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Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part VIII

Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 17 2014, 5:23am

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     Thranduil Appreciation Thread Part VIII  

The seventh Thranduil Appreciation Thread has just reached the post limit, so here's the eighth iteration.


Any and all appreciation of Thranduil and everything related to him happens here, so feel free to jump in at any time!
All Thranduil Thralls, or appreciating non-Thralls are welcome.Smile




The Thranduil Appreciation thread count:

I (Originating thread and II by Rowan Greene)
II
III (Threads III through VI by Lurker in the Mirk)
IV
V
VI
VII
(Thread by Eruvandi)

Credit goes to Eowyn of Penns Woods for the "official" Thranduil Thrall moniker.



Keeping track of the appreciation
Caught off-guard at how much you've missed? 1 simple click will ensure you won't miss another update again. Put this thread on watch! Locate the "Watch thread" button to the top and right of this post (button 3 of the 5 threads buttons you see) and click it.



Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


(This post was edited by Lurker in the Mirk on Jul 17 2014, 5:29am)


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 17 2014, 5:36am

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     Fanart! [In reply to]  

Here's a lovely piece to start the thread

(Clickety, with additional pieces of that disagreeable Dwarf Tongue and the Hobbit)


Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 17 2014, 9:44pm

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     Woot woot! [In reply to]  

Number eight, wow! We sure do talk a lot!Wink

I don't have a whole lot of time right now, but I'll be totally be back later to continue the appreciation. Yay us! (Here's hoping the BotFA trailer comes really soon and will have some Thranduil stuff help us get to appreciation thread 9 and 10 in record time!)Angelic

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 17 2014, 10:51pm

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     *snigger* [In reply to]  

His Majesty is puzzled....



Kim
Valinor


Jul 17 2014, 11:03pm

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     Hey! [In reply to]  

Who are you calling disagreeable? Mad Well, I suppose I should thank you for linking to the nice fan art including the oh so Majestic one in this thread.



"Jagatud rõõm on topelt rõõm - a shared joy is a double joy". ~Estonian saying


“As such, you will address His Majesty as His Majesty, the Lord of Silver Fountains, the King of Carven Stone, the King Beneath the Mountain, the Lion of Erebor, the High King of the Dwarves, the True Treasure of Erebor, the Face that Launched 10,000 Sighs, or Thorin the Majestic..."


http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_collapsed


VeArkenstone
Lorien

Jul 17 2014, 11:21pm

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     Have not been on for a while, but I just had this feeling that I would be [In reply to]  

be looking for VIII, not VII, I was right. Just went all the way through VII, and have a few comments/questions:

Thank you, Murk, for the info on the WETA tapestry! Going to order next week. Looked into some of the maps as well (I love maps!), but they are they are a little pricey and I will have to wait on those.

Murk, what missing Stag scene? And someone posted in VII that they can't wait to see the Elfs kill it, but what the "it" was, I do not know. Are the Elfs going to kill a Stag in DOS EE or BO5A? If they are, I just hope its not a white stag!

Eruvandi: I love Virginia as well, I lived there for about 10 years, I always had a job, was never bored, and traveled throughout the state quite a bit visiting Founding Fathers houses, Civil War battlefields, etc. That began my interest in history. It is my all time favorite place I have ever lived, and I would move back there in a heartbeat. I heard that Lee Pace has a house close to Virginia Beach but I cannot confirm that.

Kinslaying, and the Nolder, yes, this makes sense. And something really bad happened between Oropher and Gil-galad, who is Galadriel's brother, and he had a strong dislike (possibly hatred) for both of them. Hopefully, will have more time for reading over these next few weeks, both UT and the Sil!.

On Thranduil's fighting Dragon's in the North, I could have sworn I read something about that a long time ago, but do not remember where. Does anyone know anything about this?

Please, call me Ve.


(This post was edited by VeArkenstone on Jul 17 2014, 11:28pm)


Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 17 2014, 11:50pm

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     LOL Kim dwarves get everywhere [In reply to]  

Behold the glory, celebrated in artwork around the globe, in all types of media. I think Lurker meant to say "most agreeable and fair of countenance is the glorious Heir of Durin, without whom Thranduil's long life is unbearably dull":



Tho I will say that artwork link was so nice, I looked it up - there's more ME stuff at the SOURCE (artist David Deb, who evidently has done some ME trading cards!!!!)
http://daviddeb.deviantart.com/art/Thorin-467258973



Love this!!!!HeartHeartHeart

Well, Ok, since this IS a Thranduil TA thread, and Thranduil is a WORTHY adversary (potential friend?) of Thorin's:




Which hopefully haven't been posted beforeUnsure


Kim
Valinor


Jul 18 2014, 5:12am

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     Oh well that explains it [In reply to]  


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I think Lurker meant to say "most agreeable and fair of countenance is the glorious Heir of Durin, without whom Thranduil's long life is unbearably dull":



Yes, that makes much more sense, especially in light of this wonderful new piece of artwork you've found - wow. And I guess those ones of Thranduil aren't too bad, if you like that sort of thing. Wink





"Jagatud rõõm on topelt rõõm - a shared joy is a double joy". ~Estonian saying


“As such, you will address His Majesty as His Majesty, the Lord of Silver Fountains, the King of Carven Stone, the King Beneath the Mountain, the Lion of Erebor, the High King of the Dwarves, the True Treasure of Erebor, the Face that Launched 10,000 Sighs, or Thorin the Majestic..."


http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum_view_collapsed


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 18 2014, 10:33am

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     To cheer you up, Eruvandi (Leggy + Thranddy) ...something from TA VII [In reply to]  

you might have missed it so here it is again Smile

"those photo shoots where kids swap clothes with their parents"


Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 18 2014, 10:43am

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     Blasted scammin' dwarves [In reply to]  




Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 18 2014, 10:49am

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     Uh... I suppose the questions were for me [In reply to]  

So here goes:

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Murk, what missing Stag scene? And someone posted in VII that they can't wait to see the Elfs kill it, but what the "it" was, I do not know. Are the Elfs going to kill a Stag in DOS EE or BO5A? If they are, I just hope its not a white stag!

Ve, I think the missing Stag scene was from what we discussed in thread VI... here? I'm not sure I know what you're referring to about the killing though. Can you provide the link to the post where it was?

btw, call me Lurker, that's what the other Thralls do Smile



Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 18 2014, 10:51am

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     *sniggles* [In reply to]  

Angelic you're welcome.


Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


(This post was edited by Lurker in the Mirk on Jul 18 2014, 10:53am)


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 18 2014, 11:22am

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     Evidently Dwarves are hard of hearing and poor of sight (actually fanart!) [In reply to]  

though that last piece of Thranduil is a nice find Smile

And of course for counter-balance in Thranduil's own appreciation thread HeartHeartHeart (it is though to find good fresh ones of the ElvenkingUnsure)










(wallpaper)


and some sniggers



... and since there's no getting away from the Disagreeable Dwarf's encroachment... just for Avandel's mental balance Tongue




*PSST: you checked your PMs yet?*


Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 19 2014, 12:02am

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     :D [In reply to]  

Why do I suddenly feel the urge to say, Yo Thranduil! Wassup homie?Wink

Meanwhile Leggy looks gooooood in a suit!Blush

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 19 2014, 12:36am

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     And yet...Thranduil feels a strange wistfulness... [In reply to]  















Shocked But at least Bilbo hath SmaugLaughSlyHeartHeartHeart


Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 19 2014, 1:11am

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     Do we get to pet Smaug too? [In reply to]  

Wink

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 19 2014, 1:42am

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     *grins* Eruvandi, just for you [In reply to]  



Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 20 2014, 12:36am

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     Lol! // [In reply to]  

 

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 20 2014, 12:59am

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     LOL Eruvandi - the Valar protects fangirls! [In reply to]  

I'm sure the they ducked in time. Probably. At least they are out of our kings' hair for the moment.Evil

But moths to the flame...Wink


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 20 2014, 2:16am

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     Though reason quickly supplanted the strange wistfulness and he was himself again [In reply to]  

  









Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Kerewyn
Rohan


Jul 20 2014, 6:49am

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     Quality Fili time at Melbourne Comic Con [In reply to]  

Thralls, and visitors, I have finally posted my account of the above, and you can go straight to it here:
http://newboards.theonering.net/...?post=758690;#758690

Heart

'People don't know where I begin and latex ends, which has always been an ambition for me.' (Martin Freeman)


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 20 2014, 7:04am

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     *waves* Hi Kerewyn! [In reply to]  

Been busy? You've not been around much.

Read your report, and it's lovely! Thanks! Smile


Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Kerewyn
Rohan


Jul 20 2014, 7:44am

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     Hi - yes, was out of the house much of the weekend [In reply to]  

And time at home was a slow enjoyable getting to grips with the Sil's Ainulindale. Wink ...and just now, trying to figure out how posting to tumblr works. I am starting to see how the tags work... (and there I was, thinking it might work like Facebook - but where's the 'comments' tag?? Laugh )

On relevance note: looking at the SDCC line-up, looks like LP is not going to be in official attendance after all, unless he is a surprise drop-in. Wasn't there a hint a few months ago that he might be there?

'People don't know where I begin and latex ends, which has always been an ambition for me.' (Martin Freeman)


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 20 2014, 8:04am

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     Heh... I don't think I'll ever love tumblr [In reply to]  

but its serviceable. Smile the readalong is really humming along it seems.


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On relevance note: looking at the SDCC line-up, looks like LP is not going to be in official attendance after all, unless he is a surprise drop-in. Wasn't there a hint a few months ago that he might be there?

Yup. Oh well, let's see then.




Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 20 2014, 8:09am

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     Woodland Weekend extension: The Fall (addendum from TA VII) [In reply to]  

From the "Woodland Weekend extension: The Fall" subthread in TA VII, the writer of the "In Defense of Tarsem's The Fall" has written a follow-up, just as thoughtful too: More on Tarsem Singh’s The Fall: Beethoven, Back Braces and Blue Cities.



(This one's for Kerewyn Smile)


Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


(This post was edited by Lurker in the Mirk on Jul 20 2014, 8:10am)


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 20 2014, 8:17am

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     Just trailer anticipation [In reply to]  

Great set of TH GIFs. Can't wait either!




Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 20 2014, 8:21am

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     Addendum: pretty much the warm spot will be gone all soon anyway (GIFs) [In reply to]  

Yup, that's how it will be all right, feckless dwarf Tongue


Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


(This post was edited by Lurker in the Mirk on Jul 20 2014, 8:22am)


Kerewyn
Rohan


Jul 20 2014, 10:59am

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     Such nice arms :) (response on The Fall) [In reply to]  

As the writer says: There is more to his sleeveless tunic than the designer's desire to show off Lee Pace's bare arms (not that we didn't appreciate that,) Heart

Another great piece from this reviewer. And even more symbolism! The Bandit's tunic representing his chest X-rays. And that Roy thinks Alexandria's letter is gibberish when we, the audience, can read it. If Roy is "closed off to the power of love", is this why his girlfriend has left him? I did find that even after two viewings, I wasn't fully clear on the girlfriend part of the story. We're left to put two and two together ourselves.

The execution scene beside the Taj. I have stood looking down from that wall. There is a rather murky looking river down there, devoid of passers by except for a few in boats. It wouldn't have been too difficult to film from that angle.

Amusingly, I did note on The Fall's DVD extras, showing the Indian location shoots underway, they were constantly trying to clear the large crowds of onlookers Laugh

'People don't know where I begin and latex ends, which has always been an ambition for me.' (Martin Freeman)


Kerewyn
Rohan


Jul 21 2014, 8:24am

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     Twin Sword fighting styles [In reply to]  

Naturally we Thralls, weaponry nerds and battle aficionados are excitedly anticipating Thranduil's game-changing twin sword fighting style.


I was watching 'The Chronicles of Narnia' the other night, and notice that Jadis uses twin swords in her fight against Peter.
Video clip here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhzVukK4WkQ

Tilda Swinton gets some nifty moves. A little more posing though than Thranduil will have time for -- as he'll be taking on numerous savage opponents, not one inexperienced teenager.

Also, does anyone know what that ninja-style move is called (does it have a name?) when a pair of swords or knives are twirled / flipped by the user over the back of their hands, usually for effect when completing a move? You can see Kirin Shah doing it here while 'elfing it up', right at very end of this vlog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkfwlcMk-90

Anyone got more double-sword demos to share?


'People don't know where I begin and latex ends, which has always been an ambition for me.' (Martin Freeman)


Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 21 2014, 4:47pm

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     Cloaks and Daggers Thranduil tidbit. (alternate AUJ prologue narration) [In reply to]  

So, before the Silm read along started I was reading Cloaks and Daggers, and stumbled across an itty bitty Thranduil tidbit on page 34. Page 34 is about Bilbo's Props and all over the page there are pictures of things like Bilbo's backpack, travel journal and the Red Book of Westmarch. There are also a couple of pictures of the pages from the Red Book of Westmarch that we see Old Bilbo writing in the AUJ prologue. Well, the writing on those Red Book pages is rather small to say the least, but I decided to read them anyway (with a magnifying glass).

One of them actually seems to be some alternate narration for the AUJ prologue. It's similar to what ended up in the movie, but different at the same time.

In the beginning of AUJ Bilbo says:

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It began long ago, in a land far away to the east, the like of which you will not find in the world today. There was the city of Dale, its markets known far and wide full of the bounties of vine and vale, peaceful and prosperous. For this city lay before the doors of the greatest kingdom in Middle Earth… Erebor. Stronghold of Thror. King Under the Mountain. Mightiest of Dwar Lords. Thror ruled with utter surety, never doubting his house would endure, for his line lay secure in the lives of his son and grandson.

Ah, Frodo...Erebor. Built deep in the mountain itself, the beauty of this fortress city was legend. Its wealth lay in the earth; in precious gems hewn from rock and in great seams of gold, running like rivers through stone. The skill of the dwarves was unequaled, fashioning objects of great beauty out of diamond, emerald, ruby, sapphire…



But the Red Book page featured in Cloaks and Daggers says (bold emphasis mine):

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It began far away in another land…more than two hundred years ago…when life was different and the world was a more peaceful and prosperous place. The road was busy with trade among the peoples of Middle Earth.

Dwarf merchants would make their way north, up the [Vales?] of the Anduin, before taking the road that ran through the vast forest to the east.

In those days the ancient woodland was still known as Greenwood the Great; its pathways were lit by sunshine and swept by soft winds. Thranduil, an Elven King ruled these lands and he welcomed all travelers to his realm.

There was much coming and going between the boarders of Greenwood and two settlements that lay to the North- a small city of Men called Dale and the great Dwarf Kingdom of Erebor.

Erebor, stronghold of Thror; the last King Under the Mountain. The beauty of the city was legend…Its wealth lay in the earth; in precious gems hewn from rock…diamond, emerald, ruby, sapphire…


I find this intriguing.

ETA: Gaaah! I didn't mean to click submit! Stupid computer! I was trying to preview post!

Ok, really quick before it doesn't let me edit the post anymore: I find this intriguing because, IMO it suggests that they had a slightly different opening for AUJ at some point. One that might have shown Greenwood the Great and Thranduil, before the Greenwood turned into Mirkwood and before Thranduil became so much of an isolationist. It probably would have only been a glimpse, but still...the potential! I wonder if they ever filmed that version, or if it was only in writing? Concept art? Something!

There's a little more I wanted to mention, but I'm afraid this thing is going to kick me out so I'll put it in another post in just a second.

*clicks submit on purpose this time*

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



(This post was edited by Eruvandi on Jul 21 2014, 4:54pm)


Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 21 2014, 5:51pm

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     Tidbit part 2 [In reply to]  

Tidbit part 2 is about the second page of the Red Book that is featured in Cloaks and Daggers. It continues on from the first page and appears to be alternate narration for the EE scene of Thranduil in Erebor.

The AUJ EE scene says:

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Thror named it the king’s jewel. He took it as a sign. A sign that his right to rule was divine. All would pay homage to him. Even the great Elven King, Thranduil.

As the great wealth of the dwarves grew, their store of goodwill ran thin. No one knows exactly what began the rift. The elves say the dwarves stole their treasure. The dwarves tell another tale. They say the Elf King refused to give them their rightful pay.
It is sad, Frodo, how old alliances can be broken. How friendships between peoples can be lost…and for what?


Meanwhile, the Red Book page says:

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...and in great seams of gold running like rivers through stone. It was down deep...deep in the heard of the mountain they found it; more precious than any other...the King's jewel!

As the great wealth of the dwarves grew, their store of goodwill ran thin. No-one is sure exactly how it began, but slowly the days turned sour...and the watchful nights closed in.

Some say it was because Thranduil had grown jealous of Thror's great wealth...that Thror's love of gold had grown too fierce; a sickness had begun to grow within him. A sickness of the mind that made him [doubt?] his friends and drive away allies. And where sickness thrives...bad things will follow...

In this case it seems less like they planned to film anything extra and more like they just had the narration worded differently, and part of it was in a different order at some point.

Thoughts on either one of the tidbits?

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 21 2014, 6:26pm

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     My thoughts on both AAAAGH!!! BTW great finds! [In reply to]  

Because if both had been filmed, I think it would have set in place the backstories and the rift a bit more - as even in DOS when Balin says "these are the halls of the Woodland realm - no-one leaves here without the king's consent" implies to me that Balin knew of the elven halls, which would have made sense re a previous trading relationship.

