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Magpie
Immortal


Jul 2 2012, 10:20pm


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Entertainment Weekly Hobbit cover

http://popwatch.ew.com/...t-comic-con-preview/



Quote
in preparation for Comic-Con (July 12-15 in San Diego) we’ve got exclusive images and on-set scoops from the first of the two movies— An Unexpected Journey — including interviews with Martin Freeman (Bilbo Baggins), Ian McKellen (Gandalf), and director Peter Jackson.


on stands Tuesday, July 3

and so the collecting begins.

I think I'll be stopping at Target on my way into work. :-)


EDIT TO ADD:
They're also posting '10 new photos'
http://www.ew.com/...133_20608420,00.html


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DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 2 2012, 10:27pm


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That cover is awful...

Is that the best they could do??

I'll still be buying it though. Thanks for the heads-up! Smile


Magpie
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Jul 2 2012, 10:27pm


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I just edited my post with a link to new photos, too. check it out. //

 


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DanielLB
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Jul 2 2012, 10:28pm


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Ahhh! New photos!!

  
The Dwarves in the barrels is my favourite picture! I don't care about the lids anymore Wink
Looks like they are keeping some of the psychedelic colours in Mirkwood.
And does Gollum look younger?


(This post was edited by DanielLB on Jul 2 2012, 10:33pm)


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 2 2012, 10:29pm


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Nice find!

From the EW site:

Nearly a decade after the last of the Lord of the Rings trilogy hit theaters, it’s time to go back to Middle-earth. The Hobbit doesn’t come out until December, but in preparation for Comic-Con (July 12-15 in San Diego) we’ve got exclusive images and on-set scoops from the first of the two movies— An Unexpected Journey — including interviews with Martin Freeman (Bilbo Baggins), Ian McKellen (Gandalf), and director Peter Jackson.

To expand the classic J.R.R. Tolkien book so that it could support two feature films, Jackson drew from a range of Tolkien’s writings, adding characters not present in the Hobbit book, including Orlando Bloom’s elf Legolas and Cate Blachett’s elven rule Galadriel. “In the movie we want these characters to have story lines and a little more substance than they do in the book,” Jackson explains. “Almost everything we’re doing is from Tolkien somewhere, whether it’s in the book or the subsequent development that wasn’t published in The Hobbit itself.”


Adds McKellan: “A lot of people weren’t even born when we were filming Lord of the Rings and only know the movies from watching them on DVD…. They’ll see Middle-earth on the big screen in The Hobbit, and I guarantee there will be a lot of minds blown wide apart.”


Seems like a must-have...and we're only going to have more and more mags to collect as we get closer to December. Shocked

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Jul 2 2012, 10:34pm)


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 2 2012, 10:32pm


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WOW! Those pics are exciting...

Particularly like the Dwarves in the cavern (in the vicinity of Goblin-town? The Trolls' lair?), and the new pic of Elrond looking at moon-letters in Rivendell! ShockedShockedShocked

And check out Gandy's silver scarf! Blush

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Jul 2 2012, 10:35pm)


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 2 2012, 10:35pm


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They're truly great!

The shot of the Dwarves could be them approaching the Misty Mountains - it's similar to one of the shots in the vlogs with thunder and lightning.

I have to say, each of the dwarves look great in that shot. Even Kili!


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 2 2012, 10:38pm


Views: 13541
They do...

And agreed that the colors are still there in Mirkwood, just somewhat muted. I love the psychedelic approach, personally...very lush, almost painterly...but a bit intimidating and exotic. Wink

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


imin
Valinor


Jul 2 2012, 10:38pm


Views: 13475
How do you find out about all these things? :)

really cool to see all the new photos. Elrond looks like he had a good night out, haha. They look great, feels like its going to be forever before the films get here Tongue


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 2 2012, 10:42pm


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I like it too.

I never really imagined Mirkwood that way, but I'm open for ideas!

Does look odd though with light shining on Bilbo and not the surroundings Wink


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 2 2012, 10:51pm


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I can't help but see the resemblance between these two photos

http://www.ew.com/...420,00.html#21179588

http://www.google.co.uk/...=1t:429,r:7,s:0,i:95

Laugh

Must be deliberate


Carne
Tol Eressea

Jul 2 2012, 10:51pm


Views: 13268
I want bigger versions!

And seeing as "The Hobbit" is the main bit in the magazine I assume we'll get some new information! Is it already for sale?


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 2 2012, 10:53pm


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On sale tomorrow (July 3rd)

Unless someone already has it in NZ or Australia? Or a very keen shop?


imin
Valinor


Jul 2 2012, 10:54pm


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Not how i imagined but it looks good.

I imagined it darker in mirkwood but then a film of shadowy figures and sound for however long would be very dull. I thought the colours were like that though for the RED cameras or is this photo how it will be when we see it on film?


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 2 2012, 10:55pm


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Not sure, but since it's a promotional shot (and probably not an actual scene), it will probably look different /

 


imin
Valinor


Jul 2 2012, 10:55pm


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24 hour Asda here i come :P //

 


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 2 2012, 10:57pm


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I was thinking the exact same thing!

Hope you can get a copy, and they're not going to put them out on shelves in a couple of hours.


imin
Valinor


Jul 2 2012, 10:57pm


Views: 13546
oh ok

Like you said in an earlier post i think the lighting is off a little but as for the colours i like them. Though i think i would be equally happy with more regular forest colours as well. Really looking forward to seeing how they do mirkwood on film, very exciting!


Carne
Tol Eressea

Jul 2 2012, 10:59pm


Views: 13333
Will probably be darker as mentioned.

These photos are taken by photographers behind the camera, so it will look different in the actual movie.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 2 2012, 11:04pm


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Comingsoon has a bigger shot of the front cover

http://www.comingsoon.net/...vienews.php?id=92148

It's still awful, mind.

The pictures inside more than make up for it though


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 2 2012, 11:04pm


Views: 13498
True...

I hope enough of the color is left in to be noticeable...

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Magpie
Immortal


Jul 2 2012, 11:05pm


Views: 13334
ew.com is one of the few sites I visit often

Many times a day, I'm embarrassed to admit. But I enjoy entertainment news and I like their recaps of certain shows. So when I hit the site before leaving my computer for dinner prep, I found the mag cover article... posted it here and sent it to spymaster. Then I found the 10 new pictures. I edited my post quite a few times because I kept updating the info as I was discovering or exploring it.

I think we should watch the interwebs (winks at SirDennisC) because I suspect there will be more releases of info, interviews, and/or pictures on various sites leading up to ComicCon.

What sites have had significant news/photos - besides TORn - up till now?

MTV (I think?)
Empire?


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Magpie
Immortal


Jul 2 2012, 11:07pm


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It might be worth doing google images searches every so often

If one takes a screenshot (I can't figure out how to get at those images in slideshows like that... which I think is the point), crop it down, and then do a search for similar photos on the web, we might find large ones when they get posted.

But we have so many resourceful people finding goodies on the net I have no doubt someone will find some.


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DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 2 2012, 11:10pm


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I usually use google to keep an eye out for news

I search "The Hobbit" across the web but limit it to the last hour. The majority of the time it's just general webpages talking about The Hobbit, occasionally their will be a piece of news of interest (it's how I found the Weaving interview). I do this regularly throughout the day, and will be making sure I do it more often in the coming weeks Smile


Carne
Tol Eressea

Jul 2 2012, 11:11pm


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Get on Twitter!

There's always something new popping up there, and no need to search around for it Cool


Magpie
Immortal


Jul 2 2012, 11:14pm


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It's interesting to note that ew.com has disabled comments for their post

This is an unusual step for them. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever seen it happen before - although I probably read only a fraction of posts on that site.

I've seen very contentious issues allowing comments and all of the Hobbit posts up till now have allowed comments. I'm not sure why this one isn't.


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DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 2 2012, 11:14pm


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Nah, it seems like to much hassle

Facebook is annoying as it is. The last thing I need in my life is another social network site where people tell me what they're doing every 5 minutes Wink


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 2 2012, 11:19pm


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You can still comment on the pictures though /

 


LordMaximus
Rivendell


Jul 2 2012, 11:26pm


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Thorin's sword looks pretty cool in that photo! //

 


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 2 2012, 11:36pm


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I hope not

These pictures look great, but if the colors in Mirkwood do actually show up like that, it will be almost impossible for me to even watch it. Psychedlics might be somewhat appropriate for Lewis Carroll, but not Tolkien, IMO.

I think they won't be as garish as this photo, however, and I base that primarily on the shot of Bilbo in the spiders' den from the teaser trailer, where the colors seem to all be dark blues and black.

Yes, the tone of the Hobbit is different, but I hope they don't take that to be an invitation for 20th century style surrealism.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 2 2012, 11:40pm


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Love the photo of the dwarves in the cavern

Very delighted to see that they'll be donning their hooded cloaks from time to time, as we have not seen that until now. Fili, Kili and Nori look great, and quite dwarvish, with their hoods on!

My only worry is that those rocks don't look particularly real...but that's a minor quibble.


(This post was edited by Shelob'sAppetite on Jul 2 2012, 11:47pm)


Gimli1252
Bree


Jul 2 2012, 11:47pm


Views: 10342
Who is that odd little fellow, disguised as Bilbo Baggins ? :-P //

 

''There is one dwarf yet in Moria, who still draws breath''


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 3 2012, 12:17am


Views: 10350
photos

Ok, first of all, Thank you Magpie!!! You have given me that strangely familiar warm feeling of excitement that only this universe and these movies can give me...even if its just for
a few minutes Unimpressed...

I was so excited to finally see our first decent, colourfull behind the scenes photos! Gandalf looks so pleased with himself! Am i the only one feels these photos have an air of freshness about them? It really does feel like a different yet familiar story...

Fili and Kili look very dwarvish to me...and thats because its different to see them in character rather in some Durin's Playboy magazine pose Cool

Elrond....what have you been drinking??Wink

And GOLLUMM! My god, i didnt expect to see him! Does anyone else feels like he looks...younger or ...nicerCrazy? He looks...cute!Wink Precious is a beauty isnt he?

Love Gandalfs scarf. Very Istari Wink

And finally...Thorin...Wow!! Doesnt he look different from that very initial photo a year ago?? Or even from the teaser?
A great hero photo... Smile

Now, when the magazine comes out do you think we will have HI Res bigger images? These are soooo small. And some of us cannot buy the magazine...

DanielB , we have similar habitsWink


JWPlatt
Grey Havens


Jul 3 2012, 12:37am


Views: 10341
RED

Why does everyone seem to have forgotten the video where they explain the psycho colors? That they are compensation for the RED Epic flat cameras? That it will appear more muted in the finished film?

Gosh. One photo and folks go wild with amnesia.


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 3 2012, 12:42am


Views: 10412
I don't think they'd have included the colors in the set's design if they weren't going to remain at least slightly in the actual film...

The colors aren't distracting in the EW picture IMO (like the look at it there) and as mentioned, they'll likely be more muted in the final product.

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


artemy
Lorien


Jul 3 2012, 1:01am


Views: 10647
Those pictures!

So exciting, I love them all, especially the intricate amount of detail the camera seems to be picking up (the pattern on Elrond's robe for instance). Gollum looks amazing, and significantly younger and less creepy than usual. It's good to see the four on the cliff wearing their hoods and the two hot ones looking particularly dwarvish, as well as that golden shot of them all peeping out of their barrels Laugh

The different colours and tones of each setting are still very prominent, which is something I liked about the trilogy. And are those grey streaks I see in Thorin's hair? The quest must be stressing him out...

~Beneath the sun, all things must wear to an end at last~

(This post was edited by artemy on Jul 3 2012, 1:02am)


Jim
Rivendell


Jul 3 2012, 1:14am


Views: 11094
Cool!...(Spoilers!)

Great to finally see some photos from the movies, its been a long time, my take on them..

