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BotFA DVD Disc Quality?

Barrel Rider
Rivendell

Mar 26 2015, 12:21pm

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We received our copy of "The Battle of the Five Armies" yesterday and watched it for the first time last night. While the movie was fabulous (as always!!), the print of the disc is very disappointing. There is virtually nor red or blue in the picture. The blacks are too black and the scenes appear totally washed out. You couldn't even tell what color Bard and Bilbo's coats were. The grass in the Shire at the end was even yellowish. Kili and Tauriel's love scene at the beach was so faded that they looked actually white! The movie was beautiful every time that we saw it in the theater, but the disc is rather disappointing. Has anyone else noticed anything like this with their copy? We have the two-disc DVD edition.


Imladris18
Lorien


Mar 26 2015, 3:03pm

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Have you tried a different DVD in the same player? [In reply to] Can't Post

This sounds more like a player/connection issue than a disc issue.



QuackingTroll
Valinor


Mar 26 2015, 3:08pm

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Time to get a Blu-ray player // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Lindele
Gondor

Mar 26 2015, 5:49pm

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we're all thinkin it... [In reply to] Can't Post

if quality is an issue, the word DVD shouldn't even come up.


Kilidoescartwheels
Tol Eressea


Mar 26 2015, 6:41pm

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Did you get it from Target? [In reply to] Can't Post

That's where I got mine, I don't recall seeing any color problems, but then again I've only seen it once. I'll watch it again tonight & see if I notice anything - thanks for the excuse! "Yeah, honey, I'm uh, checking the quality - Thorin has nothing to do with it." I know, people burn in Hell for lyingAngelic

Why yes, I DO look like Anna Friel!


arithmancer
Grey Havens


Mar 26 2015, 7:53pm

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Nonsense! [In reply to] Can't Post

Someone who has watched DVDs for the last several years because they own a DVD player (presumably, the situation of the OP), will not be complaining that a new DVD looks badly, if it just looks like a DVD. My beloved LotR EE DVDs look more than pretty enough for my satisfaction when I view them. Just as they always have.

Ever watch a movie on a black and white TV on a channel that has mediocre reception in your area? Now *that's* poor quality. Laugh

As someone planning to buy the DVD this weekend, I would like to hear from anyone else who already has one, whether it does or does not, have special quality issues that are discernible to my fellow DVD users. I'd consider not buying it for this reason...



AshNazg
Gondor


Mar 26 2015, 8:23pm

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DVDs are getting serious cuts this year... [In reply to] Can't Post

DVDs came out in 1995. Marking the 20 year anniversary, UHD (4K) Blu-rays will be released later this year in an attempt to compete with digital streaming and downloads. Because of this, less money is going into DVDs, and this means a drop in quality and content for the format and there will be no more special/limited/collector's edition DVDs.

So there's a very real and unfortunate possibility that the EE will not be released on DVD at all - as is being discussed in a few home cinema forums. If it is released it'll likely be the last special edition DVD to be produced - the format doesn't have much time left, and distributors don't want to waste money on a format that will be obsolete in 5 years.

Just a heads-up Smile


shadowdog
Rohan

Mar 26 2015, 8:49pm

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I bought the blu ray which also had the DVD version [In reply to] Can't Post

Just skimmed through the DVD version and didn't notice the problems you described. It is possible you received a bad DVD. I would suggest you return it and get another DVD.


Barrel Rider
Rivendell

Mar 26 2015, 9:03pm

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Thanks for the Heads-Up! [In reply to] Can't Post

Hi! I really appreciate all of the responses on this. Yes, we have been watching DVDs for twelve years. In fact, we own hundreds of them and have a very nice screen, surround sound and the works. Reading through what everyone is saying, we are considering getting a BluRay setup and all the LotR and Hobbit films for Christmas. It seems like it would be worth doing that before spending the money for the Hobbit EEs on DVD.