Great, great finds, thank you for posting! HeartHeartHeart

BTW I personally think that Bilbo's EE line "and for what" is cringeworthy for me, and I am glad they cut it from the TE version. For one thing for me it made Bilbo seem self-righteous and pompous, plus as line it is trite IMO. For another, by that time, in that Bilbo wasn't stupid, he would have known re both elves and dwarves there was far more culture and back-history re the conflicts, and there was more there than just fighting over gold and gems between the races. Plus he's holding the Ring, which has affected him, so he would know how an object of power can influence. Yep, I'm glad they cut that line.Unsure


Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 21 2014, 10:55pm

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     But Thorin leaves boot prints on your heart *snigger* [In reply to]  

















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Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 21 2014, 11:12pm

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     ROFLOL [In reply to]  

*grins*CoolSlyLaugh

Hilarious!


Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 22 2014, 12:56am

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     Leggy needs a hug? [In reply to]  

If the cute, blonde, yet depressed elf, really, really, really need a hug I guess I could volunteer to do it. *flying-tackle-hugs Leggy and doesn't let go* It's a tough job but someone has to do it!

Now, where's Thrandy? He looked like he could use a hug too, and group hugs are even better!

*continues hugging Leggy and drags him along on search for Thrandy*Laugh

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 22 2014, 1:24am

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     Legolas DEFINITELY needs a hug [In reply to]  

After all, it's been a really long day. And in DOS it got to be an even longer nightWinkUnsure





Aaagh - I can't keep track of which Thranduil and elf pics have been put up - so hope these are new!UnsureHeart


Kim
Valinor


Jul 22 2014, 3:52am

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     Very interesting tidbits [In reply to]  

thanks for breaking out the magnifying glass! It seems like they played around with the narrative as they debated what to emphasize as they shaped the back story. I'm especially intrigued by the line, "A sickness of the mind that made him doubt his friends and drive away allies." We didn't get that with Thror, but I'm thinking we might see that with Thorin. Unsure


Just got my copy, so I'm starting to dive into the details tonight. Already spotted a couple of interesting Thorin tidbits. Smile



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“As such, you will address His Majesty as His Majesty, the Lord of Silver Fountains, the King of Carven Stone, the King Beneath the Mountain, the Lion of Erebor, the High King of the Dwarves, the True Treasure of Erebor, the Face that Launched 10,000 Sighs, or Thorin the Majestic..."


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Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 22 2014, 9:10pm

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     counter-balance? [In reply to]  

Oh - OK - here are some more pretties....but by the Valar, we need some sneak Thranduil peeks, the Internet is running dry!Unsure









Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 22 2014, 9:18pm

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     and more Thranduil-related stuff [In reply to]  

that I thought was cool....











And of course, Thranduil's best friend.Wink



Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 22 2014, 10:05pm

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     Well, let's add the new BOFA pic to this thread! [In reply to]  

Just for Lurker!



Kerewyn
Rohan


Jul 23 2014, 4:48am

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     Nice! [In reply to]  

I hadn't seen this image yet. I'm really liking the feathery / leafy design of the piece falling off the shoulder.

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Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 23 2014, 3:26pm

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     We wonders, precious, what Gandalf is saying to Thranduil [In reply to]  

Now this is interesting - does Thranduil know who Gandalf is - I would assume so....and will Thranduil treat Gandalf with hauteur, or does Thranduil respect Gandalf? Or does none of that matter, considering there is an army of orcs heading their way?

And Thranduil looks beautiful re the hair from the back. Exquisite costume with the fall of material. Plus re the WETA books those are some big arrows the elves are carrying = powerful.HeartHeartHeart


Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 23 2014, 8:28pm

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     Lee Pace has joined Twitter! [In reply to]  

And here I thought he didn't like social media. He's only tweeted once but he already has over 1,900 followers!Laugh

I hereby promise I won't drool on him.Wink

https://twitter.com/TheHobbitMovie/status/492037285940969472

https://twitter.com/leepace

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 23 2014, 8:40pm

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     Make that 2,541 followers [In reply to]  

And his single tweet was only from one hour ago!Shocked

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



vanima ephel
Rivendell


Jul 23 2014, 9:07pm

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     Make that 4,091 [In reply to]  

I wonder when it'll start to level off? And what will happen after GotG and the new Hobbit trailer are both out?

"I dissent, even at the risk of being held incorrect or not sober."


vanima ephel
Rivendell


Jul 23 2014, 9:31pm

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     Hmmmn.... It might be he has an assistant... [In reply to]  

Someone to make announcements and keep an eye out for anything drastic or interesting that's sent his way. Or maybe he's coming around to it. Maybe he'll be sending out seriously cringe-worth tweets by the end of the (week?) year. (But I hope not. :-p )

"I dissent, even at the risk of being held incorrect or not sober."


vanima ephel
Rivendell


Jul 23 2014, 9:47pm

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     Gandalf looks cross.... [In reply to]  

And Thranduil looks like he's wearing some kind of woven mithril sash or cape with that armor. It almost looks bejeweled, though I have no doubt it's supposed to be practical for warfare. It can't hurt to be literally dazzling when you want to terrorize an enemy (or at least make an impression on them).

"I dissent, even at the risk of being held incorrect or not sober."


Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 23 2014, 10:55pm

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     I had this whole, thoughtful, reply all typed out... [In reply to]  

But just before I finished saying what I had to say I got distracted and opened another browser tab, and when I tried to come back to this tab I hit the X button by mistake and lost the whole thing!Mad *facepalm* Darn my short attention span! Here's hoping I can remember most of what I said before:


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Now this is interesting - does Thranduil know who Gandalf is - I would assume so....and will Thranduil treat Gandalf with hauteur, or does Thranduil respect Gandalf? Or does none of that matter, considering there is an army of orcs heading their way?

I assume they would at least know of each other if they haven't met face to face up until now. Despite being an isolationist Thranduil is still a king after all. He has to have some idea who Middle Earth's big movers and shakers are, if nothing else, so that there aren't any political faux pas. That being said, I seriously doubt that Thranduil would treat Gandalf with hauteur, per se. Certainly not in the way he treated Thorin, whom he doesn't like that much to begin with and was his prisoner at the time of their most recent encounter. I imagine his interactions with Gandalf will be respectful on the level of how Gandalf and Elrond interact, except more formal. After all, Gandalf and Elrond, IMO treat each other as equals, but they also have a very friendly relationship. Thranduil seems like (at least at this point in the story) he doesn't have friends so much as he has allies. Therefore, I think he'll treat Gandalf with a level of respect deserving of someone who is an ally and an equal, but not necessarily be overly friendly with him at this point in time.

As far as what Gandalf is saying to Thranduil, I had theorized that maybe Gandalf had just shown up an was asking random-background-horn-blowing-elf (does he have a name? And why do I think he's going to die?Frown) where Thranduil was when Thranduil showed up, but it looks like they've already been in battle. That seems too late in the game for Gandalf to just be arriving from Dol Goldur, so maybe they're just discussing how outnumbered they are and what their next strategic move should be?


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And Thranduil looks beautiful re the hair from the back. Exquisite costume with the fall of material. Plus re the WETA books those are some big arrows the elves are carrying = powerful.HeartHeartHeart

Yep, Thranduil's back is just as fabulous as his front!Angelic Still, I'm hoping that if WB continues releasing one picture or poster everyday until time for SDCC (Trailer, trailer, trailer!) we may get a nice official picture of Thranduil's front too!

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 23 2014, 11:02pm

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     Now in high resolution [In reply to]  

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/GenericImages/2014/07/22/1406056605000-HOBBIT-BATTLE-FIVE-ARMIES-MOV-JY-1157--65995406.JPG

Oooooh, aaaaah, detail!Wink

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 23 2014, 11:47pm

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     9,090 and still going up. [In reply to]  

 He's retweeted several things and followed a bunch more people now too.(including a lot of Hobbit actors) He'll have 10,000+ followers before the end of the day, mark my words.Smile

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



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Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 24 2014, 12:52am

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     gotta love it [In reply to]  

THANK YOU!!!



Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 24 2014, 12:57am

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     And just for Lurker who is off messing about again [In reply to]  





But since I happen to know Lurker adores Thorin *snigger*



Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 24 2014, 1:29am

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Thranduil seems like (at least at this point in the story) he doesn't have friends so much as he has allies. Therefore, I think he'll treat Gandalf with a level of respect deserving of someone who is an ally and an equal, but not necessarily be overly friendly with him at this point in time.

Re being overly-friendly - no, I wouldn't think so. Logically I think there ought to be a conversation - or at least mentioned - that 1) Thranduil + elves are just going to inflame the situation and 2) there are legions of orcs on the way - which I imagine ought to be the first thing out of Gandalf's mouth. This is going to be interesting in a horrible kind of way - depending on the time frame and/or where Gandalf heads to first - into the mountain, or does he run right into a mass of elves and men? Since I can't remember the sequence of the book....but that's OK. Angelic

I think you might be right re this image - good eyes! Hey, this is the first time outside Legolas that I think I've seen elves bruised up!Shocked So this must be a sort of strategic conversation? *Grins* re our horn-blowing elf, I think that is the shadow of Haldir - and elf we don't know that well, but would recognize - yep, you might be rightFrownFrownShocked

Terrific link re the high res image. And if it's true there will be a trailer VERY soon, I can quit LOL larding up these threads with storyboarding and Thranduil images - I think I scraped the Internet dry of the best ones so farCrazy. Because I can't think the trailer wouldn't have a healthy dose of Thranduil! (And yeah, maddened or not, I'm missing my King too. I'd be insane myself after all the stressFrownWink)

PS. Don't feel bad about losing a post - I've done that. And I just accidently copied my whole image folder onto itself - what a mess, as the system helpfully made copies of EVERYTHINGFrown






Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 24 2014, 1:35am

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     Sigh re Thorin [In reply to]  


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"A sickness of the mind that made him doubt his friends and drive away allies." We didn't get that with Thror, but I'm thinking we might see that with Thorin. Unsure

That would dovetail with RA talking about how Thorin becomes more isolated, and that Bilbo really ends up being his confidant, and at the same time Thorin seems to develop some weird obsession with Bilbo - suspicion of the clever little burlgar? Who so far hasn't mentioned this magical trinket of his...and it's Bilbo's desire to "save" Thorin that sends him out of the mountain. I'd like that better than the book, where to me Bilbo seemed to be getting uppity - at least that's how it seemed to me and I wasn't charmed - that much I remember being annoyed by!Unsure There's other stuff too - but anyway, these were some great finds!HeartHeartHeart


"Looking back on Bag End, it's...it's like we're just so innocent. We were all so happy...in that place, about to start this journey" - Richard Armitage, The Hobbit Appendices.

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Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 24 2014, 1:37am

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     *Grins* [In reply to]  

Those number I think are going to be off the charts. Maybe even Lee Pace is out there, enjoying watching the number of followers tick up and up? I suppose it would be to much to hope for that he is really into Tweeting like Graham McTavish!HeartHeartHeart


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 24 2014, 6:26am

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     Thranduil w 13.7k twittees...by the MIA denizens of menegroth! [In reply to]  

Did the earth reverse its axis while I was in involuntary seclusion?? new pics, board bustling like a nest of ants... or like the Oathbreakers taking down an oliphauntCrazy... as if that's not enough surprise, The Elvenking tweeteth...yea even noting the new map of Mars!

@Avandel: The miasma covering mine precious thralldom time has yet to clear... but fair warning, I'll be back!EvilMadCrazy

*trudge reluctantly back into Drudgery most unwarranted*MadEvilPirate


Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


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stn5
The Shire

Jul 24 2014, 2:27pm

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Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 24 2014, 2:40pm

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     Holy thudding to the floor!!! [In reply to]  

I'm just gonna lay on the ground for a while. It's about time for a new Thranduil image and that picture is perfection. *Stares in wonder* (Now where is my mountain king, whom I miss, crazy or not *grins*Crazy - oh, I forgot, he's tearing up London in a fantastic performance *grins more*Heart )

Anyway, holy beautiful badass gorgeous Thranduil!HeartHeart Thanks for adding to this thread!


Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 24 2014, 2:51pm

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     Ask and you shall receive (Thranduil front pic) [In reply to]  

*does a little happy dance in chair* We've got a new pic of Thranduil from the front now!Cool

Here we go:
http://i.imgur.com/Kz0snpr.jpg

and because it was in the article too, a pic of Bard with Mirkwood archers and a tiny pic of Tauriel:
http://i.imgur.com/lIul7TE.jpg

Source

Re the Thranduil pic, I thought at first that it was just a different angle of him from when he draws his sword like in the video blog, but when I looked closer, it looks like he's just standing with his arms at his sides looking dramatically but calmly at something. Also his face is clean. In the Vlog he had what looked like maybe some orc blood splattered on his face. Here it is for comparison.

Still, the rocks behind him in both pics look very similar, although it could simply be that there are a lot of rocky areas in and around Dale. If the Lego Hobbit video game is any indication, then that could very well be the case. You actually get to free-roam around Dale in the game. It's very pretty, yet desolate and yes, there are rock clusters in and around the city. Some from the destruction and some natural. However it's also very possible that Thranduil just stands near the same cluster of rocks twice. *shrugs*

Re the Bard pic, that one actually gets me really excited because it's like, Bard! and archers! and Bard! and elven archers! and squeeeee!Laugh And it hasn't started snowing in that pic yet so, Botfa hasn't started yet. Given the fact that the attack of the orcs/wargs/goblins/bats was a sneak attack and there really wasn't much in the way of warning, I doubt that their getting ready for battle. I bet anything that they're getting ready to go to Erebor and demand that Thorin give them payment. The weapons and armor simply for the sake of show and intimidation.

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 24 2014, 3:16pm

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     call me evil *grins* [In reply to]  

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I bet anything that they're getting ready to go to Erebor and demand that Thorin give them payment. The weapons and armor simply for the sake of show and intimidation.

Oh yeah *grins*Evil? Wrong or right, I love my mountain king's fireHeart, so I'm hoping that in the face of someone trying to intimidate Thorin he picks up one of those sturdy dwarven bows (as described in the WETA books) and delivers a POINTED response.Evil

For me this is interesting fun speculation - is this image Bard just viewing these allies of his, pre-battle? Or are you correct, in that this is a show of intimidation re the dwarves, and if so, is Bard (who is neither stupid nor unkind) going to have some moment of introspection when he sees Thranduil and these deadly warriors lined up to attack a small group of dwarves (who have been in his home, and even if he's mad at Thorin still...) - that this situation with someone like Thranduil actually present (an ancient, fearsome Woodland King who has no reason to listen to men) is getting out of hand?

Or will Bard re Laketown have just lost it, and be so angry he's more than happy to be firing off arrows with the elves at Erebor? And/or LOL will Bard have a moment of self-doubt, because while he is a great archer, *cough* he's surrounded by beings with reflexes like hunting cats (after all, Bard has been living a simple humble life....)?

Or again, is this just a grim moment before the orcs arrive.....Unsure

PS Oh, I was definitely doing the happy dance over the Thranduil picture. It was SO about time - and it's GORGEOUS. Look at those armor details *drool*. Look at that finely cut bone structure - Lee Pace is just perfection, beyond that. A Frost King, indeed.HeartHeartHeartHeartHeart




Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 24 2014, 3:30pm

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     unwarranted drudgery [In reply to]  

Alas, the world is not Middle Earth where we could simply gather wood, start a fire, put on a pot of stew (veggie of course 'coz I'm not going around hunting bunnies), and sit around polishing armor and knitting new fingerless gloves.


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@Avandel: The miasma covering mine precious thralldom time has yet to clear... but fair warning, I'll be back!EvilMadCrazy



*Grins* Verily, we have been busy while thou has been off messin' aboutEvilCoolWink And Thorin misses youWink


Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 24 2014, 6:58pm

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This is going to be interesting in a horrible kind of way - depending on the time frame and/or where Gandalf heads to first - into the mountain, or does he run right into a mass of elves and men? Since I can't remember the sequence of the book....but that's OK. Angelic

In the book, we aren't told anything re how/when Gandalf got there, but IIRC the first time he reappears after leaving the dwarves at the edge of Mirkwood, he's in the camp of elves and men. *flips through Hobbit book that I'm too lazy to put away* Ah, here it is! Chapter XVI: A Thief in the Night. Bilbo has just given the Arkenstone to Bard and Thranduil and insists that he has to back to the mountain despite the fact he might get in trouble with the dwarves. Bilbo is provided an elven escort part of the way back(maybe this will be Leggy and/or Tauriel in the movie?) and:

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As they passed through the camp and old man, wrapped in a dark cloak, rose from a tent door where he was sitting and came towards them. "Well done! Mr. Baggins!" he said, clapping Bilbo on the back [..] It was Gandalf. [..] but there was no time for all the questions that [Bilbo] immediately wished to ask. "All in good time!" said Gandalf. "Things are drawing towards the end now, unless I am mistaken [..] There is news brewing that even the ravens have not heard. Good night!"

And Bilbo sneaks back into the mountain, etc, etc. It shall be interesting indeed to see how they handle this in the movie with all the background stuff added in!

