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Sylvester McCoy up for Radagast the Brown?



News from Bree
spymaster@theonering.net

Aug 28 2010, 11:59am


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Sylvester McCoy up for Radagast the Brown?

Big news coming from the Dunoon Observer/Argyllshire Standard today. Sylvester McCoy confirms he is in contention with another actor for one of two Wizard parts in the upcoming 'Hobbit' films. We know Ian McKellen will like to return as Gandalf, and we've heard some rumblings of Radagast the Brown having a bigger role, so if you put two and two together -- is Sylvester McCoy up for Radagast the Brown?
"I am being cast in The Hobbit," he said. "We're currently in negotiations - there are two of us under consideration. It's not the Bilbo role, but could be bigger."

It sure sounds like great casting to us! What do you think? Share your thoughts in our forum and comments! [Read Full Article]


CreativeWriter
The Shire


Aug 28 2010, 5:21pm


Views: 2319
"Could be bigger"

That's a bit scary. Surely the only role bigger than Bilbo is Gandalf (assuming the second movie is Gandalf-centric), maybe Thorin. What could McCoy mean? "Bigger" for his career? "Bigger" in screen time? A physically "bigger" person (lol)?

Maybe PJ has McCoy pegged as a replacement Gandalf if McKellen drops out and a Radagast otherwise?


Eldy
Gondor


Aug 28 2010, 5:27pm


Views: 2245
Potentially Saruman

If the idea of filming Christopher Lee in London was rejected for one reason or another, McCoy could be being considered for that role as well. However, I think Radagast is more likely. Smile



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Elven
Valinor


Aug 28 2010, 5:32pm


Views: 2203
Interesting ...

Radagast? - I'll wait for something official Wink and it would be interesting to know who he is contending with for the part of a Wizard.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0566809/
Imdb have him listed as Bilbo though - so this is incorrect from the quote on HOME tORN.

and wiki has this info about him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_McCoy

OhNoTheyDidnt reported that it was rumoured that it had been confirmed from a 'reliable source' he had a role in The Hobbit last month - though it was suggested it might be Bilbo.
http://community.livejournal.com/...ydidnt/48969525.html

Smile


(This post was edited by Elven on Aug 28 2010, 5:35pm)


Eruonen
Valinor

Aug 28 2010, 5:38pm


Views: 2246
Any signs of life are good news!

I am confident that the actors being considered will be very good choices based on the LOTRs experience. Radagast has to present at the White Council and must take part in the preparations and assault on Dol Guldur...even if the book details are silent you can infer as much. As his specialty was with animals..birds etc...there are numerous opportunities for employing information gathering and news tidings activities...via creatures.

Bigger? Really, Bilbo is the biggest lead...but let us say Gandalf will be 50 / 50 with both story lines....we all hope Ian will return....then again, Saruman? It appears Christopher Lee will be unable to partake physically unless they shot scenes in England...please do! Otherwise, he could also be up for an evil part....who was in Dol Guldur

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dol_Guldur

After Sauron was defeated in the War of the Last Alliance, he retreated to Amon Lanc and built a fortress, where he hid in secrecy while recovering his strength. As the evil force residing there became apparent to the outside world, it was named the Necromancer.[14] It was not known at first that Sauron had regained physical form and was nursing himself to health; it was believed that a Nazgűl dominated the tower and land.[7] But as the power grew in strength, Gandalf the Grey became suspicious and in T.A. 2063 travelled to Dol Guldur to investigate.[14][15] Sauron anticipated his coming and withdrew to the East to remain hidden in secrecy[14][15] Thus began what later became known as The Watchful Peace, which lasted until T.A. 2460, when Sauron finally returned to Dol Guldur after years of hiding.[16]

In T.A. 2845, Thráin II, King of Durin's folk, the last bearer of one of the seven Rings of Power given to the Dwarves, was captured by Sauron's forces and was kept at Dol Guldur, where he yielded his ring to Sauron under torture.[17][18] Gandalf went again to Dol Guldur in T.A. 2850 to investigate his suspicions of the power that was rising, learned that this was indeed Sauron, and found Thráin in the dungeons close to death.[17] Thráin gave Gandalf a map and key to the Lonely Mountain, which Gandalf undertook to convey to Thorin Oakenshield, Thráin's son and heir.[19] Again anticipating the Wise, Sauron left Dol Guldur for Mordor in T.A. 2941.[20] Ten years later, when Sauron declared himself openly in Mordor, he sent three nazgűl back to reoccupy Dol Guldur.[21] Khaműl (one of the three) commanded the fortress in Sauron's absence.[22] In March of T.A. 3018, scouts from Dol Guldur became aware that Gollum had been brought to Mirkwood and was being held prisoner by Thranduil.[23] On 20 June T.A. 3018, orcs from Dol Guldur attacked the Elves who had imprisoned Gollum; in the chaos, Gollum escaped and disappeared.