However, we were only comparing the BotFA DVD to matching theatrical-cut DVDs of UA and DoS. We have decided to return it for a replacement disc (bought it on Amazon as a preorder), so I will be sure to post when that one comes (which should be next week!). I'll let you know if there is any difference with the replacement disc. Oh, and another thing that we noticed on this disc: the base is very loud, so don't be afraid to adjust your sub volume. It really muddied the sound on this third film when we tried it at the same setting we use for the other two. That could just be our sound system, though.

Thank you SO much for the heads-up about Blu-Ray and DVD. You've really made our minds up now, as we are really waiting for the BotFA EE. We've been going back and forth about a BluRay player for a few years, and this really clinches it!

Thanks again for all of the responses. I'll be sure to follow up about the replacement.
Sarah


Barrow-Wight
Rohan


Mar 26 2015, 9:15pm

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my Goodness [In reply to] Can't Post


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Kili and Tauriel's love scene at the beach


Ew don't word it like that lol but on topic I got the DVD version and it's all fine


Starling
Half-elven


Mar 27 2015, 7:56am

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That love scene at the beach [In reply to] Can't Post

is a classic.



Barrel Rider
Rivendell

Mar 27 2015, 12:35pm

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Don't get gross. [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm sorry, guys. I didn't mean it like that, and there is NO reason to turn this thread into something gross. A "love scene" is a term that has been used in movie making forever when referring to any scene made to progress the romantic element in the film. It is not meant for an explicit scene. Get out of the gutter and take it somewhere else. We're discussing the quality of the discs in this thread.


(This post was edited by Barrel Rider on Mar 27 2015, 12:39pm)


Barrel Rider
Rivendell

Mar 27 2015, 12:57pm

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DVD Quality and Switching to BluRay [In reply to] Can't Post

My sister and I watched the DVD again, and even on a second viewing it wasn't better. We are getting a replacement, so maybe that will fix it. In the light of the info posted here, though, we've decided to look into finding a BluRay player and purchasing all of the Hobbit EEs on BluRay.

My sister came up with one more thought, and I wondered if anyone had noticed this. Just a couple of weeks ago, we got the UA EE on DVD from the library. We were absolutely AMAZED at the colors and brilliance in the the picture, even though our theatrical DVD was fine. The quality on the EE was certainly way better. At the time, we had just replaced our upconvert player, so we thought that the change was due to our new player. Now we are thinking that it was more likely due to the fact that the film was divided onto two discs and not as compressed. Has anyone noticed a difference from theatrical to EE?


dormouse
Half-elven


Mar 27 2015, 2:32pm

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UA? Sorry, bit confused here.... [In reply to] Can't Post

...are you asking about changes in picture quality from the theatrical version of An Unexpected Journey to the EE version? If so, then my answer's no. I have the DVDs of both versions, theatrical and extended, and the picture quality, intensity of colour and so on looks the same for both.


Barrel Rider
Rivendell

Mar 27 2015, 2:42pm

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Yes, you got it right! [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes, that is exactly what I was mentioning. Sorry to be a bit confusing. Thanks for your response. It may just be what we noticed. Our theatrical version looks great, but there was definitely better color on the extended edition. My sister and Mom and Dad and I are all in graphic art/printing/web design, etc., so we're all pretty picky when it comes to color. So far, though, the only disc we've had that was poor is this brand new one. Let's hope the replacement is better, and we're looking forward to the BluRay.


dormouse
Half-elven


Mar 27 2015, 2:56pm

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Well, I notice colour too.... [In reply to] Can't Post

... most of the time I'm a writer but I also paint miniatures and do various other sorts of design/ artwork. If there were any problem with the visual quality, colouring of the DVDs or significant change between the two I'd notice. Of course I can only see them one at a time (!) but they all look fine.


Barrel Rider
Rivendell

Mar 27 2015, 3:07pm

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Thanks! [In reply to] Can't Post

Oh, thanks! I appreciate input from someone who admits that they are nuts about color, too. :) Have you ever seen the BluRay versions to see the difference? We never have, but everyone says that the BluRay is so much richer.