Photo 1 - Bilbo in Mirkwood, probably rescuing the dwarves from the spiders, is that a dead spider over his left shoulder upside down?
Photo 2 - Gandalf standing outside Bag End
Photo 3 - Since its from the first film it has to be the "High Pass" over the misty mountains
Photo 4 - Elrond reading Thrain's map to find the secret door with Bilbo and Thorin in the background
Photo 5 - Galadriel (Same shot from the trailer)
Photo 6 - Dwarves in barrels in the Elven King wine cellar. Note that Bofur is the only one still wearing his hat and Balin is on top!
Photo 7 - Gollum looking all innocent.
Photos 8, 9 and 10 - Bilbo, Gandalf and Thorin all posing, Thorin looks badass!


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 1:15am


Views: 10430
Just curious

What was it that made the 'hot' dwarves look undwarfish before but now they look most definitely like dwarfs? I'm not having a go or anything I'm just curious.

To me a big factor was the lack of beards with fili and kili. I think kili still looks like a man rather than a dwarf, just a man with a hood on. Saying that i do really like the costume design.

The others look more dwarf like, the lighting is working well for fili (Dean O'Gorman's bone structure looks good and strong, perhaps dwarf like?)


On another note bilbos feet look disproportionately large. I know people think hobbits had large feet but they didnt, apart from Mr Proudfoot and probably his family. But i also realise it would jar to have bilbo having a regular length of foot when in the LOTR they had long feet.


(This post was edited by imin on Jul 3 2012, 1:22am)


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 3 2012, 1:15am


Views: 10005
image names

If you can find the photographer, or the original image name, you can search that way. That's how I got the largest images of Bilbo and the contract.


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 3 2012, 1:19am


Views: 9723
Curious

What do you dislike about it??


ElendilTheShort
Gondor

Jul 3 2012, 1:24am


Views: 9911
I'm digging Orcrist

let the sword cravings begin


Jim
Rivendell


Jul 3 2012, 1:27am


Views: 10681
Its a beauty...

but Anduril will always be number one to me.


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 1:28am


Views: 10382
Yeah it looks great

I don't buy movie memorabilia/replicas now like i did as a young teen but i might have to make an exception for Orcrist!

I have no knowledge of swords and i am just curious about Orcrist. Would its shape effect how it is used or how effective it is?


Carne
Tol Eressea

Jul 3 2012, 1:28am


Views: 10256
Feet

In the Empire Magazine Hobbit exclusive last year Jackson mentioned Bilbo having massive hobbit feet. I'm not sure why, but they do indeed look huge.


(This post was edited by Carne on Jul 3 2012, 1:28am)


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 1:41am


Views: 10502
Elrond and Gollum look odd...

Just me?

"...For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth"


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 3 2012, 1:42am


Views: 8171
reply to DarkJackal

I think daniel meant the horrible look on bilbos face..its his eyes...i dont know they look weird..he looks weird , very weird...


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 3 2012, 1:46am


Views: 8051
reply to Quackingtroll

No, not just you...i think Elrond looks a bit younger...Gollum...i have been looking at older pics of him...and at the risk of sounding premature, i think this new gollum looks much better..in terms of skin, details, with a real feel of being there...also, he looks kinda cute Wink maybe its a smeagol moment..or Bilbo just showed him his Winner of Boar Competition small cup as a proof hes a real hobbit!


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 3 2012, 1:48am


Views: 10677
They both look pretty much identical to me...

...by which I mean Elrond and Gollum look identical to each other of course. Evil

Elrond does look a bit shiny, but I think it's the lighting.

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 1:55am


Views: 10171
Elrond looks abit older to me

Like others and myself have said i think it looks like he has had a night on the town before this photo was taken (tired, dark eyes, complexion) but then he is portrayed by a human who has aged so its going to happen and its only a tiny amount nothing major, barely noticeable until i compared to Hugo from LOTR.


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 3 2012, 2:03am


Views: 10235
Something about Orcrist

Imin asked: "I have no knowledge of swords and i am just curious about Orcrist. Would its shape effect how it is used or how effective it is? "

Without a cross-section of the sword it's hard to know exactly, but a while back I wrote a bit about it here:

http://thorinoakenshield.net/...the-sword-of-thorin/

But ElendiltheShort can tell you better how the blades that look similar to it function.


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 3 2012, 2:03am


Views: 8030
reply

Curious...my first impression of hugo was that he looks younger! But i suppose even if we notice hes older, well, thats unavoidable...


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 2:04am


Views: 10389
Gollum...

I like how Gollum looks similar to the iconic 'fish' picture... The one which PJ said most closely resembled his vision of Gollum.

"...For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth"


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 2:09am


Views: 10050
Yeah i think overall its barely noticeable

I think he probably just needs a good nights sleep, haha


Apexman13
Bree


Jul 3 2012, 2:13am


Views: 10363
a still from motion.

Its always hard to judge the appearance of someone in a still. Elrond is looking down and contemplating, probably about to look up and say something. and Gollums eyes are definitely different-larger due to being in the cave no doubt. Im sure everything will look different in motion.


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 2:14am


Views: 10217
Thank you for that.

Very interesting to read and the site overall looks fantastic as well Smile Its nice to know the sword design has been thoroughly thought through, though i knew it would i didnt know the reasoning behind it but now i do, so cheers for that!


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 2:25am


Views: 10194
Gollum in motion...

I can tell already, Gollum's face is going to move much more realistically in this film. Facial motion-capture has come a long way since LotR, this photo excites me more than the others. Cannot wait!

"...For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth"


eralkfang
Lorien


Jul 3 2012, 2:27am


Views: 10357
How exciting!

The cover is off, but the rest of the photos are glorious—I'm especially fond of the last photo of Thorin, because that is a Dwarven King.

Gollum's face does seem to be a bit off to me, but I've just rewatched the films and technology does march on; a 2003 Gollum would look odd next to 2012 spiders and the like, even though the concept tempts me…


Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Jul 3 2012, 3:00am


Views: 10230
Nice catch!

It's also interesting to compare the two staffs (staves?). I love, love, love the flame-top design of Gandalf's Hobbit staff - a great nod Narya.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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duats
Grey Havens

Jul 3 2012, 3:04am


Views: 10523
The shot of Gandalf in the Shire

Is the best of the bunch. Unquestionably.


Lissuin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 4:57am


Views: 10482
The dwarves' hood colors

A few of them seem to have the colors from the book:
Kili - blue
Dori - purple cape and, I assume, hood
Ori - grey
Oin - grey
Gloin - his coat is brown anyway
Balin - dark red coat

6 out of 13? And you're obsessing about this why, Lissuin?!Tongue

Thanks, Magpie. Fun pics.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 3 2012, 5:15am


Views: 10726
Does anyone (you) actually read what posters write?

Since you responded to me, I will have to reiterate an important part of my post:


Quote
I think they won't be as garish as this photo, however, and I base that primarily on the shot of Bilbo in the spiders' den from the teaser trailer, where the colors seem to all be dark blues and black.


As these EW photos are not actual shots from the film, but behind-the-scenes, I assumed that this was the reason for the colors still being rather garish. The teaser reveals a much muter palette, and from watching the relevant vlog, I am aware that this is largely due to RED Epics eating color.

So please, before you spout off insulting tripe, try actually reading the posts you're responding to.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 3 2012, 5:40am


Views: 9976
In what way?

IMO, they look almost identical to themselves in LOTR...


JWPlatt
Grey Havens


Jul 3 2012, 6:23am


Views: 10039
Welll...

Actually, yes, I read it.

My reply was a rhetorical question to you about others' posts and not a question at you. I took advantage of your post, being one of the few lacking amnesia, as an open post to all the others suffering from said amnesia. In other words I was spouting insulting tripe to the other posts while pretending to talk to you. I think you misunderstood. Does that make it any better?

Evil


(This post was edited by JWPlatt on Jul 3 2012, 6:25am)


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 3 2012, 6:41am


Views: 10147
I hate all this photoshopped crap!

Look at Bilbo on the cover... he looks horribly tanned. And what's with his "Come hither!" look on that cheeky face!? And why is the entire picture elongated!?

I wonder what the deal is with overusing Photoshop. They also went overboard with the Dwarf pics we got last year.

I just wish they'd stick with the natural photographs like they did with LOTR. The overuse of Photoshop is, imo, ridiculous when it's so freaking obvious.

I'm stuck between geeky excitement and cringing Unimpressed



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Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 3 2012, 6:45am


Views: 10308
Ha!

It only makes it better, in the sense that I understand you were doing the opposite of insulting me. I apologize for the misunderstanding (quite typical of internet communications).

But you should not go around insulting other people.

Honestly! Smile


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 6:48am


Views: 9989
Definitely similar to Sting and not Glamdring ... /

 


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 6:49am


Views: 10382
Elrond looks like he needs a good sleep, and Gollum looks younger! /

 


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 6:51am


Views: 10516
Overused photoshop

Bilbo looks like a peeping Tom, and Gandalf just looks plain ridiculous. Bilbo looks very silly next to Gandalf. Poor photoshopping if you ask me Wink


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 6:52am


Views: 10182
Did you get a copy of the magazine yet? /

 


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 6:52am


Views: 10108
I hadn't connected the flame design with Narya! Good call! /

 


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 6:53am


Views: 9869
I agree Earl.

The cover leaves a bad taste in my mouth Unimpressed Wink


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 3 2012, 6:53am


Views: 10050
Okay that needs to go on gramma's Geeky Observation List :o) //

 



The Plan 9 Interview... in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the release of The Fellowship of the Ring.


JWPlatt
Grey Havens


Jul 3 2012, 6:56am


Views: 9975
Taste

It always comes back to food, doesn't it?


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 7:04am


Views: 10080
With me it does

Wink
How about visual pollution?


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 3 2012, 7:59am


Views: 10334
Bilbo the Creeper

Great, now I'm going to think of that when I look at it.

Without doubt it struck me more positively. Bilbo just looks like "Screw with me and my wizard will mess you up!"


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 3 2012, 8:04am


Views: 10274
I know how Elrond feels

Also Gollum looks like he's trying to do unbearably cute kitten eyes. I think it's making me a little sick.


dormouse
Half-elven


Jul 3 2012, 8:07am


Views: 12109
Thanks for that, Magpie!

Much appreciated.

Good to see dwarves with hoods on. Gandalf in the Shire. Elrond. Barrels. All of it, really.

But the thing that catches my eye most is this:

To expand the classic J.R.R. Tolkien book so that it could support two feature films, Jackson drew from a range of Tolkien’s writings, adding characters not present in the Hobbit book, including Orlando Bloom’s elf Legolas and Cate Blachett’s elven rule Galadriel. “In the movie we want these characters to have story lines and a little more substance than they do in the book,” Jackson explains. “Almost everything we’re doing is from Tolkien somewhere, whether it’s in the book or the subsequent development that wasn’t published in The Hobbit itself.”
(quoted from Captain Salt's post on page 1)

So... Legolas and Galadriel - and presumably, by implication, others not in The Hobbit book will have story lines and almost all the new/expanded material will be drawn from somewhere in Tolkien's writings. I am really, really intrigued now to see what it is that they've done. It sounds as if they might have negotiated permission to use something from Unfinished Tales, though he may just be referring to the Appendices. I'm curious, anyway, and I like the emphasis he places on sticking to Tolkien.


Xanaseb
Tol Eressea


Jul 3 2012, 9:19am


Views: 10081
LOL Lusitano hilarious post :D //

SlyLaugh

Gollum does look more innocent in that shot I do admit. I souldn't say that he looks overly younger though.

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Tol Eressea


Jul 3 2012, 9:30am


Views: 10133
So the first movie ends ...spolier

Reading the article the images seem to be of the first film, so i presume that an unexpected journey ends, when the journey actually ends, when they arrive to the last scenario, laketown and the mountain, after that i suposse we only have there and back againTongue


ElendilTheShort
Gondor

Jul 3 2012, 9:38am


Views: 10817
Imin

although the blade may look cumbersome, done correctly it would start out thicker at the guard, say 6 to 7 mm on the spine of the blade which is the edge opposite the cutting edge of the blade, and gradually taper to be only 2mm thick at the spine for the last section of the blade. So even though the end of the blade is very wide, it is very thin in cross section, meaning that the cutting planes are very acute to the edge, perfect for cleaving goblins.

