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The Search For Spock and Frodo and Gollum inside Mount Doom

CMackintosh Rivendell Aug 10, 10:56am Views: 8351 The Search For Spock and Frodo and Gollum inside Mount Doom I should've guessed it. Here's another allusion - in Star Trek 3 The Search For Spock, Admiral James T. Kirk is stuck on the planet Genesis with his enemy the unnamed captain of the Klingon vessel - after he's made that famous speech "You Klingon bastard, you killed my son!" - with the unconscious body of the rebodied Spock. And the two, the Federation admiral and the Klingon captain, get into a fight. They tumble onto a small ledge, above a ravine which is full of fires breaking out from inside the doomed planet, the ledge crumbles, and the Klingon captain is left hanging by his hands from what's left of the ledge they were fighting on. Admiral Kirk offers his hand to the Klingon captain, who tries to drag him in with him, and Admiral Kirk kicks him off and down into the fiery ravine. After which Admiral Kirk commandeers the Klingon veseel and they escape while the planet Genesis explodes into flames and spouts of fiery lava. Now looking at the sequence of events inside the cavern of Mount Doom, we see that both Frodo and Gollum fight on a narrow ledge above a fiery hollow. Gollum takes a tumble and falls into the fiery hollow. Frodo nearly follows him, but Sam pulls him out. They make it out while Mount Doom explodes into gouts and rivers of fiery lava. And are rescued by a flying friend or three. I get the distinct impression that scene from Star Trek 3 The Search For Spock made a big impact on Peter Jackson when it came out in 1979.

DGHCaretaker Rohan Aug 10, 5:34pm Views: 8332 Clarification Spock, David and Saavik were on Genesis. Kirk was on the bridge of the Enterprise when the Klingons killed his son, David. Kirk stumbles and falls from the Captain's Chair. Eventually it picks up as you describe. If you're going to include one famous Kirk quote, you could at least include his quote as he kicks Christopher Lloyd's Kruge, "I'm getting. Sick. And tired. Of you!!" I get your point, but when you make a point in the Star Trek universe, expect vehement reprisals when you make sequencing or factual errors. :p

Timbo_mbadil Rivendell Oct 4, 8:13pm Views: 6430 Another clarification (sorry, ST + LOTR are massive obsessions of mine) 1979 was the first ST movie, STIII only came out in 84 (And the Klingon – played by Christopher Loyd – was called Kruge.) I really don't want to sound like the smart-are I am, but: Not every Cliffhanger-sequence (pun intended) in film-history is a reference to something, Sometimes, characters just hang to it by their fingernails :-) I’ve lost my mood ring, and I really don’t know how to feel about this. -- "Tracy" Jordan, some episode from "30Rock"

Meneldor Valinor Oct 4, 11:32pm Views: 6405 Only a fool fights in a burning house. They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters, these see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep. -Psalm 107