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Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part XIV
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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Sep 24 2014, 11:09am

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     Actually... [In reply to]  


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Hmm you're right, Thranduil doesn't seem like the type who would pack some of Legolas garments along for the road.

I think Thranduil just might do so, just cos he's bringing the army along and Legolas will be sticking out like a sore thumb when they reunite.Smile





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Heart Thranduil Appreciation
Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIV
I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII | XIII


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Sep 24 2014, 11:11am

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     Oh right! Thanks for the reminder [In reply to]  


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Re the muster: Leggy could still be at the muster even though he was chasing Bolg at the end of DOS. At the beginning of the Botfa teaser trailer we can see Leggy and Tauriel from the back as they watch the refugees, with a smoking Laketown in the background. Since we now know that Thranduil shows up to help the Laketowners after they've gotten to Dale and the place in that pic is not Dale, we can assume that Leggy comes back before that time. IIRC, in the book, Thranduil first heard about Smaug's death via the birds, but PJ doesn't seem to want to use talking animals of any form, so I think Leggy may take the place of the birds and go tell his father what has happened.

interesting theory, and plausible too... *suspicious* do you have something with the word "script" stamped on it on your person somewhere?Tongue






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Heart Thranduil Appreciation
Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIV
I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII | XIII


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Sep 24 2014, 11:23am

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     Point! Point! And Point! mariel [In reply to]  

Thanks for sharing, and filling in the holes in my spiel.Smile



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Of course, I'm aware from reading your previous thread that others view Thranduil's motives totally differently, which is completely their prerogative, and it seems that never the twain shall meet. I don't think the movie portrayal helps either, showing him lusting after the starlight jewels, both in the AUJ EE and in the confrontation with Thorin, things that didn't actually happen in the book.

Yeah... sometimes I even skip threads because it's been brought up repeatedly and I've said my piece... though it seems when I put up my $0.02 in other threads I get silence: there's little interest in discussion or maybe I'm just on ignore more than I know. Whatever. So comes a point time ought to be better spent so I might as well kick back, relax, purvey Pretty!, preach to the converted (and be surer of getting a response) and just stay hereAngelic



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I hope this ramble makes some sort of sense, but it is just my view of things and like you I'm not interested in getting involved in the same argument or trying to change the minds of others. Mind you, I don't think Thranduil is a perfect being far from it that would make him very boring.

Perfectly sensible ramble! Smile And yes, Thranduil's perfection as an Elf is precisely because he's such an imperfect being. Just can't get enough of flawed BEAUTY.HeartHeartHeart ... I think I'm starting some insensible ramble, better quit while I'm aheadBlush






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Heart Thranduil Appreciation
Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIV
I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII | XIII


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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(This post was edited by Lurker in the Mirk on Sep 24 2014, 11:23am)


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Sep 24 2014, 11:24am

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     Rem, you have such a way with words, saying that so well. Thanks // [In reply to]  

 




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Heart Thranduil Appreciation
Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIV
I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII | XIII


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Sep 24 2014, 11:27am

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     *puts nerd on* mariel... [In reply to]  

just wondering if perhaps you're composing your response in Word and pasting it onto the post editor? I find that my Word template automatically double-spaces paragraphs and I end up with posts looking like yours if I didn't add another ENTER after each paragraph (I could edit the Word template of course, but somehow never got round to itCrazyTongue). If it's a different thing, forgive me for poking my nose in.Blush




Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Thranduil Appreciation
Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIV
I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII | XIII


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Sep 24 2014, 11:37am

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     hmmm... just felt the need to butt in here (book spoilers) [In reply to]  


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That sounds a bit greedy to me. Just risked his life in a war he didn't want to fight in the first place, all he gets in return is some necklace. Gah, I hope Thranduil made the ungoing trade agreements very favourable for himself, seeing as the Laketowners had enough gold to spare Mad

Well, it wasn't that Bard kept the lion's share for himself. Due to how things play out, at least in the book, Bard got 1/14 of the treasure, which was ceded by Bilbo to him. Bard's claim was on behalf of the affected people from Smaug's attack, and he expected to use it to rebuild both Laketown and Dale, after rewarding the warriors wtih him. I felt he might have been a bit more prudent with who and what he gift actually. But he very thoughtfully gave Thranduil a necklace that he knew Thranduil liked.

