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Gaffer Gamgee
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Apr 28 2008, 6:48am
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Heed the words of the Gaffer. For even if they not be wise, they are worth listening to.
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Garfeimao
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Apr 28 2008, 7:45am
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And it ws ANZAC day Down Under
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I took the dates some where coming up with from the Riddle and then looked and saw it was ANZAC day on Friday in NZ`and that would be a very nice day for PJ to be part of the announcement.
beginning the tale of The Hobbit! And isn't it tomorrow in NZ? April 25th? HOW COOL! *twitch* Peace, Love and Rock & Roll, Garfeimao The orange stripey One Cruise to Middle earth
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grammaboodawg
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Apr 28 2008, 9:35am
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GdT was in NY and PJ was in LA, I think
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at least that's what I've gleaned from the various little news snippets I saw during the day(s) before and after that date. From what GdT said, it sounds like the announcement was supposed to be earlier, but was delayed by some last-minute details. If they pre-planned that date, that makes them ultra geeky and makes ME smile! :D
Trust him... The Hobbit is coming! "Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..." TORn's Observations Lists
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ohtar77
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Apr 30 2008, 4:14am
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G. del Toro should have done LOTR too.
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Hi fans and hopefully Guillermo. I haven't posted since the
XenArwen days when I rather gave up on my hope for Jackson's LOTR and I
hope others are as happy about Guillermo del Toro directing the Hobbit
as I am. We've seen already that GDT can use film to move and engage
us but I'm particularly excited about his ability to quietly and gently
astonish (see Pan's Labyrinth). Jackson's work (though obviously a
labor of love) relied too heavily on special effects and action to
entertain. Go back and read the scenes like the Temptation of
Galadriel or the Awakening of Theoden - or if you don't believe me read
Roger Ebert's FotR review. del Toro knows how to communicate subtext
through performance whereas Jackson seems to feel most comfortable
having his actors dictate subtext: "nothing ever dampens your spirits"
or "you have come for information" should be messages a film
communicates, not pieces of dialog. I also feel confident that del
Toro will try not to make a Hobbit that is as Hollywood Conscious as
Jackson's LOTR. Much was made of the independence Jackson showed in
filming everything in New Zealand but his LOTR is chock full of
Hollywood: one-liners, sudden awakening from dreams, and
improbable-but-cool action setpieces. I believe GDT has the
sensibility to appreciate some of the more quaint and curious moments
in Tolkien, moments that may not play well in studio boardrooms but
that fans are nevertheless hungry for - if not for Tolkien at least for
something that isn't a cliche. The magic of Tolkien is in discovery.
The Hobbits are the perfect guides because they are unaware of the
vastness of their world - and that world is revealed during a journey
of walking many hundreds of miles. If Tolkien wanted them to
understand their world before entering it he would have given them a
way, but he knew that the story would lose it's immediacy if the
audience knew ahead of time what Mordor, Edoras or Isengard were like
in detail. Jackson (or Raimi or any Hollywood director) are afraid to
give an audience anything they might not understand at the first pass -
del Toro realizes that you can respect your audience enough not to dumb
things down for them. Once, after reading an audience one of his
poems, Robert Frost was asked to explain it. He said: "You mean you
want me to say it again only not as well?" Here's hoping that Bilbo
will be more Ofelia in Pan's Labyrinth and less Anne Darrow in King
Kong.
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MrCere
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Apr 30 2008, 11:13pm
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"or if you don't believe me read Roger Ebert's FotR review"
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Really? Ebert's opinion holds little weight for me and yet you quote him as though his is The Final Word in film. I was more able to consider your words before getting to that part. He is the most famous film critic to be sure which gives him no extra credibility for me. Thanks for the post.
I have no choice but to believe in free will. The cake is a lie The cake is a lie The cake is a lie
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