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Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part XIII

Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Sep 16 2014, 2:43am

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     Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part XIII  

And on we go, cruisin' on the TAXIII ride HeartAngelic

Any and all appreciation of HeartThranduil and everything related to him happens here.
All HeartThranduil Thralls, and appreciating non-Thralls are welcome.Smile So feel free to jump in at any time!

(Clicky! for the glorious image source)



The Thranduil Appreciation thread count:
I | II
(Originating thread and II by Rowan Greene) | III | IV | V | VI | VII (Thread by Eruvandi)
VIII | IX
| X | XI | XII




Credit goes to Eowyn of Penns Woods for the "official" Thranduil Thrall moniker.




Thranduil Appreciation Lexicon
aka the little TAspeak garden Tongue

  • Bubba: Nickname of Thranduil's beloved War-Elk
  • Equal Opportunistic Thrall: One who thralls whom her/his infidelity fancies. Shamelessly multi-allegiance by nature. See also "Thranduil Thralls"
  • Elvenking, The: That's right, that's how it's supposed to be written
  • Facemelt: That thing Thranduil does in T&T
  • Fanart: Popular post subject/title. Beacon for Thralls, as sure as moths dive into flames. (Helpful reference for the threadlard inspired: "The TA (very) Quickie Help/TIPS for adding IMAGES and POSTING") See also "Pretty!"
  • FLAST: Shorthand for Flustered Leggy AND Sassy Thranduil. In honour of the worship for badass (maybe a smidgeon of oblivious in there somewhere) Thranduil and his actions/non-actions resulting in Legolas getting into a flap. Requires Legolas to be present when Thranduil does his thang
  • GotG: Guardians of the Galaxy. That movie in August 2014 with LP in it
  • HCF: Halt and Catch Fire. LP's 2014 TV series.
  • High Thud Risk (aka HTR): Alert for Pretty! hoarding thralls, invoked when 'EI' ain't cutting it. See also Pretty!
  • LA: The Last Alliance of Elves and Men, not the city in the States
  • Lee Pace: Thranduil
  • Leggy: affectionate diminutive of Legolas
  • Legolas: Son of Thranduil, aka surfer Elf of LotR
  • LP: Lee Pace
  • Oropher: Father of Thranduil
  • Orry/Oro: affectionate diminutive of Oropher
  • PD: Pushing Daisies. LP's 2007/2008 TV series.
  • Peckish Thrall: Avandel's TA humour panels ala Peckish Owl (So this is new, sue me. I'm just pre-emptively perpetuating something that's an eventuality Angelic)
  • Pretty!: Surely self-explanatory? See also "Woodland Weekend", "High Thud Risk"
  • T&T: The Thranduil and Thorin confrontation scene in DOS. Generally ranked top favourite of Thranduil Thralls
  • TA: Thranduil Appreciation. All-round Heart for the Elvenking and his onscreen avatar (and by extension teh actor. See also LP). Shockingly, there are TA posts with that literary bent associated with thinking individuals frequenting such an exemplary forum as TORn. Some even hint at functional brain-matter in the poster.
  • That disagreeable (among other things) Dwarf: See "T&T"
  • Theory of Bling: Overarching term for theories and speculation on the backstories of Thranduil's rings. Popular discussion circa TAIII/TAIV, but still pops up occasionally.
  • Thranddy: affectionateHeart diminutive of the Elvenking's name (if you don't know who is the Elvenking, google is your mellon)
  • Thranduil Thralls: The afflicted. Fangirls, and boys, whose allegiance are pledged to the Elvenking. Also known as the hopelessly enthralled to his ELVEN MAGNIFICENCE. Perturbing to some, Thralldom may not be exclusive. See also "Equal Opportunistic Thrall"
  • Threadlock: The inevitable fate of all TA threads exceeding 200 replies, aka mundane Chore of Mod. See also "Thread tipping"
  • Thread tipping: Post(s) that sends the current TA thread over the 200 replies threshold (See this tip about avoiding post-death while threadtipping). See also "Threadlock"
  • TW: Thrall Wars. An ongoing bit of silliness in the Fan Art board ribbing everything in and about the Thralldoms of Thranduil and that disagreeable (among other things) Dwarf (see "T&T"). Only one thing is sure: nothing and no one is safe Evil Think of it as vicarious authorly pretensions in miniature ping-pong mode, usually between Avandel and yours truly... Morphing into a 3-player mahjong game with Kerewyn dipping her toes inHeart
  • Woodland Weekend (aka WW): Occasional mega URL laden post for Pretty! of Thranduil, and LP. May also include goodness for Legolas, *cough*That disagreeable (among other things) Dwarf*cough* and some others. Selective indiscrimination is key. See also "Pretty!", "High Thud Risk"


  • Keeping track of the appreciation
    Caught off-guard at how much you've missed? 1 simple click will ensure you won't miss another update again. Put this thread on watch! Locate the "Watch thread" button to the top and right of this post (button 3 of the 5 threads buttons you see) and click it.

    Also, if you click on the "creation" bit in the "Age" column (last one) when you view a forum, it changes to "activity", and you get a list of threads which has been recently posted to, instead of when they were started. It's a much easier way to find the current TA thread since someone will probably post in it, and it usually appears on page 1 of the activity view. Certainly beats going back through the board to look for it.






    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    Rembrethil
    Tol Eressea


    Sep 16 2014, 2:57am

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         Wow! These threads have a short resplendent time! [In reply to]  

    It was just a few minutes!

    Well, I really must say that I'm impressed at the great achievement that you've allude here! Number 13 already!!! Kudos to you and all your fellow Thralls!

    BTW: The glossary/lexicon of terms, brilliant and entertaining by itself!!!Laugh

    Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?


    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 16 2014, 3:00am

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         (HTR Alert) Thranduil in the new banner thingy [In reply to]  

    So continuing from VValar's aptly OMG post in TAXIISmile



    Another version here.

    Prophetic words of Bilbo aptly applicable here


    Leggy and Thranddy


    Great contrast and portent-laden.



    Here's more





    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 16 2014, 3:05am

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         Lol... Yup! If threadlock happens when I'm loitering in the vicinity [In reply to]  


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    It was just a few minutes!

    I've a compulsion to keep it goingEvilBlushTongue Was it just a few minutes? Must have been sucked into a time vortex Evil



    In Reply To
    Well, I really must say that I'm impressed at the great achievement that you've allude here! Number 13 already!!! Kudos to you and all your fellow Thralls!

    Yes, thanks to the indulgences of my fellow Thralls. Though most seem struck by STV syndrome - Silent Thread Visitor. Tongue



    In Reply To
    BTW: The glossary/lexicon of terms, brilliant and entertaining by itself!!!Laugh

    Ah, thank you, thank you... DRAT! Forgot to add STV to the lexicon CrazyTongue




    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    Rembrethil
    Tol Eressea


    Sep 16 2014, 4:14am

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         Dang it! Can you see the Autocorrect? [In reply to]  

    That was supposed to be 'respawn' not 'resplendent'.Tongue

    Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?


    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 16 2014, 4:33am

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         Why yes, though resplendent does describe Thranduil so well [In reply to]  

    Angelic But yes, I figured you prolly replied on a phone which had a plague of autocorrect goblins in towSmile


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    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 16 2014, 5:20am

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         (Con't from TAXII) Elves going West... as it applies to Thranduil [In reply to]  

     In response to VValar's post "Thranduil and the West" from the subthread "Fanart: Passing of the Elves, and questions".


    In Reply To


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    At some point, all that may be left of the Sylvan are half-conscious disembodied spirits )....) At that point, Thranduil, who I believe would stay in ME regardless of hell or high water because of his love and sense of responsibility for his subjects, will see that there's no need and no one to keep him in ME.



    I like the way you're thinking. Thranduil would do anything for his people, who he loves very dearly. So would they be fading for any reason and the only option to save their bodies and souls by sailing West (and seeing as there isn't anything left in ME anymore when both his family and subjects are either in the West already or craving to go there) I have no doubt he would make that decision.

    Unless I'm missing something, with reference to the Silm, and the HoME bit on Laws and Customs of the Elves (LaCE) that vanima shared a while back, there is no option to save them in the sense of bringing them to life by his going West himself. Since Wood Elves refused the summons of the Valar, and did not want anything to do with them or to even go near Aman, by staying on in ME their bodies will ultimately fade to nothing, leaving only their souls, in which forms they are doomed to wander and wane through to the end of Arda. That is, unless they die, in which case, their souls will go to the Halls of Mandos on Aman anyway, but they cannot leave those Halls at will, and will need to get in line for a new body. (Though I wonder if this re-embodiment clause is applicable to Elves who refused the summons, which the Silvan are). But it seems re-embodied Elves continue to stay on in Aman, Glorfindel being the only exception. So that's why to me, there will come a time when Thranduil would not have anyone to be concerned with in ME, unless a motion among the Silvan to up and go ask for blanket admittance to the West was tabled and voted "yea" unanimously before then - in which case Thranduil would be at the head of a grand procession indeed. Though the manner of the reception and the outcome of the journey would be wide open to speculation, putting it mildly.



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    In Reply To
    He really doesn't strike me as the type to accept or be satisfied with the fate of ultimately being just a diminished version of himself, a wandering forgetful spirit just roaming ME until the end of days.
    And


    In Reply To
    Lastly, I feel that Thranduil will feel the tug for family, especially as his people dwindled. And he might want to spend time with the clan when he gets to the West rather than arrive there dead and languishing in the Halls of Mandos waiting his turn for re-embodiment (may be getting it wrong here but I think that's the deal with Mandos' pad). I think it's safe to say he's the one Elf who doesn't leave things to chance if he had any say in the matter. He wants things done on his terms.


    Heart Love your description of him, he is a very strong minded Elf. I think you're right too, I don't think Thranduil would give that choice of chance to anyone but himself. So when he finally decides it's time, it's time.

    ThanksSmile It goes back to vanima's comment about Thranduil being a maverick too Heart So yup! He would not willingly accept any ol' fate by decree.

    And just thinking about his experience ruling, and commanding so long in ME, I have to wonder what will he make of whatever's the deal on Aman when (if for vanimaSmile) he gets there. I've not finished the Silm (cleared chappie 15 last night *YAY*), but it seems to me, the order of things will be quite set when he arrives. I guess, depending on Oropher's actual standing (and maybe his other family members as well... genealogy dammit!) in the clans, and how much cred the fellowship's built for Legolas, he might swan in to some great stuff. I'd think so. But the place's gonna to be crowded with ruling princes and past kings and so on and so forth regardless. Plus there are the Valar and Maia (though I'm sure he'd at least have some glass-clinking with Mithrandir and maybe even Radagast... or perhaps he struck an accord with Radagast, woh remained in ME and promised to take care of the wandering Elven sould forevermore UnsureCrazy). In any case, Thranduil's time in the Blessed Realm would definitely make a tremendously interesting read if nothing else.

    Let's wait for vanima to weigh in with her thoughts. Certainly hopes she sees this!Smile






    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    DanielLB
    Immortal


    Sep 16 2014, 8:01am

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         Reply to VValar from Part XII [In reply to]  


    Quote
    But..... Only one of Thranduil?


    Ha! I had originally made two, but stuck to the one. I would give you a sneak peak ... but that would ruin the surprise, right? Wink

    Though ... it might be quite fun to make a couple and then let the Thralls vote for their favourite. Hmmm ...



    Bombadil
    Half-elven


    Sep 16 2014, 8:37am

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         ZZzzzzzzzzzz..Can Bomby SLEEP through thizz one?// [In reply to]  

     

    www.charlie-art.biz
    "What Your Mind can conceive... charlie can achieve"


    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 16 2014, 10:00am

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         Well, surprise the lot then [In reply to]  


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    Quote
    But..... Only one of Thranduil?


    Ha! I had originally made two, but stuck to the one. I would give you a sneak peak ... but that would ruin the surprise, right? Wink

    Though ... it might be quite fun to make a couple and then let the Thralls vote for their favourite. Hmmm ...

    Plus, are you sure you wanna deal with the process and the fallout?Tongue




    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 16 2014, 10:04am

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         In response to Silverlode's post in XII... *points at BlackFox* [In reply to]  

    This one


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    Nice to know that my rare appearances in these threads carry some weight! WinkLaugh

    Of course!



    In Reply To
    Also, I got a good laugh when I noticed that, of your CHOW footers, only Thranduil is in living color. Too gorgeous to be confined to a mere sepia portrait, of course. Cool

    Totally! Though that was thanks to BlackFox whipping up the Thranduil one in a jiffy cos I sorta whinged *cough* Angelic


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    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 16 2014, 11:23am

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         # XIII and still going strong [In reply to]  

    Thanks for opening TA thread number 13, and so quickly after the last one was closed. And I see you extended the lexicon with FLAST and HTR alert Smile

    Wonderful use of the 'OMG image' in the opening post. This little present was really meant for the Thralls to use at the start of #13 Heart

    To all the Thralls, non-Thralls and silent lurkers... happy posting & reading!


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 16 2014, 11:36am

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         I like the one with Leggy and Thrandy for obvious reasons [In reply to]  

    And is that a reverse grip Legolas is using on his right hand?

    I'm really really liking the contrast between the pictures of Thorin/Thranduil. Also the lightning in Thorin's picture... green... envy? It looks sickish, like he's already succumb to his dragonsickness. While Thranduil is looking focussed and serious, looking out fot his army and it looks like he's hearing something from behind. All the while, I can't get over how ridiculously good his hair is looking Evil

    I must say I don't think the picture of Tauriel did her any justice, imo a bad photoshop where her head looks twice the normal size.


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 16 2014, 11:40am

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         I'm liking your idea very much [In reply to]  


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    Ha! I had originally made two, but stuck to the one. I would give you a sneak peak ... but that would ruin the surprise, right? Wink


    Unsure .... Well it's never too late to add the second one as well. I'm sure it was just as glorious as the first one you made Angelic



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    Though ... it might be quite fun to make a couple and then let the Thralls vote for their favourite. Hmmm ...


    Yes yes, we likes that idea, yes we do!!


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 16 2014, 11:55am

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         I seriously should get back to my Silm reading [In reply to]  

    Because I would love to discuss the possibilities of Thranduil leaving West, either with or without his Silvan people. But I simply don't have anything clever to say except what I hope/think he will do, without any actual knowledge-based ideas Evil

    But I can show you some artwork I came across concerning this subject




    LOL SlySly



    Kerewyn
    Rohan


    Sep 16 2014, 12:48pm

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         TAXIII! [In reply to]  

    Wha.. what...wait! That tipped faster than an elven blade - I'm still wading happily through a plethora of WW links! Still, better a Thrandy overload than... not. Wink

    In the last of your tumblr links in the post hat I'm replying to, this seems to be the most close-up image of tapestry Thranduil's face as he turns to look back. He has an expression of surprise and annoyance, like he's not merely looking over his shoulder, but something has just happened.

    (someone threw a stone bounced off Babba's antler, and he's like "now cut that out!") Tongue

    I like the way the cloak is spread out. This is both great for show, and to keep Babba's backside warm in this cold clime. Cool



    "Thou speakest of thralldom. If thralldom it be, thou canst not escape it..."


    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 16 2014, 12:54pm

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         You're welcome =) [In reply to]  

    Hope the book quote is liked too. I just meshed them together on the fly on a whim of the moment so it's not as great as it could beEvil




    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    Kerewyn
    Rohan


    Sep 16 2014, 12:54pm

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         Likewise, VValar, [In reply to]  

    I'm finding it fascinating as I read the Silm (currently up to Beren & Luthien) to reflect on how Thranduil would fit into the great scheme of things.

    Nice images there of Thranduil's own reflection. On an amused note re your LOL cartoon - at first sight, I misread it and thought he was saying "I'm going to do Valinor".
    As in "I'm going to do lunch." Sly



    "Thou speakest of thralldom. If thralldom it be, thou canst not escape it..."


    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 16 2014, 1:05pm

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         Yay, reverse grip, contrast... and erm bad PS [In reply to]  


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    And is that a reverse grip Legolas is using on his right hand?

    Looks so to meHeart he's got the best teacher after all.Angelic And I thought you might liked the father and son comboSmile




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    I'm really really liking the contrast between the pictures of Thorin/Thranduil. Also the lightning in Thorin's picture... green... envy? It looks sickish, like he's already succumb to his dragonsickness. While Thranduil is looking focussed and serious, looking out fot his army and it looks like he's hearing something from behind. All the while, I can't get over how ridiculously good his hair is looking Evil

    Always liked the contrast of the two... (and I've not been able to improve on MAAD... any suggestions?) But the lighting, interesting thought you got. It seemed like the greenish tint in Erebor we see in AUJ, where I think he is, since he's on Thror's throne, but just sickened to reflect his state of mind?

    Thranduil is looking FABULOUS as alwaysHeart He's got purpose and mission. And we know he's got the fire of just CAUSE, even if just on behalf of Bard by the start of the Battle. It's like he's pulled free of the darkness in Mirkwood, again in contrast to Thorin who seemed sunken deeper.

    And... oooh! Look, he's got his sword drawn!HeartHeartHeart



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    I must say I don't think the picture of Tauriel did her any justice, imo a bad photoshop where her head looks twice the normal size.

    Yeah, she looks odd. Actually, that star-crossed lovers reaching across an impossible chasm vibe of Ganddy and Glady isn't impressing me either. Elrond standing there looking all justified just makes him look like the jerk who came between them.CrazyTongue






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    Sep 16 2014, 1:12pm

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    Because I would love to discuss the possibilities of Thranduil leaving West, either with or without his Silvan people. But I simply don't have anything clever to say except what I hope/think he will do, without any actual knowledge-based ideas Evil

    I wing it a lot tooEvilCrazyTongue That's why i'd like to hear what vanima say, and point me back to the straight and narrow againEvil

    I find in general, when I wing it, at some point, either I get corrected or I go find out stuff that self-correct my thoughts. So don't stop saying what you think or hopeSmile We all learn.



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    LOL SlySly

    Oh for the love of Eru! FLAST with a side of FEASTING (Flustered Elrond And Sassy Thranduil, Including Not-impressed Galadriel) *somebody stop me!!!*TongueCrazyAngelic VValar FTW







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    Sep 16 2014, 1:19pm

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    Wha.. what...wait! That tipped faster than an elven blade - I'm still wading happily through a plethora of WW links! Still, better a Thrandy overload than... not. Wink

    LoL! Oh the bigger surprise is how long we continued to roll after tipping. Too bad we missed another chance to make a run for 250 posts Frown



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    In the last of your tumblr links in the post hat I'm replying to, this seems to be the most close-up image of tapestry Thranduil's face as he turns to look back. He has an expression of surprise and annoyance, like he's not merely looking over his shoulder, but something has just happened.

    I know! And I wanna know what has the Elvenking turning elegantly back with that look.