I can't see him as the Witch King / Nazgul...but who knows?

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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Aug 28 2010, 6:39pm


Views: 2225
Radagast & Gandalf

Beorn & Bard and even the Master of Lake Town are all bigger than Bilbo. After all Bilbo is only a Hobbit.

Kangi Ska

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Tim
Tol Eressea


Aug 28 2010, 7:27pm


Views: 2177
"It's not the Bilbo role, but could be bigger."?

Pardon me, but that sounds completely silly. The name of the the movie is The Hobbit. Said hobbit is Bilbo. There is no bigger role. Which means either the actor doesn't have a clue about who Bilbo is or that this quote is straight from Imaginary Land.

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hamlet
Rivendell


Aug 28 2010, 7:46pm


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My guess is that he was just joking.

 


hamlet
Rivendell


Aug 28 2010, 9:41pm


Views: 2060
It gives me hope!

I'm glad to hear that these kinds of conversations are taking place. I feel like we're on the brink of exciting news. And being a big fan of Dr. Who, I think Sylvester would make a great Radagast.


Celedor
Rivendell


Aug 28 2010, 9:49pm


Views: 3288
Radagast the Fool!

I agree that it's more likely to be Saruman than Radagast. Considering Christopher Lee's reluctance to resume the role, and the difficulties for a man his age to travel and do the things necessary to appear in the prequel films, it's not surprising the filmmakers might want to recast the role. I also agree with the poster who said that there's no bigger role in The Hobbit than the titular character. My guess is McCoy was giving his hometown paper a bit of hyperbole.

By the way, there's a funny story behind the photo of Radagast that was posted with this article. Originally Radagast was going to appear in The Lord of the Rings, and they cast the actor who appears in the photo. But the part was cut from the script before filming, so the guy doesn't appear in the movies. However, after the films were completed, card-maker Decipher was doing a trading card set featuring characters like Radagast (and Tom Bombadil) who don't appear in the films. For Radagast, they hauled out his wizard costume that was made (but not used) and got the actor who was supposed to wear those clothes to pose for the card, and that's why theonering.net has a photo of Radagast: http://scrapbook.theonering.net/...ers/other/view/12628

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dormouse
Half-elven

Aug 28 2010, 10:01pm


Views: 2095
I find it hard to imagine...

... Sylvester McCoy as Saruman. He's rather small, for a start, and doesn't have the commanding presence and voice that Christopher Lee does. If they have to recast Saruman, as they probably will, I would have expected them to go for someone more like Lee, since he is so firmly established in the role.


Eruonen
Valinor

Aug 28 2010, 10:23pm


Views: 2052
Right, I cannot see him as Saruman...

Frank Langella or similar actors yes....McCoy is best cast as either a Hobbit or Dwarf.


Galadhwen
The Shire


Aug 29 2010, 12:02am


Views: 2075
Things are getting more interesting by the minute!

I really do hope that McCoy will be cast as Radagast - I have seen him (McCoy) in Doctor Who and I thought that he was a very good actor; so fingers crossed for me that he gets the part. In reply to dormouse's post:


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I find it hard to imagine Sylvester McCoy as Saruman. He's rather small, for a start, and doesn't have the commanding presence and voice that Christopher Lee does.


Those were my thoughts exactly. I just can't imagine anyone other than Lee portraying Saruman like he did. Although I do understand that because of physical condition Lee may or may not be able to reprise his role (if he does). Thanks for this update, News from Bree!

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Celedor
Rivendell


Aug 29 2010, 2:22am


Views: 2087
The Real McCoy


In Reply To
... Sylvester McCoy as Saruman. He's rather small, for a start, and doesn't have the commanding presence and voice that Christopher Lee does. If they have to recast Saruman, as they probably will, I would have expected them to go for someone more like Lee, since he is so firmly established in the role.



I'll be the first to admit that McCoy as Saruman seems odd. But I just can't see him competing against Ian McKellen for the role of Gandalf, and I'm not sold on the Radagast theory. Then again, maybe he's been cast as the Necromancer and is referring to him as the other wizard. It'll be fun to learn the answer to this riddle.