Oh, I also think I know what the name of horn-blowing-elf is. I checked the cast listing on IMDB and it looks like he's played by this guy, Simon London and the character's name is Feren. Good thing he has a name because I was very close to just dubbing our potentially expendable friend as R.S.E. (Red-Shirt Elf)Tongue *cough* Speaking of red shirts, if you zoom in on the high resolution pic of Thrandy and Gandalf, the fabric sleeves that are visible under Feren's armor actually are a slightly reddish-maroon color!Shocked On the upside, that may be the color of all the armored elves sleeves. On the downside, all of the armored elves may die. Things are not looking good for Feren.Crazy Poor, poor Feren.

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With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
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Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 24 2014, 7:58pm

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I fear the chapter you just quoted stirred up the old resentments I had from when I had read the Hobbit for the first time as a kid, and those old angers are still there (this being a child's view of the world, but that tang of it remains). For whatever reason even then I took to the dwarves and I'm still mad at the book Gandalf, and later I read some Appendices where I recall Gandalf and Bilbo talking, and they just seemed so cavalier about Thorin. Well, that's another thread and conversation I already had on the board a while back, but every now and again I get a twinge - like even in the movies when Radagast is depicted as so cavalierly IMO letting the chips fall where they may re the dwarves.MadFrown

And this chapter quote - oh, that's niceMad. IMO Gandalf should be heading straight to the mountain after starting this.....OK I'll stop now. Ahem.Blush (Except I do hope Thorin + dwarves are treated with the respect they deserve in the film).

But I DO thank you for taking the time to post those quotes! And of course I think we all hope Bilbo is quite a bit busier during the battle than he was in the book, as I don't think the book version makes for very good cinema. Tho I suppose they could fill the time with watching our elves and dwarves take on the orcs - e.g. having a lot of screen time.Wink


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On the downside, all of the armored elves may die. Things are not looking good for Feren.Crazy Poor, poor Feren.


*Snigger* I don't know why but your feeling that all these elves are heading to that great starlit "alternate plane of being" is cracking me upLaugh. I think it's reminding me of some of the Peckish Owl's stuff. Well, at least we know Thranduil and Legolas will make it, in that exquisite armour of theirs. I've been really drooling over the Mirkwood elves, the layers of fabrics, the armor construction - I was wondering how they came up with those colors and fabrics and from the books turns out it's MULTIPLE layers and dye washes and fabulous fabric techniques - no wonder I have trouble even naming the colors, really - not green, but not grey, but not black re the tunics they wear. It's like trying to describe art glass.HeartHeartHeart

PS. Just reading some of the Nordic history that influenced Tolkien got me to wondering and wandering in my head - e.g. at least some dwarvish concept of an afterlife seems to involve a kind of sleep, when the world ends a cycle they will awake and it is their task to help rebuild the world at that time? And that Thorin's fate with Thranduil returning Orcrist reminds me the images of Arthur, who supposedly will awake at the time he is needed again?

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http://www.legendofkingarthur.co.uk/king-arthur-death.htm

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...So two traditions have emerged. Either King Arthur is still alive in Avalon, awaiting his moment to return, or he was killed in battle. The "still alive" version is the earlier version, while the "killed in battle" version arose later. By the 12th-century most of the written accounts relate to the of the Battle of Camlan, starting with Geoffrey of Monmouth’s Historia Regum Britanniae. The earliest references to Avalon and King Arthur’s death are found in Geoffrey of Monmouth’s chronicles. In Historia Regum Britanniae it is asserted that King Arthur "was mortally wounded" at Camlan but was then "carried off to the Isle of Avalon, so that his wounds might be attended to." In this ambiguous statement we can see Geoffrey is reconciling the concept of Arthur’s death in which he dies (King Arthur is mortally wounded) with that concept in which Arthur still lives (his wounds would be healed in Avalon).
The third, rather odd tradition, is that King Arthur turned into a raven, or perhaps Cornish Chough. The raven, this is a bird strongly associated with myth and legend. In Wales and the West Country, it was held to be a royal bird.


On the other hand, Tolkien *cough* seemed quite fond of elves, not so much dwarves, so I am not sure how much he would associate a dwarf king with this legendary king who worked so hard for peace and equality. Still, I can't get the image out of my head, probably due to some artwork I have seen.

And do elves as we know them die at all, or do they just pass to a different plane? ANYWAY, just me having some miscellaneous thoughts, all of it triggered by that magnificent Thranduil image!HeartHeartHeartHeartHeart




elf-lady
Rivendell

Jul 24 2014, 8:33pm

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Gracious, I've been away from the boards forever due to heavy work load. My BFF then sends me an email notifying me of a new Thranduil pic and I *click*...then start flailing and hyperventilating! Egads but does Thranduil not look focused there? His body is "quiet" but I imagine he could explode into action at any moement! (Japanese fangirl type pun there)


Nimloth
Lorien


Jul 24 2014, 8:58pm

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There's a break in the drought! At last a new pic and what a beautiful pic it is! I can't wait to see the teaser trailer. Cool


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 25 2014, 12:59am

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according to josh horowitz's tweet (aka the guy with the long LP podcast fr TA 5(?).


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Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul


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Valinor


Jul 25 2014, 2:20pm

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     So the CHOW for the DOS chapter "The Elvenking" is up [In reply to]  

So here we are (ref discussion on TA VI here and here) - how time both flies and crawls at the same time.

The chapter on the Elvenking is up: DOS Chapter of The Week: "The Elvenking"

Hope to see you there, slathering your appreciation all over it, fellow Thranduil's Thralls Smile



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Valinor


Jul 25 2014, 3:33pm

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Good one elf-lady Smile I so know how you feel. I was all PHWOAR! And sure it has to happen right when I'm tied up with drudgery. UnsureCrazyMad


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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 27 2014, 3:45am

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So Thralls, there seems to be a bunch of stuff popping up re Thranduil and LP at comic con that I wager warrant a sub-thread by itself so here goes:

Just a nice LP interview art SDCC, with HCF, GotG and TH thrown in. Around the 5min mark is the comment on the ADR. Love the last bit of the interviewLaugh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkjNvvRZ69Q

From the list compiled by AncalagonTheBlack in another thread LP banters with Cate Blanchett (from 1.01 onwards): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7KnFyrZS4U

From the panel thread by Mr Arkenstone: In the uber major poster covering the wall of Hall H, Thranduil on his elk!
(minor gripe, with apologies to Eruvandi and other Tauriel supporters: Why is Tauriel getting not only a frontal but also a bigger image than Thranduil again? I hope this does not mean she is again figuring more in the movie than the Elvenking, like in DOSFrownPirateMadUnimpressedUnsure)

And this... just I hope it mean EEEs of the TH with LOTs more Elves and Thranduil somedayAngelic ... and add them gag reels on those please!!Evil






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Avandel
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Jul 28 2014, 12:20am

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From the panel thread by Mr Arkenstone: In the uber major poster covering the wall of Hall H, Thranduil on his elk!
(minor gripe, with apologies to Eruvandi and other Tauriel supporters: Why is Tauriel getting not only a frontal but also a bigger image than Thranduil again? I hope this does not mean she is again figuring more in the movie than the Elvenking, like in DOSFrownPirateMadUnimpressedUnsure)


This for me would be a MAJOR fail, right up there with what I think of as an over-presence of Arwen in LOTR. It's not hard to see 'round the net that folks wanted more Thranduil (and Beorn, for that matter). If that happens I will never understand why PJ or any filmmaker believes if you push something hard enough, it will be loved. Not that a flimmaker can just bow to the public any old way, or nothing would ever get done, but Thranduil is a KING. Folks are interested in his arc, especially after the run-in with the dwarves.

And let's face it, Thranduil is compelling. Just look at that new pictureTongueTongueTongueTongueTongueHeartHeartHeartHeartHeart


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 28 2014, 12:40am

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This for me would be a MAJOR fail, right up there with what I think of as an over-presence of Arwen in LOTR. It's not hard to see 'round the net that folks wanted more Thranduil (and Beorn, for that matter). If that happens I will never understand why PJ or any filmmaker believes if you push something hard enough, it will be loved. Not that a flimmaker can just bow to the public any old way, or nothing would ever get done, but Thranduil is a KING. Folks are interested in his arc, especially after the run-in with the dwarves.

And let's face it, Thranduil is compelling. Just look at that new pictureTongueTongueTongueTongueTongueHeartHeartHeartHeartHeart

That pic*THUDDERLY THUD THUD* ThranduilHeart is KING, ELVENKING! Let no one forget! Why oh why does he continue to be given the hot-girl treatment (as Eruvandi pointed out) in the posters TonguePirateFrownMadCrazy C'mon give us a Elvenking in forward charge already!Angelic


Re Tauriel... SIGH... we've talked about this in TA V starting with Kerewyn's post here, but just want to quote elf-lady who put it way more succinctly than I could (me just going: I don't hate her as a character but she's the wrong insert, or maybe the magnitude of her insertedness is grating on my nerves and sense of aestheticsTongue):


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I don't mind Tauriel as a character. Indeed, I think it's very cool to have such a strong, capable female elf and a warrior to boot. But in general I dislike heavy handed introductions accompanied by music that so obviously declares "LOOK! This is the new HEROINE!" when she and Legolas arrive to kill the spiders and coincidentally save the dwarves. Don't get me wrong, the new Tauriel theme is gorgeous. It's just that for me, the introduction wasn't very subtle and she feels a bit shoe horned into the story. Again, this is just my opinion. I don't hate her and I think Evangeline Lilly did a great job with her. I just don't like Tauriel's relative importance over others.

I understand that Tauriel was (among other things) introduced to open Legolas' eyes as to the plight of other peoples with a emotional arc that links his Hobbit-era self to the version we see in when he arrives in Rivendell who is disdainful of dwarves. But doing it that way diminishes Legolas I think. Could Legolas not have opened his own eyes after seeing first hand the death and destruction in Laketown after Smaug attacks? Or what about having more of a father and son disagreement/conflict over whether or not elves should become more involved? Think of the character development! We could have had such a wonderful series of interactions between them leading up to Legolas seeing Thranduil overcome his own disregard for others and honoring the fallen Thorin by placing Orcrist on Thorin's tomb.

Other random thoughts (for whatever they're worth):
  • I don't like romances in genre films
  • If a genre film is based on a story (or appendices) that contains a canon romance (like Aragorn and Arwen), fine but for Eru's sake, don't introduce one where none exists *cough*
  • I love character development...but not with a non-canon character at the expense of other characters, especially the main characters *I miss Bilbo*





supreme OT but found this and was reminded of that convo we had about King vs King



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This, I think is excellent. And, the "patient Thranduil" will get what he wants - those white gems. Interestingly too, I wonder - if Thorin HAD gone for it, I'd have to assume Thranduil would have forced the dwarves to take some elves along, to make sure if those gems. Fun to speculate - assuming Gandalf never showed - would the elves have raised their chances of dealing with Smaug? Tho I also believe the dwarves would have tried to ditch any elves at the first opportunity, probably not successfully.
Brilliant! Of course Thranduil wouldn't stoop to grunt work, even for the Gems, so he would probably send a few trusted elites from his personal guard or the Mirkwood SEAL team. Legolas, if he is certified/inducted into the How-To-Slay-A-Dragon-And-Survive prep course by his Daddy, might be tasked to run Operation White Gems, and deflect the Dwarves' counter-intelligence manoeuvres he would anticipate to happen along the way. Delcious Cloak and Dagger, ME style. But I wager the Dwarves might abandon any attempt at subterfuge pretty quick! In any case, Thranduil would be preparing his treasure vault for the White Gems, the appointed Elven operations leader would be stressing out over the successful conclusion of the operation, the Dwarves would be trying to morse-code each other and having a beard-pulling time trying to keep Bilbo up-to-speed, and Thorin would be extra-difficult to live with while the Elves are with them.



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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 28 2014, 1:14am

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With Benedict Cumberbatch (love his accent) on IGN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTVDuni4xM8

More Galadriel and Thranduil (much more Gladdy than Thranddy really, though does she sound more RP than Aussie?) on fandango: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_k5pJV2N_M
(and just once more: BLOOPER REEL!)


From MTV: Sorry, Other Famous People: Lee Pace And Andy Serkis Are The Coolest Guys At Comic-Con Heart
(in the spirit of giving credit where credit's due, somewhere I read a little bitty that said LP said it was all Andy Serkis' idea. Yay Gollum!)


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Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 28 2014, 11:44am

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     AYE Lurker!!! Your post hits the nails it IMO [In reply to]  

PS. Lurker - will PM you later, haven't been able to get to my messages yet to give proper responsesFrown. Of course this will be if the 'net survives today after the teaser goes liveWink

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or maybe the magnitude of her insertedness is grating on my nerves and sense of aestheticsTongue):


I completely agree with elf-lady's post. Exactly. And just when I had more or less been calm re Tauriel - and in any case I assumed that PJ & co. would take stock after DOS - what works, what didn't.
Again, not because any filmmaker should jump because of public demands, but based on what I think happened with the treatment of Thorin - e.g. these movies have been an organic process, w. constant changes as PJ & co. got to know the characters. So they begin writing FOR the characters, as portrayed by a given actor, and I also think that viewing the actors through a camera lens as filming went along plays into that.

Would PJ have been sticking a camera in Thorin's face, or would he have so many epic lines, if the character was coming across "serviceable"? I think not. Would he have a camera up in Thranduil's face if the whole effect wasn't completely, perfectly, stunning? I think not. What are some of the most talked-about scenes in DOS (in a good way)? The barrel scene. Smaug. And T & T. How many posts have we seen here and elsewhere, that wish that scene had been a bit longer?HeartHeartHeart

And *cough* who actually is a character from the book? That's been discussed to death, but "the degree of insertedness". Exactly. At a time when the Elven King - as LEADER of an ARMY (who led his people from a great battle after his own father died at Mordor) - should be coming to the fore as this tale comes to a climax IMO.

I haven't had a good chance to view the artwork, except for the blurry pictures, but the shame of it is - and with respect to the feelings and fans of Legolas and Tauriel - please stop shoving these two at us, PJ!Unsure If a story is going to have flow - like when Tauriel wanders into the cell area and strikes up a conversation with Kili - it has to be a natural thing, like that.

And it doesn't do OB or EL any favors either, forcibly stretching their parts, because it FEELS forced, and then you have critics making remarks like "the woefully underused so & so."

Well, maybe it's too early too fret, and it's impossible to believe that some key lines and actions done by Thranduil would not appear. And from the sound of it - SQUEEEHeart - Thranduil is in the trailer. Also - PJ & co. are still tinkering - trailer or no, artwork or no, there never seems to be ANY guarantee re the final film. Look at the silliness of the DOS banner that had Fili and Kili in obviously BOFA clothes - and the WB poster had Thorin in BOFA clothes - and the French poster had Thorin in BOFA clothes AND holding Orcrist!Unsure Or how about last year re the first teaser w. Azog hopping up - and then he is completely replaced by Bolg re that scene.

IMO folks should just be chatting up Thranduil, coz you're not going to tell me WB at least doesn't listen to the buzz online = $$$. Drop the 'zine a line saying how much we like the Thranduil image, etc. Even Thorin's FB posted the Thranduil image!HeartHeartHeart And Lee Pace's recent successes aren't going to hurt either - last night's "Halt and Catch Fire" was another great episode, and GOTG is getting lots of positive comments.


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 28 2014, 12:57pm

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Gladdy (or Gally?) and Thranddy for
- sky news, offering more tidbits about the Battle and the Hall H line midnight surprise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkLFPxZhveU
- Comingsoon.com, more tidbits all round, though CB seems more loose with the crumbs than LP : http://www.comingsoon.net/...ienews.php?id=121122

In case you wondered about the interview for this pic... well, LP doesn't say anything, but there's some nice shots of him just being there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8otWN8eoMJk

Just SQUEEEEEEEEHeartHeartHeart re "In yesterday's press conference, we asked Peter Jackson about epic fighting in the last #Hobbit movie. He mentioned that Lee Pace as Thranduil, as father to Legolas, was even more lethal. One big reason to look forward to that movie in December." from the TORn FB

Here's some GIFs of the teaser's teaser. Said teaser will be coming out at 12 PST today... which is 3bladdy AM where I am, but that's fine. I just wake up and hope the frenzy's down to a level where I can watch it already.

And here's a pic of LP at the con, someone did a great edit Heart



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Jul 28 2014, 1:23pm

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Agree with all you said, especially these bits:

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And *cough* who actually is a character from the book? That's been discussed to death, but "the degree of insertedness". Exactly. At a time when the Elven King - as LEADER of an ARMY (who led his people from a great battle after his own father died at Mordor) - should be coming to the fore as this tale comes to a climax IMO.

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And it doesn't do OB or EL any favors either, forcibly stretching their parts, because it FEELS forced, and then you have critics making remarks like "the woefully underused so & so."



I'm just looking at those panels, they seem very nice, but yeah... gotta hope given that it's really a work-in-progress still. Hey, it seems like the DOS EE's got new stuff! Here's to the white stage scene and the Dwarves being in Thranduil's presence together!



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IMO folks should just be chatting up Thranduil, coz you're not going to tell me WB at least doesn't listen to the buzz online = $$$. Drop the 'zine a line saying how much we like the Thranduil image, etc. Even Thorin's FB posted the Thranduil image!HeartHeartHeart And Lee Pace's recent successes aren't going to hurt either - last night's "Halt and Catch Fire" was another great episode, and GOTG is getting lots of positive comments.