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    I like the way the cloak is spread out. This is both great for show, and to keep Babba's backside warm in this cold clime. Cool

    Hmmm... I'm thinking Bubba might be annoyed by the cloak since he's an Elk and Elk chomps through winterTongue But I'd expect an Elven cloak to have that marvellous quality of intelligent adaptation depending on the wearer, or in this instance, the drapee. So all's goodSly

    Am still chuffed to realise Thranduil's sword is drawn!Heart

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    Sep 16 2014, 1:22pm

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    Nice images there of Thranduil's own reflection. On an amused note re your LOL cartoon - at first sight, I misread it and thought he was saying "I'm going to do Valinor".
    As in "I'm going to do lunch." Sly

    LoL thanks for the image in my head now, Kerewyn

    And in momentous news, I'm at the part where Eol is in Curufin's hands as he searches for Aredhel and Maeglin *prepares to go back to Silm* oh, forgot to ask: So what say you? Aren't Feanor and his brood living up to the badass name?Smile






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    Sep 16 2014, 1:24pm

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    I've actually made some Desolation of Smaug ones (21 in total) to be added to the forum. And Thranduil appears in one of them, as well as Smaug, Beorn and Bard. I haven't gotten around to asking Calisuri yet. *Adds on to do to list*


    I believe they are called 'lenses'? Looking forward to seeing them - thanks for doing these! I always seeing them change through. Glad I brought it up :)



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    Sep 16 2014, 1:27pm

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    This is appearing in a different sub-thread. Might be easier for DanielB to see your reply if you clicked the "Reply To This Post" URL on his post.




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    Sep 16 2014, 1:35pm

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    So what say you? Aren't Feanor and his brood living up to the badass name?


    Feanor's cunning sons are pretty much rocking my world at the moment. I know I should be rooting for the heroes - and I am - but they just bring the conflict, which makes the excitement. I'm up to Celegorm and Curufin wrangling fatally with Beren. OMG. Shocked

    Am so relishing reading all this for the first time. Smile



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    Sep 16 2014, 1:42pm

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    Some appreciationHeartHeartHeart




    That's one heck of a LONG sword.

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    Sep 16 2014, 1:45pm

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    Feanor's cunning sons are pretty much rocking my world at the moment. I know I should be rooting for the heroes - and I am - but they just bring the conflict, which makes the excitement. I'm up to Celegorm and Curufin wrangling fatally with Beren. OMG. Shocked

    familial bickering! Can't wait till I get there SmileTongueEvilCrazy



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    Am so relishing reading all this for the first time. Smile

    And you have the marvellous images in the book to appreciate too. *envious*






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    Sep 16 2014, 1:56pm

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    According to this post in the discussion on this thread, extras include:
    • In The Halls Of The ElvenKing - The Woodland Realm- September 2011 (29:50)
    • Mirkwood Forest (15:00)
    • The Woodland Realm (20:00)





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    Sep 16 2014, 2:11pm

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    Brings to mind: "The letters are Elvish, of an ancient mode, but the language is
    that of Mordor, which I will not utter here" - Gandalf, FotR




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    Sep 16 2014, 2:14pm

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    Are there any particular favourite images that you'd like to see in the ring motifs? They'd have to only be official screencaps, behind the scenes shots, or promotional images (no manipulated images or fan art, to keep with the theme of the ones we already have).

    I can make them really easily. It might be fun to set up a thread on the Pollantir for people to vote.

    Let me check with the PTB first too. Smile



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    Sep 16 2014, 5:31pm

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    Thanks, I always need my - at least weekly - dose of his Sassiness.Wink


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    Sep 16 2014, 5:42pm

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    - but you both will LOVE it all the way til the end and re-read it endless times as I have done. (CoolOropher and Thranduil were of the Sindar - subjects of Thingol, father of Luthien Smile)


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    Sep 16 2014, 6:22pm

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    Well, this thread is certainly off to a good start! Hopefully my assignment load will lighten up soon so I can actually participate.Unsure

    Anyway, that Botfa banner is pretty great isn't it? Good to see Bubba, or at least a descendent of Bubba is back!Angelic Gah! I can't wait for this movie!Laugh

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    And there are many paths to tread
    Through shadow to the edge of night
    Until the stars are all alight.

    Mist and shadow
    Cloud and shade
    All shall fade
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    Sep 16 2014, 6:28pm

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    According to this post in the discussion on this thread, extras include:
    • In The Halls Of The ElvenKing - The Woodland Realm- September 2011 (29:50)
    • Mirkwood Forest (15:00)
    • The Woodland Realm (20:00)


    *bouncing up and down* I can't wait, I can't wait, I can't wait...*gasps for breath* I CAN'T WAIT!!!

    "Home is behind the world ahead
    And there are many paths to tread
    Through shadow to the edge of night
    Until the stars are all alight.

    Mist and shadow
    Cloud and shade
    All shall fade
    All shall fade"



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    Sep 16 2014, 7:37pm

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    Sep 16 2014, 8:15pm

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    On an amused note re your LOL cartoon - at first sight, I misread it and thought he was saying "I'm going to do Valinor".
    As in "I'm going to do lunch." Sly



    Lol, I can already see that happening. Did you notice his Elk in front of his paddle boat? That animal never leaves his side it seems in these type of images, I guess Thranduil is very fond of it.
    Heart


    I think his Elk (Bubba was his name, right? Evil) looks absolutely fabulous. At first I wasn't sure if an Elk would work because it's not your typical war-animal. I'm still not sure if he would use Bubba in actual battle, an Elk is not nearly as comfortable and agile as a horse. But it does make for an impressive entrance and I guess it makes for a good travel companion.

    It's good to hear you're all so very serious with your Silm reading. That's a very good thing for I'll be able to ask you any Silm-related/history questions without having to dust off my own copy of the book Wink I'm going to read it myself though, maybe I'll even start next week.


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    Sep 16 2014, 8:26pm

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    Sep 16 2014, 9:04pm

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    Looks so to meHeart he's got the best teacher after all.Angelic And I thought you might liked the father and son comboSmile




    You know I've never paid close attention to see if Legolas uses the reverse grip on his blades. I might have to rewatch all of his fighting scenes from LOTR and DOS to find out. But it would make sense he is able to use this technique for the reason you just stated: he has the best teacher in all of ME! And I'm sure Thranduil would have learned his son a trick or two on how to -stylishly- smash and hack any Orc in two.
    You were also right about the appreciating of the father/son combo, thanks for putting that up Heart It's funny that in his surprised look, Thranduil resembles Legolas more than I have seen him in any other picture imo. It's that face he's making, I've seen Leggy make that same face a couple of times throughout the films.

    Oh and of course I'm really liking the OP picture of Thranduil including the quote. I like reading passages concerning the Elvenking from TH very much since they're alll new to me. It is a really good way to start number 13 Smile (and I like that it's the first image I see when I click on the thread).

    Hmm about the MAAD... I know what you mean. It is a clever find but somehow it's missing that nice ring to it Unsure We'll need to invent another witty name for the not-so-loving relationship the Dwarves and Elves have developed with each other. Btw, have you read about the Dwarves and Thingol in the Silm?



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    And... oooh! Look, he's got his sword drawn!HeartHeartHeart



    Had not yet seen it Heart!
    Is he preparing for an attack when he hears the commotion behind him?



    In Reply To
    Yeah, she looks odd. Actually, that star-crossed lovers reaching across an impossible chasm vibe of Ganddy and Glady isn't impressing me either. Elrond standing there looking all justified just makes him look like the jerk who came between them.CrazyTongue


    Yep, too bad they did such a poor job on her. Ah well, it's a good thing they didn't mess up the Mirkwood Royals, they don't need a whole lot of photoshopping. Their natural beauty should not be tempered with HeartMad
    I do like the Galadriel/Gandalf image, unlike you Tongue I'm not getting a awkward lovers-type of-feel with the two of them, more like a very affectionative relationship between two dear friends. I think Galadriel is very happy with Celeborn, who is awesome and who keeps her in check Evil I think (hope) the Dol Guldur scene is going to rock, not only visually but also emotionally. The only thing I do find awkward is Elrond and Saruman just standing there looking lame in de background lol. e


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    Sep 16 2014, 9:14pm

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    Loving the FEASTING (Flustered Elrond And Sassy Thranduil, Including Not-impressed Galadriel). Lol it's amazing how you come up with such things Tongue I already know a FEAST (The First European Air Traffic Controller Selection Test) but since that's so totally different from anything Sassy Thranduil related, I'm sure I won't mix them up. Yeey we've got another one for the Lexicon!

    In that light, how do you like these?
    (Oh and I was too lazy to resize them so they're clicky's)
    (And it doesn't really involve a very flustered Elrond or a not so impressed Galadriel, but Thranduil is as Sassy as ever and well, I thought these images might fit the FEASTING description) Tell me what you think!

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/...C0U1r38rxfo2_500.jpg
    http://25.media.tumblr.com/...0U1r38rxfo3_1280.jpg


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 16 2014, 9:20pm

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    Cool, thanks for sharing that info!
    Dang I didn't know the sword was THAT long. But he has two right? Two badass swords to rock BOFA with Heart The excitement I have for these swords is barely contained!!


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    Gondor


    Sep 16 2014, 9:30pm

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    I wonder how long it took the person to do that cup of coffee.

    Sharing some Thranduil piccies



    Don't think this is Thranduil, might be Legolas? Anyway, I think it's cool


    This somehow reminds me of a younger prince Thranduil



    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 16 2014, 9:52pm

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    Oooooh let's see Heart

    I'm sure my fellow Thralls have their preferences as well. I hope they can add their favourite images in reply to your post. Smile


    How about this recent released image?
    https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...68574523897374_o.jpg

    Some of my other fav's
    http://s3.photobucket.com/...html?sort=3&o=78
    http://images6.fanpop.com/...36074091-612-380.jpg
    http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/...olation-of-smaug.jpg (Big clicky, HTR alert!)
    http://image.blingee.com/...782336244_618816.gif
    Oh wait, that's not an official promo Angelic

    (Oh and we likes these of Legolas as well Heart)
    http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/...lasandBardTBOT5A.jpg
    http://www.joblo.com/...m-legolas-empire.jpg
    http://s3.photobucket.com/...html?sort=3&o=80

    Do I need to go on? Angelic



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    Gondor


    Sep 16 2014, 9:56pm

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    And yes that banner is pretty awesome Heart
    Especially the part with Thrandy + Bubba and his army, already looking epic.
    Legolas isn't looking too bad either Wink
    Overall I like the entire banner. Smaug looks fierce, Thorin looks amazing (dark mood), as well as all the other characters. Except (and you might already have noticed this) I think they could've done a whole lot better with Tauriel in the photoshopping department. She looks better in the film or IRL than on that banner.

    Good luck on your assignment!


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    vanima ephel
    Rivendell


    Sep 16 2014, 10:12pm

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    Thanks for bringing a bit of that thread here. (I need the assistance!) But Don't rely on me for actual knowledge. Tongue I tend to remember just enough of what I've read to be dangerous. Almost anything I say online is all just my opinion of the fragments that Christopher Tolkien has doled out to drive us all crazy, and as I'm also taking the movieverse into consideration, my opinion might change drastically after viewing The Battle Of The Five Armies (or even the DoS:EE).

    And now I'm going to copypasta your well-reasoned reply to me, along with my irrational response:



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    So yes, I agree Thranduil will be King of the Elves in ME. For a very long time. But I imagine also that, being lesser elves, the

    Sylvan's hroar would be consumed faster than Thranduil's would be. And being lesser in being, their houseless fear may not be capable of

    cogent thoughts for ever. At some point, all that may be left of the Sylvan are half-conscious disembodied spirits, like the Huorns and

    ancients sentient trees the Ents shepherded. At that point, Thranduil, who I believe would stay in ME regardless of hell or high water

    because of his love and sense of responsibility for his subjects, will see that there's no need and no one to keep him in ME. He really

    doesn't strike me as the type to accept or be satisfied with the fate of ultimately being just a diminished version of himself, a

    wandering forgetful spirit just roaming ME until the end of days.



    I don't know if fear lose cognizance (or if being younger/lesser would make Sylvan hroar burn up more quickly or make Sylvan

    fear more prone to that kind of degradation) but I do remember that fear who refuse the call to Mandos were all supposed to be a bit

    evil, something I equate with "less wise and more dangerous" ;-) And I'm not convinced that any of the elves would lose their purpose,

    even if they did lose their hroar. I picture them whooping it up at starlight festivals in perpetuity.


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    And also, with the advent of Man, forests will diminish. It is sad, but I believe at some point beyond TA, there may not be any forests

    large enough for the Woodland Realm to endure within ME at all. Thranduil may end up moving his people out to somewhere like that little

    islet in the Bay of Balar just for peace's sake. In fact, I'd think they'd have to move a few times. He may also get more Elves as time

    passes since the other Eldar would all depart at some point, including Galadriel and Celeborn. At some point, Thranduil and his folks

    might be bunking in with Elrond or the twins. (OT: Hmm... would Arwen be in tow as well? Could get mighty crowded eh?)



    There are still places in the world today where you can get Lost In The Wilderness, but I don't think the elves would need an

    excess of woods. They are patient and crafty, they certainly know how to hide from beings who aren't looking for them. (Only the Very

    Unlucky would actually stumble across them. Those are the kind of Elves Tolkien loved to read tales of.) (OT: I wish we knew what the

    twins would be like in the movieverse. I've always picture them being a bit like Fred and George Weasley.)


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    Lastly, I feel that Thranduil will feel the tug for family, especially as his people dwindled. And he might want to spend time with the

    clan when he gets to the West rather than arrive there dead and languishing in the Halls of Mandos waiting his turn for re-embodiment

    (may be getting it wrong here but I think that's the deal with Mandos' pad). I think it's safe to say he's the one Elf who doesn't leave

    things to chance if he had any say in the matter. He wants things done on his terms. So when the above happens, I'd think he would make

    the Journey. There may be a fellow Sindar or two who have been with him since the beginning of Greenwood. But I also do not see a grand

    procession. He has no need for pomp at this point and there's just not enough participants anyway. And who knows, he may just make a

    return trip to ME after cooling his heels in the West for a couple of Ages. It's been done before. Smile


    Yeah, I'm pretty sure a bodily death earns you a seat in the waiting room that is Mandos. I'm also pretty sure that the loss of

    hoar would initiate a call, and once you've passed on it, you lose that seat in the waiting room that is Mandos. And I think an Elf can

    only be reincarnated if there's an Elven baby being born on Arda. (Not likely if only fear are left on Arda.) But I'm not sure that

    Thranduil would be worried about family if he knew they were safely tucked away in Valinor. (And I want to believe my Elvenking is in

    the wood in my backyard, so... Tongue)



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    *pauses* Well, I'm still shaky on Elvenlore so the above could all be untenable crap. But yeah, that's what I think.Smile



    Ditto! Though I'm hunting down some of the quotes I think I remember. I'm pretty sure most of them came out of Morgoth's Ring:

    The Later Silmarillion Part One
    (aka: The History of Middle-Earth Volume X) and The Peoples of Middle-Earth (aka: The History of

    Middle-Earth Volume XII
    ).

    "I dissent, even at the risk of being held incorrect or not sober."


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    Sep 16 2014, 10:23pm

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    Btw, have you read about the Dwarves and Thingol in the Silm?



    And Eruvandi, I believe you said somewhere recently that you were starting to see, in your reading, similarities between Thranduil and Thingol. So I started looking out for this too, and yes a few things are clear. Same race, silver hair, a load of pride, guarded borders n a hidden realm, gem-hunger (though lusting for a Silmaril is really just asking for it), a penchant for underground palaces, and an only child.

    I wondered if, in creating his palace along the lines of Menegroth, Thranduil was (consciously or subconsciously) following an instinct set by the great Sindarin king, Then I came across the handy Ask Middle Earth post on this topic (under the Gems of Pure Starlight heading, and also right at end of page.

    What surprised me here too was that the Prologue sequence may actually refer to the quarrel between Thingol and the Dwarves re Nauglamir treasure. I did not know that / did not perceive it when reading.



    "Thou speakest of thralldom. If thralldom it be, thou canst not escape it..."


    Kerewyn
    Rohan


    Sep 16 2014, 10:26pm

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    (it was in the last TAXII which had tipped, so I couldn't reply! )

    And...
    I am overjoyed about these extended scenes.Heart I knew it! SmileSmile



    "Thou speakest of thralldom. If thralldom it be, thou canst not escape it..."

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    Lurker in the Mirk
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    Sep 17 2014, 1:25am

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         LoL VValar... you're not minding the rules DanielB laid out [In reply to]  

    DoS only, and must be official still or BTS... I like the two movie still you provided. But then I like every frame of ThranduilAngelic

    le classic Thranduil image forever more eh? Heart http://images6.fanpop.com/...36074091-612-380.jpg
    Delish!http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/...olation-of-smaug.jpg



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    Sep 17 2014, 1:30am

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         *waves* Purrs and headbutts for the sassy one in your avatar =) [In reply to]  

    Glad you could join in again.Smile Have a Sassy Pie of Thranduil! Sly



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    Lurker in the Mirk
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    Sep 17 2014, 1:38am

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    Well, this thread is certainly off to a good start!

    The last ones, at times felt like there's just VValar and me, ya'knowCrazy



    In Reply To
    Hopefully my assignment load will lighten up soon so I can actually participate.Unsure

    Crossed fingers!

    Thranduil commiserates




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    Anyway, that Botfa banner is pretty great isn't it? Good to see Bubba, or at least a descendent of Bubba is back!Angelic Gah! I can't wait for this movie!Laugh

    Wasn't there a quote from LP saying the most difficult stunt he ever did was stay on his elk in TH?Laugh I'm hoping there's a BTS showing how they made Moose into Bubba, and I wanna see LP/Thranduill offscreen interaction with Moose!Heart


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    Sep 17 2014, 1:39am

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    I'm quietly hopeful the in-movie extensions give us mwoar Thranduil as well.Evil




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    Lurker in the Mirk
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    Sep 17 2014, 1:43am

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         Hear, hear, fellow-Thralls! Abide rules or risk losing views of Pretty! [In reply to]  

    Thanks for the reminder, Altaira. Well, for mine, they're uploaded into the posts as attachments so they're compliant in terms of file size anyway, but I will start taking note of the pixel size onscreen as well.

    ... hmmm maybe time to re-collate the previous posting notes on posting for Thralls' benefit. I'll take care of it.

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    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 17 2014, 2:13am

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         All sorts of thoughts too. But first, way cool avatar! [In reply to]  

    That was fast! *thumbs up*



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    You know I've never paid close attention to see if Legolas uses the reverse grip on his blades. I might have to rewatch all of his fighting scenes from LOTR and DOS to find out. But it would make sense he is able to use this technique for the reason you just stated: he has the best teacher in all of ME! And I'm sure Thranduil would have learned his son a trick or two on how to -stylishly- smash and hack any Orc in two.

