note color to it, and not a lot of stone-like texture. I don't know what it is exactly, but it simply does not look very realistic.