Not sure how much is heard, seen or taken in account, or if it even registers on the radar of the powers that be, eg a running TA thread here. I did take a peek into twitter, and on the TORN and Hobbit accounts, that pic seemed well received, as did the TORN and Hobbit FBs. Too there's LP's own twitter, which seemed to growing its following quite heathily despite being barely days old.

Curious: was LP's visibility at SDCC anything like what the Dwarves got in 2012?


PS - Re PM: cool, will be watching out for it. I might have stuff to run by you re TW5 ... or not. We'll see.




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Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Kerewyn
Rohan


Jul 28 2014, 1:44pm

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     Dashing in waving handcuff keys.... [In reply to]  

...finally released from the shackles of work, and starting to catch up Wink


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Well, maybe it's too early too fret, and it's impossible to believe that some key lines and actions done by Thranduil would not appear. And from the sound of it - SQUEEEHeart - Thranduil is in the trailer. Also - PJ & co. are still tinkering - trailer or no, artwork or no, there never seems to be ANY guarantee re the final film....

IMO folks should just be chatting up Thranduil, coz you're not going to tell me WB at least doesn't listen to the buzz online = $$$. Drop the 'zine a line saying how much we like the Thranduil image, etc. Even Thorin's FB posted the Thranduil image!HeartHeartHeart And Lee Pace's recent successes aren't going to hurt either - last night's "Halt and Catch Fire" was another great episode, and GOTG is getting lots of positive comments.


Agree, agree, agree. I am counting on the fact that PJ keeps editing to the very last minute. (Hasn't he been known to still be working on the final cut up mere hours before it's required in the premiere cinema?) Seriously, those fans in Hall H should have screamed the roof off, when Colbert first says Lee's name - and really let PJ take note first hand.

Different film, different franchise, but look what happened last year when they dropped Tom Hiddleston onto Hall H. The producing team had an epiphany, and with mere months to release, more Loki scenes were quickly included in 'Thor: the Dark World' as the extent of his fan base struck home. So I keep thinking, if that can happen, maybe this can happen. I hope PJ is as flexible and insightful.

Regretfully, LP barely got to make his mark on that panel. But a little of him goes a long way, much like the TE cut of DoS ...Heart

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 28 2014, 1:52pm

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     *yay* Kerewyn freedom! [In reply to]  

Glad to have you back propping up the appreciation! I might be flitting in and out for the next workdays as you know, and counting down my time to my own true freedom

Though teaser tomorrow!Heart For us anyway. I hope I can see it before having to leave for work.

Re LP at the panel. I thought it was a good rousing cheer when Colbert asked him about being in NZ. And really, that girl who specified him along with BC and AS to answer her question was great! BC seem to be plonked front and centre, and we all know AS's on a pedestal. It's a stretch but hopefully LP being named along with them gets someone taking the right note.


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Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
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Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 28 2014, 2:03pm

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So how many times you wager he'll flash by?

I think 2.


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Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


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elf-lady
Rivendell

Jul 28 2014, 7:27pm

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     You're right Lurker! [In reply to]  

Thranduil is magnificent in the trailer.




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Kerewyn
Rohan


Jul 28 2014, 10:32pm

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     Wow, the gif creators.. [In reply to]  

...turned that one out faster than a copy of a royal wedding dress!

Checking out that fighting style and beautiful armour. HeartHeartSmile

I have just watched it four times over breakfast, and don't know how I'm going to be able to concentrate this busy work day. (though I do look forward to watching it again on large work monitor) On my first viewing, I gasped out loud at that shot of all the Elf arrows poised ready for Thranduil's command.

LOVE the re-use and LOTR tie-in of Billy Boyd's gorgeous vocals.

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elf-lady
Rivendell

Jul 29 2014, 1:15am

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     Billy Boyd's "The Edge of Night" [In reply to]  

When Pippin's song started I got so teary eyed. It was perfect for the trailer, so beautiful and haunting at the same time.


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Valinor


Jul 29 2014, 2:34am

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Thanks so much, elf-lady! These will tide me over til I can get home and replay the teaser on youtube on a bigger screen... disappointed no line from Thranduil (except that killer "ah") but it makes just watching the GIFs that much more bearable.Sly


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Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Nimloth
Lorien


Jul 29 2014, 3:46am

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Those gifs are mesmerizing.

I loved Billy Boyd's song, so haunting. I am getting really excited about this last film, with hopefully lots more Thranduil. Blush


Kerewyn
Rohan


Jul 29 2014, 12:59pm

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     All this Billy Boyd appreciation... [In reply to]  

...means relevance, finally, for posting a photo of Billy at Melbourne's Supanova con last year. Finally got to see one of my fave LOTR actors after all this time. Heart Love this particular shot. Wink



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Valinor


Jul 29 2014, 1:43pm

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     Bigger versions... as in closer scrutiny, and harking back to your post about twin-sword fighting style [In reply to]  

GIFS!
Thranduil walking through the carnage
Thranduil beautifully lethal like lightning

And not only do we see flashes of his beautiful swords, that partial-sheath is there too in the walking scene!Heart

Oh, anyone noted the interesting reverse handgrip Thranduil does on his left-hand sword when we got the quick flash of his left-hand when he was cutting orcs down? It's not a fluke since it's the same grip in the earlier scene. I guess more learned folks would say it's not a practical or feasible grip for combat, but I think for a good all-round defense-offense in a one-against-horde situation that grip complements the conventional grip on his right-hand sword. Plus this is an ELF with both the reputation and the cred of a swordsman! I think employing the different grips for his twin-sword fighting style make perfect sense. Of course it helps that he works it like the best pros! HeartHeartHeart

One other detail: Those trailing bits from his armour we see in that first backview doesn't seem to serve any function except flap around don't they? But I'm wondering if the slightly dragonny motif on the shape and the fabric might be a sort of resonance re his desire for treasure and just his deadly reputation and isolation aka let sleeping dragons lie?



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Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 29 2014, 1:45pm

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     Belated thanks! // [In reply to]  

 


Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment. But call me Lurker.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 29 2014, 5:23pm

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     Made some trailer screencaps with special consideration for Thrandy [In reply to]  

I made a separate thread on the main Hobbit board too, but I thought I would bring it here as well. I made a full set of screencaps from the teaser trailer this morning and put them together in an album on Photobucket. This is relevant to Thranduil because I made sure to pay extra attention to getting good shots of the short scenes he was in, and in the part where we see him fighting I think I caught him in every single fighting pose that was shown!Cool

I also took special care, with Avandel in mind, to make sure that you could see Thorin clearly in all of the scenes that he was inSmile as well as getting some good shots of Leggy and Tauriel for myself.Heart

There's three pages of photo album here so just keep clicking!


http://s1287.photobucket.com/...rary/BotFA%20trailer





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Nimloth
Lorien


Jul 29 2014, 8:33pm

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VeArkenstone
Lorien

Jul 29 2014, 9:20pm

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     Lurker, I was in such a rush when I went through TATVII, I may have [In reply to]  

misunderstood what the Elfs were to kill, and now I can't find it. I'm sure that there are no Elves in BO5A who will be killing a white stag, orcs, that's more plausible. And I have never been able to Link on this library computer. I spent an hour one day trying to link the Astrological Picture of the Day into my signature line, it just did not work out.

Still going over UT with a fine-tooth comb. Have not found any new info yet on Oropher or Thranduil. A heck of a lot of ancient Dwarf history though in the chapter Celeborn and Galadrial, interesting and surprising. I am going to read the whole book again if I have to, and post Oropher and Thranduil historical stuff as I find it.

The trailer is so neat! Any idea where he is? He seems to be all alone as he battles the orcs. It is intriging, why is he not with Legolas, Tauriel and his army? Oh, so many questions ........ only 4 1/2 months to go, geez!

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Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 29 2014, 11:40pm

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Curious: was LP's visibility at SDCC anything like what the Dwarves got in 2012?


I think it was - just impressions - but possibly more so re GOG and Halt and Catch Fire. I think it's a different dynamic when you have a group of guys representing cute little fuzzballs, vs.
a single actor and there's this huge buzz about GOG as that is something new and fresh.

Another thing - someone even titled a post re MF, IM, and RA being noticeably absent w. PJ - of course we all know why, and that's fine - plus, there was only one dwarf there at all!
So altogether it was already a full panel, and yet I think there was something missing with these key characters being gone, and then these folks from LOTR being there. Just felt
a little "off" to me, not like a cohesive group.

And honestly, it's nothing personal against Elijah Wood, but his appearances re the Hobbit I think are too much, starting back with
AUJ. He seems to show up a lot, and it's not nice but I keep wondering don't you have other work, or something? And no, while his skin is amazing, he's filled out since the Hobbit.
He does NOT look like the Frodo I knew, he's grown up. I liked the cameo but think it should have ended there....Unimpressed

Happily tho LP was out and about at SDCC and new interviews - because I remember when we were BEGGING for some LP articles! And since LP mentioned "Halt and Catch Fire"
but he doesn't know if there will be season 2 - all I can say is there had better be! The last two shows have been amazing, and LP is amazing in this show!HeartHeartHeart


Avandel
Half-elven

Jul 30 2014, 12:04am

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Gorgeous - you were so good to meHeart. That's the best of the Thorin crown shots and the dwarf armour shots I've seen - and grabbed of course. Cool
Thank you for the care you took, put my paltry efforts to shame!HeartHeartHeart Lovely work HeartHeartHeart


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as well as getting some good shots of Leggy and Tauriel for myself.Heart


Well, of course. And I'm loving the way Tauriel and Legolas looked together in that shot high in the cliffs, like friends discussing things in a quiet
moment, that came across even in a brief trailer shot. Like people who really know each other - very natural. Smile




Kerewyn
Rohan


Jul 30 2014, 1:45pm

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     The thing that haunts me... [In reply to]  

..is how the location Thranduil is cautiously walking through, looking at the carnage, is the same location as the recent new screen shot with his back to us and Gandalf and his group of elves. You can tell by the stone deer statue in the background of both. And to look at these side by side, it gives me the tragic impression that that same group of elves could now be the ones lying dead and bleeding.

And I wonder here, is her seeking Legolas? Is he remembering his father? Is he deeply regretting the losses to his kin, and that he ever brought them out of the forest, and for what gain, none? It must be such a deep and painful thing to see your fellow immortals die – or are they also to be envied? We never got to see Haldir deal with his battle loss, because he was lost himself.


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Oh, anyone noted the interesting reverse handgrip Thranduil does on his left-hand sword when we got the quick flash of his left-hand when he was cutting orcs down? It's not a fluke since it's the same grip in the earlier scene. I guess more learned folks would say it's not a practical or feasible grip for combat, but I think for a good all-round defense-offense in a one-against-horde situation that grip complements the conventional grip on his right-hand sword. Plus this is an ELF with both the reputation and the cred of a swordsman! I think employing the different grips for his twin-sword fighting style make perfect sense. Of course it helps that he works it like the best pros!


Oh wow, you are right. Thanks to Eruvandi’s beautifully captured screen shots, (Thank YOU Eruvandi!) on her third page, I can see the shot with that reverse grip. That’s a hold that I imagine would be better suited to a stabbing downward / chopping motion – like you might hold a dagger for a fatal stab. He must be – and of course he is – marvelously ambidextrous and with such strong flexible wrists to wield it that way in full fight.
My comparison I did in my earlier post with Jadis – she is holding both the swords the same way, and performing almost mirror-image movements, or swipes that reflect each other. Imagine having the supreme fighting ability to wield two swords in different ways, as needed. Game changer indeed. Heart You know, I have never been terribly interested in someone’s fighting prowess until I saw the beheading of the orc Narzug. Another moment of game-change – for me.

By the way, incredible work, Lurker, on prepping your Chapter of the Week. Swept down the pages by the trailer response, I’m reposting the link here: http://newboards.theonering.net/...?post=763291;#763291

I responded in late night ‘spontaneous chain of thought’ mode, then really enjoyed reading other responses too, and going ‘oh, I didn’t think of that!

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 30 2014, 2:24pm

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Well, I like his solo/small group ventures better anyway, not that I don't have love for the cast and crew. Interviewers tend to forget him when there's an ensemble. Doesn't help that he seems to like to blend in, make himself small and just smile quietly.



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Just felt
a little "off" to me, not like a cohesive group.

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And honestly, it's nothing personal against Elijah Wood, but his appearances re the Hobbit I think are too much, starting back with
AUJ. He seems to show up a lot, and it's not nice but I keep wondering don't you have other work, or something? And no, while his skin is amazing, he's filled out since the Hobbit.
He does NOT look like the Frodo I knew, he's grown up. I liked the cameo but think it should have ended there....Unimpressed

Agreed! I was surprised only Dwalin was present. Like I said elsewhere, he should have put on his knuckle-dusters, and mark Dwarven attendance and take names Evil



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Happily tho LP was out and about at SDCC and new interviews - because I remember when we were BEGGING for some LP articles! And since LP mentioned "Halt and Catch Fire"
but he doesn't know if there will be season 2 - all I can say is there had better be! The last two shows have been amazing, and LP is amazing in this show!HeartHeartHeart

Yeah! And I hope so re HCF2. Eppie8 was GREAT! and 9 was truly interesting. Joe's so rockstar when he's in his element. Wonder what's coming in the finaleHeart


ETA: by the Valar! Me Gondor! When did that happen? More - You Tol Eressea! Wow! *bows*


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Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 30 2014, 2:30pm

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     Check out Avandel's thread about Thranduil in the teaser and imagery [In reply to]  

Thranduil in BOFA, imagery he evokes, and maybe something for the readers

PS: Avandel, I'll get to it this weekend if there's any surviving grey matter in the noggin.


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Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 30 2014, 2:31pm

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     Thanks, Eruvandi! [In reply to]  

I just saw that. Smile


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Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
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Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 30 2014, 2:59pm

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     Yeah, the poignancy in that scene [In reply to]  

I hope we get a closer look at his beautiful face as he walks.Heart

I wager he's taken back to the days of the Last Alliance, maybe even the field where Oropher fell Unsure And this would be after he has cleaned his way through the orcs in the later scene. He looks so beautiful and so powerful, but so alone in this scene. Just chills watching it.



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My comparison I did in my earlier post with Jadis – she is holding both the swords the same way, and performing almost mirror-image movements, or swipes that reflect each other. Imagine having the supreme fighting ability to wield two swords in different ways, as needed. Game changer indeed. Heart You know, I have never been terribly interested in someone’s fighting prowess until I saw the beheading of the orc Narzug. Another moment of game-change – for me.

The mirror movement thingy is the typical twin-sword fighting style I believe. Again, I'm no expert but I reckon I've watched enough kungfu stuff growing up to earn some armchair critic cred. It dawned on me that twin-sword fighting is quite a limiting style (mirror moves leave a lot of potential openings for attackers too and is just limiting in the wielder's reach) and probably more stylised and suited for one-to-one action or in a tournament kind of thing. Plus, that mirror-style can look a bit too oriental (and for some strange reason it tends to be heroines who do twin-swords, twin-something else is more common for the guys), which would have been odd on HIS MAGNIFICENCE. So I am chuffed to see him in action and looking like nothing from kungfu movies or conventional fight stylesHeart Heart That reverse grip is the sword-grip equivalent of the sideway pistol hold that gets flaked for being unrealistic and for show only. It does require a lot more power and control to wield this grip well (I got a bit of a primer on it when I visited a forum discussing the villians, incidentally silver-haired bishies, in the animation movie Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, a long way back...) and if it was the grip on a single sword, or the main one in a twin-sword style, I'd say meh (logically only and just momentarily of course because there is no meh where our ELF is concerned) but as the secondary sword, I do believe it works, and effectively and realistically complements the conventional main-sword grip. Plus it removes the element of anticipatory offence by his attackers if they can't take advantage of the repetitive conventional style. And as you say, the flexibility of the different gripes is ability supremo, not to mention cool and absolute badass. No one can touch himHeart

LaughWelcome to my little nerdy armchair corner re fight style/prowessHeartHeartHeart

Another geeky thrall observation: that partial sheath is there on his left hip! Just like in the orc interrogation scene, but on his right there's none so where does the main sword's twin go when not in action? Could that sheath be a double-sword holder for combat situations? Oh I'm dying to know!



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By the way, incredible work, Lurker, on prepping your Chapter of the Week. Swept down the pages by the trailer response, I’m reposting the link here: http://newboards.theonering.net/...?post=763291;#763291

I responded in late night ‘spontaneous chain of thought’ mode, then really enjoyed reading other responses too, and going ‘oh, I didn’t think of that!

Blush Thanks! And thanks for responding - loved your answers. It's been fun though time-consuming in the prep. Sure hope we see more responses.




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BlackFox
Half-elven


Jul 30 2014, 4:08pm

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     Attention Thralls! A CHOWvertisement! [In reply to]  

Be on the lookout for another CHOW featuring your favourite Elvenking: King and Captain, coming this weekend! Smile


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Kerewyn
Rohan


Jul 31 2014, 6:51am

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Welcome to my little nerdy armchair corner re fight style/prowessHeartHeartHeart

Another geeky thrall observation: that partial sheath is there on his left hip! Just like in the orc interrogation scene, but on his right there's none so where does the main sword's twin go when not in action? Could that sheath be a double-sword holder for combat situations? Oh I'm dying to know!