    In LotR (TH too I think), he definitely does quite a bit of twirl on his arrows when he uses them for close-quarter stabs. Maybe an adaptation of daddy's uber-cool sword movesHeart But his knifework, not so much reverse grips, though he don't really do a lot of fancy two-knife-at-once fighting so I'm guessing he might not be quite as ambidextrous as Thranduil. Frankly, Legolas doesn't seem to be that much of a two-sword/knife Elf overall. Noticed in his fight with Bolg, he favoured heavily the two-handed grip on Orcrist... could just be the need for brute hacking force against the brute, and to brace against the brunt of the brute's brute force *shrug* To me, his sword-fighting form just doesn't have that razzle-dazzle of Heartdaddy Tongue Anyway, I hope/think we'll see more double-knife and reverse-grip knifework from Legolas in BotFA.



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    You were also right about the appreciating of the father/son combo, thanks for putting that up Heart It's funny that in his surprised look, Thranduil resembles Legolas more than I have seen him in any other picture imo. It's that face he's making, I've seen Leggy make that same face a couple of times throughout the films.

    hmm... *looks at pics again* you may be on to something there. I guess the FLAST quotient doesn't vary far from the sourceLaughTongueAngelic



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    Oh and of course I'm really liking the OP picture of Thranduil including the quote. I like reading passages concerning the Elvenking from TH very much since they're alll new to me. It is a really good way to start number 13 Smile (and I like that it's the first image I see when I click on the thread).

    Cool! There's not a lot of
    Elvenking quotes in TH, and I'm in glee at the occasion to slap one onCool



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    Hmm about the MAAD... I know what you mean. It is a clever find but somehow it's missing that nice ring to it Unsure We'll need to invent another witty name for the not-so-loving relationship the Dwarves and Elves have developed with each other. Btw, have you read about the Dwarves and Thingol in the Silm?

    Yeah... needs another lightning strike to make the right one jump out I guess.

    Vaguely remembers Thingol and Dwarves, but have not got there yet so more to come! Maybe I'll get hit with a clever alternative for MAAD when I get there Angelic



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    Had not yet seen it Heart!
    Is he preparing for an attack when he hears the commotion behind him?

    I'd hazard a guess here: Thranduil's troops may have just overcome some orcs on the way which accounts for the drawn sword. And as they're riding through the aftermath he hears something that makes him turn around.



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    Yep, too bad they did such a poor job on her. Ah well, it's a good thing they didn't mess up the Mirkwood Royals, they don't need a whole lot of photoshopping. Their natural beauty should not be tempered with HeartMad

    After all the time and effort the team put on making Tauriel such a big part of the story, they allow this sort of crap through... I don't get it. Oh well.

    Yes, that goes without sayingAngelic



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    I do like the Galadriel/Gandalf image, unlike you Tongue I'm not getting a awkward lovers-type of-feel with the two of them, more like a very affectionative relationship between two dear friends. I think Galadriel is very happy with Celeborn, who is awesome and who keeps her in check Evil I think (hope) the Dol Guldur scene is going to rock, not only visually but also emotionally. The only thing I do find awkward is Elrond and Saruman just standing there looking lame in de background lol.

    I'm sure Gladdy is thoroughly happy with hubby. But the image utterly ho-hum to me. Maybe I'm just too inundated through my growing years to appreciate it as anything but, because it is just such a requisite plot device of tear-inducing mawk in asian movies/tv for star-crossed lovers who encounter OBSTACLES. Doesn't help to have Elrond and Saruman standing around like the reviled purveyors of LOVERS' OBSTACLES. All that's missing on them are villainously arched eyebrows (lascivious smirks optional). This emotive scene must be in the lovers' photo-album of eternal love before they pass the test of all tests along the path to true love.Evil *retch* OK... memory wipe timeTongue


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    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 17 2014, 2:25am

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         FLASTered FEASTING... equals indigestion? [In reply to]  


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    Loving the FEASTING (Flustered Elrond And Sassy Thranduil, Including Not-impressed Galadriel). Lol it's amazing how you come up with such things Tongue I already know a FEAST (The First European Air Traffic Controller Selection Test) but since that's so totally different from anything Sassy Thranduil related, I'm sure I won't mix them up. Yeey we've got another one for the Lexicon!

    *modest* Well, I like word gamesEvil And there was a sci-fi book that just impressed the hell out of me with its clever acronyms and shorthand. I look to it (in the dusty vaults of my mem) as inspiration when I'm stumped for clever stuff. I mean imagine making the word PROLETARIAT (maybe PROLETARIAN) totally represent some fearsome autocratic(?) society and the full name not only makes sense, it flows and fit the society and the story's vibe as well. And that's just one example. That book was amazing in my (now) vague impression, and quite an enjoyable read. Too bad, I forgot the actual book title or even story already.



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    In that light, how do you like these?
    (Oh and I was too lazy to resize them so they're clicky's)
    (And it doesn't really involve a very flustered Elrond or a not so impressed Galadriel, but Thranduil is as Sassy as ever and well, I thought these images might fit the FEASTING description) Tell me what you think!

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/...C0U1r38rxfo2_500.jpg
    http://25.media.tumblr.com/...0U1r38rxfo3_1280.jpg


    hahaha! So much for Elven-ruler dignity. Tsk, tsk, Elrond and Gladdy!

    On that note... http://hobbits.co.vu/...-immortal-wisest-and TongueLaugh

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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 17 2014, 2:33am

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         hello lurker, kerwyn and fellow thralls [In reply to]  

    These threads give me such joy. And to anybody discovering joy of Silm. now I have to force my blabbermouth shut. I do think that great prof. Tolkien hearkened back to menegroth when creating and referencing thranduil's halls in the Hobbit. Also I love the images you guys share and the fan art also. Waves hi to all !


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    Sep 17 2014, 2:35am

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         Do you doubt it? [In reply to]  

    After the teaser, I think no one can say there's only one. Smile All the more for teh awesome!Heart



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    Dang I didn't know the sword was THAT long.

    LP/Thranduil is tall... here's an illustration pic fer yaAngelicHeart




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    Two badass swords to rock BOFA with Heart The excitement I have for these swords is barely contained!!

    Oh yeah! And I wanna know, when he's not running about in armour and being badass warrior, where does he keep sword no 2? Cos he sure ain't unarmed, and we see in DoS he'd wear one of them. Does he rotate them or something when at home? Questions, questions!


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    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


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    Sep 17 2014, 2:38am

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         Prolly has to be quick work? [In reply to]  


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    I wonder how long it took the person to do that cup of coffee.

    Before the bubbles/foam goes flat?



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    Don't think this is Thranduil, might be Legolas? Anyway, I think it's cool

    Liking the medieval tapestry feel of this



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    This somehow reminds me of a younger prince Thranduil

    Yeah, agreed!







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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
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    Sep 17 2014, 2:53am

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         ooooh, your copypasta does a thing of beauty [In reply to]  

    makes my response look like some clever verseSlyAngelicHeart



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    Thanks for bringing a bit of that thread here. (I need the assistance!) But Don't rely on me for actual knowledge. Tongue I tend to remember just enough of what I've read to be dangerous. Almost anything I say online is all just my opinion of the fragments that Christopher Tolkien has doled out to drive us all crazy, and as I'm also taking the movieverse into consideration, my opinion might change drastically after viewing The Battle Of The Five Armies (or even the DoS:EE).

    You're welcome! I guess we do need a little tutorial on how to bring a threadbit forward since we're always coming up against threadlock. *adds to list of to-do*

    LoL... and I hope he eventually unearths AND SHARE something substantive about Thranduil's genealogy

    We can always revisit this topic after BotFA... post EE sounds about right, don't you think?Smile



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    I don't know if fear lose cognizance (or if being younger/lesser would make Sylvan hroar burn up more quickly or make Sylvan

    fear more prone to that kind of degradation) but I do remember that fear who refuse the call to Mandos were all supposed to be a bit

    evil, something I equate with "less wise and more dangerous" ;-) And I'm not convinced that any of the elves would lose their purpose,

    even if they did lose their hroar. I picture them whooping it up at starlight festivals in perpetuity.

    Good points. Though I thought I read about the diminishment of their powers of reason in pure wandering fear form, I could be dreaming of course. And I'm just getting the lower-in-the-totem-pole means more slipshoddy quality of being vibe from how the Silm depicts thingsEvil



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    There are still places in the world today where you can get Lost In The Wilderness, but I don't think the elves would need an

    excess of woods. They are patient and crafty, they certainly know how to hide from beings who aren't looking for them. (Only the Very

    Unlucky would actually stumble across them. Those are the kind of Elves Tolkien loved to read tales of.) (OT: I wish we knew what the

    twins would be like in the movieverse. I've always picture them being a bit like Fred and George Weasley.)

    Oh I know! I'd imagine we should give it another 50 years, I have faith in our ability to totally wreck mother nature's air-con system on time and on targetUnimpressed

    Lost me about the OT on the twins... who be these folks?



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    Yeah, I'm pretty sure a bodily death earns you a seat in the waiting room that is Mandos. I'm also pretty sure that the loss of

    hoar would initiate a call, and once you've passed on it, you lose that seat in the waiting room that is Mandos. And I think an Elf can

    only be reincarnated if there's an Elven baby being born on Arda. (Not likely if only fear are left on Arda.) But I'm not sure that

    Thranduil would be worried about family if he knew they were safely tucked away in Valinor. (And I want to believe my Elvenking is in

    the wood in my backyard, so... Tongue)

    Won't there be babies born in the West, which is still on Arda, anyways? Though it seems to have a bit of a creepy vibe to have Elves be reborn into another family given the connotations assorted with the idea of rebirth in Tolkien's world/faith. To me, it's cool, karma and rebirth are par for course, at least in mythical and folklore terms, in my neck of the racial/cultural woods. Smile

    I think the pull of actually being with family will at some point get to Thranduil. Plus there's the call of the Sea, right? If it affects us so positively as this article says, I can imagine the uberly amplified effect on Elves, and especially Thranduil, after all that time resisting it. All that promise of goodness and healing...



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    Ditto! Though I'm hunting down some of the quotes I think I remember. I'm pretty sure most of them came out of Morgoth's Ring:

    The Later Silmarillion Part One
    (aka: The History of Middle-Earth Volume X) and The Peoples of Middle-Earth (aka: The History of

    Middle-Earth Volume XII
    ).

    Sounds a bit like Quenya to me Laugh But I'm noting them all down for future reference. Thanks!


    And so glad you're back to talk "serious", vanima! *HUGS*


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    Sep 17 2014, 2:59am

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         oooh... thought you saw the reply DanielB made to VValar here [In reply to]  

    So I wondered if you replied to the wrong post.Evil

    Anyway, there's a method to this madness, which I was just mentioning in my reply to vanima maybe a little tutorial's in order.

    Basically, you can click the "Reply To This Post" link on any post. But, and this will make more sense if you view in Threaded Mode, your reply is appended to the post you replied to. So if you're not replying to the topic in the particular sub-thread, your response might get lost in the clutter. So, and this is probably particular to TA, if you're continuing a conversation from the last thread, the best option, imo, is to click the "Reply To This Post" link on the OP. This makes your post a starting point right under the OP, and is more visible in the nested view of the Threaded Mode. Hope this makes sense.

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    Sep 17 2014, 3:00am

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         Thanks! I'm enjoying it thus far [In reply to]  

    actually my second reading,but it was so long ago, I might as well have just read some vague cliffnotes before embarking on this venture. Smile

    It's cool though, the excitement of Kerewyn's maiden read.

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    Sep 17 2014, 3:02am

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         Hello! And cool to get a Silm reader here [In reply to]  

    Do share your thoughts!Smile

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    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 17 2014, 4:53am

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    Lol, I can already see that happening. Did you notice his Elk in front of his paddle boat? That animal never leaves his side it seems in these type of images, I guess Thranduil is very fond of it.
    Heart

    That Elk is to Thranduil Robin is to Batman perhaps? Or Silver to the Lone Ranger?

    Question though: If the Elk and Legolas were in the same quicksand, who would Thranduil save? aka would you vote for FLAST or TEAM (Thranduil Elvenking and Moose)?CrazyTongue


    Bubba, according Eruvandi, is the nickname of the Elk given by TORn staffers. He doesn't have a screenname as far we know. His actor, the horse, is really named Moose though. There's a quote about it from LP himself somewhere.


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    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 17 2014, 5:51am

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         Addendum: The Elk is Moose quote [In reply to]  

    You might already have seen it but here goes:

    Quote

    CLICK: One person online actually asked what the name of the elk you’re riding was.

    LP: Actually there’s an actor playing the Elk you should ask. It’s a horse named Moose. Playing the elk.
    (source)

    Always loved the thought of a horse named Moose playing the War-Elk.Heart



    Supremely OT: In the process of looking this quote up, came across this... clearing up RA's preference in the perennial dog or cat question. Had me tickled given the abundance of wrongly assumed love for the one.Laugh Prolly an impressive swathe of his fandom's broke at his thoughts on the assumed preference too.


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    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Lurker in the Mirk
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    Sep 17 2014, 9:34am

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         IMPORTANT README for TA posters: Information on posting, and adding images [In reply to]  

    Fellow Thralls, and non-Thrall appreciators of Thranduil,
    Truly, we all know, or should, the aim of TA is FUN and communal appreciation of Thranduil. Far be it for any of our posts and replies to be regimented, for style defies cramping. But even so, we have to toe some TORn lines, and be good TORNsibs; lines that may be particular to TA due to the nature of the TORn boards and the TA threads being a running thread artificially broken into multi-parts for server and system performance reasons (and perhaps reading convenience).

    In that light, and in response to the second general reminder-to-all from the MODs through 13 threads we've got, this consolidation of how-tos and wherewithal will hopefully keep our little corner of TORn haven compliant and free of Wrath of Mod.



    The TA (very) Quickie Help/TIPS for adding IMAGES and POSTING
    The TORn FAQ on the "Welcome To TORn" forum is a great start for all questions actually, from making a post, adding Pretty! to asking for post edit and MUCH MUCH more.
    • First, check the editor mode you're on when posting, Basic or Advanced. Ref 2.8 Replying to posts seems slower than on the old boards. Can I speed it up?
    • Specifically for image posting, ref 2.20 How do I add a picture to a post? and 2.21 How do I upload an attachment? Also, read 2.22 How do I add a link to a post? (NOTE: It's a lot easier to use Advanced Editor unless you're familiar with HTML and webpage coding. Then Markup Help is your friend. See also 2.9 How can I get markup help?
    • For help with post edit/deletion, ref 2.24 Oops! I made a mistake in my post … can I fix it? and 2.25 Why can’t I edit and/or delete my post?

    That's the longcut.



    IMAGES
    In summary:
    • DON'T hotlink images aka use a non TORn url to directly add an image in your post. If the source image's URL changes, we lose Pretty! view in a snap
    • Upload images to your post, AND THEN add them in the places where you want Pretty! to show; ALWAYS bearing in mind TORn guidelines on size and numbers of Pretty! allowed per post

    If you want a shortcut on how to post images, do as Kim sez in her post. If you want to get fancy on the Pretty! check out Avandel's post with information on software and options for image manipulation. Avandel's post also has information on TORn's guidelines about image size and so on. Still, it's recommended that you're on Advanced Editor mode to help doing any of these things less painful.
    [TIP: To check if the image you see online needs to be resized to fit TORn guidelines, rightclick on the image. Depending on your browser, you should see an option to the effect of "View Image Information" or "Properties". Click on it and a new little window pops up. Somewhere on it you will see the image size.]

    As for making an image clickable, it's easy - basically it's the same process as making text a clickable link. As you would with making clickable text in your post, you need to have an image you can select in your post. So:
    1. Get your image onto your post
    2. Select/highlight the image. Make sure you're selecting the right thing
    3. Click on the "Link" icon on the edit bar, and paste the url of the image in the pop up window, then click Submit
    4. Viola!Smile


    POSTING-REPLYING TO THE APPROPRIATE POST vs CONTINUING A CONVERSATION FROM LOCKED TAs
    Basically, you can click the "Reply To This Post" link on any post. But, and this will make more sense if you view in Threaded Mode, your reply is appended to the post you replied to. So if you're not replying to the topic in the particular sub-thread, your response might get lost in the clutter.

    So, and this is particular to TA, if you're continuing a conversation from the last thread, the best option, imo, is to click the "Reply To This Post" link on the current thread's OP, as you would when starting a new TA discussion topic. This makes your post a starting point right under the OP, and is more visible in the nested view of the Threaded Mode. Additionally, to help others understand the background of the ongoing conversation, you could also post a link back to the post your post is addressing. To do so:
    1. Go to the post you are replying to in the old TA.
    2. On the left column of the post, under the poster's avatar, you should see a "Shortcut".
    3. Right-click on that and copy the link.
    4. Then paste that link as desired into the post you are composing.

    SPACE
    The void is your friend. Kim mentioned in her post one important trick is to hit the space bar a few times before adding an image. I find this helps when using the other tools on the edit bar too. Specifically the "Quote" icon. Always be sure you have an <Enter> before AND after your quote. So basically you will hit <ENTER> 3 times, place your cursor on the middle <ENTER> line before you do a quotey. That way, you can add more stuff before and after your quote instead of having everything in a quote mosh.


    AVOIDING GENERIC POST-DEATH
    The ether throws a tantrum at times. The worst that can happen is have your lovingly composed post that you spent the last 3 hours on swallowed up when you click "Post Reply", or even just "Preview". My suggestion is to make a habit of copying your post before you hit either button. That way, you're not thrown into anguish from something beyond anyone's control.



    AVOIDING POST-DEATH FROM THREADLOCK
    Threadlock is the other possible cause of post-death. And threadlock is realz. When we get near or past the 200post count, posting can be quite the walk on the ledge, because at anytime a mod may swoop in and close it forevah. We can still post until then, but if you don't want to chance losing your post before it's seen light of day, in addition to copying it to a word processor first, check the status of the thread and also "Who's Online" before you hit the "Post Reply" button. That way, even you were visited with the misfortune of cosmic confluence, you can still post, but in the new thread.

    How to check thread status and "Who's Online" at the same time you're writing your magnus opus? Simple, open 2 additional tabs on your browser, and set one to view the forum (or the thread itself), and the other to view "Who's Online". I call them my watch pages Smile
    [TIP: Remember to refresh those watch-pages for the latest status if you've got them open for a while.]


    Finally, I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Posting and adding images/links can be daunting at first, (and I considers meself good with getting tech stuff). But isn't everything? So hang in there and just try again if the first try didn't work.