From the book:
Even a fourteenth share was wealth exceedingly great, greater than that of many mortal kings. From that treasure Bard sent much gold to the Master of Lake-town; and he rewarded his followers and friends freely. To the Elvenking he gave the emeralds of Girion, such jewels as he most loved, which Dain had restored to him.

I do hope this just meant the jewels were just specifically for Thranduil, and that Bard also
recognised the elven warriors.





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Heart Thranduil Appreciation
Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIV
I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII | XIII


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Sep 24 2014, 11:39am

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     Thank you, ltnjmy [In reply to]  


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Thranduil marched thinking about his people - IMHO - first and foremost

On top of your first paragraph, this!Smile






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Heart Thranduil Appreciation
Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIV
I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII | XIII


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Sep 24 2014, 11:43am

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     Well said! [In reply to]  


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This tells me Thranduil does not gather treasure just because, and he would certainly not risk the lives of him or his people to get a few more shiney objects (unlike the Dwarves, who did not reconsider their actions and what it could lead to). Thranduil is so very wise like that, taking everything in consideration Heart

Perhaps in some deep corner of his heart, Thranduil may desire treasure for its sake - who doesn't? (let he without sin cast the first stone and all that mumbo jumbo), but well, if he really was that insensibly avaricious, he'd have thrown his army at Smaug as soon as the embers of Dale stopped burning and the Dwarves left the area. Why wait until this point in time? So yes, agree with youSmile







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Heart Thranduil Appreciation
Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIV
I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII | XIII


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Sep 24 2014, 11:46am

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     Thanks for the info [In reply to]  

Feren it is.

Got a personal mathom here: Strangely, there's this mad thread in my mind that just invokes that blondish Gondorian who tells Gandalf "Long has Denethor seen this" to which Gandalf answered "Seen but done nothing" when Faramir was dragged through the gates after that disastrous run at OsgiliathCrazy




Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Thranduil Appreciation
Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIV
I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII | XIII


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Sep 24 2014, 11:49am

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     LoL Actually reckon you missed that [In reply to]  

and quite a few other posts over the threads addressed to youEvil

but... back to topic:

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...suddenly all those pics of him towering over people who are supposed to be 6'3" and ladies having to stand on boxes to kiss himHeartHeartHeart make much more sense. And he even had to kneel down for the costume people to adjust his headdress? Wow!

doesn't it though?Smile HeartHeartHeart




Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Thranduil Appreciation
Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIV
I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII | XIII


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Sep 24 2014, 11:51am

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     Haha [In reply to]  


GIF!




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Heart Thranduil Appreciation
Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIV
I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII | XIII


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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mariel
Lorien

Sep 24 2014, 11:52am

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     You are right [In reply to]  

That's exactly what I did. I'll have to watch for that in future if I ever get long winded again! Thanks for the advice
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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Sep 24 2014, 12:18pm

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     Oh yeah [In reply to]  


Source

Laugh





Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Thranduil Appreciation
Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIV
I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII | XIII


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Sep 24 2014, 12:21pm

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     Welcome [In reply to]  

Glad to helpSmile Well, if I may, one alternative: if you're just making a response with no special formatting, and if you're comfortable with it, try using Notepad. That will save you the trouble of having to hit enter twice.




Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Thranduil Appreciation
Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIV
I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII | XIII


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Sep 24 2014, 3:46pm

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     *hides suspicious stack of papers* *whistles innocently* ;) [In reply to]  


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interesting theory, and plausible too... *suspicious* do you have something with the word "script" stamped on it on your person somewhere?Tongue

LOL, I wish! I just enjoy putting on my Sherlock Holmes hat and seeing if I can deduce thing from how PJ's been setting things up. For example, he's already made it so that the thrush flying to Bard and telling him about the chink in Smaug's armor is unnecessary because Bard knows the legends about the loose scale. He's made it unnecessary for Roac, the creaky old raven to tell the dwarves that Smaug is dead too, because A: The dwarves seem to be able to see Laketown from the mountain and B: there are four dwarves in Laketown that can tell them exactly what happened from an eye-witness perspective when they catch up to the rest of the company. So basically, the company will be able watch Laketown being destroyed and see Smaug be shot and fall into the Lake. Unlike the book, there will be no question as to where he went.

