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Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part X
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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 24 2014, 11:31am

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     And wanna see the fact? [In reply to]  


(Clicky! Interactive)


I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A tag-team fanfic with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 24 2014, 11:34am

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     I live to perv, I mean serve [In reply to]  

Glad to see you back Smile

That book is looking mighty fine! Been watching the online stores here but so far, it's pre-order list priceFrown

I remade the linky as the one you made had funky url code: http://www.wetanz.com/...t-and-design-signed/

ETA:



I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A tag-team fanfic with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


(This post was edited by Lurker in the Mirk on Aug 24 2014, 11:35am)


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 24 2014, 11:38am

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     *eviller laugh* [In reply to]  

(from TAVCool)

It's LP under Thranduil's badass amour, no body faking needed

Well Thralls, did that get your attention?

Thanks to Avandel's remark about visuals (and the term body faking) and Thranduil in his armour (in this post on this thread she started in the Off-Topic forum)...

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Or Thranduil:



And if you look at a larger version of this, or various up close images of the elves - that's Lee Pace under that cloth. No body faking

... I got to posting *ahem*supporting evidence that no body faking is needed. For your analysis and comment please Smile


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LOL body faking... got to remember that term. Truly, LP has the frame and the mass... au naturel Heart

Strapping shoulders...check


Great arms... check


Broad back... check


Height... check




I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A tag-team fanfic with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


VValar
Gondor


Aug 24 2014, 12:55pm

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If only this was an *actual* photo of LP's Thranduil in the hot tub Heart


VValar
Gondor


Aug 24 2014, 12:56pm

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That's some weird looking pic *LOL* It looks like the wine is popping out of his head. What has been seen cannot be un-seen Evil


VValar
Gondor


Aug 24 2014, 12:59pm

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     That's some mighty arms you've got Thranduil [In reply to]  

I read that the other day in one of the former TA-threads. Very intriguing analysis I might say SmileHeartHeart
I mean check out those biceps *hello* Blush


VValar
Gondor


Aug 24 2014, 1:01pm

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     Squeeeeeee [In reply to]  


In Reply To

...over on this thread on Off Topic

...which might be of some small interest to you all...

*walks away whistling innocently*




Many thanks dear Heart


VValar
Gondor


Aug 24 2014, 1:10pm

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VValar, I totally adore that “I have a Jacuzzi” pic! It just so suits his expression somehow. SlySly

Teehee yes now you mention it, it is a very suitable screencap for when he would actually say it.



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was all on my lonesome, getting over my rotten cold and sinus issues - I even had an eye infection and couldn't see properly, and no one to look after me... and now you've sent some gorgeous EI pics, I can imagine LP and TH delivering hot soup and shoulder rubs, am feeling immediately better.

Poor girl I hope you feel better soon. What a cup of hot soup and some pretty pictures can do for ya, eh? Wink
Just a little get-well-soon picture




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I am also liking the fan art of Glorfindel earlier in this thread. Though I can’t see Sandro Kopp (the coronation elf) in that role. I mean, I can see him in it, I just have a different face in my mind’s eye, and can’t put a name to it, yet…

Oh you guys actually know the actor's name of the blond Elf with Elrond? See, you all know so much, I truly feel like a newbie in here.
It's funny how we all picture a different Glorfindel. Too bad they didn't film him in the LotR.


VValar
Gondor


Aug 24 2014, 1:12pm

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     Mirkwood Spiders [In reply to]  

As a true arachnafobiac I would freak out if I came across these HUGE Mirkwood spiders
http://talesfromthecards.files.wordpress.com/...rc-daniel-goecke.jpg


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 24 2014, 1:13pm

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     LoL [In reply to]  

Yeah, but other than that, it's not a bad effort. Just virtual PS that bit out, you'll be fineSmile


I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A tag-team fanfic with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 24 2014, 1:14pm

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     Oh yeah [In reply to]  

Just Thuddelicious!


I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A tag-team fanfic with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 24 2014, 1:23pm

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     Mwoar! [In reply to]  






hmm... blue eyes? Or lighting? Been wondering about the blue tinge and lightness of Thranduil's eyes since LP mentioned icy grey contacts somewhere?






I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A tag-team fanfic with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 24 2014, 1:26pm

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     Awww [In reply to]  

How about a little saccharine to shake it off?