    Thanks for helping make Thranduil Appreciation an ongoing enjoyment for all, even those TORnsibs who want nothing to do with us.Smile


    humbly,
    lurker in the mirk





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    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 17 2014, 2:06pm

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         Thanks, Lurker! [In reply to]  

    That covers any of the Admins' concerns, and then some. Great instructions. Smile


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    Sep 17 2014, 2:14pm

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         Hi from a [up 'til now] silent thread visitor [In reply to]  

    My first ever post [eek]. Just thought I'd confess to being one of the silent thread visitors. I have to say I have been enjoying these hugely entertaining and informative posts for a little while now, so thank you. I think I ought to make a little contribution - some fan art I found that I don't remember seeing so far. However, being rather computer dyslexic I have no idea whether this will work, so fingers crossed. Hope it works and hope you like them

    http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/wilkimar/media/Th601_zpsef3c354b.jpg.html
    http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/wilkimar/media/Th600_zpsbe0ed50e.jpg.html
    http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/wilkimar/media/Th602_zpsd06d117d.jpg.html
    http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/wilkimar/media/Th603_zps80b5c933.jpg.html


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    Sep 17 2014, 2:38pm

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         Welcome, welcome, and thrice welcome! [In reply to]  

    Hello mariel! It's always great to hear from one of our silent visitors because that means we get to spread the Thranduil appreciation even further.Cool Thanks so much for the fan art! I haven't seen them before and they're very nice!

    As always, if you (or any other silent visitorsWink) want to join in on the discussions, we'd be happy to include you. The more the merrier!Smile

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    Mist and shadow
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    Sep 17 2014, 3:37pm

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    Yeah, she looks odd. Actually, that star-crossed lovers reaching across an impossible chasm vibe of Ganddy and Glady isn't impressing me either. Elrond standing there looking all justified just makes him look like the jerk who came between them.CrazyTongue

    Yeah, they made some *interesting* juxtaposition choices for the tapestry. I don't think Tauriel looks quite as odd as some people do, but something is not quite right.

    As for Ganddy and Glady, well, I like pretty much anything with Galadriel in it, but I have to wonder why she and Gandalf are on the ground, reaching out to each other. I honestly doubt that this actual action be in the movie, though. I figure they just did a photo shoot and put it in the tapestry to add drama and hint at how they're fighting the darkness together and trying to help each other.

    With Elrond, from a distance it does look like he's the jerk who came between them, lolTongue, but if you zoom in on him, you can see that he's actually looking off to the left, not at Galadriel and Gandalf. I notice that the smoke/dust and leaves seem to be blowing from that direction too, so maybe something wicked this way comes?Wink

    "Home is behind the world ahead
    And there are many paths to tread
    Through shadow to the edge of night
    Until the stars are all alight.

    Mist and shadow
    Cloud and shade
    All shall fade
    All shall fade"



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    Sep 17 2014, 3:38pm

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         One more thing... [In reply to]  

    I always thought that quoting pictures within a post [using either the quotation marks or the 'Re:' tools] was generally frowned upon, too, for a couple reasons, but the most obvious one in these threads is the clutter factor. It can be really hard to follow conversations here when you have to visually sift through the many layers to find the new content with a lot of scrolling, especially for those reading in 'flat' mode. Editing out the pic content from your citations can really help with that, and might even gain you some thread participants. =)

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    Sep 17 2014, 5:53pm

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         Oh woops sorry Daniel [In reply to]  

    Lurker just informed me I didn't really paid close attention to the rules set for these images. I guess I got too excited and forgot to properly read the guidelines Angelic

    Anyway, did you find at least one that was to your liking/according tot he guidelines?
    If not, I'm happy to search for any that are Smile


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    Sep 17 2014, 6:04pm

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         It's very interesting to compare them [In reply to]  


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    And Eruvandi, I believe you said somewhere recently that you were starting to see, in your reading, similarities between Thranduil and Thingol. So I started looking out for this too, and yes a few things are clear. Same race, silver hair, a load of pride, guarded borders n a hidden realm, gem-hunger (though lusting for a Silmaril is really just asking for it), a penchant for underground palaces, and an only child.


    My thoughts exactly! You know, I was actually *this* close to starting a post with the very same title, but you beat me to it.Wink It's probably for the best because I had no idea where to start anyway!Smile

    Re the Prologue referring to Thingol/the dwarves' quarrel: I had heard about that. I'm not sure I entirely understand it, but in this article, Mr. Michael Martinez does seem to be saying that the Elvenking in The Hobbit book was originally intended to allude to Thingol, but then Tolkien changed him to Thranduil later. When he did so, he made it so that we are actually being told about two Elvenkings, Thranduil and Thingol.

    Michael's exact words:

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    "Here we are told about two Elf-kings, Thranduil and Thingol, but the segue between them is so vague that many readers are confused by it. John Rateliff discussed this conundrum at length in The History of the Hobbit and his summation of the problem works out to (in my own words) the Elven-king of The Hobbit is both King Thingol of Doriath and some lesser Elf-king. The hows and whys of that conclusion are too complicated to dwell upon here. Canonically (if I may use that word with respect to any of Tolkien’s stories) the Elven-king of the formally published texts is NOT Thingol of Doriath; hence, the anecdote in The Hobbit must be treated as two anecdotes.


    In other words, Thranduil never fought a war with Dwarves so far as can be shown from the published Tolkien texts. In a pre-publication conception where he was sort of Thingol it could be said that he did fight such a war (maybe). The Hobbit is definitely connected to The Silmarillion in terms of conception but Tolkien consciously separated the two stories at least by the time he prepared the book for publication, if not earlier.


    But this leaves us with a jewel-loving Wood Elf king and I think that Peter Jackson and his collaborators wrote this confusing background tale into the film’s story arc as succinctly as possible. Bilbo’s narrative does not agree with the published texts because the Jackson writing team was elaborating on minor elements of the book, creating a conflict that would work within the story they wanted to tell."


    With all that in mind, it seems to me that PJ and co. are actually aware of this and are intentionally making allusions to Thingol in their design for Thranduil. For example, in the book, it is specifically stated that Thranduil has golden hair, but in the movie his hair is more silver, just like Thingol's hair. Also, let me do a little comparison between some of Thranduil's lines during the "One king to another" scene and some things that Thingol and Beren say to each other in chapter 19 of the Silm.

    In the movie, Thranduil says to Thorin, in reference to the Arkenstone:

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    "It is precious to you beyond measure. [..] There are gems within the mountain that I too desire."



    Now, in chapter 19 of the Silm, Thingol interrogates Beren, IMO, very similarly to how Thorin gets interrogated by Thranduil in the movie: Guards take him forcibly out of the forest and bring him before the King so that the King can ask him, what in the name of Eru is he doing in his realm? After he regains his courage, Beren responds:

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    "My fate, O King, led me hither, through perils such as few even of the Elves would dare. And here I have found what I sought not indeed, but finding I would possess for ever. For it [Luthien] is above all gold and silver, and beyond all jewels. Neither rock, nor steel, nor the fires of Morgoth, nor all the powers of the Elf-kingdoms, shall keep from me the treasure that I desire."


    Sounds an awful lot like Luthien is "precious to him beyond measure", does it not? Admittedly, Beren and Luthien's thing for each other is much more romantic than Thorin's thing for the Arkenstone, but still...Tongue

    Then, a little while later, Thingol responds:

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    "See now! I too desire a treasure that is withheld."


    Now that sounds familiar! "I too desire a treasure [silmarills] that is withheld."..."There are gems within the mountain that I too desire."

    I hope I'm making sense because I know these connections are pretty vague, but if PJ really is making allusions to the Silm, they would have to be vague since he doesn't have the rights to the Silm. Either way, IMO, there are too many connections between movie-Thranduil and Thingol for it to be entirely coincidental.

    What do you all think?

    "Home is behind the world ahead
    And there are many paths to tread
    Through shadow to the edge of night
    Until the stars are all alight.

    Mist and shadow
    Cloud and shade
    All shall fade
    All shall fade"



    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 17 2014, 6:08pm

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    Angelic

    Promotional image (with The Cape Heart)
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/...il+Swishing+Cape.jpg

    https://belikewaterproduction.files.wordpress.com/...e-pace-thranduil.jpg


    Screencap
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/...e-pace-1920x1080.jpg

    https://atolkienistperspective.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/thranduil.jpg

    Better? Shocked


    Eruvandi
    Tol Eressea


    Sep 17 2014, 6:12pm

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    It's my maiden read too, after all.Wink

    I agree, it is very exciting and I'm loving the feeling of discovering something new. I can't get enough!Cool

    "Home is behind the world ahead
    And there are many paths to tread
    Through shadow to the edge of night
    Until the stars are all alight.

    Mist and shadow
    Cloud and shade
    All shall fade
    All shall fade"



    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 17 2014, 6:14pm

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    I'm quietly hopeful the in-movie extensions give us mwoar Thranduil as well.Evil



    Only two more months....


    Eruvandi
    Tol Eressea


    Sep 17 2014, 6:56pm

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    Am still chuffed to realise Thranduil's sword is drawn!Heart

    Until you said it I hadn't noticed that Thranduil's sword is drawn! Wow! I wonder if he was about to charge into battle or something?Shocked



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    Oh the bigger surprise is how long we continued to roll after tipping. Too bad we missed another chance to make a run for 250 posts Frown


    Well, IIRC, the very first Thranduil appreciation thread actually got to 400 posts before the Mods realized just how obsessive we all really are.Tongue I think that one more than made up for the lack of 250-post-threads now. Still, we can always try.Smile

    "Home is behind the world ahead
    And there are many paths to tread
    Through shadow to the edge of night
    Until the stars are all alight.

    Mist and shadow
    Cloud and shade
    All shall fade
    All shall fade"



    Eruvandi
    Tol Eressea


    Sep 17 2014, 7:02pm

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    Wha.. what...wait! That tipped faster than an elven blade - I'm still wading happily through a plethora of WW links! Still, better a Thrandy overload than... not. Wink

    I was trying to read the posts in the TAXII thread from top to bottom in threaded mode, but I don't think I was much more than halfway down the page when it tipped. I'd like to keep up a little better this time around!


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    (someone threw a stone bounced off Babba's antler, and he's like "now cut that out!") Tongue

    Perfect description!Wink

    "Home is behind the world ahead
    And there are many paths to tread
    Through shadow to the edge of night
    Until the stars are all alight.

    Mist and shadow
    Cloud and shade
    All shall fade
    All shall fade"



    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 17 2014, 7:18pm

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    HeartBlushHeart



    Bigger version: https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...96a5&oe=54CA9C38

    EDIT, not sure if it's official or fan made, but it's nice to look at Angelic


    (This post was edited by VValar on Sep 17 2014, 7:29pm)


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 17 2014, 7:41pm

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    When I saw the new Pretty! with his armour, glossy hair and intense look *sigh* I knew I just had to have it as my new avatar Heart Thanks for noticing!

    Yes I guess you're right about Legolas' fighting style. I rewatched the clip where he fights Bolg and other than him unsheathing his sword in a Daddy-like aweseome manner, he seems to fight very differently with his two-handed grip.


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    To me, his sword-fighting form just doesn't have that razzle-dazzle of Heartdaddy Tongue

    LOL razzle-dazzle Cool

    Anyway, I hope/think we'll see more double-knife and reverse-grip knifework from Legolas in BotFA.




    Let's hope, that would be another thing to look forward to! Though I would still be in my fangirl mode if he pulls something like this: http://img.gawkerassets.com/...rfvipng/original.png

    Ah maybe the whole Galadriel/Gandalf scene won't be as bad as you might think right now. Just wait and give it a honest chance in december Tongue


    Edit: typos typos


    (This post was edited by VValar on Sep 17 2014, 7:51pm)


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 17 2014, 8:03pm

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    If you happen to remember the title of that book, let me know. I still have some Silm reading to do but this sounds like an interesting read as well.



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    Heh that's a bit embarrassing for those poor Elves. Not so fair now! Reminds me of the occassional 'fb surprise tag' my friends put up when I haven't had the chance to delete them in time.


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 17 2014, 8:11pm

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    That's insane. No one that tall can fit in such a tiny car Shocked

    And re your question about where Thranduil keeps his second sword when not in battle. I've been wondering that same thing. I think he wears the one at home (as we see in DOS) and probably dusts off the other one when going to batlle. Or when he steps outside his Halls to explore the more dangerous parts of Mirkwood. When not in use, he might keep his second sword by his nightstand? Smile


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 17 2014, 8:33pm

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    Question though: If the Elk and Legolas were in the same quicksand, who would Thranduil save? aka would you vote for FLAST or TEAM (Thranduil Elvenking and Moose)?CrazyTongue

    Ahh trick question. Of course Thrandy would save his beloved Moose. Leggy can take care of himself I'm sureAngelic So yeey team TEAM! Ha that does sound a bit strange.



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    CLICK: One person online actually asked what the name of the elk you’re riding was.

    LP: Actually there’s an actor playing the Elk you should ask. It’s a horse named Moose. Playing the elk.
    (source)


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    Always loved the thought of a horse named Moose playing the War-Elk.Heart


    Thanks for the quote. I had read it a while ago but I'd stored that info somewhere in a deep and sleepy corner of my mind and forgot all about it. It's some weird name to give your horse but obviously it suits him just fine.


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 17 2014, 8:54pm

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    I might need to read your post a little more carefully. I think I might be one of the posters who don't always follow the guidelines precisely (unintentionally of course, but I dó normally check if my img size is below 500 w/h). It's just that I always seem to have a bit of a discussion with the buttons and it keeps on messing up my text when I use the quote/reply button and it sure as hell doesn't work when I want to post an image/link the conventional way. Making clicky's is a bit of a challenge as well and after 3 times I usually give up. But that's after I have put up a massive temper tantrum whishing all the clicky's I'm about to make a very slow and painful death. Of course... none of these problems are any of my fault Angelic Nooooo way, of course not. I love the internet and the internet loves me so it must be the evil board buttons in compliance with my devilish laptop. But perhaps I'll have more luck with it when I actually start reading the board's manual (it's just sad the textbox incl all the buttons isn't very user friendly at times).


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 17 2014, 9:10pm

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         Welcome mariel! [In reply to]  

    It's so good of you to have stepped into the light Cool And what a fine choice to grace the TA thread with your very first post!

    Thanks so much for the art, I haven't seen some of them before Heart
    The links aren't clicky's, but as you can read in the post righ above this one, I'm probably not the best person to explain how to make workable clicky's Mad Angelic Whenever I typ in an url into the textbox though, it automatically changes into a clicky so that's one thing I don't have to hassle with.



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    *THUD* Whoa...! We have a HTR (= High Thud Risk) alert for these type of images Heart It's sooooo pretty... I have made a img out of it. Hope you don't mind Angelic
    Soooooo HTR alert



    mariel
    Lorien

    Sep 17 2014, 9:32pm

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    Computers don't like me. Have to confess I struggled with the instructions. Glad you liked the artwork and thank you for posting the image for me.


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 17 2014, 9:43pm

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    Luckily you're not the only one with posting difficulties. There are some very dedicated and smart ppl around the TA thread that I'm sure will help you if you have any questions. Of course you can ask me as well but seeing as I find myself in the midst of a clicky-war Mad, I might not be the most suitable person to actually help you understand. But Lurker just posted a great topic called: IMPORTANT README for TA posters: Information on posting, and adding images. I think that might be good reading for the both of us.

    Btw I usually use [ i m g ]urlgoeshere[ / i m g ] but without the space to post a image. But *apparently* there is an easier way that might have something to do with clicking the image-button (second to your right) on top of this textbox.

    And we looooooves the artwork precioussssss. Don't hesitate to post more of the goodness Smile


    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 18 2014, 1:33am

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    Happy to have some applicable work-skill put to use. Not often that some cheek can be applied to writing these thingsTongue




    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 18 2014, 1:42am

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         *waves* Hi Mariel! [In reply to]  

    So glad you decided to show yourselfSmile



    Including VValar, I think that makes three of us former silent thread visitors that I know whose first TORn post is consecrated to the glory that is Thranduil the ElvenkingAngelicLaugh

    Pretty! is always welcome, as long as the Mods don't frown. You might want to refer to the README I just made on how to make clickable links and add images and try again with making the URLs live?

    Have fun and hope to see you around!Smile

    .




    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 18 2014, 1:47am

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    Btw I usually use [ i m g ]urlgoeshere[ / i m g ] but without the space to post a image. But *apparently* there is an easier way that might have something to do with clicking the image-button (second to your right) on top of this textbox.

    Not sure if I'm getting it correct, but seems like you're in basic editor mode? Well, if it's not by choice...
    Do you see a "Switch to Advanced Editor" button below the text input box?If you click that, you should see a bunch of icons at the top of the box like in Word, including icons for making URLs and adding images at the right end of the icon parade. Life might be easier using the Advanced Editor. Also you should be able to default your editor choice in your Profile. Check out the TORn FAQ for more instructions.

    If I'm poking my nose in for nothing, just ignoreSmile




    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 18 2014, 1:50am

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    Yeah, they made some *interesting* juxtaposition choices for the tapestry. I don't think Tauriel looks quite as odd as some people do, but something is not quite right.

    I dunno, it's freaking the hell outta meEvil



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    With Elrond, from a distance it does look like he's the jerk who came between them, lolTongue, but if you zoom in on him, you can see that he's actually looking off to the left, not at Galadriel and Gandalf. I notice that the smoke/dust and leaves seem to be blowing from that direction too, so maybe something wicked this way comes?Wink

    *scrunches eyes and studies Elrond* you're right! Interesting.

    i do hope that G&G pose is just for the tapestry. Otherwise it's gonna be just meh, to me, when it happens and I don't want meh in BotFAUnsure






    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 18 2014, 2:10am

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    ... how can any images in these threads be considered clutter?Tongue

    Seriously, I really don't get how quotes which include images is clutter unless quoting text itself is considered clutter. Because the QUOTE and REPLY features are doing their job, to me. I can clearly tell where a quote start and end, and where the poster's thoughts goes. Granted, it could be a problem if we start getting nested (or layering as you put it) quotes/reply to, but that problem with nested quotes you seem to encounter isn't that prevalent on these threads imo.

    My experience when I went through the first threads was painful as I was in Flat Mode and I had trouble understanding posts which alluded to images only. It was troublesome to go and find the preceding post the post I'm reading was replying to, and then go back to the post I was reading. All that back and forth was tiring. When I finally figured out Threaded Mode, the lack of images which posts alluded to was still a problem to me, though Threading made it so much easier to follow a conversation.

    Anyway, "clutter" seems so subjective. Because how can a conversation be tough to follow unless one was just cutting in mid-convo and didn't want to actually go and see what the preceding bits were? And I don't get why posters have to give special consideration to STV readers, flat-moders or not - you can lead a cow/camel to water and all that. There's plenty of "clutter" since thread one (which isn't just a TA phenomenon, imo), and silent thread visitors who didn't participate then aren't suddenly going to start now just cos, I don't think. *looks to STV gallery* Right? *silence* See?TongueSmile


    ETA: I'm rusty and shaky on servers/hosting and stuff but I'd think images that's been uploaded to TORn aren't the frown-causing concern to MODs when being quoted. *shrug*




    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    (This post was edited by Lurker in the Mirk on Sep 18 2014, 2:11am)


    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 18 2014, 2:14am

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    https://atolkienistperspective.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/thranduil.jpg

    Heart





    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 18 2014, 2:17am

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         Cos not! So glad to see you enjoying it [In reply to]  

    And you've been way more participative in the read-along activities, along with Kerewyn. Embarrassing to think I was the one who broached the read-along ideaEvil

    .