Thorin must be showing the sword off to some ladies or something, if not and that is meant to be a guarding position it is terrible. I don't care about that as much as I care about this being the best shot so far of Orcrist. From a collecting point of view I am so glad they made it so different and distinctive, I really hope UC or whoever does it really do it justice.


ElendilTheShort
Gondor

Jul 3 2012, 9:47am


Views: 9986
Gollum

should look much healthier and younger because although the One Ring had stretched out his life at the time of the hobbit he was, better fed, not exhausted by years of travel, relatively comfortable and fearless in what he had made his home, in possession of the One Ring as opposed to being wretched for decades about it's loss and finally he had not been subjected to the torture he suffeted in Barad-dur. So relatively speaking TH Gollum was quite the catch as opposed to LOTR Gollum.


(This post was edited by ElendilTheShort on Jul 3 2012, 9:49am)


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 10:00am


Views: 9925
Yes he should

It's the improved technology and "cutesie" eyes that make him look younger. I wouldn't expect to look older Wink

It's a shame they didn't give him slightly more hair.


ElendilTheShort
Gondor

Jul 3 2012, 10:17am


Views: 10265
And a few more teeth

as well as being quite ripped and buffed having a regular and extensive boating and swimming exercise regime while maintaing a high protein fish and orc meat diet. Gollum the jock.


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 10:47am


Views: 10317
No couldnt get one :(

I went to two supermarkets as well! I thought now im out im going to get one but the dont have any not even the last issue :(

I think i will have to give it a few days or wait til someone gets it on here Tongue


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 10:53am


Views: 10275
Thank you for explaining about the sword

I did think it looked cool but as you say a little cumbersome but i think that's because i haven't seen a great deal of swords and when someone says sword to me i think of a medieval broadsword.

Its good to know that it has been properly designed (as i also found out from DarkJackal).

Is there any advantage to having the cutting edge of the blade only on one side? Or is it more effective at cutting through things due to having that spine and then very fine cutting edge?


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 11:22am


Views: 9985
I'm going to go to my local supermarket after work and try and get one

Were they big supermarkets? Some small ones take a while to refresh their magazine stands


ElendilTheShort
Gondor

Jul 3 2012, 11:23am


Views: 10139
The single edge

allows for more acute bevels when considering equivalent widths of blades. The European medieval equivalent or similar is the Falchion or also Messers. Unfortunately cutting effectiveness is not a quick explanation but it enough to say these types of single edged weapons were more effective cutters than many of their contemporary two edged cousins. But cutting is just one of many numerous aspects of a sword as a weapon and two edged weapons were much more common in Europe. Whether this was due to overall superiority as a weapon, ease of construction or some other unknown factor is anyones guess. For example why were single edges more commonly found in Eastern cultures? One disadvantage of single edged weapons is some such as one I own have no back edge, and there are many considerations for attack with the back edge of a two edged weapon. So there are obvious benefits and drawbacks for both single and two edged weapons but the truth is no one, even sword scholars know anywhere near all the truths. Swords evolved due to development in armour, that much is obvious but there was still reasonable diversity. Know this much, there is not much evidence that swords did much or any cutting through armour. Some swords were designed to thrust throughs gaps in armour, but generally successful cut attacks were to unprotected or poorly protected body parts, so next time you see a sword slice or cleave theough maille (chain mail) or plates of armour on TV or at the movies, do not believe that is how it happened.


(This post was edited by ElendilTheShort on Jul 3 2012, 11:27am)


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jul 3 2012, 11:27am


Views: 10127
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imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 11:35am


Views: 10239
One normal sized, one small

I went to my local but normal sized Tesco, then went to my very local small Asda. There is a massive Asda but its the other side of the city and im not going all that way for a magazine!

I think you will find it, it probably just hadn't been put out yet, though i am surprised with Tesco.


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 11:39am


Views: 10571
Haha, i will pick up on every fault now!

Thanks for explaining again! I find it really interesting, i think i will have to look into it, in more depth. Would love to try out a proper sword (not on someone!) but just swinging it around and training with someone.

If the sword hits chain mail, would it cause an impact/crushing injury or be a little ineffective?


aifeme
Rivendell


Jul 3 2012, 12:10pm


Views: 10548
Kili

I just cannot stand him. Kili's design really makes me sad and bothers me a lot.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 12:20pm


Views: 10177
What bothers you about Kili?

He has grown on me so much since last year.


aifeme
Rivendell


Jul 3 2012, 12:27pm


Views: 10180
You really don't know?

I mean it's obvious...Kili is just a shortened elf with bigger ears and palms. He doesn't fit completely, I don't know why PJ doesn't realise that.


Macfeast
Rohan

Jul 3 2012, 12:40pm


Views: 9990
The shot of...

...Gollum really took me by surprise. I don't know why, but for some reason I was expecting them to keep him "in the dark" until the movie. Yet there he was, all out in the open, staring at us with these unbearably cute kitten eyes Tongue

It's a shame that the pictures were not in higher resolution. I would love to get a closer look at Orcrist; That's probably the best shot we have of it.


(This post was edited by Macfeast on Jul 3 2012, 12:43pm)


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 12:48pm


Views: 10028
I wanted to confirm what you thought was wrong with him /

 


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 12:57pm


Views: 10272
What did you not like about him before but now dont mind/like?

I asked this question on page 2 but the other poster hasn't been back on here as far as i am aware.

My initial reasons for not liking him was i felt he looked way too much like a man/elf with no beard and just didn't look stocky enough to be a dwarf, but mainly i felt it was the lack of beard and just his face wasn't dwarvish.

I understand though they have made him this way to get the ladies to like the hot dwarf and probably to just show he is younger.

I have come to accept that is how he looks and when i watch the films it wont ruin my enjoyment of them at all as i will just accept that's how he looks. But i still think he looks like a man rather than a dwarf, though like i said in the previous post the costume they are all wearing are excellent.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 1:05pm


Views: 10262
I thought this too

When the pictures of the Dwarves were released, I was disappointed most by Kili, and thought the same as you:


Quote

My initial reasons for not liking him was i felt he looked way too much like a man/elf with no beard and just didn't look stocky enough to be a dwarf, but mainly i felt it was the lack of beard and just his face wasn't dwarvish.



Now I am use to seeing Kili, and quite like the way he looks. Yes he's not how I imagined, but there are many things with the LOTR trilogy that I didn't imagine, and they still worked brilliantly. Plus, this promo picture is far better then that awful thing we got to start out with:

http://www.ew.com/...420,00.html#21179590


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 1:13pm


Views: 9971
Yeah fair enough

I think that is fairly similar to how i feel - accepted but not what was imagined by either of us. Like you said there were parts of the LOTR which i didnt imagine them to look or be as they were but i feel they worked out for the better which are the little parts of the film i try to keep in mind when i re-read the LOTR.

The promo shots of pretty much all of them were terrible! Made Thorin look like a Klingon! Now i have seen him in the trailer i really like the look Thorin has and like we have said Orcrist looks incredible. Fili has grown on me, in that i think in the latest photos he looks more dwarf like to me, i think Kili is just going to take that little bit longer to go from accepting to kinda liking, lol. I actually thought Aiden Turner looked better with his beard he grew himself but maybe they tried it out and felt its too much for the youngest dwarf for the films.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 1:21pm


Views: 10770
Edit: wrong picture linked

I meant this one:

http://www.theonering.net/...bit/characters/kili/


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 1:22pm


Views: 9775
He's certainly not my favourite dwarf

And I still like his look the least, but he's grown on me, which is a good thing (I suppose) Wink


aifeme
Rivendell


Jul 3 2012, 1:32pm


Views: 10069
And how about You?

What's Your opinion now?


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 1:38pm


Views: 10048
I had the same opinion when we first saw the Dwarves

But he has grown on me. He's certainly not my favourite dwarf, both in terms of looks and the character itself. In that respect, I'm not that bothered whether he looks like a traditional dwarf or not. While I still like him the least, he has grown on me, and I think he looks great in the promotional shot.

I think a lot of people were put off by this poor photoshop job:

http://www.theonering.net/...bit/characters/kili/

Luckily, there won't be a fan following Kili throughout the film.


(This post was edited by DanielLB on Jul 3 2012, 1:44pm)


Magpie
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 1:40pm


Views: 10698
I had to read that three times ...

before I realized you weren't talking about a fan of the movies... but an air blowing device!


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Luckily, there wont be a fan following Kili throughout the film.



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Morok Cloudkeeper
Rohan


Jul 3 2012, 1:43pm


Views: 10869
Gollum's face

Anyone else think that Gollum has got a whole new cute look to his face? Kind of innocent I suppose. Smile

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DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 3 2012, 1:44pm


Views: 11081
Guard position

ElendiltheShort wrote: "Thorin must be showing the sword off to some ladies or something, if not and that is meant to be a guarding position it is terrible. I don't care about that as much as I care about this being the best shot so far of Orcrist."

LOL! When the percentage of your female population is only 1/3 of the total, you do whatever you can to impress them!

I also like to think he is taking pity on the sword-obsessed by finally giving us a good look at the whole blade. It's been almost a year since the teaser photo of it.



DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 1:45pm


Views: 10311
hahaha! I was hoping that would happen to someone!

Sly
I had to edit my poor grammar though. Wink


dormouse
Half-elven


Jul 3 2012, 1:55pm


Views: 10270
I keep seeing people say this...

...and I still don't understand. Kili is nothing like an elf. He has a moustache and beard, albeit a slight one. And though I know Tolkien's elves had dark as well as fair hair, in terms of the film designs he doesn't look remotely elf-like because the film elves all use such effective hair straighteners.

He's not much like Gimli was, it's true, and if that's your image of a dwarf then I can see there's a problem but one thing's for sure, he ain't no elf.


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 3 2012, 1:55pm


Views: 10265
And I didn't get it until I read your post...

... sometimes I should stop breaking my head over trivial things like this Tongue



The Plan 9 Interview... in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the release of The Fellowship of the Ring.


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 3 2012, 1:56pm


Views: 10127
Fans following him

Great pun. I was just thinking that if anyone will have a massive fan following once the movie opens, it's going to be Kili.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 1:56pm


Views: 10101
We all know what Gollum looks like though


In Reply To
...Gollum really took me by surprise. I don't know why, but for some reason I was expecting them to keep him "in the dark" until the movie. Yet there he was, all out in the open, staring at us with these unbearably cute kitten eyes Tongue

No need to keep him hidden before the releaseSmile


(This post was edited by DanielLB on Jul 3 2012, 1:57pm)


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 3 2012, 1:57pm


Views: 10435
Well you got me...

... luckily I saw Magpie's post below yours (I'm always viewing in Flat mode) and had my eureka moment Laugh



The Plan 9 Interview... in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the release of The Fellowship of the Ring.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 3 2012, 2:07pm


Views: 10728
Indeed, and some other thoughts on dwarves and such

Though I apologized for the misinterpretation.

Nonetheless, I'm not sure I insulted anyone, or have ever deliberately insulted anyone. My inclination is to focus on the issues being discussed, not the people discussing them. I get a bit agitated when people turn the focus to the poster, rather than the post, and that is at the root of this most recent outburst of sorts.

Re: dwarf looks.

Kili: He is also my least favorite dwarf, though I have certainly gotten used to him. I also think the costume design is very effective, which at least gives the illusion of him being a dwarf.

Fili: I really like Fili's design, all around. He was not nearly my favorite when the original promos were released, but he's now one of my favorites (particularly since he's not over-burdened with prosthetics). That's what a young dwarf should look like!

Dori: I just realized how Japanese-inspired his hair and beard seem to be. There's something quite samurai about him, and it works.

Nori: I also like his look more and more. Ridiculous hairdos were common among Dark Age peoples of all sorts (particularly those who could afford to fuss), and I don't see why dwarves couldn't be consistent with that. He also looks very convincing with his hood on.

Thorin: He is my favorite dwarf of the bunch, design-wise (and actor-wise, though I also love Ken Stott, James Nesbitt, and think Graham McTavish has lots of potential).

I have to say, I hope the dwarves wear their hoods for a good portion of the films, as it truly does suit them!