Magpie
Immortal


Mar 27 2015, 4:02pm

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I think there are many variables at work, though [In reply to] Can't Post

...more than just dvd vs bluray.

The FOTR EE Blurays had that green tint that was clearly some sort of transfer problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwcm-73kZE8

And although this isn't a Bluray release, the issues that surfaced with a recent conversion of Buffy the VS to HD could easily have been present in a Bluray issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F28XcxHxH6k

So buying Bluray isn't an automatic upgrade. It's still a product that can be messed up along the line. So I think it's somewhat of a case by case basis.


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Barrel Rider
Rivendell

Mar 27 2015, 4:17pm

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Good point and well made! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for all of that! Good point about the transfer to BluRay still being a variable. All in all, do you think that upgrading the six Middle Earth films to BluRay is a good move?


Darkstone
Immortal


Mar 27 2015, 4:31pm

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Bad pressing and/or inferior materials [In reply to] Can't Post

The problem is that large runs of dvds are made by "replication". The orginal master is used to make a "glass master”. Laser lithography and electroforming are then used to produce a number of microreliefs. These "stampers" are used as injection molds, turning thermoplastic material into a micro-thin foil, which is then sandwiched between layers of poly-carbonate plastic. The disc is then lacquered, screened (labeled), packaged, and then you buy it. Because most of this process is automated, the cost per unit is very cheap and so this is how practically all cds, dvds, and Blu-rays are made.

For smaller runs of, say, 1000 units or less, "duplication" is used, where the master recording is used to make a digital recording onto a blank. This is how most people believe digital recordings are made. They are wrong.

Obviously the many steps of "replication" provide many opportunities for mistakes to creep in, quality to degrade, etc., etc. I won't even mention where one or more of the sub-contractors sharing the job of mass producing an initial release of a movie may skimp on the quality of materials or equipment. It also explains why in a initial release of dvds some may be flawed while others aren't.

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No Orc, No Orc!!
It's a wonderful town!!!
Mount Doom blew up,
And the Black Tower's down!!
The orcs all fell in a hole in the ground!
No Orc, No Orc!!
It's a heckuva town!!!

-Lord of the Rings: The Musical, music by Leonard Bernstein, lyrics by Betty Comden and Adolph Green

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Magpie
Immortal


Mar 27 2015, 4:34pm

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I can't advise [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't own a Bluray player and I can't hook a Bluray player up to our old tv because all the available ports are being used. And I'm not upgrading my entire entertainment system just to get a format that will likely be out of date in another 5 years. When this TV goes kaput, then we'll look at some options.

edit to add: Don't forget the color tint problems on the FOTR EE Bluray. Do you want to watch something that is worse than your DVDs if you have them?


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Barrel Rider
Rivendell

Mar 27 2015, 4:43pm

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DVD Production, BluRay and FotR EE [In reply to] Can't Post

Wow! I didn't know all of that about how the discs are actually made. Fascinating. That does seem that there is a lot of room for loss of quality in the process, even if the original is perfect. It would also make sense to have some "lemon" discs in major runs like that.

I have been reading a lot of reviews for the various LotR BluRays. Is the green tint on FotR still a problem, does anyone know? So far, I am only seeing that people think the BluRay EE Trilogy package is miles better in video and sound than the DVDs, but you are totally right about sacrificing quality for the sake of BluRay. I wouldn't want to do that. I did see that some of the original BluRay LotR discs came out with a color problem (mostly too black), but that seems to have been fixed in subsequent pressings.


AshNazg
Gondor


Mar 27 2015, 6:27pm

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I'd say it's worth the upgrade, but... [In reply to] Can't Post

Remember that UHD is around the corner and will require another upgrade. Here's two points I'd like to make.