    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    (This post was edited by Lurker in the Mirk on Sep 18 2014, 2:17am)


    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 18 2014, 2:19am

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    There's still the EE... though the new trailer, while awesome, seem to suggest there may not be that much new in-movie Thranduil goodness after all, eh? *crossed fingers*




    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 18 2014, 2:25am

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    Until you said it I hadn't noticed that Thranduil's sword is drawn! Wow! I wonder if he was about to charge into battle or something?Shocked

    Just me own theoryTongue



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    Well, IIRC, the very first Thranduil appreciation thread actually got to 400 posts before the Mods realized just how obsessive we all really are.Tongue I think that one more than made up for the lack of 250-post-threads now. Still, we can always try.Smile

    Can we really break through the Girdle of ModlianTongue I remember reading the lockpost on #1 which said 300 is the limit, or some such higher than 200 number. Then when 2 got locked I was all agog, cos we were nowhere near that higher number - I think I had like 10 replies to vanima and you at that time and was wondering if it was something I didCrazyEvil. From #3 though, it's been consistently 200. I wonder if the 200 limit is to padding on considerations for imagesTongue

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    Sep 18 2014, 2:26am

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    I'd like to keep up a little better this time around!

    Smile






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    Sep 18 2014, 2:31am

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    And here's an officious announcement on it on one of the many movie news sites carrying it. Nice bit of background about Thranduil in it as well, though nothing we here don't already know.

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    Sep 18 2014, 2:37am

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    Well, Legolas, yeah, that florish was ok, but really, from the looks of it, he's just not a swordsman Evil Leave the badass warrior cool stuff to Daddy, kiddoTongue


    Though...

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    Let's hope, that would be another thing to look forward to! Though I would still be in my fangirl mode if he pulls something like this: http://img.gawkerassets.com/...rfvipng/original.png

    Yeah! I love that double-arrow stunt he pulled in Moria!Heart



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    Ah maybe the whole Galadriel/Gandalf scene won't be as bad as you might think right now. Just wait and give it a honest chance in december Tongue

    I really hope so! My mawk quotient has been blasted into oblivion a long long time ago thanks to all the overflowing and overused cheesy romantic devices on Asian TV.

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    Sep 18 2014, 2:44am

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    ... nope. Sorry. All I remember is it was written by a male author and is set in the space-travelling future. It was a grand cross-galaxy space epic... I do believe it had seriously funny satirical politics and was meant to be part of a series but I don't think I ever found the rest of it. Been too long since I read it Unimpressed... but I'll certainly keep thinking because I'd want to get my hands on it again too. Let you know if the lightbulb goes off.Smile



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    Heh that's a bit embarrassing for those poor Elves. Not so fair now! Reminds me of the occassional 'fb surprise tag' my friends put up when I haven't had the chance to delete them in time.

    Haha... though Thranduil's looks the least embarrassing, don't you think?AngelicTongue






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    Sep 18 2014, 2:58am

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    That's insane. No one that tall can fit in such a tiny car Shocked

    And he certainly fits in, though I think juuuuust.

    Just don't try to fit anyone in the backseat at the same time he's driving. Tongue

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    And re your question about where Thranduil keeps his second sword when not in battle. I've been wondering that same thing. I think he wears the one at home (as we see in DOS) and probably dusts off the other one when going to batlle. Or when he steps outside his Halls to explore the more dangerous parts of Mirkwood. When not in use, he might keep his second sword by his nightstand? Smile

    I'd think he's either
    - one of those pro-level people who's so attuned to each weapon he uses, he's particular about which sword goes where, and in that case, would only wear his main sword at home and yes, just dust off the secondary sword when he goes out for adventure
    - or he's equally comfortable with either sword in either hand, then he'd definitely be keeping the one out of rotation by his nightstandLaugh





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    Sep 18 2014, 3:02am

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    Ahh trick question. Of course Thrandy would save his beloved Moose. Leggy can take care of himself I'm sureAngelic So yeey team TEAM! Ha that does sound a bit strange.

    Good one! ... and yeah, I have my "moments"Tongue

    And you're welcome on the quote. Though I thought it apt a large horse is named Moose. In one book that I love, it features a very large dog that a character, out of convenience, calls Horse Sly





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    Sep 18 2014, 3:07am

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    Smile

    It can be a pain. But once you get the hang of it, you'd be fine. But yes, it's best to read the rules, once is good enough Angelic, and then get on with enjoying TA or whereever you fancy on the boards. I mean, if it was not in consideration of TORn guidelines, I reckon we'd be on something like thread #37 by now with all the WW goodies i'd be hotlinking like crazy. But to abide rules, and since it's such a pain to add an image for every clicky, I copped out and thus the WWsEvilTongue So yeah, we learn and adapt, and we all live happily after. THE END.




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    Sep 18 2014, 3:15am

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    The squigglies on your sig looks like a funky conga line going ever on and on when I'm viewing your post on my android phone. Just saying.Smile





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    Sep 18 2014, 3:26am

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    Heehee


    Liking the blend on this, though the choice of focus is mehTongue


    For the Leggy Lasses


    And one for ThranduilHeartHeartHeartHeartHeart Thralls





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    Sep 18 2014, 7:34am

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    After a bit of head scratching I think I've managed to make clickable links?

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    Sep 18 2014, 11:02am

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    Well, I seem to recall that Lee Pace has said that that's where he keeps his sword...

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    Sep 18 2014, 11:57am

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    Clearly, some evil is at work for even Thranduil's eyes so starlight bright were cheated by some spell.


    ... have to wonder though, does LP actually understand what he's potentially asking for?CrazyTongue




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    Sep 18 2014, 12:12pm

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    Excellent! Now you're well on your way to Pretty! purveyance notorietyTongueEvil

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    Sep 18 2014, 12:14pm

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    *impressed* And here I thought you only cared for that disagreeable DwarfTongue

    Thanks for that reminder, I'd forgotten thatEvil




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    Sep 18 2014, 12:55pm

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    I read that Michael Martinez article, among others, and if you look at the imagery we see in the AUJ EE prologue, the allusions are clear as the Silmarils.Smile

    And now that I've finished chappie20, I want to quote this paragraph that I found most interesting in its numerous parallels and contrasts all at once, in my still raw (re)impression of Thinggol and the parallel/counterfoil to Thranduil:

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    From Doriath came little help. For Maedhros and his brothers, being constrained by their oath, had before sent to Thingol and reminded him with haughty words of their claim, summoning him to yield the Silmaril, or become their enemy. Melian counselled him to surrender it; but the words of the sons of Fëanor were proud and threatening, and Thingol was filled with anger, thinking of the anguish of Lúthien and the blood of Beren whereby the jewel had been won, despite the malice of Celegorm and Curufin. And every day that he looked upon the Silmaril the more he desired to keep it for ever; for such was its power. Therefore he sent back the messengers with scornful words. Maedhros made no answer, for he had now begun to devise the league and union of the Elves; but Celegorm and Curufin vowed openly to slay Thingol and destroy his people, if they came victorious from war, and the jewel were not surrendered of free will. Then Thingol fortified the marches of his realm, and went not to war, nor any out of Doriath save Mablung and Beleg, who were unwilling to have no part in these great deeds. To them Thingol gave leave to go, so long as they served not the sons of Fëanor; and they joined themselves to the host of Fingon.

    - Quenta Silmarillion, Chapter 20, "Of the Fifth Battle: Nirnaeth Arnoediad"

    "From Doriath came little help". Just as the Dwarves got little help from Thranduil, so did the Feanorians get scant assistance from Thingol, though for vastly different reasons... well prima facie. Where Thranduil's stance was to not get involved in events that were foregone conclusions and risk unnecessary waste of his people's lives, Thingol's refusal stemmed from a quarrel, and stiff-necked pride. Prima facie, because I do believe, had the Dwarves not "betrayed" the contract and returned the White Gems to Thranduil, he might have felt a closer sense of alliance and be willing to proffer some assistance, even if he did not join the fray (which I still doubt he would in any case) directly.

    "And every day that he looked upon the Silmaril the more he desired to keep it for ever; for such was its power." The hold of the Simaril on Thingol was probably the stronger but Thranduil's thing for the White Gems surely was very strong in itself, though as I think it was you who pointed it out, Kerewyn, it wasn't that strong that Thranduil was motivated to go himself and get them out of the Smaug hoard. But for Thingol, it was strong enough that he refused to see the logic of going to war allied with the Feanorians if it meant relinquishing his claim on the Simaril.

    "Celegorm and Curufin vowed openly to slay Thingol and destroy his people, if they came victorious from war, and the jewel were not surrendered of free will." Antagonisms. Of course the quarrels Thingol has with the Feanorians is on a completely different level than the animosity of what the Dwarves, specifically Thorin, has with Thranduil. But we see both Kings have, to put it very mildly, diplomatic issues due to whitish jewels and their state decrees in service of or as a result of those bling.

    "Thingol fortified the marches of his realm". Both Kings looked to defences, but again for vastly different reasons. While Doriath has long benefitted from the grace of Melian's power, the Doom of desiring the Silmarils changed things, and Thingol, having brought things to a head himself (as you say, Kerewyn, he's really asking for it), strengthened defences for his kingdom for the first time in a long time, in anticipation of Feanorian offence. But Thranduil's fortifications is an on-going endeavour in the face of encroaching evil from the south, and he's even had to retreat and shrink his realm's borders, having no assistance from glamours or magics of higher beings or powers. Thingol did not need to do any border redefinitions.

    "To them Thingol gave leave to go". Despite refusing to participate himself, he allowed those who wished to go, albeit with conditions. I want to think that in addition to understanding the yearning to be part of great deeds, there's also an element of Thingol understood deep down it was a fight no one could avoid, and no Elf should really shirk the duty to "DO THE RIGHT THING". Here I see a parallel not only with Thranduil ultimately turning from his march to the Mountain to assist Lake-town, but also going back to Oropher's decision to join the Last Alliance and Thranduil's own gumption to stick it out through the entirety of the War of the Last Alliance after Oropher's fall.



    That's my $0.02 on the Kingly comparisons. What do you think? Smile







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    Sep 18 2014, 2:55pm

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         Whoever made that poster should be proud... [In reply to]  

    ...that it's high enough quality that not only the news outlets, but LP himself thought it was real! I thought it was real too, though, I'm still wondering where they got that pic of Thranduil, if it's not official. It doesn't look familiar to me.

    Also, yay for a real poster coming soon, and LP better brace himself for the incoming inundation of fan art from people all around the world! All I can say is: You asked for it!Wink

    "Home is behind the world ahead
    And there are many paths to tread
    Through shadow to the edge of night
    Until the stars are all alight.

    Mist and shadow
    Cloud and shade
    All shall fade
    All shall fade"



    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 18 2014, 4:04pm

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    It looked good though, but had me wonder if it was a fanmade poster or not. Because usually the official posters are of fantastic HR quality photo's. Although Thranduil looks as good as ever on it, the image didn't appear of such HR quality as we're used to. And to me, his pose was just a little off for it to be an official one. But seeing as you posted the screeny from LP's twitter saying it was the official poster, it made me doubt myself (because it ís nicely done). I guess this means we're getting another -official- poster with an amazing HR Thranduil for BOFA...Sly


    dernwyn
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    Sep 18 2014, 5:50pm

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    I have this habit of picking up on quirky things in the interviews! Laugh

    This cast is a lot of fun, I love'em all - but then, Sir P. selects only the best. Heart


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 18 2014, 9:17pm

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    Yes the focus is very off. And Bubba's antler seems to be alight Tongue



    I always like pictures of both Thranduil and Legolas in it. Although Legolas should have been photoshopped a little smaller, because he is almost as tall als his Dad, who is riding a giant Elk!


    Heart Best one yet


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 18 2014, 9:19pm

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    *Checks them out one more time* Heart


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 18 2014, 9:21pm

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         In his umbrella stand? [In reply to]  

    Now that's a bit of an unorthodox location for a sword Evil

    Love the closeup of all the details, it's so pretty



    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 18 2014, 9:24pm

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    Including VValar, I think that makes three of us former silent thread visitors that I know whose first TORn post is consecrated to the glory that is Thranduil the ElvenkingAngelicLaugh




    HeartHeartHeart
    I think I barely post in any other topic, unless it's somehow Thranduil related Angelic


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 18 2014, 9:33pm

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         Nope that's not it [In reply to]  

    I have checked it, but I'm already in advanced editor mode and I can see the buttons on top of the text box. I'm not sure why it doesn't seem to work properly, I don't have those kind of problems on other sites/forum. But thanks for helping me figure out what's wrong Unimpressed I guess I'm stuck with the pain of having to edit and re-edit every text/picture until it works accordingly. It just takes up extra time, that's all.

    Here's one to ease the pain, a little bit of FLAST to lighten the mood



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    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 18 2014, 9:40pm

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         This was my thought exactly [In reply to]  

    When I watched the DOS EE trailer yesterday evening. It looks cool and inviting, but unfortunately I didn't see and (new) footage with Thranduil (or Leggy). I hope this doesn't mean we will be deprived of new Thranduil goodness in the EE. We will not be pleased if we don't see anything new preciousssssss, no we won't Mad


    BlackFox
    Half-elven


    Sep 18 2014, 9:42pm

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         Have you checked out Magpie's excellent tutorials? [In reply to]  

    uploading the image from your harddrive
    uploading the image from a website you own




    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 18 2014, 9:50pm

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         That book title [In reply to]  

    Ah that's OK, perhaps it poppes into mind someday Smile (and when that happens be sure to let me know Smile )

    Re the two swords theory:


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    I'd think he's either
    - one of those pro-level people who's so attuned to each weapon he uses, he's particular about which sword goes where, and in that case, would only wear his main sword at home and yes, just dust off the secondary sword when he goes out for adventure
    - or he's equally comfortable with either sword in either hand, then he'd definitely be keeping the one out of rotation by his nightstandLaugh


    I think it won't matter to Thranduil which sword he uses. Btw, aren't both swords similar to each other? That way it wouldn't really matter which sword he carries with him. It makes sense them both being exact twins, but I haven't seen any decent closeups with his two swords in combat.
    The sword has it's own fanart as well
    http://i1277.photobucket.com/...lIII_zps28576db7.png





    Fionniel
    The Shire

    Sep 19 2014, 1:23am

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         My exact thoughts,too, VValar. [In reply to]  

    I was positively fuming when the new DOS:EE trailer showed absolutely NO Thranduil,Shocked let alone any new scenes with him in it ! Mad They just can not leave out those two scenes that we know were filmed. Namely, where Thranduil confronts all the Dwarven party; and the conversation he has with Legolas. How could they show more of those silly Dwarves and have nothing of his Royal Fabulousness. Absolute travesty ! I am hoping that P J and co. are just saving the best till last.Evil

    I am one of those silent readers that had to come out of lurking mode. It only happens when the thread subject is Thranduil ( and his dad and his son). Such is their power.Heart I have read every T A thread,Yay ! I am very grateful for the hard work done here by so many generous people. The info. is fascinating and the images supplied are awesome. It makes my day every time I come to these T A threads.Smile


    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 19 2014, 3:25am

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         Oh yeah... and I really wonder who started all... this =P [In reply to]  


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    ...that it's high enough quality that not only the news outlets, but LP himself thought it was real! I thought it was real too, though, I'm still wondering where they got that pic of Thranduil, if it's not official. It doesn't look familiar to me.

    Exactly my thoughts. And it's not on the official website either is it? Which seemed down forever anyway ... The pic is not familiar to you? Did you miss this sub-thread in XII?



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    Also, yay for a real poster coming soon, and LP better brace himself for the incoming inundation of fan art from people all around the world! All I can say is: You asked for it!Wink

    meantime, I'm feeling just a tad like one of these guys or anyone of their 23 kindred spirits EvilTongueLaugh







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    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Fionniel
    The Shire

    Sep 19 2014, 3:52am

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         Agree with you, totally, about Thrandy and Legy in the new TBOTFA banner ,VValar. [In reply to]  

    Legolas looks more like his TLOTR days in this banner. Strong, determined Elven focus; and stunning to look at ! HeartBut his daddy ! Wow ! Blush THAT is what I call one majestic king supremely in control of his situation.HeartHeartHeart He personifies immense vitality, strength, intellect; focus and determination and great purpose. I love how he is commanding that scene with cautious, kingly confidence but not over-confidence. A character trait that, no doubt, has helped him ensure the survival of his Elves and himself over his many centuries.( Unlike his tragic dad, Oropher.)

    Thranduil is such a fascinating conundrum.

    Yes, the hair ! Dad and son ! They both have the most captivating, long, perfect, platinum coloured hair. Shocked I love that he is in all silvery-grey colours, too. Suits his affinity with star light. Loving his exquisite silvery-grey cloak and armour. Looks so good on him ! Elven masculine beauty.HeartHeart
    I wonder what Thranduil is looking at behind him? Gandalf intervening ? The approach of the Orcs and Goblins?

    Roll on December. So looking forward to this final showdown.Smile


    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 19 2014, 4:10am

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         trying my darnest for sure, and that Thranduil's SWORD fan art!!! [In reply to]  

    I will REMEMBER!Tongue


    In Reply To
    I think it won't matter to Thranduil which sword he uses. Btw, aren't both swords similar to each other? That way it wouldn't really matter which sword he carries with him. It makes sense them both being exact twins, but I haven't seen any decent closeups with his two swords in combat.
    The sword has it's own fanart as well
    http://i1277.photobucket.com/...lIII_zps28576db7.png

    Agree. Thranduil's an UBER ELF, not some fussy Man who claims he can't swat the ball just cos the racket's not the one he's used to.

    ... that fan art gallery!!! THUD* what a find! The first 2 alone are just HeartHeartHeart Thanks, VValar!

    In love with this


    And then this uber cool profile... oh my... *THUDDERLY THUD*


    *save happy spree*





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    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 19 2014, 4:12am

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    so patience, rittle gelasshoppaEvil




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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 19 2014, 4:13am

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    Tongue Wonder how he came by it though...


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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 19 2014, 4:14am

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    The quirky bits are the bestSmile



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    This cast is a lot of fun, I love'em all - but then, Sir P. selects only the best. Heart

    He does have a great sense for casting.





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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 19 2014, 4:21am

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    Yes the focus is very off. And Bubba's antler seems to be alight Tongue

    Thranduil seem to be aglow as well. Is it just Bubba's antler reflecting the glory of his magnificent master?



    In Reply To
    I always like pictures of both Thranduil and Legolas in it. Although Legolas should have been photoshopped a little smaller, because he is almost as tall als his Dad, who is riding a giant Elk!