Speaking of which, I figure this shot from the teaser trailer of Bilbo staring off into the distance with the dwarves in the background just calmly doing whatever, may be him watching the smoke rise from Laketown the morning after Smaug is killed and feeling bad that all that death was basically their fault.



Anyway, back to Tauriel and Leggy. Along with Legolas taking the place of the birds as messengers, I think they'll be the two elves who capture Bilbo when he sneaks out of the mountain to deliver the Arkenstone to Thranduil, which would explain this bit from Vlog 11. Pretty sure that red thing in Gandalf's left hand is the Arkenstone wrapped up in cloth.


Basically Bilbo will be captured with Arkenstone on his person and at some point as Leggy and Tauriel escort him though Dale, they'll run into Gandalf *happy reunion time* and then they'll all go to Thranduil and Bard and let Bilbo explain himself.

Just wait and see. It'll happen.Wink

"Home is behind the world ahead
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadow to the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight.

Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall fade"



Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Sep 24 2014, 4:04pm

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     Me too [In reply to]  


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I bet if we see Thranduil laugh a bit more in BoFA, we could see where Leggy gets his dashing and enchanting smile from. Although I think there will be little reason for Thranduil to smile in the midst of all the fighting. Maybe if he sees Legolas is alive and well after the battle?
Yes. And if he's still stern because he needs to maintain the dignity of father and ruler, I'm hoping we see some surely heartmelting smiles when he bids farewell to Bilbo as in the book.Heart

Yeah, saying farewell to Bilbo would be a great place to have Thranduil actually smile for once while still maintaining his dignity. I think it would be nice if he'd show at least a little emotion towards his own son, though. It doesn't have to be a big display of emotion or anything, just a little fatherly concern that his only son went AWOL and he didn't know if he was Ok would be more than enough.

"Home is behind the world ahead
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadow to the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight.

Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall fade"



VValar
Gondor


Sep 24 2014, 10:27pm

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     I'm all good.... for now [In reply to]  

No posting goblins just yet (Shocked) but since this is only my first post they could still happen.

Oh and if anything is unclear in my posts, please feel free to ask me about it anytime (but you already did so I'm sure you'll be just fine asking for any clarification when needed).


Kerewyn
Rohan


Sep 24 2014, 10:28pm

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     *gasp* [In reply to]  

I can't believe I had never seen that BTS of the orc interogation scene! (well I can believe actually - I don't spend a great deal of time trawling You Tube, even for TH stuff, as it quickly uses up my pathetic 2GB allowance - yep I'm on a budget at moment...)

Fantastic! SmileSmile
LP Heart
Also, EL's knife-twirling skillz. Heart

And I note one of those picture double guys was also on another B-Roll clip, in which he landed the job of plane-spotting. Wouldn't it be great to be an all-rounder on the set, and be able to jump into a variety of small but useful jobs as needed.


OK, now to catch up. I've been waylaid in Victor Hugo world last coupla days, having just been to see Les Miserables on stage.



"Thou speakest of thralldom. If thralldom it be, thou canst not escape it..."

(This post was edited by Kerewyn on Sep 24 2014, 10:30pm)


VValar
Gondor


Sep 24 2014, 10:32pm

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     Hmm slight opportunity of seeing... [In reply to]  

.... Leggy in armour you reckon? Well we'll just have to wait and see if it's going to happen. Personally, you know what I woud like to see Angelic What he wore in Helm's Deep wasn't nearly enough to satisfy my (fangirlish) needs. Plus he didn't even wear nice and shiney Elven armour at that time. So imagine what he would look like in a (small) downgrade version of Thranduil's armour..... Heart



PS we're on page 6 already. We're on fire Evil


Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Sep 24 2014, 10:35pm

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     Nice to know that happened to someone other than me [In reply to]  


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ooooh... sorry to hear that! I've been having some problems as well. Generic post-death seems to be occurring with increasing frequency. I'm making it a point to copy out post content before I hit "Preview Post" or "Post Reply". Heck, sometimes uploading an attachment does that too. Drives me nuts.