That was a very image though.


I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A tag-team fanfic with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 24 2014, 1:28pm

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     Addendum [In reply to]  

So came across this GIF of LP and his sister apparently attending Emmy


I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A tag-team fanfic with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


(This post was edited by Lurker in the Mirk on Aug 24 2014, 1:28pm)


Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 24 2014, 6:02pm

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     *runs in and waves* [In reply to]  

can't leave the SUGAR like that tho, so:



runs out again to deal with RL....UnimpressedUnimpressedUnimpressed

"If this is to end in fire, then we will all burn together" - Thorin, The Desolation of Smaug.

Thorinitis: Just that smokey barbecue sizzle on a bed of hot embers on a chill autumn night voice making you do things.




VValar
Gondor


Aug 24 2014, 6:21pm

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     Nice photo's woohoo [In reply to]  

And I like the second from the bottom best HeartSuch contemplating pose. Now picture that with silver long hair, pointy ears and sassy outfit, and that could totally be a TH pose.


VValar
Gondor


Aug 24 2014, 6:22pm

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     Nice of you to drop by [In reply to]  

And separate yourself from those Dwarfs for once Cool
Thnx for the pic!


VValar
Gondor


Aug 24 2014, 7:39pm

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     Such a cute baby Legolas [In reply to]  

Such cuteness all around, little Legolas trying to grab the swag stag Heart


A question just popped into my head by looking at this picture (and wondering what Legolas' mother would have looked like).
Does anyone seem to notice that, although described in TH as having golden hair, Thranduil has silver hair in the film?

Indoors it does indeed look like a mixture of gold/silver, but when you take a good look at it with natural light (outdoors), he really does have silver hair









Do you suppose it's a little error of the crew of TH, or do you think they will adjust the colouring of the shots for the final movie?


When you compare it with Legolas' hair, it's obvious he has a different colour than his father. Instead of silver, he appears to have golden hair.
This is Legolas in natural light (outside) in TH



In FotR



Legolas in RotK indoors. It still looks much blonder than, for example, the white/silver hair of Gandalf
http://images2.fanpop.com/...151835-1920-1088.jpg


I read this on the net, concerning Elven hair colour (Tolkien gateway):

In general, the Vanyar were golden-haired, and other Elves (including the Noldor, Sindar, and Avari) had dark (brown) or even black hair, although some of the Teleri, including Celeborn, had silver hair (.....) Additionally, a silver hair colour existed in the royal houses of the Sindar, with Thingol, Círdan and Celeborn all described as having silver hair.


Seeing Thranduil is Teleri, and there is no record of Teleri Elves having golden hair, it would seem that he is related to the royal house of the Sindar for he indeed does share the same trait of having silver hair.
(That's still a bit up for debate since Tolkien didn't state this directly. However he did leave behind many pieces of evidence that one can link to each other to eventually come to said conclusion. There is more to it than just the haircolor. An amazing piece of writing about this topic can be found here for those who are interested: http://kiryatanmeres.blogspot.nl/).


So if the moviemakers were thinking somewhere along the same line, it would explain the silver hair they gave Thranduil (as opposed to the golden hair he was descriped with in TH).


Now getting back to Legolas. Though most of the golden-haired Elves were Vanyar, there were also two exeptions to the rule:


The golden hair colour is sometimes implied among the other Elves: Amroth, a Sindarin Elf of Lórien is one such case, whose hair is described as "bright" and shining like a spark of gold in the sun.

and

Another Noldo with unusual hair colour was Glorfindel, whose hair is described as of "shining gold" in colour.


So, what's the deal here? Why do Thranduil and Legolas seem to differ (moviewise) in hair colour?
Do you reckon it has something to do with the lighting and adjustments that still need to be made to the final film? Or do you think what you see is what you get? We haven't really seen any extended footage of Thranduil being outside, except for the teaser trailer that has presumably already been editted. And he really does have silver hair in the trailer.
And how come Legolas seem to have golden hair? Is he one of the exceptions Tolkien wrote about, like Glorfindel or Amroth? Or maybe his mother is Vanyar(related) and he got his looks from her? That might be an interesting theory, as most people assume Thranduil's wife was Silvan (and does not have golden/silver hair).