    LoL! I guessed Elven stilts or the art of levitation on Legolas' part.



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    Heart Best one yet


    Definitely!HeartHeartHeart




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    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 19 2014, 4:22am

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    HeartHeartHeart
    I think I barely post in any other topic, unless it's somehow Thranduil related Angelic

    Give or take prolly 5%?, my post count is intimately tied to the TA threadsEvilTongue

    Here must go Kerewyn's excellent avatar... with a slight amendmentLaughAngelic

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    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    (This post was edited by Lurker in the Mirk on Sep 19 2014, 4:24am)


    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 19 2014, 4:25am

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         Prolly browser issues? [In reply to]  

    Recently had a similar conversation with Kerewyn. I reckon you're on Chrome? Try Firefox MozillaSmile Otherwise, you're well on your way to being a TORn markup expert. which isn't a shabby deal in itself cos it's transferrable to html... next next step world domination!Cool



    In Reply To
    Here's one to ease the pain, a little bit of FLAST to lighten the mood

    LoL! Thanks Smile

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    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    (This post was edited by Lurker in the Mirk on Sep 19 2014, 4:27am)


    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 19 2014, 4:32am

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         *waves* Hi Fionniel! Happy to see another former silent thread visitor [In reply to]  


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    I am one of those silent readers that had to come out of lurking mode. It only happens when the thread subject is Thranduil ( and his dad and his son). Such is their power.Heart I have read every T A thread,Yay ! I am very grateful for the hard work done here by so many generous people. The info. is fascinating and the images supplied are awesome. It makes my day every time I come to these T A threads.Smile

    Pop in more often then!

    1 question, that you don't have to answer: I'm curious, just because of Eowyn of Penwoods' post. Is the so-called "clutter" she mentioned a deterrence to your posting at all? Or am I right in my assumption silent thread visitors stay silent for other reasons?

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    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

    =======
    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 19 2014, 4:40am

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         Farnie about that Gandy/Gladdy image... and of course, Elfses [In reply to]  



    And here's the featured Elves, isolated

    And this beautiful image/GIF just exemplify that Alpha Male vibe. King of all that he surveysHeart





    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
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    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




    (This post was edited by Lurker in the Mirk on Sep 19 2014, 4:41am)


    mariel
    Lorien

    Sep 19 2014, 9:56am

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    I know this question wasn't addressed to me, so I hope you'll forgive me poking my nose in. Something that occurred to me [and I may be talking complete rubbish] is that the problem some seem to have viewing the posts might be down to the size of the device it is being viewed on eg a phone? Personally I have no problems with the posts and don't find them "cluttered" and in fact fnd it useful to see the quotes with the replies attached. Makes it easier to see what is being referred to.
    My own personal reasons for being a STV are that I have nothing useful, insightful or decorative to add. However, I do find this an entertaining, informative and enjoyable read and it brightens my otherwise humdrum days. IMO you deserve a standing ovation for the diligence, dedication and devotion in scouring the internet for the WW. I don't know how you [and VValar] keep finding the new material. Right, I'll shut up now.


    mariel
    Lorien

    Sep 19 2014, 10:05am

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         Thanks for the welcome [In reply to]  

    PS - found this piece of fan art you might quite like - don't know whether you've seen it before

    http://s1378.photobucket.com/...zps26fa8640.jpg.html


    Eruvandi
    Tol Eressea


    Sep 19 2014, 8:34pm

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         Nice! More thoughts... [In reply to]  

    You finished chapter 20? Wow, you really did read like the wind! I’m finishing up chapter 19 now.

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    "From Doriath came little help". Just as the Dwarves got little help from Thranduil, so did the Feanorians get scant assistance from Thingol, though for vastly different reasons... well prima facie. Where Thranduil's stance was to not get involved in events that were foregone conclusions and risk unnecessary waste of his people's lives, Thingol's refusal stemmed from a quarrel, and stiff-necked pride. Prima facie, because I do believe, had the Dwarves not "betrayed" the contract and returned the White Gems to Thranduil, he might have felt a closer sense of alliance and be willing to proffer some assistance, even if he did not join the fray (which I still doubt he would in any case) directly.


    I pretty much agree with all of this, especially that we really do have to look at it prima facie, just based on the information we have right now, because some of it could change come December!

    The only thing I would add is that we still aren’t entirely sure what Thorin was talking about in the “One King to Another” scene when he said, “We came to you once. Starving. Homeless. Seeking your help. But you turned your back. You turned your back on the suffering of my people and the inferno that destroyed us! [Unspellable dwarvish curse]” Was he saying that the dwarves came to Thranduil for help a second time, sometime after Smaug had taken Erebor and he turned them away? If so, I’d say that had a lot to do with the quarrel over the White Gems and pride too.

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    "And every day that he looked upon the Silmaril the more he desired to keep it for ever; for such was its power." The hold of the Simaril on Thingol was probably the stronger but Thranduil's thing for the White Gems surely was very strong in itself, though as I think it was you who pointed it out, Kerewyn, it wasn't that strong that Thranduil was motivated to go himself and get them out of the Smaug hoard. But for Thingol, it was strong enough that he refused to see the logic of going to war allied with the Feanorians if it meant relinquishing his claim on the Simaril.


    Also, in Thingol’s case, even more than the quarrel and pride I think the main reason he was unwilling to give up the Silmaril because he was angry about how it had basically cost him his daughter. Like, honestly, I don’t think lust for a Silmaril was even the main reason Thingol sent Beren to get it in the first place. Sure, he said he desired it, but I don’t think he ever expected to actually get it. His reaction to Beren’s initial appearance in Doriath was that of a king who is angry because his realm had been infiltrated, but it was also that of a father who was angry because of the fear that some stranger was taking his only daughter away from him. Therefore, he sent Beren after the Silmaril because he truly believed that the quest would result in Beren’s death. Well, Beren WAS successful, but only after a great deal of suffering had befallen him, Luthien and a number of other people. Then, to make matters worse (from Thingol’s perspective) Beren died and Luthien went and mourned herself to death. Even though Mandos had pity on them and they both got a second chance at life as mortals, Thingol had still, for all intents and purposed, lost his daughter for want of a gem. Elves are supposed to live forever after all.

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    But we see both Kings have, to put it very mildly, diplomatic issues due to whitish jewels and their state decrees in service of or as a result of those bling.

    Lol. Definitely.Smile

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    "Thingol fortified the marches of his realm". Both Kings looked to defences, but again for vastly different reasons. While Doriath has long benefitted from the grace of Melian's power, the Doom of desiring the Silmarils changed things, and Thingol, having brought things to a head himself (as you say, Kerewyn, he's really asking for it), strengthened defences for his kingdom for the first time in a long time, in anticipation of Feanorian offence. But Thranduil's fortifications is an on-going endeavour in the face of encroaching evil from the south, and he's even had to retreat and shrink his realm's borders, having no assistance from glamours or magics of higher beings or powers. Thingol did not need to do any border redefinitions.

    Good observation!

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    "To them Thingol gave leave to go". Despite refusing to participate himself, he allowed those who wished to go, albeit with conditions. I want to think that in addition to understanding the yearning to be part of great deeds, there's also an element of Thingol understood deep down it was a fight no one could avoid, and no Elf should really shirk the duty to "DO THE RIGHT THING". Here I see a parallel not only with Thranduil ultimately turning from his march to the Mountain to assist Lake-town, but also going back to Oropher's decision to join the Last Alliance and Thranduil's own gumption to stick it out through the entirety of the War of the Last Alliance after Oropher's fall.

    This is interesting because along with what you said, I'm seeing an additional little contrast here between Thingol and Thranduil. With Thingol, 2 of his elves, Mablung and Beleg wanted to get involved in the troubles of the outside world and he gave them leave to do so. But with Thranduil, 2 of his elves, Tauriel and Legolas have decided to get involved with the outside world and they've left, but they were most certainly NOT given leave to do so!

    "Home is behind the world ahead
    And there are many paths to tread
    Through shadow to the edge of night
    Until the stars are all alight.

    Mist and shadow
    Cloud and shade
    All shall fade
    All shall fade"



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    Sep 19 2014, 8:43pm

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    But I will certainly do so now. Thanks for the links, hopefully it'll help me a bit Smile


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    Sep 19 2014, 8:46pm

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    Hopefully you'll get things sorted out. Smile



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    Sep 19 2014, 9:00pm

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    It just won't do to NOT include more Thranduil in the DOS EE. I really want -nay- NEED to see the two extra scenes that were filmed in the EE. My life is just incomplete without it.



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    How could they show more of those silly Dwarves and have nothing of his Royal Fabulousness.



    You know that just wouldn't make any sense. But since I believe PJ and co. are still sensible people, hope remains they will include more of his Royal Fabulousness (hehe). I mean how can they not? Who wouldn't want to see more of this:

    HeartHeart



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    I am one of those silent readers that had to come out of lurking mode. It only happens when the thread subject is Thranduil ( and his dad and his son). Such is their power.Heart I have read every T A thread,Yay ! I am very grateful for the hard work done here by so many generous people. The info. is fascinating and the images supplied are awesome. It makes my day every time I come to these T A threads.Smile


    The power of Thranduil (and Legolas) is very great indeed if they manage to un-lurk even the most persistent silent tread reader. For in time, all STR come forth, and we may marvel at the wonder that is Thranduil (and Leggy of course) together Heart


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    Sep 19 2014, 9:43pm

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    About the banner:
    Legolas looks as good as ever (which is very good obviously and sexy and prettyHeart). Thranduil however, looks absolutely stunning. HeartHeart


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    He personifies immense vitality, strength, intellect; focus and determination and great purpose. I love how he is commanding that scene with cautious, kingly confidence but not over-confidence. A character trait that, no doubt, has helped him ensure the survival of his Elves and himself over his many centuries.( Unlike his tragic dad, Oropher.)




    Liking your description of him, suits him perfectly. I have nothing more to add Angelic

    About the hair:
    It's so rediculously good looking, it should be not even be legal.
    I mean how is it possible this Elf has even longer hair than me, yet still manages to look masculine and strong and FAAAAB?
    HTR Alert *THUD*
    http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/...ff5c941282bc9368.jpg


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    Sep 19 2014, 9:50pm

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    And here's another big clicky with lots of details on the handle
    http://cdn.acfrg.com/...ze/2/282617d-emp.jpg


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    Sep 19 2014, 9:53pm

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    I think he might be misled by how good he actually looked in it. "It must be real", he must have thought, "I look so cool!".

    Yes you do LP, yes you do.



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    Sep 19 2014, 10:06pm

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    Yes I love the accuracy of Kerewyn's avatar, very well done Kerewyn! Other forums are not our concern indeed for there can only be one who takes up all our time and attention (and rightfully so).


    In that light.... let's celebrate this fact by a little bit of FEASTING (Flustered Elrond And Sassy Thranduil, Including Not-impressed Galadriel) viewing .. Hehe AngelicHeart



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    Sep 19 2014, 10:20pm

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    I'm still on IE Blush
    I'm not really keen on the thought of changing to another i-browser cause change means all my buttons are misplaced Crazy And I do know a good deal of HTML so I should come a long way on TORn. But I reckon it's not the fastest or simplest way of doing things so I might have to change to another i-browser someday. But it is not this day! Tongue For I need to slowly wrap my mind around having to change my i-browser for the better and therefor having to readjust to the new configuration. Oh the things we do for love Heart


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    Sep 19 2014, 10:30pm

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    I know it's just so wrong but I had to laugh real hard. I can understand you liking the art even more since you aren't very keen on the prospect of having that scene in BOFA Wink

    RE the link with closeups from the Elves.... Hadn't noticed Leggy looks a bit smudgy.
    Like the look of desperation on Galadriel's face, she looks amazing. Can't say that bout Tauriel in this picture.
    And I don't think I need to elaborate on Thranduil's appearance for I even made an avatar out of that picture, due to the simple fact he looks so...... Heart ! (for lack of better words) He's got it all, the look, The Hair , circlet and the armour Heart

    But he doesn't look too bad in this one eitherWink



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    Sep 19 2014, 10:34pm

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    Hadn't seen that before Heart




    Oh and I had my first go with it and I believe I just made my first ever clicky Angelic


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    Sep 19 2014, 11:00pm

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    Be prepared for my second working clicky Shocked

    Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart


    Look look! He is holding both of his swords!!
    Love that look of focus.
    Leggy is watching from a respectable distance, all the while thinking he is a very lucky Elf to have such a impressive father (and impressive he looks with that armour Heart)


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    Sep 20 2014, 12:32am

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     Heart the two swords. Looks like he has some serious leg armour going on as well.

    Thranduil: "Who are you, dwarfling man, and dare you give me orders?"

    PJ and his ever-present white mug Laugh He even had it at SDCC! I wonder if he has an assistant constantly running up with a top-up or freshly hot tea /coffee? (I know my own ever-present cup of tea at work goes lukewarm way too quickly - I am thinking of investing in a USB cup warmer.)



    "Thou speakest of thralldom. If thralldom it be, thou canst not escape it..."


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    Sep 20 2014, 12:48am

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    I am not going to watch the EE trailer, I have decided. With the past EE releases, it has been way too much fun being surprised and delighted while actually watching the DVD, so I'm not going to look at any of it in advance. Mantra: I am patient... etc.
    And I am confident we will see His Magnificence in some new EE scenes.

    My delayed gratification means I haven’t actually watched DoS for months, as I refuse to buy or rent the TE. LOL - but recently it had this effect:

    Was reading my new ‘Cloaks & Daggers’ Chronicles, and on the spread titled ‘Thranduil’s Cellar Props and Dressing’, I was intrigued by this quote from Evangeline Lily:

    ‘One of the joys of working on these films has been seeing the world of Tolkien, one of my literary heroes, brought to life. The studio sets were shockingly intricate and elaborate, and the location full of wonder and beauty. Thranduil’s wine cellar was among the many that stood out to me. I wish I could have spent so much more time in it. I had one very small scene in that cellar and I could barely focus on my work. I just kept nattering on about the amazing set. My eyes were so busy looking, my mind couldn’t keep up!’

    So anyway I was like ‘it’s an EE hint!’ because I could not recall her being in the cellar! And I excitedly started to imagine extra scenes. Perhaps Tauriel comes to request of Galion something special for the Feast of Starlight (though this would not be in her job description). Perhaps she and Legolas end up there having a quiet tete-a-tete. Most likely she’d be called down there after the Dwarves’ barrel escape.

    Er, then I trawled through the screencaps library, just to check - and there it was, her very small scene, on exactly that last note. Sheesh… me. BlushBlush



    "Thou speakest of thralldom. If thralldom it be, thou canst not escape it..."


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    Sep 20 2014, 2:16am

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    Finally I have time to weigh in on this! (a freelance deadline over past two evenings forced me to stay away, as I would inevitably get side-tracked and make my client cranky)

    I love the comparisons you have both expanded on, and you’ve noted so many more parallels than I had. (There is so much in fact – it would be fascinating to interview the writing triad on their thought processes, on these subtle references) It’s only last night that I got up to reading of the Silm’s Fifth Battle, so it’s timely that I’m only today looking at your comparisons on this. (The ending of the Beren & Luthien story is so poignant huh? “And none saw Beren or Luthien leave the world, or marked where their bodies lay.” )

    I was wondering about the actual nature of the desire that both Thingol and Thranduil have for their respective gems. But I like what you noted, Eruvandi, that lust for a Simaril wasn’t what made Thingol send Beren to get it. Fairy tales and legends are full of similar themes – kings posing impossible tasks for the suitors of their daughters. Usually to prove their worth, but in Thingol’s case, it’s like combining an impossible dream with a most likely way to get this particular suitor out of the way.

    But to look more closely at and assume this ‘impossible dream’, the genuine desire for a Simaril, there's the parallel between one gem containing the light of Trees of Valinor, and the other containing pure starlight. (as least, if the White Gems are not merely metaphorically named). So neither are ordinary treasures and to possess them would almost be ‘beyond normal wealth’, but to bestow an almost religious experience (is the closest way I can think to describe) upon those who behold them.

    I was thinking that Thingol, having not resided in Valinor, might want to possess an element of what the Noldor had in fact experienced, in order to be equal to them. And Thranduil in TH: “since he had not yet as great a treasure as other elf-lords of old.”

    But I forgot that Thingol had actually been to Valinor as Elwe, in fact one of the first three Elves to view the Two Trees. But look what happened. In spite of the glory he saw there and praises he no doubt sang on the way back, love for Melian kept him in ME and he never journeyed back with the Noldor.

    Likewise, Thranduil knows where lies the starlight, contained in gems, yet for the love of his people, he won’t risk their lives. And has Thranduil actively learnt a lesson, remembering Thingol and the Doom and loss wrought by the ancient king’s gem lust?

    Nvertheless… "And every day that he looked upon the Silmaril the more he desired to keep it for ever; for such was its power." I think the Silmarils are more probably powerful than any other piece of bling(?), save the One Ring, but I wonder if the White Gems would exert a similar power over Thranduil eventually? Maybe not. I’m sure he wouldn’t like to part with them, but I can’t see him becoming corrupted by them.

    Thanks for this great discussion, guys!
    SmileSmile



    "Thou speakest of thralldom. If thralldom it be, thou canst not escape it..."


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    Sep 20 2014, 2:38am

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    Appreciate your taking the time to share your thoughts - and my thoughts exactly! I was triggered by Fionniel's being around for all the TA threads to ask her the question. And then of course I remembered I wanted to ask you as well... after I'd logged offCrazy Typical. It's just interesting to me behaviour on the boards. The sample populations are too small to be representative for sure, but I do notice there are a few broad groups of TA readers, which I think is a microcosm of TORn, though of course not completely representative.

    With all due respect, as someone who works with very specific applications and related projects/user support, I am intrigued by attitudes about learning to use something properly, due to work, as opposed to the self-motivation to do so for leisure. Right, I'll stop there before this becomes too much of a OT spiel.



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    My own personal reasons for being a STV are that I have nothing useful, insightful or decorative to add. However, I do find this an entertaining, informative and enjoyable read and it brightens my otherwise humdrum days. IMO you deserve a standing ovation for the diligence, dedication and devotion in scouring the internet for the WW. I don't know how you [and VValar] keep finding the new material. Right, I'll shut up now.

    mariel, I think you are too dismissive of your participation. Please don't stop posting, even if it's just a OMGSmile

    Ah, thank you for the appreciation. It's always nice to be appreciated. Frankly, having enjoyed the first 2 threads, I decided to de-lurk to say "HI" and "Thanks", and fully expected to disappear back into the mirk forthwith. Didn't look for it, but I guess I sort of OCD'd over the Thranduil appreciationEvil To be honest, I feel like I'm paying it forward with the Pretty! because I truly don't know how long I have to keep enjoying myself like this. And I hope when RL catches up and got me locked down tight, I can also come to the TAs and just get my fix of Pretty! fellow Thrall kindly and generously share.Smile

    See you around, mariel!