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Elizabeth
Half-elven


Aug 29 2010, 3:24am


Views: 2086
Radagast???

Gandalf mentions him once in passing, to Beorn. He has nothing to do in these films, unless it's going to be sheer fan-fic. To be sure, he has a slightly larger role in Unfinished Tales, but that material is off limits for licensing reasons.






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Pipe Dream
Gondor


Aug 29 2010, 5:11am


Views: 2109
I believe he's referring to size as in height of the character.

Taller then a hobbit, not size as in a larger part i.e. screen time.

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Pre-Pre-production goes ever on and on...


Compa_Mighty
Tol Eressea


Aug 29 2010, 7:31am


Views: 2018
Well, we've speculated about the possibility

Of Radagast replacing Beorn... this is all very strange,...

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Lorien

Aug 29 2010, 10:08am


Views: 1956
That would be awesome

He's a good and under appreciated actor and would be fun seeing him as Radagast and McKellen as Gandalf (crosses fingers)
He's due for a role anyway, he got so close to being Bilbo ten years ago.


maut
Rivendell


Aug 29 2010, 11:00am


Views: 2040
Why not Thorin?

His role is rather important..
But I think either Gandalf (Oh, please no!) or Radagast (why not) would sounds more plausible for me. Not Saruman for sure. He just doesn't suit for it.

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dormouse
Half-elven

Aug 29 2010, 3:44pm


Views: 2012
Well....

... apparently the article said 'Wizard' parts, so unless this is an almighty tease and 'wizard' was not supposed to have a capital letter (as in, "I'm being considered for ****** - that's a really wizard part!"), it has to mean Gandalf, Radagast or Saruman.

Saruman isn't in 'The Hobbit' proper, of course, but would probably have a place in the White Council/background to LotR material and it has been said that Christopher Lee doesn't want to travel so far again - but Sylvester McCoy just isn't right for Saruman. Radagast is mentioned and might be given more to do, and he's more of a blank canvas....

I do so hope it isn't Gandalf. That would be awful.


xy
Rohan

Aug 29 2010, 7:29pm


Views: 1893
Indeed.

And how do we know from that little bit he says --

"I am being cast in The Hobbit," he said. "We're currently in negotiations - there are two of us under consideration. It's not the Bilbo role, but could be bigger." --

that this is a wizard role ? C. Lee did say he doesn't want to be Saruman, but we don't know for sure Saruman will have any scenes in the movie. And I certainly think Ian McKellen will be Gandalf again.


(This post was edited by xy on Aug 29 2010, 7:30pm)


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Aug 29 2010, 7:45pm


Views: 2034
Radagast role "confirmed" as bring possibility for McCoy...

British telly mainstay and one-time Doctor Who, Sylvester McCoy, has just quashed rumours of his casting as Bilbo Baggins in The Hobbit: Part I. So what is his real relationship with the film? Who will he really be playing?
This afternoon we’ve been told by a 100% trustworthy source close to the situation that McCoy is in line for the role of Radagast the Brown. For a bit of context, Radagast is a wizard who, in The Fellowship of the Ring, unwittingly lures his ally, Gandalf, into a trap set by Saruman.
Will the show the off-page battle between the wizards and the Necromancer as part of the bok’s expansion into two movies?
If all goes to plan, then McCoy should be heading to New Zealand November-December time. Bleeding Cool couldn’t be more excited. And Tom Baker can just go swivel.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/08/29/scoop-we-confirm-sylvester-mccoy-up-for-hobbit-role/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:+BleedingCool+%28Bleeding+Cool+Comic+News+%26+Rumors%29&utm_content=Twitter

BTW, here's the description of the part from the official casting call (??), or whatever it was, that went out early this year:

[RADAGAST THE BROWN] One of the Istari... Like the other five Wizards, RADAGAST has taken the form of an old man. Somewhat scruffy and prone to wandering the wilds,. He is however a close friend of GANDALF the Grey who holds him in great affection and admires RADAGAST’s gentle spirit.. He has a cheery disposition and a twinkle in his eye; RADAGAST is eccentric, forgetful and easily distracted. This role will require a wig, beard and possible prosthetic make- up. LEAD. AGE: 50-70. ACCENT – STANDARD R.P. OR SLIGHTLY ACCENTED REGIONAL ENGLISH ACCENT.

Samuel L. Jackson for Bilbo, Woody Allen for Thorin, Lewis Black for Bard and Gilbert Gottfried for Smaug!