Hey, that never occurred to me! Maybe he never sheaths that sword but always has it ready. No that can't be right - I am thinking it must be a double sheath (which is maybe why it's not enclosed) Or maybe there is a right hip sheath we haven't been able to see yet.


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(mirror moves leave a lot of potential openings for attackers too



Hmm, yes, quite stylised, thinking of the very few female fighters I have seen. And yeah, it's more 'pose-y' than gritty and real - the kind of fight where attackers are waiting in a line or circle for their 'turn'.

The conventional sword-fighter would usually be holding a shield in left hand. Thranduil raises the bar on that - his defence arm is also an attacking arm. It's either one opponent has to look out for two attacking swords (deadly!) or two opponents have to look out for this one attacker (even more deadly) - and each sword with a 'mind of its own'. *deeply impressed*



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Kerewyn
Rohan


Jul 31 2014, 6:52am

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 31 2014, 11:07am

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From Eruvandi's collection: this pic we get quite a clear view of his hips. On the left, sheath! On the right, nothing. Am loving the details: that buckle and belty thing attached to the sheath looks cool. Wonder how it attaches to his tunic. Which continues the motif of his gold robe and that inner robe under the red coat in the orc interrogation. Thranduil's strutting consistency in his style Heart



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The conventional sword-fighter would usually be holding a shield in left hand. Thranduil raises the bar on that - his defence arm is also an attacking arm. It's either one opponent has to look out for two attacking swords (deadly!) or two opponents have to look out for this one attacker (even more deadly) - and each sword with a 'mind of its own'. *deeply impressed*

Great point about the defence arm! Cool idea.Heart You have the makings of a armchair fignting prowess critic Smile

So what do you think about the motif on his cape?



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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Jul 31 2014, 11:09am

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     *marks calendar* Thanks, Blackfox! [In reply to]  

Looking forward to it.


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Laineth
Lorien

Jul 31 2014, 9:23pm

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Kim just posted the link for the screen caps of the iPod version of the new Empire article: here

This is what it says about Thrandy:


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On the screen, the dwarves huddle beneath the recently reinforced battlements of Erebor, and (in the reverse) Thranduil and Bard ride to within hollering distance. The footage is relatively raw, with large portions of greenscreen. Lee Pace's horse has not yet been converted into Thranduil's elk.

"We've come to tell you payment of your debt has been offered… and accepted." oozes Pace onscreen.

"Thranduil's going to be very interested in Thorin's reaction," Jackson explains, effectively giving Empire a sneak preview of the director's commentary as Olsen runs through the takes. "He's trying to avoid war, so it is quite a big moment… Oh, that's good, I like that one."

Pace has just given a particularly flinty line-reading, and you can see how it energises the director - the tiniest piece of the puzzle slotting into place.

[cut]

Olsen offers up another take of Thranduil, but Jackson is not as impressed. "Hmm, I just don't know how we're going to use it," he mulls "Chuck it in, we'll see if it becomes clear later on how we'd use it."



VeArkenstone
Lorien

Jul 31 2014, 11:07pm

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     There is lots and lots of historical stuff, I will bring it out a little at a time. [In reply to]  

From UT, Galadriel and Celeborn:

... it is said that when a thousand years of the Third Age had passed and the Shadow fell upon Greenwood the Great, the Silvan Elves ruled by Thranduil

retreated before it as it spread ever northward until at last Thranduil established his realm in the north-east of the forest and delved there a fortress and great halls underground. Oropher was of Sindarin origin, and no doubt Thranduil his son was following the example of King Thingol, though his halls were not to be compared with Menegoth. He had not the arts nor the wealth nor the aid of the Dwarves; and compared with the Elves of Doriath his Silvan folk were rude and rustic. Oropher had come among them with only a handful of Sindar, and they were soon merged with the Silvan Elves, adopting their language and taking names of Silvan form and style. This they did deliberately; for they (and other similar adventurers forgotten in the legends or only briefly named) came from Doriath after its ruin, and had no desire to leave Middle-earth nor to be merged with the other Sindar of Beleriand, dominated by the Noldorin Exiles for whom the folk of Doriath had no great love. They wished indeed to become Silvan folk and to return as they said, to the simple life natural to the Elves before the invitation of the Valar had disturbed it.

... Galadriel, assisted in this by her friendship with the Dwarves of Moria, had come into contact with the Nandorin realm on Lorinand on the other side of the Misty Mountains. This was peopled by those Elves who forsook the Great Journey of the Eldar from Cuivienen and settled in the woods of the Vale of Anduin and it extended into the forests on both sides of the Great River, including the region where afterwards was Dol Guldor. These Elves had no princes or rulers, and led their lives free of care while all Morgoth's power was concentrated in the North-west of Middle Earth, but many Sindar and Noldor came to dwell among them, and their "Sindarizing" under the impact of Beleriandic culture began. (It is not made clear when this movement into Lorinand took place; it may be that they came from Eregion by way of Khazad-dum and under the auspices of Galadriel.)

This seems to be a common theme, the Silvan Elves were living the lifestyle everyone wanted to live, peaceful, far removed from the kinslayings etc., and hidden away from Morgoth. The more I read of the Silvan Elves, the more I like them. I am also partial to the Sindarian Elves for obvious reasons. More later.

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Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Jul 31 2014, 11:26pm

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     Thank you Laineth, and welcome to the Thranduil Appreciation thread! [In reply to]  

That is, indeed, a very interesting tidbit! It's sounding like negotiations between the dwarves and the elves/men are going to happen similarly to how they happened in the book. Bilbo will deliver the Arkenstone (I'm assuming that's the "payment") and then Dain will arrive right when he's supposed to.

Sounds like Bubba the War Elk is making a reappearance too.Wink I know some people think ol' Bubba is OTT, but I think he's cute and suits Thranduil's personality quite well.Cool

I just really hope we'll get to see some good Thranduil/Bilbo interaction at some point, because I love how they contrast each other.Heart Preferably it will happen when Bilbo delivers the Arkenstone.

In the book, Bilbo took the Arkenstone, sneaked out of the mountain at night (with the Ring on for invisibility's sake, IIRC), and when he tries to cross the river/stream to get to the camps of the elves and men, he falls in and gets caught by some elven look-outs. I have a sneaking suspicion, from that one vlog where we see Bilbo, Gandalf, Legolas, and Tauriel all together that Legolas and Tauriel will be the elven look-outs in the movie, and may also be the elves that escort him part of the way back to the mountain after the Arkenstone is handed over.

That makes me think of something that isn't particularly relevant to the movie, but it's something I've always wondered about: I'm sure that as old as Thranduil is, he's seen or at least heard about hobbits, but what about Legolas and Tauriel. We still don't know how old Leggy is, but we know that Tauriel is only about 600 years old, which is quite young for an elf. Have either of them even seen a hobbit before? If they haven't, what will they think of Bilbo and, most importantly, will they think he's as cute and huggable as I think he is?Tongue

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With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
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Kerewyn
Rohan


Aug 1 2014, 7:40am

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"We've come to tell you payment of your debt has been offered… and accepted." oozes Pace onscreen.

"Thranduil's going to be very interested in Thorin's reaction," Jackson explains, effectively giving Empire a sneak preview of the director's commentary as Olsen runs through the takes. "He's trying to avoid war, so it is quite a big moment… Oh, that's good, I like that one."

Pace has just given a particularly flinty line-reading, and you can see how it energises the director - the tiniest piece of the puzzle slotting into place.


Hearting this. So exciting! Oh to be there watching the takes and the creative process! I’m going to be really looking out for that ‘flinty’ line now. Smile


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I'm sure that as old as Thranduil is, he's seen or at least heard about hobbits, but what about Legolas and Tauriel. We still don't know how old Leggy is, but we know that Tauriel is only about 600 years old, which is quite young for an elf. Have either of them even seen a hobbit before? If they haven't, what will they think of Bilbo and, most importantly, will they think he's as cute and huggable as I think he is?


And I wonder if their coming interaction with this particular hobbit will sway the decision in 60 years time to send Legolas to Rivendell, when they hear word of another particular hobbit.

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Kerewyn
Rohan


Aug 1 2014, 7:45am

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     And thank you, Ve [In reply to]  

I haven't read any UT, but am currently getting to grips with the beginning of the Sil,
so this compacted history containing Elven characters that I DO know is proving valuable to me. Smile I am looking forward to becoming more familiar with the Elven races. The Silvans sound like my type as well.

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Aug 1 2014, 11:21am

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Join the discussion here. Smile


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Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 2 2014, 1:44am

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The day may come when I quit messing around...but it is not this dayWink













Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 2 2014, 1:49am

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 2 2014, 2:31am

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But it is not this day! This day you 'SHOP! By all that you hold SQUEE on that miserable Mountain, I bid you *MWOAR, Thrall of the dyscopically-disagreeable-dwarf* Tongue



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ye gawds! Everybody and their psychoses want a piece! ROFLMAO. There's no keeping a good horde secret, is there?



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And this! "Naturally. And for many, literally" *wipes tears and sighs*

BotFA now!HeartHeartHeart



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"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 2 2014, 2:34am

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That's a concept! Sly


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I hope the powers that be see this!HeartMad eh, the white-font not the other bitses, that should be an offline discussion Evil




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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 2 2014, 2:54am

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     Nice! Thanks, Laineth! And SQUEE! [In reply to]  

Welcome to Thranduil's Appreciation Central Smile

That is an interesting bitsie. So Thranduil will be more involved in negotiations with Thorin than in the book. I can live with it, more Thranduil is always welcome HeartAngelic And war-elk!



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Pace has just given a particularly flinty line-reading, and you can see how it energises the director

Just HEART this. What I wouldn't give to be a fly in that room.



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"...the negotiations between Thranduil and Thorin...conclude abruptly with Dain's 'calvary' emerging on the adjacent hilltop."

SQUEE!!! More Thranduil and Thorin moments! HeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeart

So Dain will be riding on a pig. Really looking forward to him going up against Thranduil on Bubba!


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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 2 2014, 2:57am

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Is that his name? Am happy to know he's getting more screentime too Heart



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I just really hope we'll get to see some good Thranduil/Bilbo interaction at some point, because I love how they contrast each other.Heart Preferably it will happen when Bilbo delivers the Arkenstone.

YES! THIS! Must have this. Along with Leggy and Thranddy father-son moments. Mad




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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 2 2014, 3:00am

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     Just got to let the nerd out for a bit (Book Spoilers) [In reply to]  

Book spoiler space...








... adding space in case of accidental reading of something you prefer not to know.








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And I wonder if their coming interaction with this particular hobbit will sway the decision in 60 years time to send Legolas to Rivendell, when they hear word of another particular hobbit.

Leggy was sent to Rivendell to report Gollum's escape so Thranduil would prolly only hear about Frodo when he receives Leggy's note he won't be home for dinner.Smile



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"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 2 2014, 3:07am

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     The TORn Frame by Frame teaser analysis [In reply to]  

So in the analysis

42. Thranduil Warrior King.

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Sarumann: Battle Thranduil! I have a strong feeling that Lee Pace will pull off graceful and badass unlike any Elf actor we’ve seen so far!
Aragorn the Elfstone: We definitely need more of this guy. Dear The Desolation of Smaug Extended Edition: please rectify.


YES please!


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Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
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Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 2 2014, 3:30am

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     Thanks, Ve [In reply to]  

erm, I hope this comes out right, but just thought you might like to know you can save on typing out the details as they are also online in a good number of Tolkien related sites, so you can focus on sharing your thoughts and ideas. Smile


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Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 2 2014, 4:01am

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By all that you hold SQUEE on that miserable Mountain, I bid you *MWOAR, Thrall of the dyscopically-disagreeable-dwarf*

*Grins*. So hopelessly enthralledTongue. The swirling forces of dark beauty and light, too much for my feeble brain cells to hold. Only the enthralled would need to turn the fan up at noticing re the screen caps - which I can study in detail thanks to the HOD site - the BITE to Thorin's perfect flawless teeth and the almost mocking up-yours blazing eyesTongue. Oh, baby *cough* better take that conversation off-line too...Wink

Except then there's ThranduilHeart. I can predict a future in which, one day, I will have to replace my remote, because the buttons wore out from clicking through Thranduil's twin-sword scenes, frame by frame. I want sloooooo-moooooooTongue.

It's not my faultCool. Any time you are trolling through images - well SOME images in that a lot of the pics of Leona H. are some of the most terrifying things I've ever seen - with some images, especially in high-res, you just get lost, LOLWinkHeartCool

And hilariously, I did notice to the left of Gandalf in the original, the girl next to him is smiling and laughing - guess it's tough to keep all those extras PAYING ATTENTIONUnsure


VeArkenstone
Lorien

Aug 2 2014, 3:57pm

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     Thank you Kerewyn. Thorin will always, always, always [In reply to]  

have a special place in my heart, but I am finding these Elvish histories so fascinating. This is due in large part to visiting these threads. Thanks.

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VeArkenstone
Lorien

Aug 2 2014, 4:08pm

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     Please don't stop messing around! My favorite quote of the day: [In reply to]  

Let's talk about your new hedgehog and what a bored animal can do to an orchid collection. Lol!

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VeArkenstone
Lorien

Aug 2 2014, 4:12pm

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     Awesome, Laineth! [In reply to]  

 

Please, call me Ve.


VeArkenstone
Lorien

Aug 2 2014, 4:38pm

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     Thanks Lurker. And I definately took it the right way. [In reply to]  

But, I am so not computer savvy. I have tried linking, copying from other sites, etc. it just has not worked out (though I can copy from TORn to TORn, a minor miracle). I do not know if it is me or this library computer, and on this library computer there are time constraints and I feel like I am always in a rush. When I have my own computer again I am going to sit down with it and learn how to use the darn thing. There are a few more historical references I may have to type out because they are so fascinating and so relevant to these Hobbit movies. But one day ....... Smile Thanks though!

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Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 2 2014, 5:12pm

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     *bows deeply* thank you Ve! [In reply to]  


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Let's talk about your new hedgehog and what a bored animal can do to an orchid collection


*Grins* inspired by a certain real-life kitty who keeps eating the daylily leaves. Like there isn't plenty of nice grass around to chomp on. Or the times when an indoor plant is just in the way and is chucked to the floor by said graceful animal.

Tho in my modest efforts, my respect for the Peckish Owl has grown exponentially, w. the amount of work required, and her level of effortShocked. But *sigh* with the last movie it, I suspect, I may not feel like messing about, and certainly there are some images already re lines I won't cross - just don't feel comfortable. And I won't want to.Frown

Ah, ThorinHeartHeartHeart. A bit OT here but I did notice - and it's subtle - outside of the obvious crown and clothes, it seems to me RA is even carrying himself differently, tho perhaps I am projecting. But re BOFA it just seems like here is very much of a feel of a "king that has come into his own" even physically. What an actor too, every nuance of Thorin carried through frame by frame.HeartHeartHeartHeartHeart

Of course I have to geek out about the clothes, but while the costume designer talked about the "deceptive simplicity" of the line of Thorin's clothing, I hafta think in the end, RA's height and frame were a huge advantage in being able to carry off the wide shoulders of the fur, and the bulk of dwarf gear, without turning what was supposed to be a majestic figure into just a ball of cloth and fur and leather.

I hafta go back through this thread and read in depth! It's thanks to you and other posters a whole world has opened up for me to explore, that I was aware of but did not know what I had been missing. Already - tho for me lost my heart to the movie Thorin - thanks to movie Thranduil and learning about the Sil I appreciate Tolkien's elves in a way I never did.Heart

Lastly *sigh* final episode of the season for Halt and Catch Fire this weekendHeartFrownTongue


Kim
Valinor


Aug 2 2014, 5:32pm

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     And thank goodness for that! [In reply to]  

All that dark chocolate fur on his new coat is definitely made for snuggles! Squeeeeee! Heart





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Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 2 2014, 5:37pm

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If they haven't, what will they think of Bilbo and, most importantly, will they think he's as cute and huggable as I think he is?


Nice thought! And just MAYBE Bilbo will feel a 'wee bit better because at least he's overheard Tauriel speaking - and Bilbo in following the captured dwarves has seen both Legolas and Tauriel - and just MAYBE he knows they are not the kind of elves who will just shoot on sight. Not that they are not dangerous, but at least he would know they are not hair-trigger, even after what Beorn said about the Mirkwood elves.

I often wonder what LP's Thranduil will make of this Hobbit. But I am also fretting already - uselessly - because of the Empire article when both Bard and Thranduil approach Erebor. Is that canon?

Because maddened or not, I often think Bard might have stood some sort of chance, maybe even on the side w. Balin or the Heirs, if only, if only, he had used a soft approach. I can't think of anything worse he could have done than show up side by side with Thranduil, tho maybe he didn't know the back history.Frown And *sigh* I can't think of anything worse Bilbo could have done, than put the stone in the hands of Thranduil - in the book for be there was a lot more distance, but even then I was uncomfortable. But maybe in the film Bilbo tries to deal with Bard, but yah know Thranduil is a king and has the well-equipped army and just ends up dominating. Because he is a king.Heart

And now I wonder will Bilbo mention that, and just be ignored?Unsure


Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 2 2014, 5:43pm

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All that dark chocolate fur on his new coat is definitely made for snuggles! Squeeeeee! Heart


Oh, yes - and working with the high-res images off HOD site I was once again struck by the depth and beauty of RA's eyes, the luminous skin - *THUD*. I swear the man was born for close-ups.!!!HeartHeartHeartHeartHeart

Glad you found your way to this thread, it is getting moved farther back - but these TA threads are always interesting and a great time - and of course, dwarves go where they like Wink

PS. And no matter what, LOVE Thorin's fire. It's not logical of me, but sometimes I think (as tho this were all real LOL) what were they THINKING, what was Bilbo THINKING, to challenge DWARVES and Thorin, of all of them. The dwarf who would charge a 7-foot orc, and Bilbo knew all that!Unsure


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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 3 2014, 2:17am

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Embrace your peckish genius Wink



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Except then there's ThranduilHeart. I can predict a future in which, one day, I will have to replace my remote, because the buttons wore out from clicking through Thranduil's twin-sword scenes, frame by frame. I want sloooooo-moooooooTongue.