1. Blu-ray quality is certainly worth it

FotR has this slight green tint, it's a result of transferring from the original un-coloured master. Digital colouring was in its infancy when FotR came out and the original coloured masters are lost. So the whole film needed to be re-colour graded with a new timing that (although slightly green for some reason) has been approved by Peter Jackson and unless comparing side-by-side you really won't notice it at all - in many places it's actually a big improvement.

Other than this one controversial aspect the overall quality and detail of LotR on Blu-ray is phenomenal and if, like me, you've watched LotR on DVD multiple times then you'll immediately notice a huge difference. It's honestly like rediscovering the films, they feel fresh and new. They look and sound so much better.

2. UHD/4K is coming
It's said that DVD has about 5 years of life left before they're obsolete. That's a fairly long time, really. And it's likely that when this happens the price of 4K TVs and 4K Blu-ray players will have dropped significantly. If you currently have a big DVD collection and no Blu-rays you might want to stick to DVDs for five years and then make the upgrade straight to 4K - skipping Blu-ray entirely. It'd be a much more dramatic upgrade to a more long-term format.


Barrel Rider
Rivendell

Mar 27 2015, 6:33pm

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BluRay vs. 4K BluRay [In reply to] Can't Post

Hi, again! I really appreciate all of your info. You certainly sound like you're on top of all this!

This is the first that I've ever heard about 4k BluRay. What is it, exactly? Will it not be discs at all? Is it all done through streaming and download?

We have a large DVD collection (hundreds), and we pretty much only watch old films, being from the early 1950s or before. We have a few modern movies that we watch, but it is LotR and the Hobbit that really take the cake. They are the reason that we bought a DVD player in the first place. They are also the reason that we bought a Plasma screen and surround sound system. :) We don't use any hand-held devices and don't watch films on the computer. To top it off, we don't have television, either. Just discs. Given this background, how does UHD/4K fit with all of that?

Thanks again for the info! I SO appreciate all of this, as it's totally new to me!
Sarah


Starling
Half-elven


Mar 27 2015, 6:36pm

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They were really into gross and explicit scenes in 1953 [In reply to] Can't Post

But in the interests of accuracy, that classic scene in From Here to Eternity is not in the gutter, it's on the beach.


Brethil
Half-elven


Mar 27 2015, 6:50pm

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And compared to modern cinema, 'From Here to Eternity' is positively prudish. // [In reply to] Can't Post


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But in the interests of accuracy, that classic scene in From Here to Eternity is not in the gutter, it's on the beach.









Darkstone
Immortal


Mar 27 2015, 6:56pm

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Let's not mention the final scene in North By Northwest (1959) / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

******************************************
No Orc, No Orc!!
It's a wonderful town!!!
Mount Doom blew up,
And the Black Tower's down!!
The orcs all fell in a hole in the ground!
No Orc, No Orc!!
It's a heckuva town!!!

-Lord of the Rings: The Musical, music by Leonard Bernstein, lyrics by Betty Comden and Adolph Green


Brethil
Half-elven


Mar 27 2015, 7:01pm

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Hah! Like Alfrid, Mr. H. showing a bit of (Freudian) slip there. // [In reply to] Can't Post

Let's not mention the final scene in North By Northwest (1959)








Darkstone
Immortal


Mar 27 2015, 7:15pm

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And it was only after a certain age... [In reply to] Can't Post

....that I realized why Leonard was so jealous of Eve Kendall's relationship with Vandamm.

Lots of hidden subtexts in those old movies!

******************************************
No Orc, No Orc!!
It's a wonderful town!!!
Mount Doom blew up,
And the Black Tower's down!!
The orcs all fell in a hole in the ground!
No Orc, No Orc!!
It's a heckuva town!!!

-Lord of the Rings: The Musical, music by Leonard Bernstein, lyrics by Betty Comden and Adolph Green


Brethil
Half-elven


Mar 27 2015, 7:37pm

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'A Certain Age' ... such delicious Victorian flavor to that. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 








Bofur01
Lorien


Mar 27 2015, 9:30pm

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The Hobbit was mastered in 2k... [In reply to] Can't Post

So 4k disks would make little to no difference.


