Aug 6 2011, 3:19pm
Well when you think about it, Fili and Kili might even be a good way to flesh out the focus on Bilbo and Thorin. Fili and Kili are sometimes sympathetic towards Bilbo and in the end, while they stay with the dwarves, they do tend to agree, along with Balin, that perhaps this isn't the best way to handle the whole "treasure" thing.
So in a way, they could possibly be used as a sort of "caught in the middle" type of plot point. They are dwarves, and they certainly remain loyal to their uncle, but they do have some sympathy for other opinions.
Definitely. The fact that Kili and Fili basically disagree with Thorin's refusal to share the gold, yet defend him anyway and die doing it, is to me very tragic. I'm really hoping that PJ writes some dialogue that goes, in essence anyway, like this:
Bard: Wow, we could really use some of your gold to rebuild our town.
Thorin: Go stuff yourself! It's all ours.
Fili/Kili: Uncle, this is wrong! There's tons of gold and Bard killed Smaug. We should do the right thing and share it with him.
Thorin: Ah, you're just children, you don't understand, this is a matter of dwarf honor. All you two do is joke and sing. You didn't even care about the gold we got, you just took those silly useless harps!
Fili/Kili: The harps are cool!
Thorin: Ah, kids today. You two are just a couple of hippies! Grow a beard, son!
Fili/Kili stomp off
Later on, the dwarves are getting their armor on to go fight. Thorin's putting on his armor and look up. There's Kili and Fili, looking smokin' hot in their metal duds.
Thorin: What the hell? I thought you two were against all this!
Fili/Kili: We are, but you are our mother's brother and we swore to protect you. We can sing songs after all this is over.
Thorin: That's more like it. Let's go kick some goblin butt!
(the battle occurs and, sadly, the dwarves do not kick goblin butt. Thorin is badly wounded and realizes, after watching a LOT of death, that maybe this was a bad idea and he's going to lose. He gets another spear in the breadbasket and looks up to see Kili and Fili hacking away the goblins who are attacking him. Earlier this would have filled him with dwarfy pride, but he's bleeding from several orifices and full of pain and is suddenly, blazingly aware that his young hippie nephews are about to get killed. So NOT in the original plan! Suddenly all the gold in the world don't mean squat.)
Thorin: You crazy kids! Get away from here, it's hopeless!
But, no use. Fili and Kili have both seen that Thorin is gravely wounded and they won't budge away from him - he's their uncle and they swore to defend him no matter what. We switch to Haldir-death-slo-mo and Thorin watches in horror as both brothers fall. Maybe Kili is wounded first, Fili rushes to defend him and then gets stabbed, I dunno. But the upshot is, Thorin sees both of his sister's sons die defending HIS dream -which they didn't even support, in the end.
Not sure where it goes from here, but in my world Thorin's speech at the end about the world being a better place if it valued songs and cheer above hoarded gold takes on an added poignancy. And in my world, when Kili and Fili are shown on their funeral biers each is holding not a sword, but a gleaming golden harp. Sob!!