LoL I'm just trying pace myself and take it one step at a time. First the DOS EE (hopefully with the white stag, and full Company audience with ThranduilHeart, and of course extend the T&T scene!)




(my first gimpie! Blush Wow... is it hard work!! Couldn't figure out how to add background colour to the text layer and had to dither with the colour so it's not hard to read - I hope. An hour well-spent though. Methinks we likes this toy, precious, though it's gonna take some doing EvilPirateCrazyCool )


Just call me Lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 3 2014, 3:19am

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     Cool! Hope the computer situation works out for you soon // [In reply to]  

 


Just call me Lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Kerewyn
Rohan


Aug 3 2014, 3:43am

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     Heh... I am always showing myself up... [In reply to]  


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Leggy was sent to Rivendell to report Gollum's escape so Thranduil would prolly only hear about Frodo when he receives Leggy's note he won't be home for dinner.Smile

That's what happens when one has watched FOTR multiple times (Leggy's nicely timed arrival) but only read the book twice
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'People don't know where I begin and latex ends, which has always been an ambition for me.' (Martin Freeman)


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 3 2014, 3:51am

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     Your honorary thrall pass is permanent, you know [In reply to]  

Tongue


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I hafta go back through this thread and read in depth! It's thanks to you and other posters a whole world has opened up for me to explore, that I was aware of but did not know what I had been missing. Already - tho for me lost my heart to the movie Thorin - thanks to movie Thranduil and learning about the Sil I appreciate Tolkien's elves in a way I never did.Heart

Lastly *sigh* final episode of the season for Halt and Catch Fire this weekendHeartFrownTongue

Just thinking back to my first post and the crickets- cricking only situation back then, I sure am glad for everybody's indulgence to get the TA thread going again Blush Just love the fact that TA is now a part of Thrall lexicon too *snigger*

Ooh, can't wait, re the HCF finale. Hopefully we hear word of the new season soon! *fingers crossed*


Just call me Lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 3 2014, 4:11am

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     Thranduil and Bilbo, and negotiations at Erebor (some nerdy thoughts) [In reply to]  

ETA: oops, book spoilers!





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I often wonder what LP's Thranduil will make of this Hobbit.

Bilbo in the book I believe formed his very positive opinion of Thranduil while gallivanting through the Halls (of course he was already naturally biased, since he thought well of Elves ever since the wafting chiffon parade of Rivendell Tongue ). And he liked what he saw, because why else would he think to request an audience with both Bard, who he apparently interacted with in Lake-town, and Thranduil (whom he would have had opportunity to observe only while sneaking around) when he sneaked into the camp of the combined host? So i am peeved they did not show Bilbo in the Halls to set that up. Hopefully they are still going with that sentiment of Bilbo's - time for them to redeem Thranduil's noble cred for the general audience's benefit Frown

But interesting question there - what would Thranduil make of Bilbo? I do believe he does have some idea of hobbits, since there was a mixed commune (of hobbits, elves and men... can't remember if there were dwarves) in the Vale of Anduin, near the fateful Gladden Fields in the past, and he might even have stopped there en-route home from the War. I think Thranduil will take to this hobbit. And as Eruvandi said, with his superb deductive intellect he probably would put things together faster than a dwarf can put away supper. Certainly they parted on cordial terms after travelling together as far as Mirkwood's borders on the way home. I so wanna see Thranduil saying those book lines re Bilbo in and post Battle! *pout* Hopefully we get more development for this relationship in the movie.



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Because maddened or not, I often think Bard might have stood some sort of chance, maybe even on the side w. Balin or the Heirs, if only, if only, he had used a soft approach. I can't think of anything worse he could have done than show up side by side with Thranduil, tho maybe he didn't know the back history.Frown And *sigh* I can't think of anything worse Bilbo could have done, than put the stone in the hands of Thranduil - in the book for be there was a lot more distance, but even then I was uncomfortable. But maybe in the film Bilbo tries to deal with Bard, but yah know Thranduil is a king and has the well-equipped army and just ends up dominating. Because he is a king.Heart

And now I wonder will Bilbo mention that, and just be ignored?Unsure

Re Bilbo dealing with Bard - see above. Smile

I was quite surprised at the Empire bit about Thranduil being with Bard at the negotiating wall (though of course any bit more of Thranduil we get I can cetainly live with Angelic). In the book, Thranduil kept away for the most part, which I thought was prudent, aside from being THIS KING who would naturally dominateHeart, since Thorin had expressed his outrage and demanded Bard dissociate himself with the Elves and get them packing before he would consider talking to him. Bard, who true to his honourable word stayed allies with Thranduil, spoke with Thorin by himself at least once or twice. Thranduil only appeared at Erebor's gates with Bard and the rest, when the deadline for Thorin's answer and payment was due, aka the start of Battle.




Just call me Lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


(This post was edited by Lurker in the Mirk on Aug 3 2014, 4:15am)


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 3 2014, 4:16am

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No problem! Confession: I only remember this because I've got this part of the itinerary burned into my brain re ficcing ShockedCrazy



Just call me Lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 3 2014, 5:56am

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     inspiration is from RL [In reply to]  

Kudos to kitty! though... erm I guess you already know this but is that plant she has a penchant for an actually lily? Cos Lilies are a class of flowers that seem to figure prominently on the plants poisonous to kitties list.


I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


VeArkenstone
Lorien

Aug 3 2014, 7:20pm

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     Thanks Avandel for your as usual gracious and positive response (this is how everyone responds in here though!) [In reply to]  

I feel exactly the same way, because of you and Lurker and everyone else, this whole new world has opened up for me. I am reading again and learning all sorts of cool things about Elvish history (of which I knew absolutely nothing), and ancient Dwarvish history (of which I knew little). And it is fun coming in here, there is so much going on and different ideas being bounced around and funny things to read. I am loving it!

I think I am equally enthralled with both Thorin and Thranduil at this point, neck and neck. I am reading more Elvish history tho cuz I am pretty good with the Dwarvish histories but very week in my Elvish histories.
Lee Pace and Richard Armitage rock, or should I say, Richard Armitage and Lee Pace rock?!

Please, call me Ve.


VeArkenstone
Lorien

Aug 3 2014, 7:23pm

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     I hope the computer thing works out soon too. It will, just have to patient. [In reply to]  

And, please, let there be a white stag in DOS EE!

Please, call me Ve.


Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 3 2014, 9:31pm

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     To Ve and Lurker both - re a T & T Thrall, that's good because: [In reply to]  



Whoo-hoo, looks like Lurker has taken her first steps into Gimping, which is either terrifying or completely awesome, or awesomely terrifyingHeartCoolWink. So she now
can slap together posters like this one - just in case you can't choose, now you don't have to, LOL. Tho this was just a quicky Gimp - OK not THAT quick
but fun - and if I were going to stick on my wall or in a scrap book I would work a lot harder.

But it's to encourage Lurker, 'coz Gimp while super-powerful isn't the most INTUITIVE SW, and I had it easier 'coz I knew some PS. But once you learn one of
these, you can power your way through other photo SW. Lurker, I think what you did was terrific and was what I would have suggested re first project, hang in there
with it. One of the big things is learning all those handy eraser tools and blending tools to get ride of ANNOYING clutter in images you want to use.
Little by little! Smile

Not like I am some expert or anything anyway - not like the WETA guysUnsure. Usually it's having some idea pop into my head and THEN I go
get the manual to figure out how to do it.

Well Ve, LOL thank you I value your good opinion of me, tho I get less gracious fast if there isn't enough ThorinHeart - DOS made me so happy and now looking
forward to the EE - and lately more Thranduil.Heart Thanks to trailer adrenaline I have spending more time messing around than anything else, but gotta
wind down - I haven't read anything really in a week, which is kind of weird for me. CoolCrazy


Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 3 2014, 9:34pm

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     kitty poison plants [In reply to]  

Thank you - yes, I live in terror as to what they MAY nibble on - including finding out some kitties have a wool fetish and eat the stuff!
For a while my Java seemed to eat carpet fibers, but thankfully he seems to have grown out of eating lint CrazyCrazyCrazyFrown


Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 3 2014, 9:56pm

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     Thank you for the book info [In reply to]  

Since the Thranduil part of the Hobbit is pretty much a blank. So perhaps PJ will ratchet things up from the original, e.g. tho am not sure WHY. Of course it's more interesting and to put it bluntly makes Thorin look less of a jerk (not that I EVER think that way re my beloved badass) but for those thick types in the audience who can't appreciate a nuance:

"See! there's Thranduil making the madder Thorin even more insane, but of course Thranduil drives Thorin crazy and the appearance of Thranduil sends Thorin over the edge!!! And there's good-guy saintly Bard channeling Aragorn's perpetually sad and far-away look, because he's a good and noble guy, and we need the audience to switch their affections to Bard 'coz we're gonna kill off some popular characters and we don't want people walking out with all the snack money!! And we need to emphasize Thranduil's HAUTEUR, because his subsequent change of attitude will be all the more DRAMATIC!! *Sob* Does everyone GET IT???"

*Ahem* Sorry, had a snark attack.Heart But LOL;

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ever since the wafting chiffon parade of Rivendell


But - perhaps what the Empire magazine IS as you describe from the book, it's only at the end of negotiations that Thranduil makes as appearance, which would make sense re the trailer as Bard does come off as desperate and pleading - exactly how it might appear if things were on an edge, and there is this army at Bard's back at this point. UnsureFrown


Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 3 2014, 10:23pm

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     And a PS re Gimp tips [In reply to]  

I've gotta another answer under a dual post to Ve, but re the text showing up problem....

1) Gimp probably has a drop-shadow thing - probably under effects, but a cheat way is to duplicate the text layer, color it black, and
in the layer box drag it under the text layer in the layer palette - instant shadow....

2) Make a new layer - grab the square selection tool - is nice if you click on feather edges and you can adjust the feathering amount - draw a
box and fill w. black or whatever. Then change the opacity of the layer to 20-30% and put this box layer under your text - you can see this kind
of thing in the "rabble" image I did - some references will call this is screen layer.

Keep on Gimping, when you can *grins* we have months to find something to do before EEFrownFrownFrown

PS - And you did a background knock-out w. the Thranduil pic! That's awesome! Pain isn't knocking out all that background clutter *grins* Cool


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 4 2014, 2:17pm

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     Our late great white oaf [In reply to]  

Teddy could never get over his fetish for wet dishcloths Frown We were always waking up to the sorry dried up and chewed through remnants all over the floor. Somehow no one can remember to hang up the wet ones out of his fangs. It got so we simply stopped replacing them. Luckily we don't host guests all that much... Tongue


I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 4 2014, 2:25pm

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     *prints to pdf and saves notes... & saves pic* [In reply to]  

Sly Thanks for the nudge out the door



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Whoo-hoo, looks like Lurker has taken her first steps into Gimping, which is either terrifying or completely awesome, or awesomely terrifying

LOL The tooth, and nothing but the tooth will out Tongue But hey, if our stoutly isolationist beauty can deign to step out his front doors, I can certainly venture into the maelstrom of PS'ing EvilTongueWink



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Lurker, I think what you did was terrific and was what I would have suggested re first project, hang in there
with it. One of the big things is learning all those handy eraser tools and blending tools to get ride of ANNOYING clutter in images you want to use.
Little by little! Smile

Aww... thanks! This padawan is ready, Master!



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Thanks to trailer adrenaline I have spending more time messing around than anything else, but gotta
wind down - I haven't read anything really in a week, which is kind of weird for me. CoolCrazy

My silmie schedule is shot to hell as well Crazy though why am I here fervently making posts SlyPirateAngelic




I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 4 2014, 2:29pm

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     *prints to pdf and saves notes again* [In reply to]  

Thanks for the tips!!! I did think of putting a layer under the font but it's still awkward to move objects, layers and I got tired (well lazy if i'm honest) Evil... and also applying fonts, can't seem to make it stick. Crazy Will dither some more as and when for sure. Evil


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Pain isn't knocking out all that background clutter *grins* Cool

That sounds ominous *shivers*



I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 4 2014, 2:31pm

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Since the Thranduil part of the Hobbit is pretty much a blank. So perhaps PJ will ratchet things up from the original, e.g. tho am not sure WHY. Of course it's more interesting and to put it bluntly makes Thorin look less of a jerk (not that I EVER think that way re my beloved badass) but for those thick types in the audience who can't appreciate a nuance:

"See! there's Thranduil making the madder Thorin even more insane, but of course Thranduil drives Thorin crazy and the appearance of Thranduil sends Thorin over the edge!!! And there's good-guy saintly Bard channeling Aragorn's perpetually sad and far-away look, because he's a good and noble guy, and we need the audience to switch their affections to Bard 'coz we're gonna kill off some popular characters and we don't want people walking out with all the snack money!! And we need to emphasize Thranduil's HAUTEUR, because his subsequent change of attitude will be all the more DRAMATIC!! *Sob* Does everyone GET IT???"

well, yeah, them's paying customers too ya'know. Frown Sometimes I just feel totally put out with the studios' meddlesome emphasis on dumb down.



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But - perhaps what the Empire magazine IS as you describe from the book, it's only at the end of negotiations that Thranduil makes as appearance, which would make sense re the trailer as Bard does come off as desperate and pleading - exactly how it might appear if things were on an edge, and there is this army at Bard's back at this point. UnsureFrown

Gah! Is December here yet?




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Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 4 2014, 2:34pm

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     Addendum: Thranduil's badass swords and swordplay [In reply to]  

Kerewyn: for you - I made a new thread to mine the knowledge collective on the topic and it's been gratifying to have the wise weigh in and validate our armchair speculation Smile


I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 4 2014, 2:40pm

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     PS I snuck midday and was chuffed [In reply to]  

to see all 3 Thranduil threads near the top of the first page, sorted by activity rather then creation of course.




I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Kerewyn
Rohan


Aug 4 2014, 9:30pm

Post #145 of 207 (850 views)
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     Ooh I saw that! [In reply to]  

Read it on my phone last night during a near-midnight train home, and have just risen early so I can post a response before the workday from hell (it's gone ballistic again) Cheers so much for taking it to the next level! Smile

Re all this GIMPing, which makes me think of the masked man in the box in Pulp Fiction... if only I had time and patience to learn something like this. When I eventually make my new avatar (I see yours Avendel and Lurker - very nice!) it'll probably be using Paintbox. Crazy (I don't even have Photoshop - which is crazy for a creative person)

'People don't know where I begin and latex ends, which has always been an ambition for me.' (Martin Freeman)


VeArkenstone
Lorien

Aug 4 2014, 10:24pm

Post #146 of 207 (823 views)
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     I like this gimping thing, I'm printing this one out! [In reply to]  

I have a very good opinion of you, Avandel, you are funny, intelligent, and think deep thoughts. Wind down time is good, but don't wind down to far for too long!

Please, call me Ve.


VeArkenstone
Lorien

Aug 4 2014, 10:32pm

Post #147 of 207 (862 views)
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     My orange and white cat, Weiner Baggins, would eat on my plants, [In reply to]  

get sick all over the floor, and then dig all of the dirt out of the flower pots and do his business in it. I had throw away some of my favorite plants and give away the survivors. He's an ornery one!

Please, call me Ve.


Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 5 2014, 12:21am

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get sick all over the floor, and then dig all of the dirt out of the flower pots and do his business in it. I had throw away some of my favorite plants and give away the survivors. He's an ornery one!


ROFLOL!!!!! - yep, how often, since I have a Maine Coone, have I stepped in cat sick green fur hairballs. And she refuses to use a scratching post, so I am actually HAPPY when she uses the heating
grate and not the "designer" baskets. Funny how I wouldn't have her any other way, even when she smacks me on occasion. But she comes and sits between the shower curtain and liner,
and is near my shoulder when I am flipping through the WETA booksHeartHeartHeart.




Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 5 2014, 12:24am

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     We wants this so badly, precioussss...... [In reply to]  


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And, please, let there be a white stag in DOS EE!

More than any 'ol ring....Wink


Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 5 2014, 12:34am

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     Get thee some Gimp! [In reply to]  

Which is as or more powerful than PS, is stable, been around a long time, and is free! This is good stuff - lots of
junk in the open source arena, but the UNIX/Linux folks developed this.

Paint and other sw can do a LOT, but the time comes when you just wanna do some "floating" heads LOL
or montages and clean up so bad images - IMO can't beat photo editing software for getting rid of annoying
PR text and stuff like that, or for making your own posters.

http://www.gimp.org/downloads/


But I know you are BUSY. Something to tinker with on a rainy day, maybe?


