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Tobey Maguire in talks to play Bilbo?



duats
Grey Havens

Dec 14 2009, 7:55pm


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Tobey Maguire in talks to play Bilbo?

Latino Review seems to think so:

http://www.latinoreview.com/...ing-hobbit-feet-8786

Okay, first of all, Maguire would essentially have to live in New Zealand for the 14-15 month shoot from mid-2010 to mid-2011. But this would make it impossible for him to film Spider-man 4 this year, which he is signed for. I don't see any logical way for this to work out.

Still, Latino Review isn't The Sun. They have gotten solid news before. They were the first ones to break Heath Ledger's casting in The Dark Knight.

Logic dictates that this is just a rumor, but I don't know. I trust LR checked their sources.

I, for one, don't approve of this choice. While I am an advocate of Del Toro recasting Bilbo, I'd prefer a talented actor who bears some resemblance to Ian Holm, so that the transition from TH to the FoTR prologue isn't so drastic.

Thoughts?


Alex Maglor
Bree


Dec 14 2009, 9:22pm


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NO WAY!

Please! NOOOOOOOO!!





Myrkvidr
The Shire


Dec 14 2009, 9:55pm


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niet!

eh.. not who I'd choose by a long shot!

"While I am an advocate of Del Toro recasting Bilbo, I'd prefer a talented actor who bears some resemblance to Ian Holm, so that the transition from TH to the FoTR prologue isn't so drastic."

I agree with this 100% percent.


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Empedocles
Rivendell


Dec 14 2009, 10:50pm


Views: 2114
Well...

He certainly looks lika Elijah's cousin or half brother, or something like that.

I don't really see him in the role but he's a good actor, he could pull it off.

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Alex Maglor
Bree


Dec 14 2009, 11:05pm


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Good actor??

Please THORIN...DONT DIEEE!!!



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debo
Rohan

Dec 14 2009, 11:10pm


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Noooooo! I want James McAvoy!

 

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BlueMan
Rivendell


Dec 14 2009, 11:24pm


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Why do they assume it's Bilbo that he is in talks for??

He might play someone else ... an orc ... an elf ... another Hobbit ... he didn't really spill the beans on what part he is interested in. Also, some agency saying it might be Bilbo is not the most reliable source for anything.

Then again ... he is a great actor, though Spider-Man hasn't brought out his best side. And he looks a bit like the young Ian Holm ... BUT he is American, isn't he? Can he do a proper English accent? I doubt it. Bilbo ought to be very British.

But let's see whether Tobey really is in talks for Bilbo and not someone else.

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elanesse
Rivendell


Dec 14 2009, 11:45pm


Views: 2091
no star please

I think, the Hobbit doesn't need any more stars. There are already enough. Please let Bilbo be portrayed by a quite unknown actor.


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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Dec 14 2009, 11:49pm


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John Simm for Bilbo Bagins in The Hobbit!

 

Kangi Ska


olipowell
Bree

Dec 15 2009, 12:21am


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No John Simm

John Simm was only this week confirmed to be playing Hamlet at the Sheffield crucible from June...So I think we can now count him out. I know they are seeing unknowns for Bilbo and something tells me they will go with a complete unknown...not what I thought a few weeks ago but as I discover more about how casting is unfolding in London I def think it may be an unknown.

: D


Glorfindel
Rivendell

Dec 15 2009, 1:21am


Views: 1965
Sounds intriguing...

what have you 'discovered about how casting is unfolding in London'. Please share!


Eldameldo
Bree


Dec 15 2009, 1:49am


Views: 2006
I would like James McAvoy as Bilbo...

...I hope it's not Toby M. Nothing against him but I don't feel 'a fit' for him in The Hobbit. JMHO


Owain
Tol Eressea


Dec 15 2009, 2:02am


Views: 2016
This quote from the article seems inaccurate...


Quote
Fan speculation has been running rampant for the past year. First it was rumored that James McAvoy was a contender until Peter Jackson debunked that rumor.

Then Daniel Radcliffe was making the rumor mill until he personally said, “Thanks. But no thanks.”