Re: Gollum

As others have noted, he looks almost exactly as he did in the Forbidden Pool, when Frodo calls out to him. Remember, he did get a bit cutesy after he banished his alter-ego, and perhaps he will have more of that personality in the Hobbit. Probably because it's a still-frame, he does seem a tad more cartoonish than I remember, but I'm not worried that WETA won't deliver on this front.

Re: Cover

Bilbo looks very creepy there - like he's a little too happy to see me.... Though I do not see what's wrong with Gandalf. He looks great, as usual.

Re: Mirkwood

No matter what final colors come through, I'm not a big fan of the forest's design (as far as I have seen it). It all looks far too much like an artificial movie set, and I was rather hoping to get something more realistic.

All in all, I'm quite excited by a few measly pictures in a magazine. Am I crazy?


Xanaseb
Tol Eressea


Jul 3 2012, 2:08pm


Views: 11833
That was a brilliant joke Daniel ROFL //

 

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DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 2:16pm


Views: 10450
The list grows!

And I know your not supposed to laugh at your own jokes, but I did find it funny as I was typing it Wink


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 2:18pm


Views: 11172
Gandalf


In Reply To
Though I do not see what's wrong with Gandalf. He looks great, as usual.

It's the hair - not sure exactly, but it looks like he's had to much hairspray or something. Why is it so light (as in weight, not brightness) and airy? And I really don't like how they've shrunk Bilbo into that corner. Is it supposed to be to scale?


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 2:23pm


Views: 11344
Think its meant to be to scale

Oh and good joke Daniel, made me laugh especially reading everyone else having to read it 2,3 times!


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 2:25pm


Views: 10440
If Bilbo wasn't so creepy and eyeing me up everytime

The whole scale thing would probably work.

Heck, why am I complaining? They gave us 10 new pictures! Cool


aifeme
Rivendell


Jul 3 2012, 2:26pm


Views: 10371
I have seen this pic of course.

But there's a lot of him in production diary, and still he's not dwarvish enough for me. I think I'm just going to focus on everybody else when watching the movie:)
CheersCool


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 3 2012, 2:29pm


Views: 11274
Anyone have scans of the full article?

Or at least have read the text, and can report on it?


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 2:32pm


Views: 10342
We have seen him quite a bit in the vlogs

But not always in full costume or on set (or for a promo picture). He does come across a lot better in this than in the vlogs Smile


artemy
Lorien


Jul 3 2012, 2:44pm


Views: 10385
In terms of the "hot dwarves"

I'm on the same page as several others here in that, while originally I didn't think Kili looked very dwarf-like (too lean, quite pointed features, silky hair and virtually no beard), his design has grown on me and I'm much more accepting of it now having seen him in the vlogs and such. I've never been as sceptical about Fili but my first impression wasn't that great either - now I love his look and have no problem with it. After all, where does it say that the dwarves are a completely homogeneous race? There can't be thirteen Gimli clones.

I was just commenting on how it struck me that in that picture, with their hoods on and so forth, they look very dwarfish, and that my opinion of them has come a long way since the early days.

~Beneath the sun, all things must wear to an end at last~

(This post was edited by artemy on Jul 3 2012, 2:45pm)


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 3 2012, 2:50pm


Views: 10095
I advocated against 13 Gimli clones from the beginning

But did feel that there were certain baselines to uphold - such as all of them having relatively long beards.

I still think Fili, Kili and Bofur should have more substantial facial hair, but can certainly live with them.

Also, I think the design team outdid themselves with creating some truly distinctive looks. This will make for a much more interesting film than it may have otherwise, IMO.

My guess is that despite Bifur's ridiculous axe-head ornament, and Bombur's overdone fat suit, they will be fan favorites...

And Kili will be loved by the 13-17 year old female crowd.


Macfeast
Rohan

Jul 3 2012, 2:52pm


Views: 10205
No offense meant...

...but I really detest the "thirteen Gimli clones" thing. Weta, and the design team overall are very creative; I'm sure they could have come up with a more dwarf-like design without it coming across as merely cloning Gimli (something which I think they managed splendidly with the truely dwarf-looking dwarves of the company; Balin, Dwalin, Glóin, Óin, Dori, Nori...all dwarf-looking, yet no clones). Even something more than a five-o-clock shadow would go a long way.


(This post was edited by Macfeast on Jul 3 2012, 3:02pm)


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 2:55pm


Views: 11102
Fair enough

As i said to DanielLB, i think its interesting to see how other people's opinion on the dwarves - especially kili and fili have changed over time. I do think they look more dwarvish with the hoods on and the costume design is really good. I too like fili more and i think has a more dwarvish face, i do wish Aiden was allowed to keep the beard he grew himself before shooting began but like you and i said before i have accepted it and look forward to seeing them.

What do you think about the dwarves we saw in the LOTR movies? To me they all look very much like dwarves and also alike but different enough for me not to consider them clones. Though in TH i think they would be too similar in design as obviously they are on screen for way longer.


TheSexyBeard
Lorien

Jul 3 2012, 2:57pm


Views: 10238
Can't view images properly

I'm guessing from all the discussions about the images I'm the only one having problems viewing them? Each time the website loads, the images appears on the extreme right of the page, causing them to be obscured by adverts and other links. Does any one know if they're being shown else where?

So far the right side of the film looks good. Tongue


TheRealBeren
Rivendell

Jul 3 2012, 3:02pm


Views: 10513
Scan?

So, is anyone going to scan and post the entire article on the boards?Cheers


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 3 2012, 3:08pm


Views: 9895
Hey who you laughing at?

Didn't you learn never to laugh at live Dragons!?



The Plan 9 Interview... in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the release of The Fellowship of the Ring.


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 3 2012, 3:10pm


Views: 9859
ROFL... just... ROFL //

 



The Plan 9 Interview... in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the release of The Fellowship of the Ring.


Altaira
Superuser / Moderator


Jul 3 2012, 3:15pm


Views: 10113
*jaw drops*


Quote
I'm not sure I insulted anyone, or have ever deliberately insulted anyone



You just completely, and undeservedly, jumped the gun and called someone else's opinion 'insulting tripe.'

I would have edited that out if JW hadn't taken it so well and turned it around on you. If you're told time and time again, by different people that you insult people, you might consider the fact that it just *might* be true.



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imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 3:16pm


Views: 9948
Not laughing at anyone's posts :P //

 


duats
Grey Havens

Jul 3 2012, 3:29pm


Views: 10812
*Applause*

It's not even questionable that Weta could have pulled it off. But they gotta hit those younger age demographics somehow Frown.

I still can't stand Kili, and Thorin's short beard continues to drive me crazy. Otherwise, I've pretty much gotten used to everyone else.


TheSexyBeard
Lorien

Jul 3 2012, 3:35pm


Views: 9864
Also on Movies.com

The new images have appeared on Movies.com now, heres the link iif anyone else was having problems with last website:

http://www.movies.com/...mp;wss=mdcmkttwitter

There looking great! It's cool to see the Dwarves coloured hood make it into film, I wasn't expecting them to appear. Dori is certainly rocking his, whilst Nori looks pretty tough in the same photo, a side we haven't seen of him so far (based on what little we've seen). I think Gollum looks a little bit more youthful, and slightly healthier, which is understandable since is in possesstion of the ring. The advancements in technology are really clear as well.

Those character shots of Bilbo, Gandalf and Thorin are great! They really should have realised the one of Thorin first, it's a lot better than original images of him from last year.

The Hobbit is also currently trending on Twiter.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 3:42pm


Views: 9976
Went to my shop

and not a copy in sight Unsure


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 3:47pm


Views: 10409
Is it available in the UK?

I have never as far as i can remember bought a copy of Entertainment Weekly, i just assumed it would be on sale in the UK in one of the major supermarkets.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 3:48pm


Views: 9935
Yes, it's available in the UK. Just nowhere has it ...

 Edit: Maybe you can only buy it online:

http://www.newsstand.co.uk/...ne-Subscription.aspx

Although, the above website says it's released tomorrow?


(This post was edited by DanielLB on Jul 3 2012, 3:51pm)


Carne
Tol Eressea

Jul 3 2012, 3:49pm


Views: 12537
Maybe it's a bit too early in the US?

I'm not sure when people get their mail in the US, but I assume subscribers will have to wait a few more hours.


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 3:51pm


Views: 10319
I take it you have bought one before?

I found this online http://www.ask.com/answers/50096241/where-can-you-buy-entertainment-weekly-in-the-uk

quote ' Entertainment Weekly is not typically sold on news stand in the UK, but it can be ordered from an online news stand, such as www.newsstand.co.uk, and delivered to an address in the UK. Likewise, you can buy a subscription, usually for as many or as few weeks as you want, and have it delivered to an address in the UK.'

But then others say you can. Wish it was just published in Empire or Total Film, then i could get it from my local corner shop!


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 3:53pm


Views: 10108
See my edit ;-)

I hope it's not restricted to the US only. That's no fun Unsure


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 3:54pm


Views: 10065
Oh you beat me to it! haha!

 


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 3 2012, 3:57pm


Views: 10252
An unintended consequence of 48fps

Stills made on set should be colour corrected for print media... just saying.

Apart from the odd hue in some shots, everything and everyone looks great imho. Thanks again Magpie!


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 3 2012, 4:12pm


Views: 10389
Oh I see JW and Shelob picked up on this

serves me right for coming so late to the thread and posting without careful reading of what was already said.

Carry on Ringers!


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 3 2012, 4:17pm


Views: 10301
Baseless

I called JWPlatt's comments "insulting tripe," I did not insult his person. And despite the fact that he was not insulting me, he was indeed directly insulting other people on the boards (accusing them of amnesia, being hysterical, etc), and I stand by that. I misinterpreted the audience of his insult, but not the nature of it.

I never attack people's persons on this board, despite the fact that people often describe me in an unsatisfactory fashion, simply because of the opinions I hold. I am routinely labeled "naysayer," "complainer," "the kind of person that is never happy," "delusional" etc., but cannot remember a time where I accused anyone of being "slobbering fanboys," "naive," or "lacking good taste in films."

If people are insulted by my opinions of the films, for whatever reasons, that is understandable (but also not my problem, as they are simply my personal opinions, and have nothing to do with my opinions of other people).

That is very different than directly insulting people, which I avoid at all costs.

It is baseless and entirely unfair to accuse me with such a general statement. Simply because some people (and not many, mind you) have been insulted by my comments, does not prove that I have insulted their person.


Elven
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 4:37pm


Views: 9899
Thankyou Magpie...

Some nice pics there!
Not sure about the front cover (proportionally) - but it has a few hints - the words Epic and Anticipation come to mind Laugh


(This post was edited by Elven on Jul 3 2012, 4:39pm)


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 3 2012, 4:56pm


Views: 10146
Question about REDs

1. Why do they eat so much color?

2. Is the "color eating" a product of a technology in its early stages, and if so, are people working on improving it? In other words, can RED Epics in the future be made in such a way that diminishes that color-eating phenomenon?

3. Is it really possible, through the physical coloration of sets, costumes, makeup, etc., to adequately compensate for this color-eating across the entire broad palette of the films?

4. Do we have other examples of films shot with RED Epics, and do they seem to suffer in terms of their color palette?

I suppose I am a bit confused about the decision to go with RED Epics, given some very clear deficiencies that are likely costing the production lots of money...


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 3 2012, 4:57pm


Views: 10167
Photos Collected here

I try to put all the official photos in this gallery. They are updated with the highest resolution versions as I come across them.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 3 2012, 5:05pm


Views: 10178
Agreed

I really don't think it was an either/or decision.

And as I said, I think there should have been a "baseline" that one wouldn't cross. For me that was: The dwarves should all have beards worthy of being described as beards! That means quite long.

That could have been done while still creating very distinctive looks and profiles through costume differences, hats/helmets, weapon profiles, different-colored hair, size, weight, etc - all while maintaining beard length.

For me, the only ones who violate that baseline are Kili, Fili and Bofur. Kili I still don't quite like. Fili I like, but mostly because I have grown used to him (and he looks appropriately Nordic, in a way). And Bofur I am not crazy about, though he does exude some sense of extreme dwarvishness, in his own way.


duats
Grey Havens

Jul 3 2012, 5:15pm


Views: 10430
I'm surprised you don't have Thorin on there

Being the dwarf KING, in some ways I find his beard the most egregious of the bunch. To put it frankly, I find it pathetic that Thorin is put to shame by so many of the other dwarves.