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    Sep 20 2014, 3:04am

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    You finished chapter 20? Wow, you really did read like the wind! I’m finishing up chapter 19 now.

    Evil I do read fast, which is an advantage when reading light or more straightforward fare. But it's a tough thing to be when it comes to Tolkien because there's such a lot to digest and think about. I find I have to slow myself down and really READ if I don't want to get confused later, which results in wandering mind syndrome (and no, I refuse to acknowledge I have ADD), and I have to go back and forth to be sure I got it straight (which keeps for oh, 24 hours if I'm lucky) so it takes a bit to get anywhere with the SilmCrazy



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    I pretty much agree with all of this, especially that we really do have to look at it prima facie, just based on the information we have right now, because some of it could change come December!

    The only thing I would add is that we still aren’t entirely sure what Thorin was talking about in the “One King to Another” scene when he said, “We came to you once. Starving. Homeless. Seeking your help. But you turned your back. You turned your back on the suffering of my people and the inferno that destroyed us! [Unspellable dwarvish curse]” Was he saying that the dwarves came to Thranduil for help a second time, sometime after Smaug had taken Erebor and he turned them away? If so, I’d say that had a lot to do with the quarrel over the White Gems and pride too.

    ikr? I can't help but think, just cos of Thorin's choice of the word "once" that it might not be referring to that day Thranduil turned away and brought Bubba and his entourage away to safety. December... or maybe the DoS EE? Angelic



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    Also, in Thingol’s case, even more than the quarrel and pride I think the main reason he was unwilling to give up the Silmaril because he was angry about how it had basically cost him his daughter. Like, honestly, I don’t think lust for a Silmaril was even the main reason Thingol sent Beren to get it in the first place. Sure, he said he desired it, but I don’t think he ever expected to actually get it. His reaction to Beren’s initial appearance in Doriath was that of a king who is angry because his realm had been infiltrated, but it was also that of a father who was angry because of the fear that some stranger was taking his only daughter away from him. Therefore, he sent Beren after the Silmaril because he truly believed that the quest would result in Beren’s death. Well, Beren WAS successful, but only after a great deal of suffering had befallen him, Luthien and a number of other people. Then, to make matters worse (from Thingol’s perspective) Beren died and Luthien went and mourned herself to death. Even though Mandos had pity on them and they both got a second chance at life as mortals, Thingol had still, for all intents and purposed, lost his daughter for want of a gem. Elves are supposed to live forever after all.

    I think Thingol's displeasure was also partly a feeling of insult that a mere Man dared to even desire his daughter, who's essentially of the very highest of high birth, being half Maia and the child of himself, the only Elf in all ME accounted among the Calaquendi. If the stranger had been a fellow-Elf, especially a noble, he might just be very slightly less peeved though I do think there's not many possible candidates who would not trigger him to set the fetch-ye-a-Silmaril challenge/quest/thingy. Though I think he wasn't genuinely looking to send Beren to his death, just deter him from thinking beyond his station. But then he must be uberly shaken by the "breach" in the defences. Melian did foretell that one of great doom was going to pass through the Girdle regardless. So maybe there was an element of averting the fates after all. Interesting.Smile



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    This is interesting because along with what you said, I'm seeing an additional little contrast here between Thingol and Thranduil. With Thingol, 2 of his elves, Mablung and Beleg wanted to get involved in the troubles of the outside world and he gave them leave to do so. But with Thranduil, 2 of his elves, Tauriel and Legolas have decided to get involved with the outside world and they've left, but they were most certainly NOT given leave to do so!

    Yes. Though I'd think that Legolas departed with Thranduil's permission, with the sole aim of bringing Tauriel home before bad stuff happened. Him continuing on and even helping with Tauriel's adventure though, that's certainly out of line.


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    I found it uber interesting that Thingol essentially changed his mind about Men and took Turin on as a foster-son he loved like his own. And Turin in turn turned out to be a "progressive" influence on his court, at least in terms of how war is conducted, though sadly he is the catalyst for everlasting change for Thingol and Doriath. I see a little bit of parallel in Tauriel essentially holding that same position in Thranduil's story we see unfolding in the movies, though hopefully with less depressing causes and outcomes.Unimpressed



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    Sep 20 2014, 3:05am

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    Thank you againSmile




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    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 3:06am

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    Am sure!Laugh




    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 3:07am

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    So apt. Hey, did you see the one about Thranduil giving Elrond a headache with his drinking habit?Tongue




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    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 3:09am

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    Well, could it be your browser version then? The TORn FAQ did also list the minimum IE version on which the Advanced Editor would work.



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    Oh the things we do for love Heart

    Oh yeah... Good luck sorting it out regardless.

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    Sep 20 2014, 3:15am

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    I know it's just so wrong but I had to laugh real hard. I can understand you liking the art even more since you aren't very keen on the prospect of having that scene in BOFA Wink

    honestly, I'm trying to keep an open mind about it, and hope for the best. I'm fairly confident it's just a coincidence though there's always that little niggle it may be some warped sense to need to cater (I really think it's pandering, rather unnecessarily too) to "regional" tastes or what-nots that seems to be getting prevalent these days. CrazyEvil *shoves viewpoint back into dark* Right! Moving on,


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    But he doesn't look too bad in this one eitherWink

    Not at all!HeartAngelicLaugh

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    Sep 20 2014, 3:17am

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    Hi! Long time lurker (hi, Lurker!), first time poster. Wasn't sure where to post this; I'm so used to reading this in flat mode. Anyway, I guess I'm one of your STVs. I completely agree with Mariel: I don't feel like I have anything worth adding, but I adore coming here and viewing the Glory that is Thranduil. :-) I've read the Silm recently (been wanting to pick it up again), so it's been great reading your discussion!


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    It's cool though, the excitement of Kerewyn's maiden read.


    Yes, and Eruvandi’s too! (as she noted) LOL, glad you are riding the coat tails of the excitement.

    I’ve even gone as far as to put this image of Maeglin, Turgon and Eol as the background on my phone. Whenever I look at my phone during the day, while at work or some mundane RL activity, it gives me a tiny thrill each time, reminding me of this wonderful undercurrent in my life, the discovery of this great work.


    I’m probably looking too deeply into detail, but I’m intrigued by what appears to be warrior markings on Turgon’s face, which you can’t quite make out. Or maybe it's just an expression of extreme anger/annoyance Also, Ted Nasmith seems to have a bit of a hippy vibe going on; some of his Elves are depicted in sandals, like Turgon here. Seems the climate of Gondolin would not be conducive to open-toed footwear, but then, Elves are hardy folk.


    I’m finding that the tumblr Silm Readalong blog is good for motivation, forcing me to keep up so I can enjoy the relevance of fan art being shared – but it’s not great for discussion (I can’t even figure out how to reply to someone who’s commented to me) What I crave is a long, slow discussion on the Silm! I wonder when the Reading Room will come around to it again? (maybe after LOTR that’s about to kick off) But at least now, I can see various RR discussions on Silm topics, which I’ll now be able to read without being in the dark. I’ll be quite inspired to read ‘The Children of Hurin’ next.

    (I haven’t even started to look up Maeglin or Celegorm & Curufin on deviant art yet! One lonesome night, I may go there…..)

    note: likes bassass elves.

    /OT



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    Sep 20 2014, 3:21am

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    Hello YOUR MAGNIFICENCE!

    Finally, a full length shot of Thranduil in armour and wielding his swords! Loves how he's holding his main gauche in reverse grip. That's definitely his default stance right thereHeartHeartHeart



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    Look look! He is holding both of his swords!!
    Love that look of focus.
    Leggy is watching from a respectable distance, all the while thinking he is a very lucky Elf to have such a impressive father (and impressive he looks with that armour Heart)

    What happens here do you think? Is this where Thranduil reunites with Legolas?






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    Sep 20 2014, 3:23am

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    Thranduil: "Who are you, dwarfling man, and dare you give me orders?"

    Haha... and he's so imposingHeart *still getting squee feels with the way he holds those swords*






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    Sep 20 2014, 3:31am

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    Hello lurkerLaugh
    Thanks for de-lurking! I think it's safe to say, Thranduil is pleased to see more STV giving up their silenceSmile so don't go back to just lurking! Come join in the Silm chatting then!


    Your username is intriguing if I may say soSmile Can I ask what does it mean?




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    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 3:37am

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    Melian did foretell that one of great doom was going to pass through the Girdle regardless. So maybe there was an element of averting the fates after all.


    Point! And maybe Thingol just got all fatalistic and is like "well if this doom is gonna happen regardless, let's go all the way and see what we can get to our advantage.' ( OK, he probably wasn't thinking that... )

    Also like your point on Beren being a mere man, for all that he could claim the esteem of Felagund. Yet he's so not cowed by Thingol pulling rank here.

    I like how a prophecy or promise can occur literally, but with a tweaking of expectations. Eg - the hand of Beren did hold a Simaril when next they met. Eg the Witch King's death being brought about by "no man."



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    Sep 20 2014, 3:42am

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    There is so much in fact – it would be fascinating to interview the writing triad on their thought processes, on these subtle references

    I suppose some of what we see are just coincidences, but they can't all be cosmic confluences can they?Smile



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    (The ending of the Beren & Luthien story is so poignant huh? “And none saw Beren or Luthien leave the world, or marked where their bodies lay.” )

    It's a stretch probably, but their story, especially when they are apart, brings to mind the myth of star-crossed lovers in Chinese mythlogy/folklore, the cowherd and the weaving maid, they get to meet once a year, but I don't think they get put through the wringer quite as rigorously as B & L.


    Great observations on Silmarils and White Gems, Kerewyn! Can't wait to see how those Gems fit into the mythos, though if memory serve, somewhere it's been mentioned (not sure if it was a LP interview or someone else discussing them) those Gems had cultural signficance. Like you, I do not want them being shown to exert unhealthy influence - we already get enough of that from Thranduil's supposed treasure-lust and his "jerk" behaviour as concluded by some viewers. To go that route would, imo, be just trite. So, fingers crossed!









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    Sep 20 2014, 3:47am

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    it seems to be Speak Out STV Week, which is fantastic!
    Welcome to you and all! Smile

    I remember when I found the very first TA thread (it had only been going for a few pages) I dived straight in, because it was just what I had been looking for (trawling through the discussions to find anything and everything devoted to Thranduil.) I have very good memories of closely participating on TORn back around the release of ROTK and for a couple of years after, and I'd been missing those days.

    But I did feel I had nothing much to contribute beyond general squeeing - not being terribly academically minded, I felt so under-read and uneducated on Tolkien, compared with so many of the fine folk here, and I've shown myself up plenty of times with my comparative ignorance. But I guess after a while, I felt more confident in taking part. It's been a wonderful ride.



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    Sep 20 2014, 3:49am

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    Gah, I love that picture! He's just so Pretty! Tongue I'll have to brush up a bit before I jump in. It's been a while. As for my name, I wanted to use something sufficiently Elvish, but I must say I'm not very creative. So the one I used is my former university and my favorite character from the musical CATS. I've used it forever, and it's served me well. :-)


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    Sep 20 2014, 3:50am

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    (I haven’t even started to look up Maeglin or Celegorm & Curufin on deviant art yet! One lonesome night, I may go there…..)

    note: likes bassass elves.

    I have enough problems keeping up with tumblr re Thranduil/LP... and if there's time, I tend to look to Oropher stuff, so can't even think about the rest for nowCrazy Definitely liking Maedhros' darkness and fey CaranthirBlush

    And definitely love how despite being all these alpha prime specimens of their respective kinds, Silmmie Elves and Men all have issues, neuroses, fallacies, and basically behaves badly as a matter of course or in their inspired momentsTongue Even the Valar have their bad moments, foot-draggy lotFrownTongue



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    I’m probably looking too deeply into detail, but I’m intrigued by what appears to be warrior markings on Turgon’s face, which you can’t quite make out. Or maybe it's just an expression of extreme anger/annoyance Also, Ted Nasmith seems to have a bit of a hippy vibe going on; some of his Elves are depicted in sandals, like Turgon here. Seems the climate of Gondolin would not be conducive to open-toed footwear, but then, Elves are hardy folk.

    Turgon does look a bit like he's going for some funky KISS/The Crow look isn't he? But you've got a great version. Me wants!

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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 3:54am

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    I like how a prophecy or promise can occur literally, but with a tweaking of expectations. Eg - the hand of Beren did hold a Simaril when next they met. Eg the Witch King's death being brought about by "no man."

    Me too! And I like it when PJ incorporates a bit of that in the movies too, re "I know you're there". Smile

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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 4:02am

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    it seems to be Speak Out STV Week, which is fantastic!
    Welcome to you and all! Smile







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    But I did feel I had nothing much to contribute beyond general squeeing - not being terribly academically minded, I felt so under-read and uneducated on Tolkien, compared with so many of the fine folk here, and I've shown myself up plenty of times with my comparative ignorance. But I guess after a while, I felt more confident in taking part. It's been a wonderful ride.

    So do we all... well, I'm just an uncharacteristically loudmouth lurker when it comes to ThranduilAngelicCrazyTongue






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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 4:04am

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    Thanks for responding. And looking forward to seeing you around, especially in the Silmmie talkSmile


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    Gah, I love that picture! He's just so Pretty! Tongue

    I guess I don't have to point you to the WWsSmile






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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 4:08am

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    Here: http://maivolchica.tumblr.com/post/97906125571




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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 4:10am

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    I definitely know where the WWs are. Tongue


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    Sep 20 2014, 4:11am

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    Lurker, as you've said, I don't know how long the ride will last. Last time, it was a full two years, and I may have been online here nearly every day, then RL suddenly intervened (a new relationship put my head back on planet earth). For now, I hope to be captivated for a while yet - just enjoying it while it lasts because I remember that I felt slightly bereft when I knew my LOTR interest had waned (in the mid-late 2010s) - it felt like something was missing, and I didn't seem to have any other fandoms at the same time. I wanted to be beckoned back, but it was going to require an intense character interest to haul me in (just as Loki also hauled me into the Marvel world in general).

    Given that this is thralldom we're talking about, I expect it may take some other sort of enchantment to release me from my bond to the Elven King. I'm in no hurry.... Wink


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    With all due respect, as someone who works with very specific applications and related projects/user support, I am intrigued by attitudes about learning to use something properly, due to work, as opposed to the self-motivation to do so for leisure


    Without meaning to lead you into this OT matter, I am a conundrum to myself on this! I seem to get tech-related anxiety, so I sort of resist learning something new for leisure, even when it's going to make my use easier. Hence, I still haven't downloaded Firefox, yet I still gripe away about my browser not supporting the image icons for easier posting. Yet at work, I am pretty up to date with applications because I don't want to be left behind or be draining on anyone else. This seems to point out to me the clear rift between my RL work self, and my far more private online thralldom. We are almost two completely different people.

    It would be fascinating to do (or read) a thesis on fandom and public/private selves, and how it affects one's life. For instance, it's early Saturday afternoon and I've simply been reading TORN since I got up - meanwhile there's housework to do, groceries to buy, and my running shoes are staring me down. But is this procrastination, or the worthiest of pastimes? (slow time for reflection is so hard to find these days)

    I'm going off on a huge tangent here, and I think I'd better go for my run while it's still sunny Smile

    PS - thanks for that link about Weaver Girl and Cow Herd. Likee Smile



    "Thou speakest of thralldom. If thralldom it be, thou canst not escape it..."

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    Sep 20 2014, 4:13am

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    had to ask just to be sure though Tongue




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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 4:23am

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    Without meaning to lead you into this OT matter, I am a conundrum to myself on this! I seem to get tech-related anxiety, so I sort of resist learning something new for leisure, even when it's going to make my use easier. Hence, I still haven't downloaded Firefox, yet I still gripe away about my browser not supporting the image icons for easier posting. Yet at work, I am pretty up to date with applications because I don't want to be left behind or be draining on anyone else. This seems to point out to me the clear rift between my RL work self, and my far more private online thralldom. We are almost two completely different people.

    So I guess even when contorting ourselves over stuff that's probably easy fixes, we're still enjoying the process?Smile I mean, I still fall back to powerpoint for quickie image stuff, because it's fast and I know my way around it already... even though I know I'm not doing myself any long-term favours Tongue



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    Given that this is thralldom we're talking about, I expect it may take some other sort of enchantment to release me from my bond to the Elven King. I'm in no hurry.... Wink

    heehee... same here! I suspect my time's gonna have an expiry sooner than later, just with the way things are. I just hope it'll last til after BotFA. Evil



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    It would be fascinating to do (or read) a thesis on fandom and public/private selves, and how it affects one's life. For instance, it's Saturday morning and I've simply been reading TORN since I got up - meanwhile there's housework to do, groceries to buy, and my running shoes are staring me down. But is this procrastination, or the worthiest of pastimes? (slow time for reflection is so hard to find these days)

    I'm going off on a huge tangent here, and I think I'd better go for my run while it's still sunny Smile

    LoL... don't i know what you meanEvil I should get offline soon and get stuff done, though not a run in the sun, unless I fancy a heatstroke. Before I do, how about a bit of a primer in anticipation of your venture into the world of anime? Look up otaku and fujoshi Smile







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    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


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    Sep 20 2014, 4:25am

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    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 4:35am

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    so far, only 1 fan artist posted her work, surprise, surprise. But it is stunning! Have a look here.




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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 4:35am

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    heehee... same here! I suspect my time's gonna have an expiry sooner than later, just with the way things are. I just hope it'll last til after BotFA.


    I hope you will still be around too! (RL stuff calling you away?) and that you'll be here for discussions when I return from my two RL exiles.

    Exile 1: Trip to South Africa / Botswana / Dubai from October 8 to Nov 3. I can't think of anything remotely Tolkien-related to this holiday. Except that I might see some mammals that remind me of mumakil?

    Exile 2: the 17 days offline between the (UK?) BotFA release date and tardy Aussie release date.

    *starts doing stretching exercises*



    "Thou speakest of thralldom. If thralldom it be, thou canst not escape it..."


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    Sep 20 2014, 4:38am

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    I'm surprised more fan artists haven't taken this opportunity. Heh - I bet it's coming, LP may have opened the floodgates on his Twitter.

    *puts headphones on, grabs water bottle*



    "Thou speakest of thralldom. If thralldom it be, thou canst not escape it..."


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    Valinor


    Sep 20 2014, 4:42am

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    But I have freaking pillow-neck of all things, and it's hurting enough I'm whinging myself out of anything strenuous. I'll be going to lie down and continue with the Silmie in a bitSmile

    RL... yeah, a bunch of situations that well, hopefully don't pull me in all directions at once, but any one one of them's going to be enough to blow the fun and games up, either practically or mentally. I suspect I'll really have to sink back into the mirk sometimeUnsure prolly relegated to weekend TORning, and maybe not so much time for trawling and putting up WWs anymore... but let's not think of that now.