Or maybe I'm just far-stretching this haircolor-thing way too much and I'm totally missing something here Evil I'm nowhere near an expert on Tolkien's writings and there is SO much I don't know yet about the amazing world he created.
But I hope I made sense and I'm really interested to know what you guys think of this!


VValar
Gondor


Aug 24 2014, 7:41pm

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     Beautiful poster [In reply to]  

Of the two sexiest Elves alive Heart





And I'm aware that this beautiful little photoshopping to create the same lighting-effect in two different pictures is not really helping me stating my point about the different haircolours father and son have either Tongue
But look just at it, it's pretty HeartHeart


(This post was edited by VValar on Aug 24 2014, 7:44pm)


Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 25 2014, 1:01am

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     Not my fault [In reply to]  

Anyway, not only did you bring up wet damp moist Thorin *wipes drool* you actually posted a picture of it *looks for towel*Wink



Now I gotta go clean a cat box, but so more hit and run T & L art:



!

Too bad so far can't find these larger FrownHeart

From https://www.pinterest.com/pin/546202261029210641/


Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 25 2014, 1:49am

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     "Set that water on fire" *snert* [In reply to]  

Too funny!Laugh

Although, I don't think there's any way to improve on the awesome facial expressions Lindir and Elrond give in the movie. IMO Elrond looked like: "Eru, give me strength..." and Lindir looked all worried like, "Oh, my goodness, I think Lord Elrond's head is going to explode!"Wink

"Home is behind the world ahead
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadow to the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight.

Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall fade"



Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 25 2014, 1:56am

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So much great art! Thanks, Avandel!Cool

"Home is behind the world ahead
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadow to the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight.

Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall fade"



Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 25 2014, 2:02am

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Of course, autumn may be my fave season (spring being equal or a close second) so that's no surprise!Smile I just love how the artist did the brightly colored leaves and the steaming cup Thranduil is holding really evokes the feeling of that wonderfully crisp, cool autumn air. Magical!Heart

"Home is behind the world ahead
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadow to the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight.

Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall fade"



Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 25 2014, 2:40am

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Here's a lovely b&w rendition. Also, more variations of this stunning shot.Heart





For Eruvandi(?) and yeah, even those dwarven apologists need to have some reason for smiling Angelic


Aaaaaand, one for the aggrieved masses awaiting December... and a proper trailer!


I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!. (A tag-team fanfic with Avandel and Kerewyn)
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), two, three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback, four, five (new, posted 20 August)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBotFA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Kerewyn
Rohan


Aug 25 2014, 3:14am

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     Hair colour [In reply to]  

I had always thought of Thranduil as being something of a chameleon in his surroundings. In his throne room, his hair seems to have a golden hue, which is supported by his the gold undertone of his robe, and the warm amber hues of the palace surrounds and lighting.
In his chambers, his robe and his hair seem to blend into the silvery bark with mauve hints in surrounding organic pillars.
And here in the snow, white and silver – both the silver of snow glimmer and of armour, with the blueness of cold climate carried through in his garment. Incidentally, I had previously overlooked that he has a gem on his brow! Heart

I do love how Elven crowns and head-pieces carry most of their weight (slight as it might be) on the back of the head rather than the brow. You can see this too with the head-pieces that Arwen wears. (sorry am not supporting this with pics, due to posting quickly from work!)


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So if the moviemakers were thinking somewhere along the same line, it would explain the silver hair they gave Thranduil (as opposed to the golden hair he was descriped with in TH).

But I like this. I do note they didn’t think along those lines for Celeborn’s look though. I believe his hair IIRC was light brown or honey blonde.

That is one seriously interesting blog post you linked to! I’ve had to speed-read a little while at work, but am bookmarking it for more intense study later. I particularly like the brief analysis of Thranduil’s name, and the meaning of “kindred” in the text.



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Oh you guys actually know the actor's name of the blond Elf with Elrond? See, you all know so much, I truly feel like a newbie in here.

Well I do – I’ve met the guy, at a very small and casual con in Australia. SmileHe is Tilda Swinton’s partner btw, they met on the Narnia set in NZ, where he played a centaur.



"Thou speakest of thralldom. If thralldom it be, thou canst not escape it..."

(This post was edited by Kerewyn on Aug 25 2014, 3:15am)

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