I'm sorry, but if Ian McKellen and Christopher Lee can deliver excellent performances with long beards, then there's no excuse for this - save for the blatant attempt at sex appeal.


(This post was edited by duats on Jul 3 2012, 5:17pm)


artemy
Lorien


Jul 3 2012, 5:33pm


Views: 10984
From the vlogs

I got the impression that the reason Kili doesn't have a full beard (and Fili has a pretty short one) is because they're still young and haven't grown them out yet. Had they lived as long as the others, they could well have cultivated magnificent long beards.

~Beneath the sun, all things must wear to an end at last~


duats
Grey Havens

Jul 3 2012, 5:38pm


Views: 10401
Except that blatantly goes against Tolkien

As dwarves are born with beards. I mean, even the female dwarves have beards.

But even if they weren't, are we really supposed to believe that a dwarf doesn't grow a beard during the first 80 years of their lives (assuming they remain faithful to Kili and Fili's ages)?


(This post was edited by duats on Jul 3 2012, 5:40pm)


droidsocket
Lorien

Jul 3 2012, 5:48pm


Views: 9965
I can't answer all of your questions. But..

From what I understand. The color loss has more to do with the 3d rig they are shooting through.

And I don't think they have to bump color across the board to achieve what they want in post. For example. They need to bump the red up in the prosthetic makeup. But don't have to in the regular face makeup.

This is not new to movie making. Film makers that used celluloid and traditional cameras still had to make desisions on what film stock would best suit their story that had there own pros and cons.

When filming Aliens Stan Winston's creature shop had to paint all the highlights on the queen alien a fairly bright blue. So that on the film it would show up the way they wanted it too..

Nothing to worry about. IMO

(This post was edited by droidsocket on Jul 3 2012, 5:49pm)


namarie
Rohan


Jul 3 2012, 6:35pm


Views: 10317
New photos..yay :)

Thanks Magpie!


There is always hope


Altaira
Superuser / Moderator


Jul 3 2012, 6:42pm


Views: 10372
An insult is and insult

and *all* types are against out terms of service. If you directly insult someone's opinion it's just the same as insulting their person.

And, do *you* actually read what people post here? Tongue JW didn't accuse people of hysteria, he made a tongue-in-cheek comment about people, in general, sometimes being forgetful. There was nothing directly insulting to anyone, or to anyone's opinion, in his post.


Koru: Maori symbol representing a fern frond as it opens. The koru reaches towards the light, striving for perfection, encouraging new, positive beginnings.



"Life can't be all work and no TORn" -- jflower

"I take a moment to fervently hope that the camaradarie and just plain old fun I found at TORn will never end" -- LOTR_nutcase





(This post was edited by Altaira on Jul 3 2012, 6:50pm)


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 3 2012, 6:46pm


Views: 10161
Agreed

And I maintain that I do not, and have not, insulted anyone.

In my posts, I offer my personal opinion on the subject matter, and occasionally, if I find that someone seems to be attacking either me or other people, I address the tone of their comments.

I believe you will not find one shred of evidence that I have purposefully attacked someone's character. The accusation is baseless.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 3 2012, 7:11pm


Views: 10275
Though I do apologize

For insulting JW's insult!

I was under the mistaken impression, because he responded to me, that he was accusing me of 'amnesia,' which was at the root of my rather intemperate response. I did not know he was addressing a general mass of other TORNistas.

I apologized to JW for that, which would have ended the discussion had Kangi not made another comment about it.

I will try to more cordially take issue with the tone of other posters' insults in the future.

Definitely some irony in here somewhere...

Smile


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 3 2012, 7:17pm


Views: 10181
Not quite

JW was not addressing people in general, as people in general were not raising questions about the Mirkwood colors. He was addressing people here that were raising concerns about those colors, seemingly, though not necessarily, because they were forgetting about the RED Epic color-eating issue (subsequent responses show that some of those posters are aware of the issue, but still believe the sheer brightness of the colors mean some of it will come through).

Indeed, in his subsequent post, he stated that his message was indeed aimed at others' posts. That contradicts the assumption that he was speaking to people 'in general.'

The tone and substance of the post was unnecessarily insulting, and directed at people in this thread.

Bu it was a minor insult, and not worth yammering on about. I generally like th guy! Smile


(This post was edited by Shelob'sAppetite on Jul 3 2012, 7:21pm)


JWPlatt
Grey Havens


Jul 3 2012, 7:28pm


Views: 10296
Erm..

Stop it, all of you, you're embarrassing me.

Blush


Macfeast
Rohan

Jul 3 2012, 8:37pm


Views: 10292
Pretty much how I feel.

13 Gimli clones would obviously be a bit on the extreme side, but then, I'd consider beardless dwarves to be extreme, only on the other end of the spectrum. I would think there's plenty of room in-between, no need to make it an either/or kind of issue.

Really though, it's only but a select few that I object to, and I'm a big fan of what they did with the majority of the company; Distinctive, dwarf-looking, and with interesting details that you can't help but wonder about. I think the fact that at least half of the company displays these traits, shows that there's plenty you can do to achieve interesting and unique designs, without deviating from dwarven characteristics.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 3 2012, 8:42pm


Views: 10009
Not a chance

We all love you very much, JW.

Hugs, kisses, and snoochie boochies!

Heart


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 9:04pm


Views: 10051
Someone must have a copy by now? /

 


Carne
Tol Eressea

Jul 3 2012, 9:17pm


Views: 10320
Found this on Tumblr

http://24.media.tumblr.com/...qPG1qir38fo1_500.jpg

No scans though.


Ali
The Shire

Jul 3 2012, 9:18pm


Views: 11928
Scans on my site

Scans are on my site RichardArmitageNet.com - scroll down to the news


imin
Valinor


Jul 3 2012, 9:25pm


Views: 10206
Awesome, thanks for posting! /

 


artemy
Lorien


Jul 3 2012, 9:26pm


Views: 10260
Many kind thanks!

This was just what we needed Wink

~Beneath the sun, all things must wear to an end at last~


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 9:31pm


Views: 10193
Thank you!! /

 


Macfeast
Rohan

Jul 3 2012, 9:36pm


Views: 10809
Good job, much appreciated.

Interesting to see that the dwarves will fight off the spiders together with the elves (after which they will presumably be taken prisoners).

Also, some insight from the descriptions of the dwarves:
- Bifur's axe-head is from an orc's axe; No mining accident or anything.
- Bofur, as suspected, will stand for a lot of comic relief.
- Óin...not a direction I was expecting, I can say that. I guess we know now from where Gimli learned all about the nervous system.


(This post was edited by Macfeast on Jul 3 2012, 9:37pm)


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 9:39pm


Views: 10050
Some thoughts

- The Dwarves and the Elves fight the spiders together
- Bilbo has to escape from a cocoon
- I reckon the dwarves have been listed in importance - love the sound of Oin. Now we know who looks after Bifur


Carne
Tol Eressea

Jul 3 2012, 9:46pm


Views: 10007
"I'm definitely the less comic, more violent type of dwarf"

Bring on Dwalin Cool


(This post was edited by Carne on Jul 3 2012, 9:47pm)


Magpie
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 9:50pm


Views: 9998
Welcome to TORn, Ali

I think I need a look around your site. :-)

Thanks for the scans. I hope to pick up an issue tonight or the next few days. But those scans are nice for back up.


LOTR soundtrack website ~ magpie avatar gallery
TORn History Mathom-house ~ Torn Image Posting Guide


Magpie
Immortal


Jul 3 2012, 9:56pm


Views: 9941
Thanks, Dark Jackal

I have to say, that THIS is what I've been waiting for. The excitement of getting new pictures of significant news and fans making scans and finding larger images and creating websites to put them on. And actor's fan sites, too.. (waves at Ali and her RA site)

Back in the day, I had my favorite LOTR sites and many have shown the tattering of time with images missing or broken links. And some are just plain gone. That was then.

But I can remember how many times I checked them out and linked others to them. This is now.

I'm happy. Very happy.


LOTR soundtrack website ~ magpie avatar gallery
TORn History Mathom-house ~ Torn Image Posting Guide


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 3 2012, 11:10pm


Views: 10004
My pleasure

I'm sure I will have some sort of mental breakdown trying to keep up once we are increasingly flooded with goodies. Though right now scouring the wastelands isn't much easier.


Milknut
Rohan


Jul 3 2012, 11:13pm


Views: 10214
ORCRIST LOOKS CRAZY!

But in a good way! It's a curved, one-sided blade with the guard extending only below the hand, not above. Strange, but cool! It's like an uber-cutlass!

The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie___


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 12:01am


Views: 8455
reply

Great face photo Darkjackal!

Now, what we really need is the HI Res photos!! Cant wait to see Thorin!

So...Oin is the Horace Slughorn of the group ei....


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 12:16am


Views: 7743
reply

 
Read this on another site :

!Oh God, another movie about midgets and wizards walking through the forest while stupid music is playing! "ShockedLaugh


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 12:25am


Views: 9951
Gotta love AICN. //

 

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Altaira
Superuser / Moderator


Jul 4 2012, 12:26am


Views: 10162
Oh, get a room ;-)

Why didn't you say you were insulting his insult? That would have made it *so* much more acceptable. Crazy

It's not *that* big of a deal. If it was, I would have edited it or removed the sub-thread. It was more an observation, and a general reminder that a bit of care in one's choice of words (as well as taking others' choice of words with a big grain of salt), can make all the difference.


Koru: Maori symbol representing a fern frond as it opens. The koru reaches towards the light, striving for perfection, encouraging new, positive beginnings.



"Life can't be all work and no TORn" -- jflower

"I take a moment to fervently hope that the camaradarie and just plain old fun I found at TORn will never end" -- LOTR_nutcase





duats
Grey Havens

Jul 4 2012, 12:48am


Views: 10152
Anybody have the tablet version

According to those scans, the tablet edition has more exclusive photos.


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 12:57am


Views: 7688
reply to captainsalt

Indeed! I wonder how would theonering look like if it had aicn freedom of speech...Wink


ElendilTheShort
Gondor

Jul 4 2012, 1:00am


Views: 10064
Impact injuries

did occur, I do not know much about the subject though so I could not really comment much further on modern speculation, theories and historical evidence on the matter. If you were going for impact a hammer would be more effective.

A real sword is a joy, they can float in your hand when moving and their specific intention, which differs, becomes clear even to an untrained person as long as they are paying attention.


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 1:02am


Views: 9912
Well, we're all united in actually liking Tolkien!

Our disagreements never result in flat-out calling the entire premise crap (as far as I'm aware)!

If one looked hard enough, I'm sure one could probably find an "ultra-deluxe-purist" on the internet who feels that "The Hobbit" and "The Lord of the Rings" were good titles, but J.R.R. screwed them up in the opening paragraphs. TongueTongueEvil

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 4 2012, 1:02am


Views: 9962
Nice gallery so far!

Thanks DJ.

This one made me sigh: http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/...962302_5176258_o.jpg

We swears he's in this one too: http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/...ial_1_hd-cb87644.jpg


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 1:08am


Views: 9989
Thanks for the scans...but...

did PJ just say "Gimps"? The particularly meaning of the word of which he's making use here is horribly inappropriate for the family-friendly fare that is TH! Shame on you, PJ, you dirty little man! ShockedBlush

I think he meant "gimp suits", anyway. "Gimp" is a horribly mean slang term for a handicapped person. Unsure

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Jul 4 2012, 1:11am)


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 1:18am


Views: 7936
reply to captainsalt

Id actually like to meet such a rarityWink

I understood gimp meant idiotic...apparently not...

If we get hi res versions of those photos, tablet edition on ew or from somewhere else, ill scream....Laugh


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 1:21am


Views: 10646
Yes...Dr. Gimli got his education from his Uncle Dr. Oin!

I'd ignore that particular bit from the EE if I were PJ, but whatever! Tongue

Elves and Dwarves fighting Spiders together...so, the Mirkwood Elves will be presented as (initially) more helpful than they are in the book...makes sense, considering that the audience will know the Elves as the "good guys" from the trilogy.