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 5 2014, 12:52pm

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     You're welcome and listen to Avandel re GIMP [In reply to]  

I'm tippy-toe dipping but it's started an itch for more CrazyTongue Way more fun than powerpoint. Though I've never managed to get a grip on other PS sw... the hideous MS default Paint for example. Evil

If, no, when you do install GIMP, 1 quirk in the process I noticed. The help/manual is a separate install unless you want to always refer to it online. There's no prompt but you will need to restart the 'puter for it to take. Silly me installed it X times without being able to open the help, closed it in a huff, and that fateful day I decided to try my maiden gimpy, it opened on cue like a flower Tongue


I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 5 2014, 2:25pm

Post #152 of 207 (1457 views)
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     LP scores higher on some beauty analysis thingy than Thranduil [In reply to]  

... and the Elvenking's downfall? His pointy ears!Shocked

Same for OB vs Legolas! Tis obviously a conceitful device of Man, unable to cope with the aesthetical truth of Elvendom Frown But it sure got the analysis right just looking at the mortals AngelicTongue


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Lee Pace = 9.11 / 10
Thranduil = 8.32 / 10
Orlando Bloom = 8.69 / 10
Legolas = 7.36
(source)



I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 5 2014, 2:31pm

Post #153 of 207 (1412 views)
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     Weiner Baggins [In reply to]  

What a name! And the character to match!

Seems to be a number of cat ladies here Smile


I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 5 2014, 2:32pm

Post #154 of 207 (1417 views)
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stepped in cat sick green fur hairballs. And she refuses to use a scratching post, so I am actually HAPPY when she uses the heating
grate and not the "designer" baskets. Funny how I wouldn't have her any other way, even when she smacks me on occasion.

So much feels for this. Evil




I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 5 2014, 5:52pm

Post #155 of 207 (1441 views)
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     So admire Lurker for jumping in re photo sw - wee tip *grins* [In reply to]  

Hmm - gotta look at the manual, *arrogantly*Crazy since I knew some PS have just bulldozed my way through Gimping.

I might try to put up an ad hoc Gimp tips page in the OT section - not that I am some expert, but I'll look at the manual and try to come up w. some quickie tips that might be less boring - hope. If I have time.

Also don't want to sound patronizing when telling folks stuff - but anyway: most of the time, if you are cutting stuff out, it helps to set the feathering to 1-2 pixels. Maybe more in some cases. Especially w. low-res web stuff, w. the finished image the mind blurs pixels so you look like you have a nice smooth edge. Feathering is your friend.Cool
Gets rid of that "ghosting" you see in jagged web images.

Also when cutting out stuff, the "magic wand" tool is great, as it selects similar color pixels and you can adjust the closeness of the pixel colors it selects - the tolerance - I usually have this set at 32, and adjust closer or coarser as needed. Click anti-alias "ON".

Sometimes - like w. the swords I used in the quickie poster - it helps to increase the contrast a bit, so the magic wand and other tools can "see" the different color pixels. E.g, whitish swords on a white background, the program can't tell the difference. And sometimes you can draw in a faint grey line or add something to the image you want, to separate the colors - e.g. like draw a dark line along the sword. That way you can click in the white background, and the magic wand will only pick up the white. Then either clear the background to transparent, or invert selection and copy or cut this now-free-floating sword to the next imageCool as a new layer.


Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 6 2014, 3:18pm

Post #156 of 207 (1390 views)
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     Looked like Dale to me [In reply to]  


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The trailer is so neat! Any idea where he is? He seems to be all alone as he battles the orcs. It is intriging, why is he not with Legolas, Tauriel and his army? Oh, so many questions ........ only 4 1/2 months to go, geez!

The structures in the background, IMO look identical in style to what we've seen of Dale so far. It seems like a lot of the fighting will happen in and around the ruined city.

As far as where Legolas, Tauriel and the army are, it could be that they're there and we just can't see them in this shot. Or maybe the fighting has gotten so widespread that individuals are having to split up to "take care of business". Anyway, Thranduil seems highly capable of taking care of himself.Wink

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 6 2014, 3:53pm

Post #157 of 207 (1465 views)
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     The TORn Tuesday chat room regulars named him [In reply to]  

It happened before I started participating in the chat room, but yeah that's his name, according to them. I think it suits him in an odd sort of way.Cool

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 6 2014, 4:05pm

Post #158 of 207 (1463 views)
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     So that first BotFA frontal? Wall paper size! [In reply to]  

More than adequate and no pesky clutter either. But it's not quite sized right. Pity.

http://elanillounico.com/...s/hobbitlbdlce22.jpg

*tiredly trudges offline*


I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


(This post was edited by Lurker in the Mirk on Aug 6 2014, 4:07pm)


Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 6 2014, 4:49pm

Post #159 of 207 (1381 views)
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     Sounds a bit like me [In reply to]  


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Well, I like his solo/small group ventures better anyway, not that I don't have love for the cast and crew. Interviewers tend to forget him when there's an ensemble. Doesn't help that he seems to like to blend in, make himself small and just smile quietly.

I can understand that. I'm the blend-into-the-background-smile-and-nod type too and I generally find being quiet and listening to others more comfortable that jumping in with my own comments.

Of course, sometimes I'm a little too quiet and accidentally sneak up on people and startle them.Blush I accidentally startle my mom all the time and I once even startled a woman in a public restroom just by quietly standing there waiting for my mom.BlushBlush Seriously, this woman walked in, put her purse and book on the sink, turned around and gasped because she didn't realize I was there. I guess I was standing in just the right spot that she didn't see me when she came in and couldn't see me in the mirror too. She laughed and said, "I'm sorry, I didn't see you there!" and moved on. I noticed that the book she had put on the sink was an Agatha Christie novel which could explain why she was so jumpy!Tongue


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Agreed! I was surprised only Dwalin was present. Like I said elsewhere, he should have put on his knuckle-dusters, and mark Dwarven attendance and take names Evil

I guess after most of the dwarves made it to FantasyCon, their schedules must have filled back up. Busy, busy dwarves.

That reminds me, did any of y'all see this pic? The captions people came up with were pretty funny!Laugh


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ETA: by the Valar! Me Gondor! When did that happen? More - You Tol Eressea! Wow! *bows*


Welcome to Gondor! It's very nice here (scenic views, cute not-crazy stewards and all that) but I feel like I've been here for forever and I'm still 66 posts away from busting out and going to the Grey Havens. Smile

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 6 2014, 5:16pm

Post #160 of 207 (1380 views)
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     UT [In reply to]  

*excitedly waves book in the air* I just got myself a copy of UT a couple weeks ago! Cool I guess I know what I'll be reading after I finish the Sil. Must read about elves!

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 6 2014, 5:22pm

Post #161 of 207 (1388 views)
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     I was so hoping that EE clip from yesterday would show the stag [In reply to]  

But alas, it did not.Unimpressed I figure the stag will show up not too long after Bombur falls asleep though. The suspense!

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 6 2014, 5:24pm

Post #162 of 207 (1383 views)
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     *Waves to Eruvandi* [In reply to]  



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That reminds me, did any of y'all see this pic? The captions people came up with were pretty funny!Laugh



LOL!!! But to reach the Havens, you can be like me and lead every possible thread back to Thorin's hair, and lard up images everywhereWink

Tho I like to think of it as a public service....Wink




Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 6 2014, 5:31pm

Post #163 of 207 (1371 views)
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     I vote Gally [In reply to]  

Gally sounds more feminine to me. I was thinking that we could use Gladdy for Gil-Galad should we reference him at some point, but at the same time, I think Gilly might suit him better.Laugh

Nice interviews!Smile Yay fighting Thranduil!LaughCool

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 6 2014, 5:37pm

Post #164 of 207 (1391 views)
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     Whaaaaaat?! [In reply to]  

What's wrong with pointy ears? Pointy ears are hawt!HeartHeartHeart

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 6 2014, 5:38pm

Post #165 of 207 (1400 views)
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     Lurker - why let that stop you - make your own! [In reply to]  

*Grins*AngelicSmileCoolWink

'Coz you be a Gimper. True enough, there are images that may not be the right size, and this is always a problem.
But then you can be arty.

So:

1. Figure out what size and res you need - for wallpaper I suspect it'll be 1200 x 800 and 72 dpi, or something like that.

Now go make a new file in Gimp - you can make the file and image size to whatever you like. There won't be anything there of course. Notice in the toolbar your squares of foreground and background colors. I like to fill a blank image w. black.

2. Now find some Thranduil images.

3. Open these up, select all re each image, copy and paste each image into your black image - stack those layers up. Use the scaling tool in the toolbar to size individual layers. Use the move tool to move stuff around.

4. Move everything around until you have a pretty collage. Add some text if you like......

5. Flatten the whole thing and export as .bmp, .png, .jpg.

I might do a quick how-to in the OT section, for fun. Tho it'll probably have the Thorinitis influence....Wink


VeArkenstone
Lorien

Aug 7 2014, 12:05am

Post #166 of 207 (1371 views)
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     Thanks Erubandi. It does look like Dale and that would be the most logical place. [In reply to]  

And yes, woe be to any orc who comes within five feet of him. Loving the screencap, I like that only his eyes are visible and not blurred, while his attackers are totally blurred and unrecognizable.

Please, call me Ve.


VeArkenstone
Lorien

Aug 7 2014, 12:15am

Post #167 of 207 (1368 views)
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     Weiner Baggins knows his name too. He is a sweet kitty, but with an edge. [In reply to]  

 

Please, call me Ve.


VeArkenstone
Lorien

Aug 7 2014, 12:25am

Post #168 of 207 (1348 views)
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     UT is my favorite book! It is full of such interesting details found no where else. [In reply to]  

A lot of it Tolkien wrote near the end of his life. He would have these insights, for instance, while sitting at the dinner table, he would grab napkins and begin writing details about Elfs or Dwarfs or Numenoreans, and not just a few sentences either, very long detailed notes. Oh, it is so, so interesting. It fascinates me that he was still writing (and doing some of his most interesting writing) while practically on his deathbed, Middle Earth never really left him.

Yea!

Please, call me Ve.


VeArkenstone
Lorien

Aug 7 2014, 12:28am

Post #169 of 207 (1339 views)
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     Please let it be so! [In reply to]  

 

Please, call me Ve.


Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 7 2014, 2:04am

Post #170 of 207 (1373 views)
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     So OK, I put up some Gimp tips in the Off Topic section [In reply to]  

Because the creativity of Ringers should NOT be contained, IMO. Especially when there isn't enough ThranduilWink


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 7 2014, 2:18pm

Post #171 of 207 (1334 views)
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     oooh, thanks! *prints and files for ref* // [In reply to]  

 


I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 7 2014, 2:44pm

Post #172 of 207 (1343 views)
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     LOL Thanks [In reply to]  

Bubba it is then, until we hear from Moose the horse, or even LP... wonder what Thranduil thinks though. He probably has an awesome name for his beloved war-elk, much along the lines of Asfaloth.


I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


Heart Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)


Laugh Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)


"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

=======
Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 7 2014, 2:48pm

Post #173 of 207 (1318 views)
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     And me too [In reply to]  


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I can understand that. I'm the blend-into-the-background-smile-and-nod type too and I generally find being quiet and listening to others more comfortable that jumping in with my own comments.

*shakes on it* that's really me too Smile



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Of course, sometimes I'm a little too quiet and accidentally sneak up on people and startle them.Blush I accidentally startle my mom all the time and I once even startled a woman in a public restroom just by quietly standing there waiting for my mom.BlushBlush Seriously, this woman walked in, put her purse and book on the sink, turned around and gasped because she didn't realize I was there. I guess I was standing in just the right spot that she didn't see me when she came in and couldn't see me in the mirror too. She laughed and said, "I'm sorry, I didn't see you there!" and moved on. I noticed that the book she had put on the sink was an Agatha Christie novel which could explain why she was so jumpy!Tongue

LOL... i'm sounding like a broken record, but me too!!!




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That reminds me, did any of y'all see this pic? The captions people came up with were pretty funny!Laugh

Did too! (boy is this a ditto post)



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Welcome to Gondor! It's very nice here (scenic views, cute not-crazy stewards and all that) but I feel like I've been here for forever and I'm still 66 posts away from busting out and going to the Grey Havens. Smile

Thanks! We likeses the First Steward of the FAHeart

Though you'll be leaving soon eh? Hope to catch up with you in the Havens soon!Smile





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Aug 7 2014, 2:52pm

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Gally sounds more feminine to me. I was thinking that we could use Gladdy for Gil-Galad should we reference him at some point, but at the same time, I think Gilly might suit him better.Laugh

Gilly for Gil-galad for sure. I'm not sure why, but from the LotR days, have actually referred to her as Gladys in convo. Sorta very her in a way. Gally is too girly for someone named Nerwen methinks.



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Nice interviews!Smile Yay fighting Thranduil!LaughCool

Wished there was more though. Dishy King!HeartHeartHeart




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Valinor


Aug 7 2014, 2:53pm

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Did you read the details? Thranduil actually outscored LP on one aspect, equalled him in 2, and lost in the ear stakes only. How can that put LP so far ahead? Truly, the treachery of Man knows no bounds *no accounting for sense of aesthetics*. FrownTongue


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Aug 7 2014, 2:56pm

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for anyone interested. It's here.

And muchly appreciated, Avandel!


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Aug 7 2014, 2:59pm

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Aug 7 2014, 3:02pm

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HeartHeartHeartHeart of course. But the nerd is also itchy... Noticing the elf in the background on the right. Just wonder the context of the shot. Any theories, fellow Thralls?


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Aug 8 2014, 2:23am

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Re my fuzzy book details - but how does all this come together? So Bard is at Laketown, does Thranduil form an alliance with him there, and then offer go ahead and see if the dwarves are truly dead?

But then who are the bodies? They look like Laketowners - so did Laketowners head for the mountain, figuring they could get some gold (still assuming the dwarves are all dead) and think it's obvious they were killed by orcs - not too surprising as Beorn had talked about the growing number of orcs, and orcs had already been sniffing around Laketown, and could still be tracking dwarves down.

I'm gonna assume Thranduil doesn't routinely travel alone as king (unless he wants to, e.g. the stag). Any more than Thorin rowed the boat across to Erebor. It would make sense he would head a scouting party, especially since he knew Erebor and wants his white gems.

And where is Legolas? Why wouldn't he go with his father?

Or does Thranduil just ignore the refugee camp, in the sense that Bard is there handling things - but will Bard mention there had been dwarves at his house, now missing? And why, since both Fili and Kili were in Laketown, are THEY assumed dead? Because even if Smaug had killed Thorin, the heir to a throne is still alive, or does Thranduil not know - or not care - of the possible existence of Fili and Kili? Or is the fact that there are THREE Heirs of Durin, not just Thorin, not matter and will be a big hole in the movie that PJ doesn't deal with?

So for me, inquiring minds want to know how Thranduil ends up checking things out in Dale in the first place, with so far no Legolas and no Bard around?

Then there are those shots of Bard and Legolas talking, so does Thranduil tell his son to handle things at Laketown, he is going ahead to Erebor?

And SQUEEE what if there IS a clash of kings - Thranduil that glorious armour makes it to Erebor, and guess who is there in all his chocolate leather glory - OMG the thought of if....HeartHeartHeart

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Aug 8 2014, 12:06pm

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For Avandel: Into The Storm B-rolls 1 and 2.


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Aug 8 2014, 1:04pm

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Re my fuzzy book details - but how does all this come together?

Thanks for humouring us, precious Smile

So many intriguing details to ponder in the adaptation! In the book Thranduil doesn't stop in Dale at all. In fact, none of the characters does and there's no action there. Of course it also meant Thranduil simply popped up once in a bit and delivers his cool lines and do his cool stuff before, during and after the Battle. I want to believe the changes PJ and crew does mean there's MORE Thranduil!time in the movie. I don't want to posit too much and get spoiled (I still like my movies to have surprises... that I LIKE hopefully) but I can't resist the nerding Tongue



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I'm gonna assume Thranduil doesn't routinely travel alone as king (unless he wants to, e.g. the stag). Any more than Thorin rowed the boat across to Erebor. It would make sense he would head a scouting party, especially since he knew Erebor and wants his white gems.

No indeed. I think both Thranduil and Thorin are old-school in that way. As in they believe in pomp and formalities, as in even if they're practical they understand the use of fanfare and pomp in sending and maintaining a message. For Thranduil, he's been King so long, and with his folk being long-lived, things can get a bit too familiar and pally after a while, and I imagine it might be an impediment to his kingly duties to have that gap closed. So he would maintain what may otherwise be facetious procedures to continually remind his folk he is KING. Thorin needs to keep sending that message for quite the opposite - Dwarves seemed to be all for proper hierarchy and tradition. So with the Goblin wars' aftermath, he is still just King-in-waiting as far as the seven kingdoms are concerned... until he has the Arkenstone. But he is de-facto KING with Thror and Thrain missing. I can't imagine it being easy for him to lead effectively over the long-term just on moral-authority. He would need to build and maintain his Kingly cred for conviction and hold his own when he does connect with the rulers of the other kingdoms. So of that high-and-mighty i-dont-lift-my-pinky-talk-to-the-tangled-mane act usually goes some way in that.

