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2ndBreffest
Lorien


Jan 19 2020, 5:05pm

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which is exactly the reason why, if they are not working very closely with Tolkien experts who really understand his writing style on a scholarly level, are setting themselves up for disaster. On the other hand, if their intention is to only please PJ movie fans (which I suspect will likely be the case) , that burden is reduced to practically nil.


MoreMorgoth
Rivendell

Jan 19 2020, 5:25pm

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That is a great question about the ability of Malwe to portray someone who is seen as beautiful and later runs evil. I like your suggestion that makeup would take this far. Film history is loaded with actors who could play both the good guys and the bad guys.


Solicitr
Gondor


Jan 19 2020, 5:26pm

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the real deal:
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To my right worshipful husband, John Paston, dwelling in the Inner Temple at London, in haste

Right worshipful husband, I recommend me to you, desiring heartily to hear of your welfare, thanking God of your amending of the great disease that you have had; and I thank you for the letter that you sent me, for by my troth my mother and I were nowth in hearts' ease from the time that we wost of your sickness, till we wost verily of your amending


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My moder be hestyd a nodyr ymmage of wax of the weytte of yow to oyer Lady of Walsyngham, and sche sent iiij. nobelys to the iiij. Orderys of Frerys at Norweche to pray for yow, and I have be hestyd to gon on pylgreymmays to Walsingham, and to Sent Levenardys for yow; be my trowth I had never so hevy a sesyn as I had from the tyme that I woste of yowr sekenesse tyl I woste of yowr a mendyng, and zyth myn hert is in no grete esse, ne nowth xal be, tyl I wott that ze ben very hal.



squire
Half-elven


Jan 19 2020, 7:41pm

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Even so prosaic a letter as that is simply crawling with usages that Tolkien put into his writing of "watered archaism":
‘No,’ said Faramir. ‘But my heart would. For it seems less evil to counsel another man to break troth than to do so oneself, especially if one sees a friend bound unwitting to his own harm.' (LR IV.6)

“This is a bitter adventure, if it must end so; and not a mountain of gold can amend it." (Bilbo speaking, TH 18)

[Galadriel] stood before Frodo seeming now tall beyond measurement, and beautiful beyond enduring, terrible and worshipful. (LR II.7)

...the hobbits breathed deep, and suddenly Sam laughed, for heart’s ease not for jest. (LR IV.4)

"If I do not come, Elrond will advise you. Yours in haste GANDALF”.(LR I.10)
The trick is not to overdo it.



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2ndBreffest
Lorien


Jan 19 2020, 8:32pm

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yet, while I fear it may be too much to ask to expect this level of dialogue in the series, Amazon, if you are reading this, if nothing else, do try to avoid lines like "I could have anything down my trousers." and "...because it was real." Also, please try to aim higher than fart gags for comic relief. thank you.


Salmacis81
Tol Eressea

Feb 1 2020, 9:40pm

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...those known as Dunlendings were descendants of the Folk of Haleth. I can't directly recall any description, but I seem to remember them being called "sallow-skinned" at some point or another. "Sallow-skinned" generally means olive-toned, like southern or eastern European.

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