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 4 2012, 1:40am


Views: 10599
Horace Slughorn vs. Oin

OMG Lusitano! I will never be able to think of Oin without this connection again. NOOOOO!




Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 1:48am


Views: 7368
reply to DarkJackal

LOOOOOOOOOOOOLL


Dazzling! Marvelous! Ecstatic! OH DARKJACKAL THE MAGNIFICENT! Wink

I hope when you actually see him, he ll make you forget that dudeLaugh


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 4 2012, 1:50am


Views: 10114
You sigh..

..over which, the loss of Rob Kazinsky, or Aidan's beard? Laugh


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 1:53am


Views: 10570
Perhaps its meaning may vary...

But it's not nice, whatever it is. Wink

BTW, by "handicapped" I mean people who've lost limbs, ETC. I don't PJ is aware of this particular usage...I hope! Tongue I wish I weren't aware of it, for that matter.

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Jul 4 2012, 1:55am)


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 1:55am


Views: 10113
Aidan definitely looked more appropriately Dwarvish with the bead, IMO...

As for Rob Kazinsky, he's still playing someone's brother in a big-budget tentpole movie (from former Hobbit director Guillemo del Toro)!


My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 4 2012, 1:57am


Views: 9507
No no no!

What Jackson actually meant was GIMP, or (GNU Image Manipulation Program) the free software I use to make icons!

I'm sure this dinky little program plays some incredibly important part in the special effects of the green suits. See, nothing impure there! Sly


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 4 2012, 2:03am


Views: 9862
Needed something for Legolas to do

I suppose just being a pampered prince and pushing dwarves around wasn't considered respectable enough for our future elf hero.

*grumble*


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 2:08am


Views: 10352
Well, that's better!

I'm sure that what PJ meant too...what a relief! Embarrassment for our director averted! Wink

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 4 2012, 2:20am


Views: 9307
Given the context of the statement

it's pretty clear that he is talking about a "gimp suit"

...though until now I wasn't even aware that those outfits had a name, even after having seen Pulp Fiction a half dozen times... it just never occurred to me that they would have a name, let alone be part of popular parlance.

I was aware of the other (derogatory) use of the word to describe someone who is lame, or as a substitute for the verb "limp." (Which conjures some decidedly off-colour theories about how the gimp suit may have been named.)


(This post was edited by SirDennisC on Jul 4 2012, 2:23am)


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 4 2012, 2:22am


Views: 9867
Kazinsky of course

I'm willing to bet, though not seen, he was seated at that table in Bag End when the publicity still was made.


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 2:31am


Views: 9801
To be honest

I wasn't aware of the term "gimp suit", either...I had to look it up, to make sure PJ wasn't saying that other thing! Tongue

Anyhoo, I wonder if there were discernible differences between the Fili's? Dean just seems more low-key, personality-wise, than Rob...also wonder if we'll see a bit more of the first Fili on the eventual extras?

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Jul 4 2012, 2:33am)


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 4 2012, 3:05am


Views: 10051
Really. The astonishing thing is that PJ

seemed to think that we (his audience) would know what he was on about... it was so obvious to him after all. The world according to AICN indeed!

Laugh

The guy must be exhausted (though the quote is from some time ago)... you're in the home stretch now Sir Peter, we're still rooting for you!


(This post was edited by SirDennisC on Jul 4 2012, 3:08am)


ElendilTheShort
Gondor

Jul 4 2012, 3:15am


Views: 9395
I thought the gimp suit

reference would be from Pulp Fiction


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 4 2012, 3:30am


Views: 9608
Ah, so the name grew from the iconic scene

with Zed and friends in the basement of the pawn shop?

Zed: Bring out the gimp.
Maynard: I think the gimp's sleeping.
Zed: Well I guess you'll just have to go wake him up now won't you.

Or were such suits called that before Pulp Fiction was made? In other words is it a film reference or drawn from another repository of knowledge?

Crazy


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 4 2012, 3:54am


Views: 9695
My understanding of the word gimp

Also comes from that scene in Pulp Fiction - leading me to believe it referred to a strange man dressed in leather that lives in a cage...

So, I empathize with PJ here! I hope this doesn't land him into any PR trouble.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 4 2012, 4:05am


Views: 9861
I don't know why

But I think Thorin looks fantastic as is. Indeed, he is my favorite dwarf of the bunch, by a long shot.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 4 2012, 4:14am


Views: 10659
His insult insulted me, so I had to insult it!

Smile

In any event, thanks for your calmly rational approach to this little flare-up.

In the future, I will try not to take double shots of espresso before posting!


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 4 2012, 4:39am


Views: 11550
After a little research

here is duly sanitized account of what I learned:

It seems the term "gimp" has been used in certain (adult) circles since before Pulp Fiction to describe a willingly subjugated person in a specific type of relationship. Often such a person wears a certain type of close fitting garment that covers their entire body, restricting movement (therefore not to be confused with a uni-tard). Such a suit started being called a "gimp suit" after Pulp Fiction. Before that movie it was (and still is on occasion) named according to its function/purpose.

All this is to say, in answer to my own question really, that it can be argued that it is a film reference rather than specialized knowledge of a sort.

Still, given the suits are green, he might better have called them Jim Cary Riddler clones. Considering (according to the article) that EW is owned by Warners it boggles the mind that that particular part of the interview was given so many column inches.
Crazy


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 4:48am


Views: 11232
Perhaps he did!

But WB didn't want to remind anyone of the "Schumacher"era in the Bat mythos, so the "gimp" commentary was an ill-advised to fabricate something else for PJ to have said. Tongue

Anyhoo, nice detective work! I agree the term's prominence in the article is weird. Wink

PJ shouldn't be giving Tarantino free publicity, however, seeing as his new movie - Django Unchained - will be released alongside TH in December (slightly different subject matter, however). Cool

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Jul 4 2012, 4:53am)


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 4 2012, 4:57am


Views: 9801
I like the cut of ur jib Cap'n XD

I just love the way your mind turns at times, good stuff.

Laugh


(This post was edited by SirDennisC on Jul 4 2012, 5:00am)


dormouse
Half-elven


Jul 4 2012, 7:41am


Views: 9778
It isn't really...

In the EE documentaries for Two Towers they talk about Andy Serkis's 'gimp suit' - so often that he probably took it for granted everyone would know the word. Either that or he's said it so often now he doesn't think about it any more. But this certainly isn't the first time they've used it.


imin
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 9:32am


Views: 10243
Isn't that what everyone thought of first or is my mind just dirty, haha //

 


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 4 2012, 10:37am


Views: 10195
That's where I first heard the word too

And I never really looked it up, just assumed it meant a tight-fitting suit (yeah they do talk about Andy's gimp suit a bit).



The Plan 9 Interview... in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the release of The Fellowship of the Ring.


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 4 2012, 10:42am


Views: 9937
Well it's what I thought of first, and I think I have a pretty clean mind :P //

 



The Plan 9 Interview... in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the release of The Fellowship of the Ring.


Ali
The Shire

Jul 4 2012, 1:30pm


Views: 10000
Images from tablet version

...are on my website. Enjoy


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 4 2012, 1:31pm


Views: 9617
You're a star!!

Balin and Dwalin look great!! First to arrive Laugh


imin
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 1:38pm


Views: 11365
Thank you very much

The images appear to be very sharp, have they been photoshopped? Thorin looks like he has spent some time under a sunbed and starting to get an 80's rocker look, lol.

Love the other photo, Balin looks fantastic as does bilbo in is robe! Though his big feet are kinda distracting.

Also what is Thorin holding? A key?


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 4 2012, 1:42pm


Views: 10145
That's not the key

Maybe a different sword or axe (not Orcrist anyway).

I hadn't noticed the feet ... but now you pointed them out ... Unsure


Ali
The Shire

Jul 4 2012, 1:42pm


Views: 9939
Thorin's sword

He's holding his original sword before he obtains Orcrist. Screencap here of original one from 3rd Production vlog.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 4 2012, 1:43pm


Views: 9666
Excellent spot!! /

 


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 4 2012, 1:43pm


Views: 9695
Is there a massive chunk out of Dwalin's right ear? /

 


imin
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 1:44pm


Views: 9753
Oh, i thought i found it first, lol

Probably the hilt of his sword? Infact i just looked at the other pics of Thorin with his sword and it does look like it alot, i think its just that, oh well.

I wonder if a dwarf key will look like a standard key or something special?

edit: You are all too fast for me!


(This post was edited by imin on Jul 4 2012, 1:45pm)


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 4 2012, 1:46pm


Views: 9381
I've seen the prototype

I made a thread months ago when a photo of the key prototype was leaked. TORN had to take it down though before anyone saw it Frown

I didn't think to save the picture Unsure


imin
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 1:48pm


Views: 9474
Oh you lucky thing, haha! //

 


Ali
The Shire

Jul 4 2012, 1:49pm


Views: 9509
Could be...

well he is violent apparently.

I can barely believe that this pic is the same guy as this pic. Confused.com


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 4 2012, 1:50pm


Views: 9390
You're right

The first isn't a very good picture of Thorin Crazy How far he has come! And I bet the real beard helps Smile


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 4 2012, 1:52pm


Views: 9404
It wasn't very spoilery

But Warner Bros. keep an eye on the boards Wink I wonder if anyone got in trouble for the leak...


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 2:01pm


Views: 9568
So he has an axe and a sword before Orcrist?

Or maybe he grabs an axe for a bit when the orcs take Orcrist from him? Hmm..

"...For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth"


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 2:16pm


Views: 9750
Brotherly mischief

Thank youuu!!

Balin and Dwalin look so great together! I wonder whats happening...could this be the moment we saw being rehearsed with pj in the 1st video blog when balin or dwalin shouted RAHAHAAA and bilbo said : sorry hate to interrupt...


little mouse
Rivendell

Jul 4 2012, 2:22pm


Views: 9551
WOW! Balin looks great

And Thorin is ready to apply for a photo ID cardSmile


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 4 2012, 2:28pm


Views: 9650
Ah well there you go, it was an Easter Egg.

they can keep the surprise inside Tongue


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 2:32pm


Views: 9408
I noticed that with these two...

http://www.richardarmitagenet.com/.../album/10-Thorin.jpg

http://www.ew.com/...420,00.html#21179608

Same position, but totally different!

"...For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth"


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 2:37pm


Views: 9371
A wonderful thought just came to me...

Dwalin and Balin are the first to enter Bilbo's house in the book... Looks like Bilbo just let Balin in and he's gone to talk to Dwalin, maybe Bilbo's about to offer some food? Glad they're not all being introduced together like Rankin/Bass Smile

"...For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth"


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 4 2012, 2:40pm


Views: 9286
The door is still open so one of them has just arrived

I wonder what they are sniggering at?

Could just be another promo picture and not part of the film? Bilbo looks perfectly confused though Laugh


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 4 2012, 2:45pm


Views: 9651
What in the blazes is Thorin holding?

It looks frikkin awesome!

Thanks Ali! You're the best Laugh



The Plan 9 Interview... in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the release of The Fellowship of the Ring.


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 2:51pm


Views: 9480
It's part of the film. Bilbo is stood on a marker ;) //

 

"...For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth"


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 4 2012, 3:08pm


Views: 9537
haha! I hope they edit that out then ;-) /

 


imin
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 3:11pm


Views: 9503
Wow good spot

though i cant believe i didnt notice it after staring at how ridiculously big Bilbo's feet are there!


Carne
Tol Eressea

Jul 4 2012, 3:11pm


Views: 9691
Probably not showing on camera

 


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 3:18pm


Views: 7470
reply

I think this is my favourite image of Dwalin so far...looks really good in character...

They could be sneering at Bilbo's kitchen and trying to make out if thats jaspberry jam or chocolate cake ready for the taking by these famished dwarves..Cool

Thorin looks like a God of Rock!Wink


(This post was edited by Lusitano on Jul 4 2012, 3:18pm)


imin
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 3:27pm


Views: 9442
Haha, god of rock, totally agree

Their foreheads seem to be alot more brown/tanned than their cheeks, is it just the lighting? I think Thorin looks very tanned. Maybe its all their travelling to get to Bag End. Dwalins head tattoos actually look good as well, if you would have told me he had tattoos i would not have thought much of it, but the actor and character design work well together.