Barrel Rider
Rivendell

Mar 27 2015, 9:33pm

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4K BluRay is a Disc? [In reply to] Can't Post

So, 4K BluRay will just be higher resolution discs? Would you think that it is advisable to purchase LotR and The Hobbit on BluRay now?


Bofur01
Lorien


Mar 27 2015, 9:52pm

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I would say yes... [In reply to] Can't Post

As they can't make 4k copies of The Hobbit and LotR without redoing all the VFX, which is vey unlikely.


Barrel Rider
Rivendell

Mar 27 2015, 9:55pm

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Thank you SO much! [In reply to] Can't Post

I really appreciate your opinion. It would not be worth buying something if in a year or two, they are re-released in a format better suited to the original film. If it will just be another case of upconverting to a new format, then I don't think we'll ever get away from that. The home video market will never stay long with one format, I think.

What was your opinion of the LotR extended editions on BluRay, as opposed to the original DVDs?


Barrow-Wight
Rohan


Mar 27 2015, 10:50pm

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sorry [In reply to] Can't Post

yea that was my bad sorry about that lol


Bofur01
Lorien


Mar 28 2015, 12:38am

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I'll admit I don't have either of them on Blu Ray... [In reply to] Can't Post

..But we're looking to buy a blu ray player soon, so I've done a bit of research. The LotR films were, I think, rescanned from the original film cinema reels, so should have been fine on BluRay. The green tint, at least on the iTunes version, I can see, but only slightly more than I can see it in the Hobbit films (especially AUJ).


AshNazg
Gondor


Mar 28 2015, 2:56am

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I can't really say if you should get Blu-ray or wait... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd probably say go for the Blu-ray for now. They look and sound amazing.

But yes, 4K Blu-ray (officially called 'UHD Blu-ray') are discs that will be released this November - possibly earlier. Not much is known about them at this point. They will require brand new disc players - no-one knows whether these players will play DVDs, but they'll probably play standard Blu-rays - and they will only work on 4K TVs. So it's all a very expensive upgrade and will take a few years to become affordable.

You then have to consider when will The Hobbit and LotR be released on this format? Although I'd imagine they're probably high priority early releases, due to their popularity, they may take some time to remaster the films and get the best out of them. Another factor is the possibility that The Hobbit will be in 48fps/HFR on UHD Blu-ray. Anything's possible at the moment, we'll have to wait and see.

As Bofur said, The Hobbit & LotR, as well as almost any movie ever made, are finished in 2K (which is just a tiny bit above Blu-ray and way below 4K). But this doesn't mean an upscale isn't possible and it also doesn't mean there won't be a big difference. In cinemas The Hobbit was up-scaled to much more than 4K in order to fit IMAX screens, so likely the IMAX master will be scanned for the UHD disc, no re-rendering necessary - and although all the enhancements are done digitally they do improve the overall look of the image (as you will have noticed if you've been to an IMAX). On top of the added resolution UHD Blu-rays will also have more colours and Dolby Atmos surround sound. So overall, it's a better experience. But a hugely expensive one and will likely remain so for a long time.

So I suppose you just have to ask are you happy with the DVDs for a few years until your TV breaks and you can upgrade to 4K, or do you want to see these films in better quality as soon as possible? An upgrade to Blu-ray isn't all that expensive (providing you already own a HD TV), but it does mean you'll end up re-purchasing your favourite films to see them in HD. However, the experience is certainly worth the expense.

With Blu-ray you'll be getting very close to pixel-for-pixel exactly as the director intended you to see it. With UHD you'll be going above and beyond that by enhancing the original image.


(This post was edited by AshNazg on Mar 28 2015, 3:00am)


Barrel Rider
Rivendell

Mar 28 2015, 12:33pm

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BluRay Sounds Like a Good Option . . . Player Suggestions? [In reply to] Can't Post

Hi, AshNazg and Bofur01!