MAKE IT HAPPEN, PETER AND...WHOEVER!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Aug 29 2010, 7:53pm)


Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Aug 29 2010, 9:34pm


Views: 1846
Well, that casting call description

certainly looks to be right down McCoy's alley. It will be very interesting to see what they do with that character.

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Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Aug 29 2010, 9:45pm


Views: 1903
I'm quite certain....


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I do so hope it isn't Gandalf. That would be awful.

It isn't Gandalf. If there were even the smallest hint of Sir Ian not coming back for Gandalf, the internet would have erupted. He was the first of the cast to be approached, he's seen the script, he's made enthusiastic comments....he's as solid as anything can be until the green light comes and contracts are signed. He came pre-cast, you might say. Cool

All signs are pointing at McCoy being Radagast.

Silverlode

"Of all faces those of our familiares are the ones both most difficult to play fantastic tricks with, and most difficult really to see with fresh attention. They have become like the things which once attracted us by their glitter, or their colour, or their shape, and we laid hands on them, and then locked them in our hoard, acquired them, and acquiring ceased to look at them.
Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you."
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Eldy
Gondor


Aug 29 2010, 9:53pm


Views: 1865
A "100% trustworthy source close to the situation"...

...is exactly the kind of source that I don't trust. It might be legitimate, but chances are it's just someone hopping on the news bandwagon, especially given the timing with the previous scoop. I don't pay much attention to reports from anonymous sources, at least not when they come from a news outlet I know nothing about.



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Celedor
Rivendell


Aug 29 2010, 9:53pm


Views: 1011
Deep Thoughts

Well, while these sort of rumors sometimes turn out to be hogwash, it's looking increasingly like we've found our Radagast. I was actually beginning to wonder if McCoy was playing a character that perhaps doesn't appear in the books but was created by Peter Jackson and Guillermo del Toro. Granted, this is a crackpot theory which never had much of a chance of being true, but think of it this way: what would you have said back in 1998 had Lawrence Makoare told you he was playing one of the lead baddies in The Fellowship of the Ring? You would have thought Sauron. Or perhaps Saruman, right? You probably never would have considered Lurtz, who doesn't appear in the books but is one of the leads in the film. Okay, so flash forward to now. What if Peter and Guillermo created a new evil wizard for the two prequel films? Instead of doing a Dul Guldur plot that has little to do with Bilbo's adventures, they could have created an entirely new plot for Gandalf that ties into Bilbo's adventure. Also, you wouldn't need Christopher Lee to reprise a role he's probably not going to anyway, and you wouldn't be tied down to a political plot that you may not have all the rights to do. Furthermore, you'd have an antagonist for Gandalf, which would mean our favorite wizard couldn't swoop in and save the day anytime he wanted. And instead of the book's idea of a hodgepodge of unrelated adventures with no bad guy (with the exception of Smaug), you could unify all of Bilbo's adventures with a common antagonist. There is some logic in this argument, right? (Just a little?)

So that's my crackpot theory as to why McCoy is playing a wizard who is not Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast, Alatar, or Pallando. And truth be told, I never believed it to begin with either. But it's fun to think about.

Now I'm wondering how big Radagast's role will be in the upcoming films. Even if it's supposed to be a big one now, it's always possible he'll end up like Morwen. Originally, she was supposed to be this major character in The Two Towers film, and they even filmed Eowyn delivering her baby during the battle of Helm's Deep. In the final cut, her part is so small, most people are probably wondering, "Who the heck is Morwen?" (She's the mother of Freda and Eothain.)

And by the way, if we can defend McCoy's assertion that his part is bigger than Bilbo's by pointing out Radagast is taller, it's time to give John Lennon an apology and say, "You're right. You are indeed two inches taller than Jesus."

-Celedor-
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Celedor
Rivendell


Aug 29 2010, 10:01pm


Views: 1043
Fake Casting Call


In Reply To

BTW, here's the description of the part from the official casting call (??), or whatever it was, that went out early this year:

[RADAGAST THE BROWN] One of the Istari... Like the other five Wizards, RADAGAST has taken the form of an old man. Somewhat scruffy and prone to wandering the wilds,. He is however a close friend of GANDALF the Grey who holds him in great affection and admires RADAGAST’s gentle spirit.. He has a cheery disposition and a twinkle in his eye; RADAGAST is eccentric, forgetful and easily distracted. This role will require a wig, beard and possible prosthetic make- up. LEAD. AGE: 50-70. ACCENT – STANDARD R.P. OR SLIGHTLY ACCENTED REGIONAL ENGLISH ACCENT.