I don't remember them "debunking" James McAvoy... Daniel Radcliffe was debunked by his own admission...

I think this news syndication is trying to stir up international attention...

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sara
Lorien


Dec 15 2009, 2:02am


Views: 2010
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Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Dec 15 2009, 2:16am


Views: 1977
Maybe one of the Mirkwood Spiders.

 

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chris63
Registered User


Dec 15 2009, 2:18am


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bilbo

Looks like a Hobbit.Crazy


Xoanon
PTB


Dec 15 2009, 2:19am


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Not Happening

 
As much as I like Tobey (Spider-Man crying not included), this isn't true according to my sources.


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aranelthehobbit22
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Dec 15 2009, 2:54am


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I'm so glad this was debunked

CrazyAs much as I like Spider-man, I have to admit, Toby Maguire is no hobbit!
Frodo is supposed to look young, like a robust hobbit just out of his tweens. But Bilbo gets the Ring AFTER 50, he should look like he's about 40 or so, the Ring keeps him looking about 40 and 50's when he's older, unlike Frodo who inherits the Ring earlier in his life.

But I do like the idea of James McAvoy, he looks old enough to do something like this.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Dec 15 2009, 3:17am


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Too Bad I was Pulling for the Spider Role

 

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Ainu Laire
Tol Eressea


Dec 15 2009, 3:30am


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I trust your sources over others, to say the least!

Good to know :D

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Dec 15 2009, 3:37am


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*groan*

I can just hear it now:

Bilbo:

Old fat spider spinning in a tree!
Even with 'spi-dey sense' you can't see me!

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Compa_Mighty
Tol Eressea


Dec 15 2009, 3:58am


Views: 1922
Me too...

For a moment it was Spider-Hobbit all over again! Crazy

Here's to Del Toro becoming the Irvin Kershner of Middle Earth!

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Sunflower
Valinor

Dec 15 2009, 4:13am


Views: 1885
*Giggles*

This is worse then the "not mentioning Andy" bit from PJ...

Seriously, you guys..HOW could you pssibly take this seriously for a moment?
(Hey, maybe the "Big Announcement" tomorrow is Shia LeBouf! LaughLaugh)


MrCere
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Dec 15 2009, 6:15am


Views: 1900
It is

ONE Website blog listed Radcliffe on a poll question. He was NEVER actually said by anybody at anytime to be thought of for Bilbo but internet people desperate for news reported it like it was possible and it got a life of its own. It never even had a source or was said by the originator to be rumored.

It never was. Very poor journalistic standards at work.

The Latino Review, by the way, is more solid than that and in that article it says the writer asked around in a way about Toby M. that I consider to be responsible.

Of course Calisuri / Xoanon updating the post on MAIN and saying it isn't true is something I personally would bank on 100%.

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MrCere
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Dec 15 2009, 6:24am


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Latino review is pretty solid

I feel confident they reported the truth exactly as it was told to the reporter. And, Jack Black for King Kong? Seriously? Yes.

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Milknut
Rohan

Dec 15 2009, 7:15am


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That's exactly why Martin Freeman is the only choice.

He's got it all. The acting, the humor, the resemblance to Holm, and the downright hobbityness that Bilbo needs.


Chiticot
The Shire


Dec 15 2009, 8:17am


Views: 919
I hope not!

I really hope it is not true. I have nothing against him, but I don't find him proper for this role (and, as someone said before, a very British role). Maybe, James McAvoy would be better Smile


Kelvarhin
Half-elven


Dec 15 2009, 9:12am


Views: 913
*chuckling* Actually ever since I read this

I've had this song running though my head

"Bilbo-man, Bilbo-man, he can do anything a Bilby can" SlyEvilAngelic




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dfooster
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Dec 15 2009, 10:09am


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martin freeman

martin freeman woud be a perfect choice as he ticks all the boxes. he is british, he can act, he is quirky and he looks like a young bilbo.

problem solved!!!


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Dec 15 2009, 10:19am


Views: 897
Nope.

If they're picking someone so iconic with another characters... then I choose Dom Monaghan. Or Craig Parker (Haldir). Nobey Tobey Thank'ee.