I had generic post death in here just the other day and couldn't figure out what happened. I hadn't even been writing for that long when it happened, but I hit "preview post" and it was gone just like that. Nice to know it wasn't something I did something wrong.Crazy

"Home is behind the world ahead
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadow to the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight.

Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall fade"



VValar
Gondor


Sep 24 2014, 10:53pm

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     Legolas' flawless(?) beauty [In reply to]  


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so I might as well kick back, relax, purvey Pretty!, preach to the converted (and be surer of getting a response) and just stay hereAngelic



Yeah you just stay here and preach to the converted as you so nicely put it Cool I sure appreciate the discussions and everyone's opinions. Personally, I learn something new almost everytime a new discussion is put up in this thread Smile



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And yes, Thranduil's perfection as an Elf is precisely because he's such an imperfect being. Just can't get enough of flawed BEAUTY.HeartHeartHeart



Hehe flawed beauty, way to describe Heart Thranduil Heart

Btw what did you think of Legolas' portrayal in LotR, and again in TH? Did you think he was just a perfect Elf, or did you perceive some flaws?
For me LotR Legolas is quite a bit different from TH Legolas. That's not to say I don't like TH Legolas, on the contrary! Despite what some people might think of this new portrayal of him. I love we get to see the more dangerous and wild side of Legolas, he takes more after his father in these movies (character wise) like that. LoTR Legolas was near perfect to me, except his little quarrel with Gimli in the beginning in FotR, and the ye of little faith-moment in TT movie version with Aragorn before the battle of Helm's Deep. Other than that he was perfect imo, perfect shooting, perfect fighting, perfect tricks, perfect friend (loyal, kind, etc.). I did read the LoTR but I don't exactly recall any specific character developments of him that were less than pretty (but it's fairly possible I might be missing some, since it has been too long when I last read it). Anyway like I said, in DOS Legolas seems more dangerous to me and has a don't mess with me-attitude towards the Dwarves obviously. He isn't all that nice to the Orc either, no problem of holding a knife to his throat, ready to cut him open if the Orc gives him but the slightest of reason. I could not picture LotR Legolas doing that, he dealt with his enemies swiftly and without any hassle. But to TH Legolas it appeares to be just a walk in the park.


VValar
Gondor


Sep 24 2014, 10:58pm

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See, I learn something new every day Smile And thanks for the book quote Heart

So Bard wasn't all that greedy and bad as I thought he was. Though (and this might sound as a very silly question but keep in mind I don't know TH book version storyline) why did he only got 1/14 of the treasure? I remember the Dwarves and Bilbo having agreed on sharing the treasure. But since at least three Dwarves won't be needing their share after the battle any more, why is it still 1/14?


Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Sep 24 2014, 11:04pm

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I had seen that pic of him wearing the pauldrons, but I didn't remember when it happened in the movies. Helm's Deep, huh? I'm not sure I see the point of only wearing shoulder protection and nothing else. Like you were saying in your other post, VValar, even his Mirkwood armor, while looking much better on him than the Helm's Deep armor and emphasizing those broad shoulders and...*stares dreamily at pic*...What was I saying?Blush Oh yeah...Even thought it's pretty it still doesn't protect that much of him. An arrow or sword at the right angle and bye bye Leggy.Frown

The only thing I can think is that the mithril shirt must be the real protection and the armor is a little extra protection around the neck and shoulders. Maybe. Either way, I'd be perfectly Ok with it if Thranduil brings Leggy his Mirkwood armor for him to wear during Botfa.Angelic

"Home is behind the world ahead
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadow to the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight.

Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall fade"



VValar
Gondor


Sep 24 2014, 11:11pm

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It does look nice, the glittery content of the box. But agreed, Thranduil might have been able to take it a long time ago (though not without any risk I'm sure) if he had wanted. Either he has a wonderfully controlled self restraint, or the gems weren't all THAT important to him to risk his (or some other Elf's life) life over. And he might have known all along his time would come, since he foresaw the ruin it would bring to the Dwarves because of their evergrowing greed. You could kind of see it in that look he gave when the box was shut right before him, the epic stare of doom Evil


VValar
Gondor


Sep 24 2014, 11:14pm

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