I really appreciate all of your fabulous info and help. This is making me feel much better. My Mom and I have been trying to go through online sites and reviews to figure the BluRay thing out, and it can get so confusing. We do have a television that can play BluRay. 4K doesn't sound like something we would go to in the near future, since we are really happy with our television and hoping not to replace it for a long while yet. Also, we really only watch LotR and The Hobbit as far as High-Def films, so it seems like BluRay would be satisfactory, since it will show the films as they were filmed.

All that said, I'd like to ask for a little more advice. :) We have been thinking to buy a player and the BluRay discs for a family Christmas Present, but we'd be just as happy to buy them sooner! Do any of you have suggestions as far as a BluRay player? Looking online, it is pretty impossible to find one that gets good reviews. We can't afford an Oppo, which sounds like the best. Mom read a year or two ago that PS3 was a good player. Is that something worth looking for? We're not in a terrible rush to get the player, so we can afford to look around and price shop, but we don't know what to look at. We would like to keep it under $250.00. Any suggestions would be great! Thanks!


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Mar 28 2015, 2:24pm

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I just watched my Amazon dvd copy [In reply to] Can't Post

I FINALLY got it in the mail Friday and watched it almost immediately... hand's shaking!

The clarity and colouring of the image were spot-on great and the sound was fantastic! I saw this at the theatre more than a few times *kaff*, and I found this copy from Amazon to be perfect.

You have gotten (as others have said) a bad copy. If you take it back to the store, they should let you make an even exchange with no issues. Most stores will frown upon a refund for an open movie... so go prepared to exchange and hope for the best.

It's too bad that after all this waiting you have to BATTLE with the Five Armies DVD!

Hang in there!



Hobbit: BotFA Geeky Observation List draft #5 1/30/15


6th draft of TH:AUJ Geeky Observations List - November 28, 2013
4th draft of TH:DOS Geeky Observations List - May 15, 2014



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"There is more in you of good than you know, child of the kindly West."

I'm SO HAPPY these new films take me back to that magical world!!



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TORn's Geeky Observations Lists for LotR and The Hobbit


Bombadil
Half-elven


Mar 28 2015, 2:37pm

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Bomby Has a simple DVD external Player [In reply to] Can't Post

One that came with a Pouch
so a little kid could
hang it on the back of a Car seat.

That way, can be watching it, and surfing the Internet
@ the same time.

Well, watched Bo5A as it was packaged, the first time.
BUT then under "Settings"
BOOSTED the Hue & Saturation...AND BOY did it
BRIGHTEN UP the picture!

Bom likes even better that way.
Try it, you might like it , TOO.

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Barrel Rider
Rivendell

Mar 28 2015, 2:48pm

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Replacement DVD is Already on the Way! :) [In reply to] Can't Post

Hi! Thanks for the feedback. We bought the disc on Amazon, so reporting it as defective was no problem. A replacement is already on the way, and I'll be sure to post if we notice a difference. Thanks!


Barrel Rider
Rivendell

Mar 28 2015, 3:25pm

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Started a New Thread for Recommendations for a BluRay Player [In reply to] Can't Post

Hi! I just wanted to say that I've started a new thread asking for recommendations for a BluRay player. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd appreciate responses over here: http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?post=846437;#846437

Thanks very much!
Sarah


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Mar 28 2015, 3:29pm

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ooooo! I will!! :D THANKS! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



Hobbit: BotFA Geeky Observation List draft #5 1/30/15


6th draft of TH:AUJ Geeky Observations List - November 28, 2013
4th draft of TH:DOS Geeky Observations List - May 15, 2014



sample

"There is more in you of good than you know, child of the kindly West."

I'm SO HAPPY these new films take me back to that magical world!!