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Dec 15 2009, 10:22am


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There. That's better :) //

 



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Bareandir
The Shire


Dec 15 2009, 11:18am


Views: 979
debunked

I am so glad this wasen't true.

I can hardly watch the spidy movies due to his poor acting.

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ceti
The Shire


Dec 15 2009, 11:42am


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OMG!

Thanks it's not true. I think they'll choose some guy not so famous, as they did with LOTR.


GaLoS-87
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Dec 15 2009, 12:01pm


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unkowns

If it were up to me, the entire movie (excluding returning actors) would be cast with unkowns. One thing I've noticed over the years is that the more movies i see a certain actor in, the less likely i am to connect with their character. Seeing Tom Cruise in anything today does nothing for me. The novelty for most big name actors has worn off Unsure We need new blood to fill the void Sly

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L. Ron Halfelven
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Dec 15 2009, 1:52pm


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Lindele
Gondor

Dec 15 2009, 4:23pm


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No Thanks

Not even a little bit


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Dec 15 2009, 4:32pm


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thesithempire
Rivendell

Dec 15 2009, 7:07pm


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If Martin Freeman isn't cast as Bilbo, my interest in this film goes down

I've no doubt McAvoy would do a fine job as Bilbo.

But I'm not interested in FINE. Just as Ian McKellan IS Gandalf, Cate Blanchette IS Galadriel, and Elijah Wood IS Frodo, Martin Freeman IS Bilbo!

Anything less than that is a capitulation to all the prepubescent females on this board clamoring sweatily for McAvoy.

As regards Toby, he'll be fine as Bard (or even a youngish-looking Thranduil).


Malveth The Eternal
Lorien

Dec 15 2009, 7:10pm


Views: 836
...

no Toby anywhere, please.


Lunamoth
Rohan


Dec 15 2009, 9:06pm


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er... who?

There are pre-pubescent females around here? *looks confused*

I think an unknown would be best, so that everyone can sit back and enjoy the performance rather than constantly thinking "there's Martin Freeman/Tim from The Office/Arthur Dent".


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Nesse
Lorien

Dec 15 2009, 9:16pm


Views: 862
lol....

Toby as Bard or Thandruil king of Mirkwood...nevah!!!!!!!!!! I think you may have been smokin the 'old toby'


thesithempire
Rivendell

Dec 15 2009, 9:17pm


Views: 803
Unknown


In Reply To
<<I think an unknown would be best, so that everyone can sit back and enjoy the performance rather than constantly thinking "there's Martin Freeman/Tim from The Office/Arthur Dent". >>

Sean Astin and Elijah Wood were far more well-known than Martin Freeman. Yet few were distracted by The Goonies star in Fellowship. Hitchhikers was a flop in the U.S. The Office, while a success in the UK, is only known by a relative few here in the States.

More importantly, in both personality and looks, Martin IS that character. There is no other Bilbo out there.



(This post was edited by thesithempire on Dec 15 2009, 9:21pm)


thesithempire
Rivendell

Dec 15 2009, 9:28pm


Views: 873
Bard and Bilbo


In Reply To
<<Toby as Bard or Thandruil king of Mirkwood...nevah!!!!!!!!!! I think you may have been smokin the 'old toby'>>

LOL, I never said it was ideal. It's do-able. But I don't have any real attachment to those characters, so as long as the actor is good enough in the role, and the role is well-written (unlike say Theoden which was a complete and egregious departure from the book), I'm open to Bard and Thranduil being any number of characters.

But Bilbo's the big one. A lot of us have a very intense affiliation with that character. And to be fully forthright, while I think Ian Holm is a wonderful actor and did a great job portraying an older version of that character, he was cast too old for the role. Gandalf tells him he hasn't aged "a day", which we understand is due to his possession of the ring. This will cause an issue when fans watch The Hobbit followed by Fellowship, and will necessitate either removing the line in a later version, or replacing the actor in FOTR. Since I don't see that happening anytime soon, the former seems to be the best course.



Nesse
Lorien

Dec 15 2009, 9:47pm


Views: 795
'clamoring sweatily for McAvoy.'