    Your exile one is so exciting! I have that on my to-do as well, but drat if life tangles aren't a mess. As for exile 2- we've spoken on this before, so I'd prolly will be in semi-lurk mode before I see BotFA in the theatres too. *fingers crossed for not pre-spoiling self too much*

    Enjoy your run!Smile TTYL!




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    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 4:44am

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    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 6:55am

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    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 7:02am

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    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 7:06am

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    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 9:55am

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    Reality and Middle-earth.

    https://twitter.com/...s/513099446822109185

    "I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien

    We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.



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    Sep 20 2014, 10:37am

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    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Sep 20 2014, 10:37am

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    https://twitter.com/...s/512666303794909184




    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Lurker in the Mirk
    Valinor


    Sep 20 2014, 10:41am

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    One more before we left the TAXIIIs. Usual EI/HTR/Spoiler/ETC warnings applies Smile

    Thranduil
    IMG
    http://fuckyeahasgardians.tumblr.com/post/97488618865/x
    http://elenoriel.deviantart.com/...-Fountains-419586198
    http://i1240.photobucket.com/...duil_zpsf1532ad5.png
    http://bilbo-babe.tumblr.com/...nduil-the-sindar-elf

    GlF
    http://armitageuniverse.tumblr.com/post/97677277109

    Fanart
    http://33.media.tumblr.com/...2Qt1rad7m8o1_500.jpg
    http://mickydoll.deviantart.com/art/thranduil-482293039
    http://maedhrosmaitimo.tumblr.com/...star-shadow-magician
    http://ichisideblog.tumblr.com/...-to-be-put-on-tumblr
    http://krclara.tumblr.com/...ou-oropher-thranduil
    http://dwimmerlaiks.tumblr.com/...-of-the-silvan-elves
    http://glorfindely.tumblr.com/post/58743357991
    http://markedasinfernal.tumblr.com/...ardy-and-valiant-but
    http://cyancrown.tumblr.com/post/79514552254
    http://big-bugeye.tumblr.com/...king-oropher-i-still
    http://m-u-m-i.tumblr.com/...-greenwood-the-great
    http://official-bilbo-baggins.tumblr.com/...-border-by-j-melmoth
    http://finduilas-faelivrin.tumblr.com/...rewell-by-helesssart
    http://risingmonster.deviantart.com/...r-eternity-424070003
    http://thecrownlesskings.tumblr.com/...-master-serves-t-h-e

    Farnie
    http://www.pinterest.com/pin/80642649550846724/
    http://www.pinterest.com/pin/80642649551668909/
    http://maedhrosmaitimo.tumblr.com/...star-shadow-magician
    http://cyancrown.tumblr.com/...ils-dad-oropher-must
    http://gimmethehobbit.tumblr.com/...us-47-first-previous
    http://beztebenidan.tumblr.com/post/97876668531
    http://austaniteatsea3.tumblr.com/post/97941266998


    PD

    IMG
    http://leepaceily.tumblr.com/...geon-pushing-daisies

    Fanart
    http://robyntrower.deviantart.com/...speedpaint-452813055


    The Fall

    http://tickticktickding.tumblr.com/...com-2010-09-27-origi


    GotG
    IMG
    http://armitageuniverse.tumblr.com/...an-what-is-your-most


    HCF
    GIF
    http://close-to-the-metal.tumblr.com/post/97774110391


    LP and other roles
    IMG
    http://3intheam.tumblr.com/post/97455222464
    http://kkwings.tumblr.com/...ed-from-world-screen
    http://kkwings.tumblr.com/...ed-from-world-screen
    http://maivolchica.tumblr.com/post/97634858981
    http://gedebe.tumblr.com/...rk-at-comic-con-2014
    http://legilimentis.tumblr.com/post/97671952068
    http://legilimentis.tumblr.com/post/97722322638
    http://maivolchica.tumblr.com/post/97634858981

    GIF
    http://armitageuniverse.tumblr.com/...-late-night-o-part-2
    http://claud51.tumblr.com/post/97821400117
    http://inquire-within-yourself.tumblr.com/post/97800670528
    http://armitageuniverse.tumblr.com/...nment-weekly-hideout

    Fanart
    http://yassena.tumblr.com/...96/garrett-by-izmara

    Farnie
    http://thekreeempire.tumblr.com/...5/everyone-loves-pie

















































    Supreme EI/HTR
    http://rebelerik.tumblr.com/post/97511011029
    http://leepace-daily.tumblr.com/post/97672432450
    http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/...05454014859244f6.jpg





    Fan of both books and movies; I am a lurker by nature though it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


    Heart Thranduil Appreciation
    Tis true: more appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies. Threadcount: XIII
    I | II | III | IV | V | VI | VII | VIII | IX | X | XI | XII


    Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A writing triangle with Avandel and Kerewyn)
    Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


    "BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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    Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk




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    Tol Eressea


    Sep 20 2014, 1:53pm

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    That's funny!!! Laugh This is why I love Fan-art!

    Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 20 2014, 5:32pm

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    I hadn't noticed before but he has indeed extensive protective armour on his legs. Must be vital not to get an injury to your legs, beside the fact you have a major aorta running through it, it's also very inconvenient when you have to run for safety Tongue

    When I think of it, it's rather strange Legolas barely had any protective armour on him during the war of the ring. He put on some bits and pieces of Rohan armour when he was in Helm's Deep but that's it. I know it must be rather inconvenient to cross country with a fellowship while wearing your heavy and (somewhat) motion restricted armour, but you'd expect he would have learned a bit from his Daddy and put on some real gear when he was prepping for the big battle.

    PJ and his mug, I imagine he has an assistant who keeps filling the cup for him. Not too bad of a job since you are able to watch all the scenes up close when they're being filmed.


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 20 2014, 5:39pm

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    I only saw it once (and was disappointed I didn't see any Trandy/Leggy in it) but I didn't get the feeling I was being completely spoiled beforehand. But perhaps that's personal and I understand your reasoning for not wanting to watch the DOS EE trailer and let the magic happen when you get to see all the lovely EE scenes for the very first time.



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    And I am confident we will see His Magnificence in some new EE scenes.


    I like your confidence and you know what... maybe I should be a little more confident as well. Why not include more Thrandy?? Surely those two scenes with Thranduil in it were amazing and had a good subplot to add to the entire story.

    Oh don't worry I haven't seen DOS in months either. I'm very patient when I want to be and, like you, I want to be wauwed when I see the EE in november. Plus it also helps having all the Thranduil-scenes on youtube so I can watch them whenever I feel like it (and that's quite often...so perhaps I'm not completely un-spoiled before the EE) Angelic

    Curious for the Tauriel photos you found in the cellar...


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 20 2014, 5:44pm

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    I see you changed your avatar, it looks lovely (how could it not with the main subject being His Fabulousness Heart) His hair looks amazing in your avatar as well (so silvery (Angelic) and shiny), nicely done!



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    So apt. Hey, did you see the one about Thranduil giving Elrond a headache with his drinking habit?Tongue


    Not sure I know it already. Care to share? Smile


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 20 2014, 6:06pm

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    You know I have absolutely no idea what version my IE is running on. But I recently bought a new laptop (last month) so surely it should be the latest and greatest version?
    Ah maybe it has nothing to do with my browser after all, I dunno. Maybe it's just my own incompetence of being able to adjust to all the buttons, rules and regulations that come with a different forum than the ones I'm used to.

    However (as you might have noticed) I recently learned to create (workable) clicky's (yeey), thanks to your advice. Although admittedly they're still a bit of a pain because when I copy an URL, it copies the http:// along with it. And seeing the img/link boxes have the http:// pre-programmed for you.... you might imagine the mistake I repeatedly made when I copied + pasted the url's blindly into the textbox. Ah I know I should have paid more attention to these type of silly things, but I can't get over the fact that it's just so unpratical. When these type of things happen I tend to blame the (lack of) user-friendly buttons or imputs of the board makeup (rather than myself Angelic).
    Maybe I'm just a big nag (probably hihi), but that's how I'm experiencing things so far. But of course I endure all these little pains for the sake of the one and only Heart. And I must say I have already grown very fond of all the friendly and interesting replies from the Thralls as well. So that's worth putting up with some of the misery that comes with elaborate posting.


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 20 2014, 6:12pm

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    Hello Rumple (mind if I call you that?) and welcome welcome to the wonderful world of appreciating the amazingness of our Elvenking together. The more the merrier!



    In Reply To
    I completely agree with Mariel: I don't feel like I have anything worth adding, but I adore coming here and viewing the Glory that is Thranduil. :-)



    And don't fret about it. I know exactly how you feel! Every day I feel I have absolutely nothing of value to add to this thread, except maybe share a couple of Pretty! imagery. But I don't think anyone has held that against me so far, so please, feel free to have your say anytime (that goes for Mariel as well!) Smile


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 20 2014, 6:25pm

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         Thanks for the clear crop [In reply to]  

    And thanks for noticing my first working clicky, hooray!! Smile

    This confirms my thoughts btw... look at his swords that are now clearly visible thanks to your posted image. They're exactly the same! Or at least they appear to be, same details on both the handle and the blade itself. Therefor we can assume our theory on wether he'd probably be able to use both swords with either hand just as effectively, was correct. He just is that good of a swordsman Heart I wonder who thought him though, his dad maybe?



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    What happens here do you think? Is this where Thranduil reunites with Legolas?


    I was wondering that same thing, seeing as Legolas is not too far of I imagine they will have a shared scene somewhere in this environment, don't you think? You have no idea how badly I want them to have more scenes together. And I can't wait until the moment where Legolas and Thranduil meet in BOFA. Probably even fight together side by side as well. That would be absolutely EPIC!!!


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 20 2014, 6:31pm

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    But I did feel I had nothing much to contribute beyond general squeeing - not being terribly academically minded, I felt so under-read and uneducated on Tolkien, compared with so many of the fine folk here, and I've shown myself up plenty of times with my comparative ignorance. But I guess after a while, I felt more confident in taking part. It's been a wonderful ride.



    Heart Thanks for sharing my feelings concerning posting on TORn, it's exactly as how you just described it. I feel I have nothing to contribute except the occasional quee here and there. But I guess that's what makes it fun as well, squeeing, thudding and getting heart-attacks about random posted Pretty! is so much more fun doing together.

    BTW, I enjoy your little discussion about the Silm-related topics. Even if I don't reply to them I like reading them nonethelessSmile


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 20 2014, 6:36pm

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    He just looks so good in his GotG period Heart


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 20 2014, 6:57pm

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    your overly exciting and absolutely positive stance concerning the Gandy/Gladdy scene (hehe)

    Angelic
    http://img.photobucket.com/...4370_zps2da853f8.jpg
    (I'll just put this in a link)

    Oh and about Celeborn.... I think he just rocks as a character. I don't know why I just mentioned this, maybe it's because the ridiculous pairing ppl seem to do with G&G that imo have absolutely no solid foundation and is actually quite insulting. Aaaanyway back to Celeborn. I recently read an article about him, describing his character and reasons behind some of the decisions he makes. It includes a bit of Thranduil/Sindar as well. I loved it and it gave me a better understanding of the character. And seeing as it had something to do with Thranduil as well (being both Sindar, both rulers of an Elven realm and -possibly- related) I was intrigued. So if you would like to read it someday, here's the link Smile http://www.elfringham.dsl.pipex.com/lotrfic/celessay.html




    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 20 2014, 7:00pm

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    Have I mentioned before I *love* Leggy/Thrandy pictures? WinkHeart


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 20 2014, 7:02pm

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    These big Elk's ever existed... that's some big ass Elk Shocked I probably just now understand the magnitude of the beast and therefor the impression it must have made riding your massive War-Elk into battle. Good choice Thranduil Heart


    VValar
    Gondor


    Sep 20 2014, 7:30pm

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    Thanks once again for the WW. Had fun watching all the links and unwrapping the presents Heart

    http://fuckyeahasgardians.tumblr.com/post/97488618865/x
    Oh yes yes that look of focus. He looks so fierce Heart And I like you choose that pic to be your avie.

    http://ichisideblog.tumblr.com/...-to-be-put-on-tumblr
    LOL SlySlySly 'they must be starving' hehe. You get what you asked for Thorin!

    http://dwimmerlaiks.tumblr.com/...-of-the-silvan-elves
    http://glorfindely.tumblr.com/post/58743357991
    Ok I find this image of Oropher completely disturbing LOL. And I'll tell you why. If you watch the first season of Game of Thrones you'll know that the character portrayed as Ororpher in these images is in fact the very annoying Viserys Targaryen, a spineless brute who would sell even his own sister (which he did) to end up on the throne. http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Viserys_Targaryen Oh and he doesn't survive the first season, so that's the only thing he and Oropher have in common Unimpressed He's just a meany and an idiot and I actually cheered when he died (a rather painful death). Oropher is just nothing like this guy, at all. Ppl should not compare the village idiot to the Splendor that is Thranduil's father Angelic I'm aware you haven't watched GoT yet, but now you know. And what has been seen cannot be unseen Evil
    Maybe Oropher would look more something like this (who knows)?


    Aaaaaand moving on to more Pretty!

    http://thecrownlesskings.tumblr.com/post/97777763294
    Oh yes yes Heart *THUD*

    Always liking the farnie department!

    http://maedhrosmaitimo.tumblr.com/...star-shadow-magician
    Have no idea what they're saying but love the 'I love mirkwood' apron

    http://gimmethehobbit.tumblr.com/...us-47-first-previous
    LOL again, Poor Thrandy degrading to a mere 4. I imagine he would be very upset by this news (for he at least is an 11 on a scale from 0-10)

    http://austaniteatsea3.tumblr.com/post/97941266998
    NED! Heart Bringing the dead of a loved one quickly, effectively with a little comfort food on the side.

    http://robyntrower.deviantart.com/...speedpaint-452813055
    Wauw, saved it!

    http://close-to-the-metal.tumblr.com/post/97774110391
    Hmmm remind me to watch HCF when I'm finished with PD.... Angelic

    Supreme EI/HTR
    Hehe there it is! Had to look closely to find it. Nothing wrong with a little LP under the shower Heart
    Oh and no responses yet on the clickerdyclick of Thrandy and his lassie Heart



    Eruvandi
    Tol Eressea


    Sep 20 2014, 9:07pm

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    I find I have to slow myself down and really READ if I don't want to get confused later, which results in wandering mind syndrome (and no, I refuse to acknowledge I have ADD), and I have to go back and forth to be sure I got it straight (which keeps for oh, 24 hours if I'm lucky) so it takes a bit to get anywhere with the SilmCrazy

    Same here. I don't even bother trying to read fast because I know if I do, I'll miss stuff. I've never been diagnosed as ADD, but my mind wanders a ridiculous amount and if there's noise of stuff going on around me, I can't focus on reading. Thus is why I get peeved with doctor's/dentists/other places who insist on having a TV or radio going constantly in the waiting room.Unsure Seriously, if I have to sit and wait somewhere for a long time, I'd rather make progress on a book I enjoy than be forced to watch soap operas or hear a never ending loop of medical factoids.Crazy


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    I think Thingol's displeasure was also partly a feeling of insult that a mere Man dared to even desire his daughter, who's essentially of the very highest of high birth, being half Maia and the child of himself, the only Elf in all ME accounted among the Calaquendi. If the stranger had been a fellow-Elf, especially a noble, he might just be very slightly less peeved though I do think there's not many possible candidates who would not trigger him to set the fetch-ye-a-Silmaril challenge/quest/thingy. Though I think he wasn't genuinely looking to send Beren to his death, just deter him from thinking beyond his station. But then he must be uberly shaken by the "breach" in the defences. Melian did foretell that one of great doom was going to pass through the Girdle regardless. So maybe there was an element of averting the fates after all. Interesting.Smile

    Good points all around.Smile I doubt Thingol wanted to give he daughter to anyone, but short of a dwarf or orc, a lowly Man was probably one of the least desirable options.

    I totally agree that Thingol's actions may have been trying to "avert the fates". To connect it to Thranduil I think his closing the boarders in DOS is basically him doing the same thing. Deep down he knows the darkness is trying to come back and like Thingol, he's lying to himself by thinking he can hold it off forever and live in a bubble of safety while the rest of the world burns. It reminds me a little of TTT when Merry and Pippin thought they had failed to get the Ents involved in the war. Pippin tried to suggest that they could always just go back home but Merry responded, "The fires of Isengard will spread, and the forests of Tuckborough and Buckland will burn. And all that was once great and good in this world will be gone. There won't *be* a Shire, Pippin." In Pippin's case it was his innocence that caused him to think the Shire would be unaffected. In Thranduil's case he is being blinded by fear and pride.

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    I found it uber interesting that Thingol essentially changed his mind about Men and took Turin on as a foster-son he loved like his own. And Turin in turn turned out to be a "progressive" influence on his court, at least in terms of how war is conducted, though sadly he is the catalyst for everlasting change for Thingol and Doriath.

    Ah, I remember this from reading The Children of Hurin before the Silm Read-Along started! I've found it interesting too, to be able to look back in time to see what Thingol was like before Turin showed up. His indifference towards Men and then his reaction to Beren actually really surprised me because he was downright nice to Turin and his family. He basically went from seething with anger and threatening death to being really welcoming and downright protective of those Men/women who came to live in Doriath. Like with Morwen when she decided she absolutely positively HAD to go looking for Turin. Thingol didn't want to let her leave because it wasn't safe but she got so sad he had to let her go, lest she mourn herself to death. Even then he sent like, ten elves to follow her and make sure she didn't get hurt whether she chose to come back or not...I actually thought it was kinda sweet that he cared that much about her safety.Heart


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    I see a little bit of parallel in Tauriel essentially holding that same position in Thranduil's story we see unfolding in the movies, though hopefully with less depressing causes and outcomes.Unimpressed

    Hmm. I guess I see what you mean, but Tauriel has a much different personality than Turin and as far as we know, wasn't cursed by Morgoth to have everything she and her family put their hands to go wrong. Either way, I don't think PJ could reasonably do anything to Tauriel that would be as depressing, or for that matter convoluted, as what happened to Turin. At least, I hope not.Pirate

    "Home is behind the world ahead
    And there are many paths to tread
    Through shadow to the edge of night
    Until the stars are all alight.

    Mist and shadow
    Cloud and shade
    All shall fade
    All shall fade"



    mariel
    Lorien

    Sep 20 2014, 10:22pm

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    Great article. Have to say I hadn't given him much thought before. Thanks for the link.


    dernwyn
    Forum Admin / Moderator


    Sep 21 2014, 12:53am

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    *tsk* You've done it again! Evil

    I was just taking a look at how the Army is besieging RA's twitter account today ("One Beard to Woo them All, One Place to Find Them, One Beard to Bring them All And In the Twittersphere Bind Them"), then came over here to find you've once again beseiged the Hobbit board with "Elf-pretties"! Looks like Thralldoms reign! Laugh

    Okay, Thralls, time for...Number XIV!


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