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 3:34pm


Views: 9401
tan

Due to the location shooting they did maybe..a lot of sun...or maybe its just a choice on the make up department..gandi and thorin looked tanned in the latest vblog...

It makes dwalin even more fearsome ad rugged...


imin
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 3:39pm


Views: 9428
Yeah its no big deal, i was just wondering out loud i guess, lol

I really want to get Balin's coat/jacket and Bilbo's dressing gown! They look ace!


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 4 2012, 3:44pm


Views: 11483
Best photo of Balin and Dwalin yet!

Wow, I love that shot. Also, I think it's the first time we see Balin smiling...

Still think Ken Stott's face was naturally dwarven as it is, and that the prosthetics are overdone, but the lighting here hides some of the imperfections we saw in the teaser...


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 3:53pm


Views: 7532
reply to Shelobs Appetite

As we see more and more of them most if not all of the imperfections we saw or thought we saw will disappear hopefully...one or two shots dont make the deal.

Agreed i want that suit tooWink


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 4 2012, 3:53pm


Views: 9766
I saw it

And saved it.

But will keep it hidden out of respect for ThORiN. Wink


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 3:57pm


Views: 9803
Thanks and back at ya' SirD! :) //

 

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jul 4 2012, 4:07pm


Views: 9746
How did you cut your jib

and can it be repaired?Angelic

Kangi Ska Resident Trickster & Wicked White Crebain
Life is an adventure, not a contest.

At night you can not tell if crows are black or white.
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Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 4:07pm


Views: 9654
Nice!

IMO the Dwarves had the tendency to appear slightly rubbery in the incorrect lighting, but here Balin and Dwalin look quite natural...also nice to see the two of them together for the first time.

I believe that the object Thorin is clutching is the hilt of the Dwarvish weapon he can be seen wielding in Vlog 3 at the Trollshaw? Love the color and detail in the costume and make-up here, as well...

Every new pic we get just makes the wait for Dec. more exciting and difficult!

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 4 2012, 4:11pm


Views: 9508
They'll be all the rage next year! /

 


imin
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 4:17pm


Views: 9291
About the sword

You are right, Ali spotted it a page back as well! So many eagle eyes on TORn!


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 4:31pm


Views: 9398
Hehheh... :P

Pirate-related incident! Tongue

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


imin
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 4:36pm


Views: 9689
I will be wearing mine to the opening night of there and back again :P //

 


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 4 2012, 4:38pm


Views: 9671
Just don't bring a sword

TORN doesn't have a "bail members out of our jail fund" as far as I am aware...


Macfeast
Rohan

Jul 4 2012, 4:40pm


Views: 9811
Said sword...

...even shows up in the publicity shot, but it's rather well hidden; It was only about a month or so since I first noticed it.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/...1600/Thorin_solo.jpg

Look just below his right hand.


(This post was edited by Macfeast on Jul 4 2012, 4:41pm)


Macfeast
Rohan

Jul 4 2012, 4:42pm


Views: 10963
Aww.

And here I was planning to fashion an Orcrist of my own, to go with my Thorin-costume. Was hoping TORN would bail me out if I got in trouble for it Unsure Tongue


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 4 2012, 4:43pm


Views: 9763
They need to set one up

The urges I get from ignorant people in the cinema Laugh


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 4 2012, 4:48pm


Views: 9969
Wasn't that subsequently revealed as the Badali Jewelery key?

I'll have to go and check!



The Plan 9 Interview... in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the release of The Fellowship of the Ring.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 4 2012, 4:51pm


Views: 9927
I don't remember it being Badali

Sure it was something else ... but can't remember what Wink


Arandir
Gondor


Jul 4 2012, 5:56pm


Views: 9779
Is it me or does the tablet image of Thorin remind you of Dean O'Gorman? //

 


duats
Grey Havens

Jul 4 2012, 6:02pm


Views: 9844
I guess I'll be that guy

The picture of Thorin is awful. Like something straight out of a modelling magazine.

Dwalin looks great, but Balin is really suffering from the prosthetics. His nose looks like it's about to fall off, and it all but obscures Stott's mouth. The poor guy looks like he can barely move his face under all of that makeup.


ShireHorse
Rohan

Jul 4 2012, 6:10pm


Views: 9869
A young Thorin?

Perhaps that picture is of Thorin in flashback from the attack of Smaug or the Battle of Azanulbizar. This would explain why he is carrying his original sword and not Orcrist. If so, this is clever makeup. His nose is thinner (like in RL) and his hair bowner and livelier. He reminds me of Fili and Kili. As dwarves age, their features thicken up so, in the main photo, he has a broader nose, for instance. Personally, I love both pictures.


marillaraina
Rohan

Jul 4 2012, 6:25pm


Views: 11179
Younger


In Reply To
well he is violent apparently.

I can barely believe that this pic is the same guy as this pic. Confused.com


I'm thinking that picture is younger Thorin, I don't see any grey hair. Perhaps this is how they show that Fili and Kili are not especially "pretty" young dwarves but normal young dwarves, who get "thicker" and rougher looking as they get older(::sniff::)


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jul 4 2012, 6:29pm


Views: 9705
What Dwalin and Balin are smiling at...

Image: http://www.richardarmitagenet.com/...-EWiPad-July2012.jpg

They're looking a portrait of Bilbo's father.

"That's one fine-looking woman!"

No wonder Bilbo looks disturbed!

"Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house." - Aragorn


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 6:38pm


Views: 9956
Nice, I'm betting those white hairs are from trauma, not age //

 

"...For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth"


MatthewJer18
Rohan

Jul 4 2012, 6:42pm


Views: 9632
Disagree

I really love how Thorin looks, especially the hair. Armitage is good-looking, sure, but that doesn't mean it could come out of a magazine.


little mouse
Rivendell

Jul 4 2012, 6:48pm


Views: 9517
Am I the only one who sees grey hair?

And his beard is grey too, I think they photoshopped this picture too much


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 6:48pm


Views: 9771
His right ear is also apparently falling off //

 

"...For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomed at the foundations of the Earth"


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 4 2012, 6:48pm


Views: 9704
Balin looks a bit better here

But I agree 100% that his prosthetics are overbearing - particularly the nose.

Another very odd decision given the very simple fact that Ken Stott's face is wonderfully dwarven as it is! He already has quite a large nose, so why exaggerate it further when it risks looking fake?

I hope this doesn't downgrade his acting, as he is one of my favorites on the cast. Was excellent in the second reason of Rebus.


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 6:57pm


Views: 9365
balin

Hes got scars on his nose ...


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 4 2012, 6:59pm


Views: 10480
And?

Can be done with a bit of makeup. Not necessary to create an entirely new nose - particularly one as exaggerated as this one.

PJ seems determined to complicate things visually, when there are much simpler, and more aesthetically-pleasing, solutions.


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 4 2012, 7:03pm


Views: 9621
It could just be lighting and PS

But it really strikes me as younger. I can't see any grey either. The less sombre attitude is another difference that makes this more Fili-like. Perhaps odd that he's wearing the same stuff as later, if this is a flashback, but then they were exiles. Maybe they were very frugal in hanging onto clothing.


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 4 2012, 7:08pm


Views: 9619
A flashback to his rocker days

This Is Spinal Thorin?


imin
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 7:47pm


Views: 9783
Didn't realise it was Ken Scott under there!

I do think he looks like a dwarf before all the make up/prosthetics but i also think he looks dwarven with it on. I dont think i will stop him acting at least i hope not. His nose does look a little too long and his ears are doing something strange in this shot but overall i really like his look. Costume is excellent. I think they are going for a bigger nose is how a dwarf should look, but he is one actor who probably didnt need it.


imin
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 7:51pm


Views: 11599
haha, totally agree

I think he looks younger for sure which isnt a bad thing i guess, certainly better than klingon from the original promo photos so im happy about that. To be honest i think its just the hair that is making me think he looks like 80's hair rock god, lol.

Though from the trailer we can see he doesnt quite look like this so nothing to get concerned about for anyone Tongue


Carne
Tol Eressea

Jul 4 2012, 8:31pm


Views: 9445
Prosthetics

One of the reasons they do this is to compensate for everything else that is going on. Especially the massive beards and clothing that would otherwise drown their faces. Plus they want them to have a distinct look, and not just come off as short humans. Imagine if they all looked like Kili Crazy

But I agree to some extent, the nose looks as if it's going to fall off.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 4 2012, 8:42pm


Views: 9572
I don't think it's that unrealistic ... some of us have noses like that ...

Not me personally Wink

It looks fine to me Laugh


imin
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 8:48pm


Views: 9447
Did you know there is a big nose world championships? :D

From looking at the world champ i think he would give Balin a run for his money but there is too much length on Balins for him to be denied. How does Balin drink with a nose like that, lol.


Xanaseb
Tol Eressea


Jul 4 2012, 9:12pm


Views: 9584
I find it kind of silly how it's either too much or too litle prosthetics.... can we never be happy with something lol?...

CrazyWink

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jul 4 2012, 9:26pm


Views: 9327
Yes it harkens bach to his youth

on Qo'noS.

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imin
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 9:34pm


Views: 10587
I think it comes from over analysing things

when the movies come out im sure most will have these kinds of worries melt away as we see what the actors are like when moving/speaking etc.


TheSexyBeard
Lorien

Jul 4 2012, 9:40pm


Views: 15838
Thanks for the scans, tablet images Ali

I'm pretty curious about Oin and Gloin's roles in the company. Never expected Oin to specialise in herbal medicines and Gloin to be in charge of finances (would have thought that would have been Ori's job). Interesting how the other dwarves don't particularly trust Nori, I wonder how that will it will play out and his reasons for being recruited. I always thought Bifur's axe looked pretty Orcish, so it's good to finaly have confrimation it's a war wound (the ultimate war wound Tongue). I wonder if he received it at the battle Thorin, Thrain, Dain and Azog were all present at (Anzunibarr? I always forget the name).

Really like the photo of Dwalin, Balin and Bilbo. It's good to see the two brothers together. Never noticed Balin seems to have some scars on his forehead and nose.

It would be great if each Dwarf got a new photo like the new ones of Bilbo, Thorin and Gandalf's. They look a lot more natural than the shopped group images that were released IMO.


(This post was edited by TheSexyBeard on Jul 4 2012, 9:44pm)


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 4 2012, 9:47pm


Views: 9406
Doesn't make sense

I have watched many a film, particularly in period pieces, where characters with substantial beards and heavy clothing are not covered in facial prosthetics...Those characters generally come off as far more believable than the dwarves we have seen thus far...

Yes, they were humans, and these are dwarves. But I don't find that it adds anything to the story to make sure it is 100% obvious, through their facial characteristics, that they are not human. Exposition, clothing, cultural objects, etc. can more effectively make the point.

Plus, if audiences are going to relate to these characters, they should not be too buried under prosthetics.


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 4 2012, 9:57pm


Views: 9871
I had just been kidding with this, but...

You know when something seems ridiculous, but then in hindsight, not so much...

http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/.../01/guitar-hero1.jpg

This was originally inspired by an electric guitar rendition of the Misty Mountain song, which really did sound awesome. Cool


mykonos
Bree


Jul 4 2012, 9:58pm


Views: 9878
oh em gee, that is an awesome manip! //

 


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 4 2012, 10:05pm


Views: 9571
The key

I only saw it briefly in that post of Daniel's. I don't remember much, but it was unusual, very intricate. I did not save a picture.


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 4 2012, 10:14pm


Views: 9623
That is disturbing Otaku! //

 


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 4 2012, 10:15pm


Views: 10935
When did they cast Bob Seger?




artemy
Lorien


Jul 4 2012, 10:54pm


Views: 9661
Now if the stinger for the first film

isn't Thorin and the other dwarves (Dwalin on drums, Ori on keyboard, Bifur on bass and Kili on vocals) playing a rock concert then I will be severely disappoint!