Its a long time ago since I was pre pubescent but I will hope to be 'clamoring sweatily' over Bard, Thandruil or Beorn as us females were spoilt for choice in LotR, some how a hobbit and a bunch of wrinkly dwarves wont do it for me no matter who plays those parts and if Jedward are chosen to play Fili and Kili even more so thats why we need a few hunky males in TH and Toby isnt hunky by any stretch of the imagination (no offence intended).

Im just not sure how old GDT and PJ will want to potray Bilbo, I always liked Mc Avoy but would be happy with Freeman but I also think Colm Meany would look the part too.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Dec 15 2009, 9:55pm


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Colm Meany : Very Interesting

Colm Meany is an option I had not heard mentioned before. He has the look. He has the accent. He is the right age. He is a really good actor.


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Theodred
Lorien


Dec 15 2009, 10:03pm


Views: 770
I have the feeling that...

In the end it will all work out fine. I have the fullest confidence that PJ and GdT will pick the right actor for Bilbo Baggins, that most people will be happy with the actor they choose, and the choosen actor WILL play a believable Bilbo.


M&M
Rivendell


Dec 15 2009, 11:08pm


Views: 783
Please nooo!!!!!!!

 

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Annael
Immortal


Dec 15 2009, 11:26pm


Views: 761
LOL!

well, this postmenopausal female, much as she also loves McAvoy, would rather see Freeman in the role over all the other names so far put forth. But I'm willing to be surprised by an unknown. All the great actors were "unknown" once . . .

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Patty
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Dec 15 2009, 11:32pm


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I don't quite see "Morgan the Goat"

as Bilbo, but he would be a fantastic dwarf, IMHO.

(I loved Colm Meany in"The Englishman Who Went Up A Hill and Came Down A Mountain!)

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GaladrielTX
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Dec 16 2009, 1:07am


Views: 728
You know...

He even looks a little like Ian Holm. If he put on a few pounds, yes, I likey.

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Patty
Immortal


Dec 16 2009, 1:35am


Views: 593
Agreed! Since my horse is too tall to run

(Hugh Bonneville) I'm another PM female for Freeman.

* and I just loved McAvoy in Becoming Jane and Penelope*

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Drizzt
The Shire


Dec 16 2009, 2:34am


Views: 692
Webbed feet?

When I first read the headline with the wording "webbed feet" I thought of a duck. What the heck? Spiders don't have feet. Legs, yes. Feet, no. Shelob might be a bit miffed at the disregard for her correct anatomical makeup.

Tobey as Bilbo would be weird. Not bad, not good, just weird.


Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Dec 16 2009, 6:17am


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Clearly, our reputation as a "femine" board precedes us. Quick! Hide the Barbies! ;) //



ringer5150
The Shire


Dec 16 2009, 8:46am


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The comic book fan of the family

My 13year old comic book fan son debunked this rumor for me LOL! He started asking how is Tobey gonna do spiderman 4 and THE HOBBIT at the same time. He showed me his wizard magazine with Sam Raimi's interview that say S4 goes into production in 2010. Smile I assured him that tobey will be sporting the spidey costume rather than sporting hairy feet.


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Dec 16 2009, 10:20am


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Dec 16 2009, 10:40am


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"Just as" means "in the same way that"

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean by "Just as Ian McKellan IS Gandalf, Cate Blanchette IS Galadriel, and Elijah Wood IS Frodo, Martin Freeman IS Bilbo!"

McKellan, Blanchette, and Wood performed in those roles, on film. So we have a basis for saying, or at least asserting, that they are the best possible actors for those roles.

Did I miss an existing performance of Bilbo by Mr. Freeman, that would let us say the same for him?




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Tim
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Dec 16 2009, 6:05pm


Views: 580
C'mon don't be cheeky

The person was saying they see Freeman as Bilbo in the same way they see the others as the roles they played.

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Dec 16 2009, 7:04pm


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Cheek

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thesithempire
Rivendell

Dec 16 2009, 7:11pm


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The embodiment of a character

Exactly, 5x5. And in fact, I had been saying Cate Blanchette IS Galadriel since I first saw her in Elizabeth, long before I knew she'd been cast in the role (I think before I even knew they were filming LOTR).