TIME Google Calendar
TORn's Geeky Observations Lists for LotR and The Hobbit


AshNazg
Gondor


Mar 28 2015, 5:59pm

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Don't assume more expensive is better. [In reply to] Can't Post

If all you want is a simple *put the disc in, watch the film* with no complications then a cheap player will do that fine. A more expensive player might upscale DVDs better and home theaters will give you surround sound, which can be great if you have the room for it and the spare time to set it up. Players do sometimes require software updates, which means connecting it to the internet every so-often. So expensive sets sometimes have wifi built in, which can be useful.

One suggestion is looking for players that are made by the same manufacturer as your TV. Some manufacturers, such as Panasonic, have links that allow you to control the player and TV with the same remote, which makes life much easier.

PS3 is a no-brainer if there are video gamers in your house. PS4 and Xbox One also play Blu-rays, but are obviously more expensive. For the price these the best players you can get, when considering all the neat things they can do.

If you have no interest in video games, PS3 is still a great player (and worth looking into) but for the price you could probably get something just as good, possibly with surround sound or something.

It's really up to you, it's difficult to make a bad decision here - because they're all really similar. Just make sure you don't get one that's going to break in a month and you should be fine.


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Rivendell

Mar 28 2015, 6:09pm

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We do have surround sound, and our TV is Panasonic . . . [In reply to] Can't Post

Hi! Thanks to everybody who is responding to this. We do have surround sound (with Optical cable hook-up), and our television is Panasonic. We don't play video games, so if that is the real bonus to the PS3, then I don't think that is for us. We also don't have WIFI, so it wouldn't matter on that issue.

Thanks for the tip about matching the player to the type of television. That's a good point! We're going through some reviews on CNET at the moment, so I appreciate all the info coming in. :)

Regards,
Sarah


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Lorien


Mar 30 2015, 1:07am

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We got ours from Amazon here as well [In reply to] Can't Post

The movie was great, but it might just be that I'm watching it on a laptop that the color seems a bit off, but not noticeable. The only thing that was noticeable is when you turn on the movie, the preview playing as you go through the menu is extremely dark. Especially in shots like Gundabad and Bilbo looking at Thorin, it looked like some sort of layer was put over the video.

"As the snowflakes cover my fallen brothers,
I will say this last goodbye."


priell3
Lorien


Mar 31 2015, 5:16pm

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My DVD is from Amazon... [In reply to] Can't Post

...no problem to report.

I have a Blu-ray player, I just didn't want to lay out the extra money for that version.

MikeP


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Rivendell

Apr 14 2015, 4:06pm

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Blu-Ray Disc and Player Arrived. Wow! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thank you SO much to everybody who posted in response to this thread. We bought a Blu-Ray player on Amazon (Panasonic DMP-BDT230), and it arrived, along with the Blu-Ray disc of "Five Armies", last week. My sister got the player all hooked up, and we watched all three Hobbit films over the weekend on Blu-Ray. It was SO wonderful! The colors were so vivid, the movement was so fluid, and the detail was amazing. I really recommend the Blu-Ray to anyone thinking of changing. If you want to see every little costume detail, etc., then this is just what you need.

As far as "The Battle of the Five Armies", in particular, we returned our original DVD and got the Blu-Ray pack. The Blu-Ray looks as fabulous as the movie did at the theater. You can see everything. As a test, we put the DVD that came with the Blu-Ray into our DVD player and tried it. Of course, it wasn't the Blu-Ray, but this second DVD was better than the first one that we had. It did not have the lack of color and over-saturated black areas. That must have been a bad disc.

We were really pleased that the Blu-Ray disc handled the "panning" shots so smoothly. It doesn't give you the same "dizzy" feelings like the DVD. Also, the digital effects look so much more realistic on the Blu-Ray. I had expected Azog and Smaug to look more "digital" in the higher resolution. They looked less digital!

Thanks to everyone who answered this post! My whole family is just thrilled with the Blu-Ray! We've ordered the LotR EE Blu-Ray discs, so we're looking forward to their arrival!
Sarah

 
 

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