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mirkwoodwanderer
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Jan 13 2015, 12:49am
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Is it the serpenst of the North.. or is it a tatoo on the face of Thadruil...
We see it close up on the left side of his face when he has said to his son his mother loved him... I keep thinking it is the left over that shows again.
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MistyMountain
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Jan 13 2015, 1:32am
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believe it is a streak of black orc blood on his pretty face.
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Jan 13 2015, 2:12am
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4th in 3d 48 fps 'probably' be my last
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As the first time i saw it, was in 3d 48 FPS, and with everything being new along with that experience, it's harder to absorb it as a whole film and is more a 'ride' experience. But then seeing it in 2D twice subsequently, have now got a good feel for the experience of it as film story watcher, so should be interesting combining that with the 3d 48 fps again.
But the thing is, getting to watch the extended editions and then going to see the film at the cinema straight after, it's pretty awesome...... I like the film experience as much as for getting to watch the EE's back to back which i find fantastic, and then being all primed for the cinema event.
I've watched the EEs back to back four times (a couple with friends), with BoTFAs 3 times straight after (usually with friends) & it's just a high water mark fantasy film fandom period to make the most of to me , one for the memories.
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Eruonen
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Jan 13 2015, 2:37am
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Re maps, it depends on the version. If you have the annotated Hobbit you will see
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two maps and yes, East is the "M" mark but on pg 51 it is oriented differently with north at the top. On that map, Ravenhill is West of Dale.
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Eruonen
Gondolin
Jan 13 2015, 3:04am
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To me, that statement simply seems to betray a lack of understanding about
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what many fans feel about this world. Maybe he is too close to it. Yes, I know people who are one and done type people, but if I enjoy something, I watch as often as I like. Do you watch Christmas classics once? Or your favorite western, Star Wars, Harry Potter, Pirates, etc. etc.?
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grammaboodawg
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Jan 13 2015, 3:19am
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It's compulsive! Must have the precious!
Also, I think some films are meant to be experienced at the theatre. The sound, the magnitude, the dark, being totally emersed. At home, people start talking, the dog needs to go out, or that freakin' phone rings. I love the escapism, and Jackson's Middle-earth is total escape. I even drive an Escape ;) ... in the Ford... with Hobbity on the license plate ;)
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I'm SO HAPPY these new films take me back to that magical world!!
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Starling
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Jan 13 2015, 4:47am
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I spotted a parsnip last time I went - it was floating near the yellow pepper and potato when the Laketowners were staggering ashore.
And I don't know for sure, but I could have sworn I saw an old-school NZ 20c piece amongst the coins that spilled from the urn just before Alfrid made his getaway.
Enjoy viewing #22. 
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Spriggan
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Jan 13 2015, 11:58am
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Not the map you showed though surely?
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Perhaps I'm being confused but there isn't a map that shows Ravenhill south of Dale is there?
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Otaku-sempai
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Jan 13 2015, 2:40pm
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Perhaps I'm being confused but there isn't a map that shows Ravenhill south of Dale is there?
The map of Erebor in Karen Wynn Fonstad's The Atlas of Middle-earth shows the guardroom at Ravenhill as being about 3 miles south and west of the ruins of Dale, near the end of the south-west spur of the Mountain. I have seen other maps that make the spur a bit shorter or show Dale as being slighty farther from the Mountain.
The Wood-elf map of Erebor found at the beginning of the TH:BofFA Visual Companion shows the ridge in the same position, but locates Ravenhill on a stand-alone promitory just north (and slightly west) of Dale. This is at odds with Thror's Map in AUJ which depicts Ravenhill as Tolkien describes it.
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Eruonen
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Jan 13 2015, 3:20pm
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Yes, the map of Thror in the movie did show E for N and Dale would be
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N of , but there are some inconsistencies with JRRTs sketches, see this:
http://tolkiengateway.net/...en_-_Thrór's_Map.jpg
East is east ....it corresponds to regular compass points and Ravenhill is due west and slightly south of Dale.
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Eruvandi
Dor-Lomin
Jan 13 2015, 3:32pm
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Twice for me and no more theater viewings planned
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Not that I don't want to see it again, I just don't have the time or money to see it again. The fact that I was able to see BotFA twice is actually a miracle in itself because other than DOS, I've never seen any movie twice in theaters, even if I loved them to bits. Movie tickets are just too pricey.
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And these Halleluiahs be multiplied"
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ghost_matt
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Jan 13 2015, 4:41pm
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He said in an interview he thinks its mad when people say they've seen RotK over 20 times. But I wonder how many times he's seen King Kong. I imagine a lot.
Uhh, I've seen each of the movies about 100 times.
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ghost_matt
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Jan 13 2015, 4:47pm
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BOFA only twice for me as well
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I saw all three LOTR movies 5-6 times in the theater each, but all the Hobbit movies only twice each. I love them just as much, but I didn't have bills or kids when LOTR came out. Also, it was like 8 or 9 months before each LOTR movie came out on dvd. The wait was excruciating. With the Hobbits, they're out after only 3 months. I blame that decision, and my local theater's decision to pull the 3D after only two weeks. They didn't even offer it in HDR this year.
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Spriggan
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Jan 13 2015, 6:27pm
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Not the map they chose to use.
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So am I right in thinking that the film map and positioning of Ravenhill tie in with Gandalf's answer that it is North (albeit North West - but the army was unlikely to come straight over the peak) ?
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Spriggan
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Jan 13 2015, 7:32pm
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Back to where I started but with some confirmation (which is always good!)
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Elessar
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Jan 14 2015, 5:33pm
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This is the stuff I miss when I'm gone
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Last I checked you had faily enjoyed your second viewing. What happened?
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Elessar
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Jan 14 2015, 5:38pm
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I have to figure out when to get a fourth in before it leaves the theater.
I'm disappointed catching up some people who I think highly of didn't care for it. That really sucks and takes some fun out discussing it with them. For me I quite enjoyed it and like it the second best of this Trilogy. AUJ is still the best. I admit I don't love these quite like I love LOTR but then again I don't love The Hobbit book as much as I love the LOTR books.
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DanielLB
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Jan 14 2015, 5:52pm
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It is the best and worst movie of the hexology.
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The negatives just outweigh the positives for me. If you cut out Legolas, Alfrid, the kamikaze trolls and the Ogre's which just walked out of Hogwarts, you'd have a very impressive piece of work. But it's like eating a salad when I could have a McDonald's. It doesn't satisfy me enough. It's not finished.
Good to see you back, Elessar. 
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Elessar
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Jan 14 2015, 6:00pm
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That stinks. I do wish it was the other way around. Maybe the EE will change that for ya. See I do like Legolas quite a bit and the Trolls/Ogre's as well. I could have done with a little less Alfrid.
Thank ya sir. :)
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