I just did a quick search of this, by the way, and according to TheOneRing.net, this is phony casting call information: http://www.cinemablend.com/...velations-16383.html (see the update information at the end).

I'm totally not blaming the person for posting this by the way; I've fallen into the same trap myself. I'm just trying to set the record straight.

-Celedor-
www.jwbraun.com


Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Aug 29 2010, 10:32pm


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I really hope this is true.

Whether or not the character description is fake, I like the idea of McCoy playing Radagast - and of seeing Radagast at all in the movie! My only pause for thought is how good a fit it would be to have both Radagast and Beorn in the film. Shapeshifting aside, those two are cut from quite similar cloth.

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Aug 29 2010, 10:44pm


Views: 958
Only superficially

Despite their affinity for animals, Beorn and Radagast are very different characters. Beorn's main role in The Hobbit is to provide a traditional warrior hero (even more than Thorin or Bard) to contrast with Bilbo's completely non-traditional non-warrior hero. Radagast couldn't possibly fulfill that role.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

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Elizabeth
Half-elven


Aug 29 2010, 10:48pm


Views: 1007
Radagast as a substitute for Beorn

...would be way preferable to turning him into a whole new villain.

If Christopher Lee can't do Saruman, Christopher Lloyd would be a fine substitute. And he really doesn't need to be villainous in these movies, anyway, since Gandalf trusted him implicitly in the beginning of FotR.






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Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Aug 29 2010, 11:57pm


Views: 915
Celedor...

Actually the info in the link you provided is not entirely accurate. TORN stated that SOME of the information on the casting call was inaccurate, while some, evidently, was closer to truth. Seeing as we've had actors apparently auditioning for Primula, and now Radagast, the old casting sheet would appear to be at least PARTIALLY correct...

Samuel L. Jackson for Bilbo, Woody Allen for Thorin, Lewis Black for Bard and Gilbert Gottfried for Smaug!

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Eldy
Gondor


Aug 30 2010, 12:07am


Views: 920
Re: "bigger than"

I think McCoy was probably talking tongue-in-cheek, regardless of whether he meant a bigger role or literally bigger. I don't think it's a big deal either way.



There's a feeling I get, when I look to the West...



Elizabeth
Half-elven


Aug 30 2010, 12:09am


Views: 962
If he meant a "more prominent role" than Bilbo

...then I'm very, very concerned about these movies!






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film fanNo.7
Bree


Aug 30 2010, 3:09am


Views: 974
I like this better...

Because when I saw the more recent pictures of him when he's older, he just looked a bit too old for Bilbo's role in my eyes, but I can totally see him as Radagast

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hobbiton28
The Shire


Aug 30 2010, 4:01am


Views: 1002
Sylvester McCoy Confirmed to be in New Zealand in October!!

I saw this a couple of weeks back.. But doesnt appear to have been mentioned here..

Sylvester McCoy has confirmed his attendance at the Armagedon Convention in Auckland.. Now thats quite a coincidence Cool

http://armageddonexpo.com/...movie-stars/#skiptop


dormouse
Half-elven

Aug 30 2010, 7:37am


Views: 908
I can't imagine...

... why they might want to replace Beorn. He is such a gift of a character, especially these days when bear-Beorn doesn't have to be played by a man in a furry suit.


Bond-Of-Blood
Rivendell

Aug 30 2010, 7:57am


Views: 977
Casting calls NOT FAKE!

They are the real deal.... trust me! Tongue


sharku
Rivendell

Aug 30 2010, 10:19am


Views: 899
Lloyd?


In Reply To
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If Christopher Lee can't do Saruman, Christopher Lloyd would be a fine substitute. And he really doesn't need to be villainous in these movies, anyway, since Gandalf trusted him implicitly in the beginning of FotR.


I love Christopher Lloyd - really do... but his voice is in no way a 'fine substitute' for Lee's.


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Aug 30 2010, 1:43pm


Views: 907
All of it?

That would make me quite nervous. Some of that casting call was not very reassuring.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

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dormouse
Half-elven

Aug 30 2010, 3:14pm


Views: 843
*Shudders*

I agree. Especially (for me) the extraneous elves. So far as I remember there was a battling female elf and a romantic male one - or something like that. If those are genuine, then I sincerely hope they perish on the cutting room floor!