But! Regardless, I think Thranduil would not head a scouting party - too small and functional a force out of necessity. Besides scouting is important but too menial for a King to personally direct. He would probably lead an advance party, so that he still has a tasteful number of Elves with him even if light in arms, and the proper fanfare and pomp can still proceed him and ready the folks for his parade Smile He might personally direct a Black Ops making a run for them Gems though. I'd like to see that Heart



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And where is Legolas? Why wouldn't he go with his father?

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Then there are those shots of Bard and Legolas talking, so does Thranduil tell his son to handle things at Laketown, he is going ahead to Erebor?

hmmm... methinks it's not a matter of choice, as in he's prolly off on a different errand, or perhaps still dallying with Bolg Crazy



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But then who are the bodies? They look like Laketowners - so did Laketowners head for the mountain, figuring they could get some gold (still assuming the dwarves are all dead) and think it's obvious they were killed by orcs - not too surprising as Beorn had talked about the growing number of orcs, and orcs had already been sniffing around Laketown, and could still be tracking dwarves down.

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Or does Thranduil just ignore the refugee camp, in the sense that Bard is there handling things - but will Bard mention there had been dwarves at his house, now missing? And why, since both Fili and Kili were in Laketown, are THEY assumed dead? Because even if Smaug had killed Thorin, the heir to a throne is still alive, or does Thranduil not know - or not care - of the possible existence of Fili and Kili? Or is the fact that there are THREE Heirs of Durin, not just Thorin, not matter and will be a big hole in the movie that PJ doesn't deal with?

So for me, inquiring minds want to know how Thranduil ends up checking things out in Dale in the first place, with so far no Legolas and no Bard around?

So maybe the Laketowners tried to make a treasure-run and got the run-in of their lives re Bolg? And perhaps someone, maybe a dishy Elven scoutHeart report strangers loitering in Dale and the inimitable Magnificence goes to check it out because orcs mean Legolas may be there and in trouble?



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And SQUEEE what if there IS a clash of kings - Thranduil that glorious armour makes it to Erebor, and guess who is there in all his chocolate leather glory - OMG the thought of if....HeartHeartHeart

There better be! I want to see the maelstrom of froth and cacao powder in the latte cup EvilMad

Of course Thranduil gets to Erebor. What are you saying? He and new BFF Bard gets to tsk Thorin and thwock him in his treasure-arrogance, thanks to everyone's favourite Hobbit.Smile




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Valinor


Aug 8 2014, 2:50pm

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Still partnering CB of course:



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Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 8 2014, 8:14pm

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     Good points - and there's this OLD blurb [In reply to]  

Not humoring you at all! I just hadn't snapped into thinking about what Thranduil is DOING in Dale - but how Thranduil enters this fray is one of the things I am MOST curious about. Because 1) His son and Tauriel are both missing, and weren't supposed to be and 2) Does Thranduil just get mad re them missing, take a look out his door, and know something is terribly wrong? Will he simply intuit that? Or will Legolas inform him? Details, details.....Shocked

Can you talk about the dynamic a bit between your character and his father, and how much of that do we actually get to see?

BLOOM: I can, somewhat reluctantly, because I think it’s more interesting for people to see it. And when I say to you there is a certain rivalry– A prince versus a king, a father versus a son, there’s definitely a bit of father-son rivalry, prince-king rivalry that forwards the story, I don’t really want to elaborate on it more than that, but it makes for a more interesting dynamic. Thranduil being the king of the Woodland Realm and, as I’ve said, those Elves being more of a militant group of Elves. Knowing that Legolas goes on to be a bridge, like an architect for peace between the Elves and the rest of the world, you might be able to guess there might be a little bit of me trying to understand more of what the plight of the rest of the world is and therefore somewhat coming up against odds with my father. Does that help?

Read more at http://collider.com/orlando-bloom-the-hobbit-desolation-of-smaug-interview/2/#hW0O9Lu10XzJRGaA.99


Hmmm - but this is from LAST YEAR and who knows what PJ is gonna do. Far as I know only Thranduil could permit the elves to help the Laketowners. Anyway, I wouldn't call these dynamics a RIVALRY. And I also remember some article where it's Thranduil who eventually sends his son into the world - think that was an LP article.

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So of that high-and-mighty i-dont-lift-my-pinky-talk-to-the-tangled-mane act usually goes some way in that.


But we LIKE that....*grins*

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He might personally direct a Black Ops making a run for them Gems though. I'd like to see that Heart


Well, yes, I KNOW Thranduil gets to Erebor. I'm salivating over the idea of Thranduil getting to Erebor FIRST tho and HE is the one that makes the rude discovery that my hairy guys are still, in fact, very much aliveCool. Possibly livened up with some choice remarks and an arrow from my belovedHeart, who is none too happy to see the pristine perfect visage of the moonlight silver Elven King. And POSSIBLY this is what sets Thorin off to decorating himself in kingly gear, as a sort of simultaneous claim stake and up-yours. So when the rest of the uninvited rabble leeches greasy peasants Laketowners show up, they are greeted w. a firmly imbedded King Beneath the Mountain, crowned and everything. As you say, it's all about PRESENTATION and Thorin isn't gonna "greet" the golddiggers looters losers Laketowners in some tatty bathrobe-thing.


"If this is to end in fire, then we will all burn together" - Thorin, The Desolation of Smaug.

Thorinitis: Just that smokey barbecue sizzle on a bed of hot embers on a chill autumn night voice making you do things.




Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 8 2014, 9:04pm

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     Thranduil related theory about Bard and Mirkwood army in the teaser [In reply to]  

My aunt and I were discussing the teaser trailer and I now have a theory about what was really happening in the scene where Bard walks up to the army from Mirkwood and the elves turn in unison.

I've seen some people both on the message boards and elsewhere seeming to think that this scene means that Bard is in charge of a part of the Mirkwood army, but I've disagreed with this from the beginning. For one thing, when Bard first approaches the army and the camera is behind him (first link), you can see other Lake-town refugees off to the right of the scene looking amazed and curious, as if the army has just arrived. Then when the camera switches to be in front of Bard, IMO the expression on his face is just as amazed as the other Lake-towners. If he had already met with Thranduil and seen the army, I would think he'd have a more matter-of-fact, "Ok you're here, lets get down to business" expression on his face.

Secondly, when the elves turn in unison, Bard stops himself mid-stride, and his eyes dart around as if he's startled and wasn't expecting them to do that. Also, the elves turn sideways to face each other, which would be an odd way to turn, IMO, if they were simply acknowledging/saluting him. And, comparing the two pictures, you can see that the elves have turned so that they are parted right down the middle: five rows on one side of the part and five rows on the other side. (There's a tree in the way of the left side of the first pic, but you can still count five rows of elves from the center of the army).

To me, all of this raises the question of why did the elves turn so that their army is parted down the middle like that? Well, that's where the theory that my aunt and I came up with comes in: I think the army is either making a path for Bard to walk down to meet Thranduil, or they are making a path for Thranduil to walk up to meet Bard. Since Thranduil is the Elvenking and Bard doesn't seem to know what's going on, I would say the later is more likely. After all, it fits Thranduil's style that his arrival in Dale with his army would have an element of pomp and circumstance. Cool

So, what do my fellow Thralls think? Is this scene simply the entrance of Thranduil into Dale?

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Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 8 2014, 9:47pm

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Those were some really good videos! (translation: LP's so ridiculously cute! Aaaaaah!LaughLaugh) I don't think I've seen any of them before.

I really like that LP and CB were walking and doing their press interviews together during SDCC. There's no indication whether or not Thranduil and Galadriel will ever be on screen together, so I'll take what I can get!Wink I don't think their characters would get along that well, but their RL counterparts go together very well, IMO.

In that first video, I love how friendly they all are with the reporter (not unusual for the Hobbit cast, but stillSmile) and I especially think it's nice that Luke Evans remembered her even though he probably does dozens of interviews every few months. I have to give BC a little love too for the cute moment at 3:10 when the reporter asks when they last cried during a movie, if boys even cry at movies and BC gives her this silly look and says, "Uh, yeah-huh! We too have emotions!" Lol!

The second CB and LP video: I'm glad they could understand what the reporter was saying, because I sure couldn't!Tongue

Ah, very, very nice piccies! I love the "Elven royalty reality vs. expectation". Rofl!LaughHeart To all the LP-only pics: HeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeart Can't...stop...smiling!LaughHeartEvilSmileCoolWink

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With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
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Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 8 2014, 9:48pm

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     Twinsies! [In reply to]  

Wink

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
~"Dreamer" by Bethany Dillon



Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 8 2014, 10:06pm

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LP said in that video he just met CB early that day, so that's confirmation that they didn't get to work together and won't be on screen together in TH. That's what I get for replying without watching all of the videos first.Tongue

Also, Heartthat adorkable blushBlush when he says meeting CB was the highlight of his experience!


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That female reporter is made of stronger stuff than I, because I think I would have mentally blacked out if LP had asked me what costume I thought would suit him!BlushBlushBlushBlush She handled it quite well, IMO.Smile

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
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Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 8 2014, 10:49pm

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I don't think we could see the elf in the background in the original pic could we? Although it's blurry, IMO it looks a little like one of the female elves from the background of the Thrandy/Gandalf pic. It looks like she's holding a weapon up in front of her, so I guess this is during the battle? Soooo, maybe Thranduil is looking at something dramatic going down and the elves are getting ready to go attack or something?

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
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Eruvandi
Tol Eressea


Aug 8 2014, 11:00pm

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*gets hypnotized by gifs for a second* What was I saying? Oh yeah...In the walking through the carnage gif there's this really big thing behind Thranduil that looks like a big metal mushroom! Whaaaaaa?Crazy I guess it could be a lamp of some kind, but it's awfully big.Crazy

"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,

I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
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Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 8 2014, 11:17pm

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     Oooh - sad! It's the broken carousel! [In reply to]  

Nice spotting Eruvandi! - Hadn't thought about the image - but in the Art book for DOS - not the C & D book - they talk about being inspired by an image from Russia of all the war devastation around a statue of happy children playing, and what an evocative image it is. And they wanted to bring that into Dale, with the lovely carousel, and how (I love this) that Dale is frozen in time like Pompeii, that no-one has been there until the dwarves come through, and how they were going to use the now-broken carousel showing the heartbreak of this once lovely and prosperous and happy Dale. (I love carousels so this hits me hard.)

*Chills*.

And then to see Thranduil walk past *more chills*.

BTW that is a great .gif link!


Avandel
Half-elven


Aug 8 2014, 11:33pm

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In that, Thranduil wouldn't walk TO anyoneCool. You walk TO him, and while I guess it might be polite to make a path for Bard, I also took it as an unspoken threat - the flawless synchronous turn, the thud of the bows. E.g., for any visitor, to try to attack or threaten Thranduil is a very bad mistake. Somehow this sounds like Thranduil.

But I am glad you posted, because I thought what a lot of folks thought, that this was Bard's army, which to me even if he shot down a dragon, didn't ring true with me. I just couldn't imagine Thranduil handing over a huge army to Bard, just like that. And I think as a king, and and an experienced warrior, Thranduil for the most part is going to want to be in charge of his elves.

But now you have my mind racing, because this makes so much more sense to me. The simple-living Bard thrown into a leadership position, and now this Elven High King has arrived and wants to talk to the de facto leader of Laketown (and probably already knows that Bard took down Smaug). I think this will play into what seems to be an "everyman" hero theme that is going on (based on Bard's pleading expression with Thorin, e.g. there's a guy who REALLY doesn't want to go war, at all). And Thranduil I think may not want to go to war either,
but in the end will be ruthless if he has to be.

LOL, I'm sorry to be evil, but until the orcs show up this seems to be shaping into one of the most reluctant wars in the history of cinema as PJ depicts itWink. Except for my beloved Thorin, who while if anyone asked him probably doesn't want to go to war, but is too far gone to have anything but an up-yours attitude. Cool

Nice observations Eruvandi! Especially re the facial expressions.


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by the Valar, I am glad I was sitting....HeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeart


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Aug 9 2014, 1:09am

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     Awww, that is sad [In reply to]  

good catch to both of you. I wonder how much of Dale we'll see in the DOS EE - gives me the same kind of vibe as the west end guard room. Unsure

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Aug 9 2014, 1:37am

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Nice observation! and agree! Heart


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Not humoring you at all!

Wrong choice of phrase... I forget to put on the self-deprecation filter sometimes and just grab the first thing that pops up. I mean indulge. Smile

Re that blurb: I got to admit I didn't like the connotations of that when I read it. As in what? Is Leggy going to try federated state/autonomous region thing with daddy?



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but this is from LAST YEAR and who knows what PJ is gonna do. Far as I know only Thranduil could permit the elves to help the Laketowners. Anyway, I wouldn't call these dynamics a RIVALRY. And I also remember some article where it's Thranduil who eventually sends his son into the world - think that was an LP article.

Much prefer and think this is more apt. Exactly, rivalry? Gotta admit, the thoughts of a love triangle re Tauriel (hadn't known about her role at that point) and the royal duo ran through my mind, which was just ewwww for all practical reasons and intent where I was concerned. So glad it's not that. Though OB's words still remain intriguing. Strange!



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I'm salivating over the idea of Thranduil getting to Erebor FIRST tho and HE is the one that makes the rude discovery that my hairy guys are still, in fact, very much aliveCool. Possibly livened up with some choice remarks and an arrow from my belovedHeart, who is none too happy to see the pristine perfect visage of the moonlight silver Elven King. And POSSIBLY this is what sets Thorin off to decorating himself in kingly gear, as a sort of simultaneous claim stake and up-yours. So when the rest of the uninvited rabble leeches greasy peasants Laketowners show up, they are greeted w. a firmly imbedded King Beneath the Mountain, crowned and everything. As you say, it's all about PRESENTATION and Thorin isn't gonna "greet" the golddiggers looters losers Laketowners in some tatty bathrobe-thing.

Oooh... this! Heart LoL re Thorin's acute insecurities and gear-envyTongue





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Aug 9 2014, 1:52am

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     Yay Eruvandi's back! And agreed! No Elven phalanx at Bard's command [In reply to]  

Nice post!!!

Very good anaylsis.

And I'm with you. I don't get why the general assumption is Bard commands the phalanx or indeed salute for Bard. What he did may be a feat but hey these are Mirkwood's finest here. They LIVE and die by the bow, successfully, and for far longer than Bard could ever do.



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To me, all of this raises the question of why did the elves turn so that their army is parted down the middle like that? Well, that's where the theory that my aunt and I came up with comes in: I think the army is either making a path for Bard to walk down to meet Thranduil, or they are making a path for Thranduil to walk up to meet Bard. Since Thranduil is the Elvenking and Bard doesn't seem to know what's going on, I would say the later is more likely. After all, it fits Thranduil's style that his arrival in Dale with his army would have an element of pomp and circumstance. Cool

Surely Bard walking to meet Thranduil. Thranduil wouldn't stoop to being the one to walk to Bard.AngelicHeart




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Aug 9 2014, 1:55am

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     Definitely! [In reply to]  

All that, Avandel. And hey, surprise surprise we're in agreement Tongue



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LOL, I'm sorry to be evil, but until the orcs show up this seems to be shaping into one of the most reluctant wars in the history of cinema as PJ depicts itWink. Except for my beloved Thorin, who while if anyone asked him probably doesn't want to go to war, but is too far gone to have anything but an up-yours attitude. Cool

Well, it was truly a reluctant war, at least on Thranduil's part, until the orcs crashed the party.

Thorin's all just about what new crown he can dig up from the hoard at this point to go with his new rags.Tongue



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     Glad to be purveying LP Pretty so well [In reply to]  

heheh... I can't stand him honestly Heart



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Rofl!LaughHeart To all the LP-only pics: HeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeart Can't...stop...smiling!LaughHeartEvilSmileCoolWink

There's a bit more. i just.got.to.review.and.post. Evil




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Tongue


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Aug 9 2014, 2:01am

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Also, Heartthat adorkable blushBlush when he says meeting CB was the highlight of his experience!

Heart

I think it was a great idea to partner these two. Though it is a pity they didn't meet until that day. But well, at least we know now PJ's not messing with the dynamics of that particular relationship.



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That female reporter is made of stronger stuff than I, because I think I would have mentally blacked out if LP had asked me what costume I thought would suit him!BlushBlushBlushBlush She handled it quite well, IMO.Smile

Agreed! But he does have the physique for a superman costumeHeart I do think if I were in her shoes and my faculties didn't evaporate, I'd say that too. Just that chest rip was worth it Tongue




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Aug 9 2014, 2:02am

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I'm really intrigued by the female Elf in the background. Why's there no guards out front protecting Thranduil? What's he looking at? Oh the mysteries!


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Aug 9 2014, 2:05am

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     Looks like a structure [In reply to]  

A toppled gazebo? Part of some other structure?


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Aug 9 2014, 2:06am

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There's more where that came from... if only I remember which linky is the source.CrazySmile

But this is the BEST one of the lot imo. Just HeartHeartHeart


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Aug 9 2014, 2:10am

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Nice ref, Avandel. Now I just want to see visions of Oropher as Thranduil is walking Unsure


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Aug 9 2014, 2:11am

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It's no laughing matter, but it is a great resonance re the same disaster lying waste to both places.


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Incoming Mod!


Tongue *I shall cease and desist now*


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Aug 9 2014, 2:27am

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     Who, me? [In reply to]  

Angelic

Good heavens, this is too many pages away from the front, anyway!

Okay, Thralls, time to start...Number Nine! (*cue the Beatles*)


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