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Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part XIX
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phij2
Spider-person


Oct 20 2014, 4:20pm

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     oooooh pretty rings... [In reply to]  

they just look so elven, i don't know how they manage it!

And, i am normally not that keen on guys wearing loads of rings, but as per usual, Lee Pace just carries off like he was born to itLaugh


stn5
Mutant

Oct 20 2014, 4:28pm

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     Update: No new Thranduil scene in DOS EEÖ. [In reply to]  

Update:
No new Thranduil scene in DOS EE... CrazyCrazyCrazyMadMadMad

Canít believe it. O.O Please, say its just a bad joke. Could somebody please say its just a bad joke? I swear it, I will not buy the movie, if thatís really true.

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3. I haven't seen more Thranduil sadly. But I have skimmed through so I could have missed it but I doubt it. I skimmed quite delicately!

7. The white stag scene is brief yet great. It's brief though and I don't really get the hype about it. There's only the Thranduil musical theme that gives it any depth otherwise a general viewer would dismiss it as just another weird hallucination. Not exactly memorable in terms of the whole movie but its well done and excellently shot and rendered.


mariel
Fantastic Four

Oct 20 2014, 4:34pm

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     Sad [In reply to]  

It looks like Annatar598 has seen the EE and says there is no new Thranduil at all MadUnimpressed


Eruvandi
Justice League


Oct 20 2014, 4:39pm

Post #29 of 216 (1004 views)
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     Wheeee! [In reply to]  

Yay for lots and lots of Thrandy extras!!!Laugh



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*snert* I'm sorry, but this pic is begging for a caption:

Andy: "That's it, mister. If you can't play nice with the staff then it's going to be taken away!"
LP: "No! You can't take my staff! It's mine! Mine I tell you!"

Laugh

"Home is behind the world ahead
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadow to the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight.

Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall fade"



VValar
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oct 20 2014, 4:40pm

Post #30 of 216 (1004 views)
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     Nice opening Lurker [In reply to]  

And you're right, we're at number 19 already!

To celebrate this moment fellow Thralls, for your consideration Heart




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VValar
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oct 20 2014, 4:49pm

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     That sucks major time [In reply to]  

If it's true what Annatar598 says in this topic and there's no new Thranduil scenes in DOS EE Mad It would be a travesty! MadMadMad

Let's pray and hope they are mistaken and we'll get to see a new glimpse of Thranduil in the EE..... *crosses fingers*

This makes me wonder if we'll see some new scenes of Leggy or if we're deprived of those as well?

If your ears aren't pointy, you're doing it wrong.


Eruvandi
Justice League


Oct 20 2014, 4:50pm

Post #32 of 216 (1010 views)
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     Oh well. [In reply to]  


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Update:
No new Thranduil scene in DOS EE... CrazyCrazyCrazyMadMadMad

It's disappointing, sure, but not surprising. Comparing book to movie, his number of scenes were already about par for the course, IMO. I'm not sure what else they could have added (not counting the one dwarf scene). Also, there's still that least one little green-screen clip we had seen of Thranduil and Leggy talking in elvish that IMO looked brief enough that Annatar could have missed it by skimming.

Re the white stag scene: Even thought it doesn't sound long, it does sound like Annatar still thought it was well done, so that's good. I'll still be buying the EE despite lack of Thrandy.Unsure

"Home is behind the world ahead
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadow to the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight.

Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall fade"



VValar
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oct 20 2014, 4:52pm

Post #33 of 216 (985 views)
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     LOL [In reply to]  

I was in a bit of a foul mood when I heard the news of no new Thranduil scenes, and then I read your caption. It made me smile again, thanks Sly Priceless how Thrandy is clutching at his staff, it really does appear as if he's unwilling to depart from it.

If your ears aren't pointy, you're doing it wrong.


VValar
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oct 20 2014, 4:58pm

Post #34 of 216 (1004 views)
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     Good catch [In reply to]  


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It's disappointing, sure, but not surprising. Comparing book to movie, his number of scenes were already about par for the course, IMO. I'm not sure what else they could have added (not counting the one dwarf scene). Also, there's still that least one little green-screen clip we had seen of Thranduil and Leggy talking in elvish that IMO looked brief enough that Annatar could have missed it by skimming.


Yeah hopefully she has missed that scene. I would really like to see a little more Thranduil-Legolas interaction and I was kinda expecting to at least see that scene in the EE.


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Re the white stag scene: Even thought it doesn't sound long, it does sound like Annatar still thought it was well done, so that's good. I'll still be buying the EE despite lack of Thrandy.Unsure


Me too, I'm still buying it to complete my LotR/HB collection but I will be quite disappointed without mwoaaar Thranduil.