For Ian McKellan, it was the moment Gandalf rode onto the screen that my jaw dropped and I thought THAT's him! THAT's Gandalf! It was a very odd and wondrous moment, like seeing the book come to life in a way I didn't think possible.

When the possibility of filming The Hobbit was first discussed, only one actor came to mind as the ultimate embodiment of that character: Martin Freeman.

Anyone else will be a tremendous letdown and missed opportunity.


Silverlode
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Dec 16 2009, 7:21pm


Views: 595
Or just possibly....

a marvelous surprise?

Speaking as another Martin Freeman supporter, it would be as well to remember that there may be others out there as well or even better suited to the role but we just don't know them. They did a very impressive job of casting for LOTR, I have hopes that they will do as well for The Hobbit.

I'd love to see MF cast, but even if he's not, I'm still going to keep an open mind and give GDT and PJ a chance to win me over to their choice.

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thesithempire
Rivendell

Dec 16 2009, 7:31pm


Views: 591
Unknown... maybe.


In Reply To
<<Speaking as another Martin Freeman supporter, it would be as well to remember that there may be others out there as well or even better suited to the role but we just don't know them. They did a very impressive job of casting for LOTR, I have hopes that they will do as well for The Hobbit.

I'd love to see MF cast, but even if he's not, I'm still going to keep an open mind and give GDT and PJ a chance to win me over to their choice.>>

I'd be far more willing to give an unknown actor, who's appearance and personality seem right for the role, a chance than any of the names that have been bandied about -- apart from Freeman -- that are so clearly wrong for the role, e.g., James McAvoy. As an elf or a human, McAvoy's got my support. He's not a Hobbit and he's sure as hell NOT Bilbo! Mad



gmanzano
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Dec 16 2009, 10:48pm


Views: 564
What's the issue with Ian Holm again?

The Hobbit clearly states that Bilbo is 50 years old. In Hollywood, we have people in their mid-twenties playing high school teenagers. Even if Holm is in his early 60's, I don't see a problem with him reprising the role. I mean they have footage of him already in the flashback sequences. Sorry ... just found out that he's 78. Nevertheless, they are not casting for Frodo and I don't see why they are insisting on selecting someone that doesn't fit the age bracket?


Mr.A.Crowley
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Dec 17 2009, 8:05am


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ME TOO! MCAVOY ! He's the best, by far.

 


Mr.A.Crowley
Registered User

Dec 17 2009, 8:07am


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How can you choose anyone over James? He is so brilliant! And this from a dude.

 


Owain
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Dec 17 2009, 8:37am


Views: 615
gmanzano... welcome to the boards

The Ian Holm question is one that has been turned over quite a few times... I think its just a simple matter of his age and the requirements for the part. Being almost 80, the trek to New Zealand, the demands of over a year of shooting (possibly more with re-shooting) and the physicality of the role might be too much to ask of the well loved and admired Mr. Holm.Smile

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Annael
Immortal


Dec 17 2009, 4:52pm


Views: 570
It's not up to me, y'know

I agree he's brilliant. I've loved everything he's done. But that doesn't mean someone else couldn't be brilliant in the role too. And I like the idea of an unknown because then the chances are greater that I will be watching BILBO, not an actor I admire playing Bilbo, y'know?

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Isildur's Bane
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Dec 23 2009, 2:43am


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Ehh....

Not sure...


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Dec 31 2009, 12:27am


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Tobey as Bilbo? Nuh Uh!

MadI would hate for him to play Bilbo. I think James McEvoy would make a wonderful choice for Bilbo as he's a tremendously talented actor, but apparently that's only wishful thinking. So I hope someone that appreciates Tolkein and is a REALLY taleneted actor should be cast. And no one from America can really play the part.


the_eye_of_kyi
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Dec 31 2009, 12:38am


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As an American...

In reviewing who Martin Freeman is, I think he'd make a wonderful Bilbo Baggins. He's got the qualities that can make a Bilbo. And looks the part! Hope it works out for him. He truly deserves it. And honestly he's not too well known by name or even face over here in the States.