I don't think that tablet image of Thorin is from his younger days, I expect they were just trying to make Richard Armitage look as handsome as possible. I'm going to imagine his colouring is because of... firelight or something. Totally the firelight Unimpressed

Lovely to see Dwalin and Balin together though. I'd say that this occurs right at the beginning since Bilbo is still in his dressing gown, and that the rest of the dwarves arrive in groups.
In the trailer and vlogs I counted between five and seven falling through the door in a pile. How many there were in the book, I can't quite recall.

~Beneath the sun, all things must wear to an end at last~

(This post was edited by artemy on Jul 4 2012, 10:56pm)


Yngwulff
Gondor


Jul 4 2012, 11:00pm


Views: 9422
I think more than ...

2+2 is on their minds ...


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Carne
Tol Eressea

Jul 4 2012, 11:05pm


Views: 9316
8 dwarves fall through the door if my counting is correct.

 


artemy
Lorien


Jul 4 2012, 11:21pm


Views: 9180
In one of the vlogs

Fili and Kili were walking through Bag End with Bilbo and none of the other dwarves, so I assume they still arrive together as a pair. If it's Dwalin, Balin, Fili and Kili first then that would fit with the book.

What's odd is I can't see Thorin in any of the dogpiles so far. The one in which Gandalf also turns up mashes two of the groups from the book together, including Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, Ori, Dori, Nori, Oin and Gloin, but no Thorin. So maybe all of them are together and Thorin brings up the rear in a suitably regal fashion?

That would be a shame as I always found it extremely funny that he got stuck at the bottom of the heap Laugh

~Beneath the sun, all things must wear to an end at last~

(This post was edited by artemy on Jul 4 2012, 11:23pm)


imin
Valinor


Jul 4 2012, 11:21pm


Views: 9939
4 in the book, bifur, bofur, bombur and thorin/

 


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jul 5 2012, 1:25am


Views: 9959
Perhaps once comparisons were made to Khal Drogo

they decided to soften his look a bit?


BeornBerserker
Lorien

Jul 5 2012, 2:18am


Views: 9415
when does the issue hit the stands?

 


QuackingTroll
Valinor

Jul 5 2012, 2:27am


Views: 9445
No hassle...

You don't need to make an account. I just search "hobbit" every so often, to see what the public are saying...http://twitter.com/...arch/realtime/hobbit


Sunflower
Valinor

Jul 5 2012, 3:38am


Views: 9307
Depends....

The answer to where I have been te past 2 weeks is, um, Twitter. Just joined to Follow 2 people and have become addited to it. I joined more to read than to tweet. Dear Lord. It started after seeing the les Miz trailer, finding out that Russell Crowe was not only on Twitter but had a very entertaining page, than I signed up to follow Javert's Twitter feed while it was still filming, and was not disappointed....then discovered, um, Valjean's and Eponine's Twitter feed, (CrazyTongueSmile), and honestly can't say which film I'm the more stoked for. Dear Lord. never thought that would happen...I'm now re-arranging my Dec 14th weekend schedule. Mdnight for TH, of course, as well as Fri night, but I have Fri off work and Sat night too. I have to try to work Les Miz in there somewhere, if the crix are kind. That could go either way, depending on the performances. Of course people like Hugh Jackman will say things that heighten our expectations, and I get excited for a moment, but then I kick myself and be realistic. making that musical into a film is a HUGE risk....so many things that can go wrong, or just look corny...and I'm nervous about the Hobbit critical recption too....we shall see.

(Oh yeah, and one of Bono's daughters is on twitter too....talk about surreal...how did she talk her parents into letting her have an account?!?! I felt guilty at first, but hey, it's entriely voluntary so now I don't...

As usual, I miss all the bog Hobbit news when it hits...I knew of Comic-Con, but put off coming on here....figured nothing would hit before the 5th..then this! *charlie brown yell* AUUGHHH!!:)

I don't get my ET magazine in the mail until Wed or Thurs, so I'll be late getting my issue in my hands!

I wonder if any new trailer will be attached to The Dark Knight?


Magpie
Immortal


Jul 5 2012, 4:54am


Views: 9454
"on stands Tuesday, July 3 "

as stated in my original post...

the issue is marked with a July 13 date, however.


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DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 5 2012, 6:58am


Views: 9355
Thanks QT! That's handy :-) /

 


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jul 5 2012, 1:52pm


Views: 10072
I've seen the current issue of EW...

And there was nothing about The Hobbit or Comic-Con on the cover or interior. I think that the issue comes out next week, on the 10th.

"Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house." - Aragorn


lindorian
The Shire

Jul 5 2012, 4:04pm


Views: 10816
Not the EW 6th July issue

Yep, I just received my copy from newsstand in the UK and I got Louis C K on the cover ( 'Disappointed' said in a Kevin Kline voice - Fish called Wanda reference anyone...anyone?) It also said that the next issue would not be available till 18th July so maybe we won't be able to get it at all in the UK. Not happy!


imin
Valinor


Jul 5 2012, 4:08pm


Views: 10034
Oh bad luck!

Yeah i would be disappointed about that as well. Hopefully the next issue will be coming a little sooner than that!


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jul 5 2012, 4:19pm


Views: 17208
EW, July 6th issue


In Reply To
Yep, I just received my copy from newsstand in the UK and I got Louis C K on the cover ( 'Disappointed' said in a Kevin Kline voice - Fish called Wanda reference anyone...anyone?) It also said that the next issue would not be available till 18th July so maybe we won't be able to get it at all in the UK. Not happy!



Yes, that is the only issue that I've seen on the stands this week (here in the U.S.). That is why I suspect the street date of the Hobbit/Comic-Con issue is actually July 10th.

"Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house." - Aragorn


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 5 2012, 4:41pm


Views: 9112
I believe this is of what you speak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R97TsVD

General Warning: Brief language from Mr. Kline. Tongue

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 5 2012, 5:23pm


Views: 9296
Did you buy it online, or from a shop? /

 


imin
Valinor


Jul 5 2012, 5:26pm


Views: 9636
news stand is that online shop you linked, isn't it? /

 


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 5 2012, 5:27pm


Views: 9318
Yes it was

I wasn't sure if it was the website or from an actual news stand Laugh


imin
Valinor


Jul 5 2012, 5:28pm


Views: 9219
oh

Blush


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 5 2012, 5:32pm


Views: 9971
It's alright - I should've said that originally ;-) /

 


Magpie
Immortal


Jul 5 2012, 5:55pm


Views: 9643
re: July 3

That's what ew.com wrote... and I had wondered about it since the issue cover reads July 13. Perhaps it was a typo.

Someone found a photo of it, though. And someone provided scans of it. And the tablet version is out.

So, someone has it.


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Carne
Tol Eressea

Jul 5 2012, 6:22pm


Views: 11219
Maybe subscribers get it early?

I subscribe to a couple of magazines and they arrive about 1 week before stores get them.


Magpie
Immortal


Jul 5 2012, 6:23pm


Views: 10245
good point //

 


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lindorian
The Shire

Jul 5 2012, 6:53pm


Views: 9615
Louis C K EW Issue #1214

Newsstand very rightly advertised it as the July 6th issue. I just assumed that since it was said that the Hobbit issue was coming out this Frriday (the 6th) and folk already had it in their sweaty excited hands that that was the issue to buy. So it is officially the July 13th issue. And because Newsstand is an online service and is importing the mags it is probably a week behind the States.


lindorian
The Shire

Jul 5 2012, 6:56pm


Views: 9458
That makes me laugh every time!

Thanks Captain for posting. Yes, I was car kicking crazy when i saw the cover!


QuackingTroll
Valinor

Jul 5 2012, 8:11pm


Views: 9455
Well, if this is the picture, then who wouldn't??




DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 5 2012, 8:48pm


Views: 9578
So Bilbo grabs a picture of his parents before he leaves?

I like it.

Perhaps the Dwarves find the picture while being rounded up by the Elves. Bilbo can't say/do anything as it will give away his disguise.


QuackingTroll
Valinor

Jul 5 2012, 9:02pm


Views: 9660
I'm pretty sure the picture at Bag-End is Bilbo's father.

I wasn't actually making a point here, this just happened to be the only image I have of the Bag-End picture on my laptop Blush

But, it is interesting that this photo-frame could belong to Bilbo. The fact that the image is on the left implies that the frame holds 2 pictures (that or the image is flipped) otherwise the picture would be on the right.

Maybe the pictures are there to represent his Tookish and Baggins sides. Bilbo might take the frame out and look at it to help with decisions like "should I save the dwarves from the spiders" Could be that he then drops it while wearing the Ring and the elves find it and question the dwarves with it. (Just a thought)


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DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 5 2012, 9:08pm


Views: 9490
Yes, they could accuse them of withholding information

It's likely that the Elves are going to be very suspicious of the Dwarves (excluding the obvious). Finding the frame and the Dwarves escaping from the spider's cacoons, they'll probably realise something isn't quite right.


DarkJackal
Rohan


Jul 5 2012, 10:13pm


Views: 9533
Two sides of Bilbo

 
QuackingTroll wrote:"Maybe the pictures are there to represent his Tookish and Baggins sides. Bilbo might take the frame out and look at it to help with decisions like "should I save the dwarves from the spiders" Could be that he then drops it while wearing the Ring and the elves find it and question the dwarves with it. (Just a thought)"

I love the symbolism of this! I think that is a splendid way to remind us of the conflict within Bilbo. Hope you are right.


Sunflower
Valinor

Jul 6 2012, 6:02am


Views: 9056
Issue 1215, July 13th

Just got my copy in the mail today, here in the US (Gandalf/Bilbo on cover.) Boy, am I glad I'm a subscriber! Best $30 I spent this yr!

Very nice preview on Comin-Con, as well as Jo Rowling's new novel. (minor plot spoilers too! Going to be a big change, as well as surreal!)


artemy
Lorien


Jul 6 2012, 10:00am


Views: 9154
Hate to try and burst anyone's bubble

but although I agree that the picture in Bag End is likely Bilbo's father, the silver frame of the woman's portrait looks distinctly dwarvish in design. I still suspect that it's Gloin's wife Tongue

~Beneath the sun, all things must wear to an end at last~

(This post was edited by artemy on Jul 6 2012, 10:00am)


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 6 2012, 10:04am


Views: 9253
Really? I think the two pictures are very similar

Wink
I was going to say that it doesn't look like a dwarvish photo frame, but then again, I don't know what a dwarvish photo frame would look like Laugh


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jul 6 2012, 11:26am


Views: 9248
If the portraites are the same ones that were on the mantel in LotR

They are small paintings/drawings of Peter & Fran as Hobbits. They were said to be Bilbo's Parents.

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DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 6 2012, 11:31am


Views: 9362
It's hard to see the facial features

http://www.moraya.net/...welldearbilbo024.jpg


Shelob'sAppetite
Valinor

Jul 6 2012, 3:59pm


Views: 8994
Doesn't seem "distinctly dwarven"

Just because something is somewhat angular, doesn't mean its dwarven.

I mean, who gave the dwarves a monopoly on angular! Smile


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Jul 6 2012, 4:18pm


Views: 9017
Those are the ones

Peter & Fran Baggins.

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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jul 6 2012, 7:07pm


Views: 9061
The Hobbit/Comic-Con issue of EW is at newsstands now...

I've just found it yesterday at a local Wegmans market.

"Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house." - Aragorn


imin
Valinor


Jul 7 2012, 12:01am


Views: 9657
I agree

This is something i was trying to get across in the Arkenstone thread. This isnt to say i dont like the design of the dwarves - i do. I also think that if everything they have is angular then its making them seem culturally too one dimensional.

Saying that i think in the films, flowing curves means elves, angularity means dwarves. I do hope to see some more variety in dwarven design in TH though!


artemy
Lorien


Jul 7 2012, 10:27pm


Views: 9462
Just to clarify

Whenever I say something "looks dwarven" or any other culture, I'm almost always talking in terms of the film designs, which were quite rigid.

~Beneath the sun, all things must wear to an end at last~


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Jan 12 2013, 2:34am


Views: 1292
GOT IT! So cool :D //

 


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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Jan 15 2013, 2:40am


Views: 1464
**I've Gathered Geeky List Info from this post :) THANKS ALL! //

 


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