If your ears aren't pointy, you're doing it wrong.


mariel
Fantastic Four

Oct 20 2014, 5:32pm

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     Agreed [In reply to]  

I'm still buying it despite the disappointment.
Eruvandi is right about the number of scenes compared to the book being about right. It's knowing certain scenes were filmed that were raising our hopes. Just hope we see them all in the extras, albeit with green screen backgrounds - and then look forward to BotFA

Plus - there are some new pics at last


(This post was edited by mariel on Oct 20 2014, 5:35pm)


Eruvandi
Justice League


Oct 20 2014, 5:34pm

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     Additional book spoilers [In reply to]  

Re the discussion on the symbolism of the white stag

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[book spoiler] this symbolism is entirely a movie-specific device. There's a normal coloured stag that the whole company tried to bring down in the book but only managed to injure, and this is after the white hind that they really didn't hit, but there's no mention of symbolism or manifestation. Though given the sources the writers and LP seemed to have drawn on in creating movie!Thranduil, it makes sense and is super exciting, especially if Thranduil speaks in this scene *I hope!!!*

Lurker and mariel are absolutely right about the stag in the movie being a projection or "avatar" of Thranduil and that the book stag (referred to there as a "hart") wasn't white and didn't have such symbolism attached to it. Also, Thorin was successfully able to shoot that stag and it died. I just thought I'd add that there was, however, a white mama deer and fawns that appeared directly after the dwarves pulled a sleeping Bombur out of the river and could hear an elven hunting party in the distance. Exact quote from the book is in bold:

"There they sat for a long while and did not dare to make a move. Bombur slept on with a sile on his fat face, as if he no longer cared for all the troubles that vexed him. Suddenly on the path ahead appeared some white deer, a hind and fawns as snowy white as the hart had been dark. They glimmered in the shadows. Before Rhorin could cry out three of the dwarves had leaped to their feet and loosed off arrows from their bows. None seemed to find their mark. The deer turned and vanished in the trees as silently as they had come, and in vain the dwarves shot their arrows after them."


The Hobbit book itself doesn't tell us the significance of white deer, but Tolkien had them appear for a reason. As it says on the short page about the white deer on the Tolkien Gateway website,


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"Douglas A. Anderson has noted that the appearance of white deer in The Hobbit forebodes the approach by Bilbo and company to the Wood-elven area of Mirkwood, as "n Celtic tradition, encounters with white animals (especially white deer) usually prefigure an encounter with beings from the Otherworld (FaŽrie)".[3]


So knowing that, the symbolism between the white stag in the movie and the white deer in the book is actually sort of similar. The white deer weren't an avatar for Thranduil, but they still indicated that the dwarves are officially entering Thranduil's realm, just as the white stag does.

"Home is behind the world ahead
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadow to the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight.

Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall fade"



Eruvandi
Justice League


Oct 20 2014, 5:54pm

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     Took me a second to realise what it was [In reply to]  

Now that I've clicked it and seen the bigger version...*bursts into tears*FrownFrownFrown BotFA's going to make me an emotional mess at this rate!Pirate

"Home is behind the world ahead
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadow to the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight.

Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall fade"



VValar
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oct 20 2014, 9:28pm

Post #38 of 216 (940 views)
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     The working URL for the BHS Thranduil DOS EE scene [In reply to]  

The link wasn't working correctly, here's the working link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BbOnteBj6Y

My first reaction when I saw it was *SQUEEEEEEEE* !!!
And I thought this would have definitely made it to the actual EE. But sadly this isn't the case and we won't be able to see more of Thranduil if all the rumors are correct.

BUT just to keep us a little bit happy for the moment, a couple of screencaps (clicky's) Heart




That look when his dad is telling the Dwarves off Heart


If your ears aren't pointy, you're doing it wrong.


VValar
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oct 20 2014, 9:29pm

Post #39 of 216 (944 views)
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     I'm afraid the Fab Cloak won't make it either [In reply to]  

That is a very sad thought on its own
Unimpressed
Unsure
Crazy
Mad

If your ears aren't pointy, you're doing it wrong.


VValar
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oct 20 2014, 9:34pm

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     Agreed wholeheartedly [In reply to]  


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Looks like it's a clip from the Appendices. When it show's PJ talking about it, he says, "The way that the introduction to the Woodland realm took place and it's what we filmed, is that they're led in as prisoners before Thranduil. We spent quite a lot of time shooting it, I've gotta say, and everyone was great, but it was a scene that was really just unnecessary. They've been captured out in the forest, which was quite an elaborate sequence unto itself, and you really just want them to be thrown in the cells."