Vangalad
Lorien


Aug 30 2010, 3:35pm


Views: 847
It would be interesting

indeed if Radagast is included in the scripts, but i would expect his role to be rather small, more like an addition to the members of the white counsil and the actions involving Gandalf and fortunately Saruman (fingers crossed for C.Lee).


Eruonen
Valinor

Aug 30 2010, 5:13pm


Views: 802
I don't think his voice fits...

Christopher Lloyd, interesting actor, not sure he would fit as a Saruman substitute...he has a rather distinctive voice that seems a mismatch to me. But, as a Radagast character maybe...he plays the eccentric quite well.

Saruman will not be evil in these movies...maybe shades of it at the very end as a bridge...but he is still head of the White Council and opposes Sauron. We will see the uncorrupted Saruman ...well, we might, depending on the script of course.

I say, shoot the White Council scenes in London.


(This post was edited by Eruonen on Aug 30 2010, 5:15pm)


Sunflower
Valinor

Aug 31 2010, 6:42am


Views: 785
LOL..here we go again:)

   

And you'd think PJ learned his lesson...or maybe he's trotting that out as a tease for us, to get us all worked into knots....:)

LOL, funny how we have NO NEWS but then a possible CASTUNG ITEM comes up and we get prople coming up out of the woodwork...I am here only b/c I saw that priceless "73 yrs" Hobbit diagram on the Homepage, and I was going to say how uterrly freaky it was, b/c for the past few days I have thought about posting a question on TORN asking someone to do a detailed "timeline" of the whole Hobbit saga this past decade. And lo and behol,d here one is!

it woul;d be great of that cartoon was rerinted in a thread here, and enlarged, please, maybe, Mr Cere?:) (It might help Krsiten Thompson too:)

As far as the topic in question...I have learned not to take any casting rumor seriously. They've come and gone on here over the past yr. Considering the continuing amorphous statte of the production timeline, and the ever-elusive greenlight, the agents of these actors aren;t in the know any more than you or I, and so their schedules aren;t set in stone. I'll beleive it when we see The Greenlight.


Eldy
Gondor


Aug 31 2010, 3:42pm


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Then again...

...it could be just a coincidence. Remember David Tenant at Comic-Con 2009. Wink



There's a feeling I get, when I look to the West...



grammaboodawg
Immortal


Aug 31 2010, 7:11pm


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*wild applause* I'm just glad

to see they're having Radagast at all! FREAKIN AWESOME!!!! *spins in chair* :D


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I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.



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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Aug 31 2010, 7:12pm


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You're so cute!

Heart

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

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Milknut
Rohan

Sep 5 2010, 6:08am


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Why not "the Bilbo role"????? He would be the ideal pick...

Dang. Well, there's always Martin Freeman.


Pioneer
Rivendell


Sep 6 2010, 6:59pm


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Christopher Plumber

If Christopher Lee can't do it, I'd cast Christopher Plumber as Saruman.


Nick Frost for Bombur


Eruonen
Valinor

Sep 6 2010, 9:25pm


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He would make a fine wizard...

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2008/01/24/chrisplum460.jpg

http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/american-stars-who-are-actually-canadian/christopher-plummer.jpg

However, he is 81 so who knows what his health will be whenever this thing gets going.......the longest yellow light intersection in movie history? Or is it still a red light?


(This post was edited by Eruonen on Sep 6 2010, 9:28pm)


phredegar
Bree

Sep 8 2010, 11:22am


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Christopher Plummer

He'd be a great wizard but I want Christopher Lee for Sharkey. Mr Plummer could use his Tolstoy beard.


ToshoftheWuffingas
Registered User

Sep 8 2010, 4:02pm


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Who for Radagast !!!!?

Sorry, my eyesight is failing. I thought I'd read Sylvester Stallone for Radagast.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal

Sep 17 2010, 9:24pm


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Not Radagast but Thorin?


In Reply To
And how do we know from that little bit he says --

"I am being cast in The Hobbit," he said. "We're currently in negotiations - there are two of us under consideration. It's not the Bilbo role, but could be bigger." --

that this is a wizard role ? C. Lee did say he doesn't want to be Saruman, but we don't know for sure Saruman will have any scenes in the movie. And I certainly think Ian McKellen will be Gandalf again.


I don't see Radagast as the kind of part that McCoy is describing. No matter how much it is beefed up, it is only a minor supporting role. Now, if McCoy is up for the role of Thorin Oakenshield--now that is a big part that I could see him in.