Wow you typed out the conversation, great job Heart
But then:

(..) but it was a scene that was really just unnecessary.
(..) and you really just want them to be thrown in the cells.

Unimpressed

I was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Peter, just NO! Who told you could speak for the Thralls and deprive us from our much needed Thranduil kick? Pirate

If your ears aren't pointy, you're doing it wrong.

(This post was edited by VValar on Oct 20 2014, 9:35pm)


VValar
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oct 20 2014, 9:42pm

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     Whoa good stuff! [In reply to]  

I'm probably missing something massive here, but where did you get those screencaps from? Me want to know Shocked !!

LOL Thrandy chillin' and looking absolutely fabulous with no effort at all Heart


THIS!!! Heart Heart Heart
A black tunic? Haven't seen it before?? Looks SO good *THUD* Maybe it's a sneak peak on one of his BOFA outfits? Even Peter can't stop touching LP LOL


I could comment on each of the screencaps you posted, but that would take me too long and it's time much better spent staring at all the Pretty! Thanks so much for sharing Smile

If your ears aren't pointy, you're doing it wrong.


VValar
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oct 20 2014, 9:48pm

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     Yup it appears to be the same tunic as in BOFA [In reply to]  

Just look at the bottom of the tunic. Same texture/color as the armor piccies, just look at the vertical stripes at the end of the tunic.
Very very nice <insert Bofur image here>








If your ears aren't pointy, you're doing it wrong.


mariel
Fantastic Four

Oct 20 2014, 9:53pm

Post #43 of 216 (914 views)
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     Screencaps [In reply to]  

If you look on tumblr there's a lot of pics including Thranddy in a white outfit sitting on a horse. Not great quality pics yet. Got to get the photoshoppers involvedSmile


VValar
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oct 20 2014, 9:56pm

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     Loving the bling [In reply to]  


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I have to agree with phij2 (welcome welcome SmileSmile) Thranduil is killing it with his bling. I especially like the wood/branch-like rings on him Heart

And re the pic with his silver crown, I'm not sure I'm a big fan of the top of the crown. To me it looks a bit too much like a deer's antlers. I like it better when the crop is cutting it off Tongue



If your ears aren't pointy, you're doing it wrong.


VValar
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oct 20 2014, 9:59pm

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     LOL re stumbling across Thranduil [In reply to]  


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Is that what we're calling it? Does sound classier than 'tackling', I must admit. ;)


Angelic

Tackling the Woodland King would be more like it I'll admit. Or at least try to tackle him (probably die trying cause the King would not be amused I image Evil)

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VValar
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oct 20 2014, 10:02pm

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     Welcome! [In reply to]  

And oh my what a compromising *ahem* picture you posted there. I like your last piccie better AngelicHeart


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VValar
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oct 20 2014, 10:17pm

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     Re Thranduil's height [In reply to]  


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Looks like Thranduil's staff is approximately three inches taller than me and LP himself is nine inches taller! If I'm picturing it correctly, the top of my head *might* come up to that lovely brooch he wears on his collar, or thereabouts. Duuuuuude.Shocked






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VValar
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oct 20 2014, 10:18pm

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     WB award season? [In reply to]  

What's that all about? Smile

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VValar
Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.


Oct 20 2014, 10:31pm

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     Re all sorts of things [In reply to]  

 

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Nearly as tall as I am so I have a nice indicator here Angelic


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Shocked I've read your country has the tallest average height. But still, to be taller than 1.78!!!Mad no fair!CrazyTongue



Nah about an inch smaller than 1.78m but still with high heels and all it could all work out beautifuly Heart lol
And you're right! According to this graph http://www.averageheight.co/...le-height-by-country (I didn't even know it so I googled it and boy you do seem to know a lot about a lot of things)Wink



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Huh. So you will get BotFA before revisiting GotG? Wow... interesting shift it's going to beSmile



I know, it's weird right? Oh well, as long as I'm able to attend the premiere of BOFA on Dec 10th, I'm all good. Ronan can wait another week Tongue

Thanks for explaining the Stag-scene and symbolism (Eruvandi as well). Now I'll be able to appreciate it even more when I see it Smile







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vanima ephel
Spider-person


Oct 20 2014, 11:17pm

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     These are some great stills. [In reply to]  

This one is killing me!


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I'm sure he'd pull it off (with all the effects and background it's obviously lacking) but it looks very "Emperor's New Clothes" with the green screen (and the guy with the sock on his head down front Tongue). And this had to be from the Feast of Starlight. I really wanted to see that. Unsure

And...


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That's adorable! They just can't keep their hands off him.

"I dissent, even at the risk of being held incorrect or not sober."

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