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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Feb 3 2008, 10:05pm
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Oh, my sister from another mother!
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DS never gave me nightmares. Hokey as it was, it was awfully erotic, all that neck-biting and all those angsty young men. I didn't know about fanfic back then, and I never wrote any, but I sure made up some story lines in my head.
I remember so clearly the day Tolkien died. I used my memories in the story I'm writing, and what I describe there is pretty much exactly the way I remember it:
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My mom brought in the paper just as I was lacing up my boots and finishing my coffee. “Oh, look,” she said, as she leafed through it, “JRR Tolkien died yesterday. Isn’t that the author you like?”
To my surprise, the news made my chest ache and my eyes smart. I nodded as she handed me the page. Why did it make me so sad? He was 81, after all, and I didn’t really know him at all.
I read the short article and handed it back. “Thanks, Mom. I’ll clip that later.”
I wandered out into the backyard and sat down beneath the big weeping willow tree, leaning my back against its familiar bark. The sun was just rising, kindling the distant mountains and turning the willow leaves to emerald glass. A meadowlark sang somewhere nearby in the sweet cool air.
I put my head down on my knees and wept, not really knowing why. Some of it was the loss of stories that might have been forthcoming. Tolkien had been working on The Silmarillion for years; now it would never be finished. Some of it was because a favorite author does become a friend, even if the reader never meets him.
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[The rest of this scene is in a recent post on the Fan Art board, along with a description of Nathan meeting Tolkien in Heaven not long afterward. Don't know if you saw it there. ]
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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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"A Chance Meeting at Rivendell" and other stories
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Feb 3 2008, 10:12pm
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My blessed mother took notes for me
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because it was on at 2 and I was in school. (I'd gotten hooked over the sumemr.) No VCRs in 1970! I transcribed the notes into a diary and I still have it. Decades later it was on cable and she taped it for me, and my kids got to laugh over it. My son thought it was such a hoot when the characters from the past somehow got into a time warp and went to the Future: all the way to 1969!
I didn't see the tree fall, but I remember the walls shaking when someone would slam a door. And of course the terrifying rubber bats on strings.
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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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Finding Frodo
Tol Eressea
Feb 3 2008, 10:43pm
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"Shining beech" -- what a beautiful name. Great choice!
Where's Frodo?
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Feb 3 2008, 11:59pm
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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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"A Chance Meeting at Rivendell" and other stories
leleni at hotmail dot com
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MsC
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Feb 4 2008, 1:36am
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Sadly, I don't! look particularily good in green. More of a fuschia girl, I think!
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But in answer to your question, I had an Irish mother and an Italian father's last name. Mom was trying to balance the last name with Kelly I think!
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altariel_triquetra
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Feb 4 2008, 1:41am
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What is in a name? (Your screen name, that is.)
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Altariel is one of my personal favorites in LOTR.
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dernwyn
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Feb 4 2008, 1:55am
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He was a friend, wasn't he - friends touch your heart deeply, influence you, help give a meaning to your life. I'd loved him since the day I saw his signature on the back of that Ballantine paperback: he was talking to me about showing courtesy to a living author by not buying the bootleg paperback. And when I found out he'd died, it created that "hole" you feel when a friend or family member dies.
To sit beneath a tree, amidst the sights and sounds of nature, and mourn him - that just seems so - right! I would glance through the paper at the college library daily, and saw it there, and walked back to my dorm in shock - and sat on my bed and bawled. Like Arwen at the death of Aragorn, neither of us knew how there could be "more than memory" to come!
Off to the Fan Art board - thanks!
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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"
"It struck me last night that you might write a fearfully good romantic drama, with as much of the 'supernatural' as you cared to introduce. Have you ever thought of it?"
-Geoffrey B. Smith, letter to JRR Tolkien, 1915
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Finding Frodo
Tol Eressea
Feb 4 2008, 4:52am
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...is the Quenya form of Galadriel's name. It sounded vaguely familiar, but I had to look it up.
Your name is new to me on the boards too, so I'll add a Welcome to TORn!
Where's Frodo?
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Starling
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Feb 4 2008, 7:39am
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This is such a fantastic thread
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Thanks everyone for contributing to it, and stormcrow20 for starting it. I will have to wait until I have more time, then I can have a good read - so fascinating to find out the stories behind the names, not to mention the rock-a-holics.
Cheers 
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altariel_triquetra
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Feb 4 2008, 7:41am
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Yes, Altariel is Galadriel's Quenya name.
Thank you.. I am so new here that I don't know where else to go but to OFF-TOPIC thread first*smirks*
Maiden Crowned By A Radient Garland and A Keeper of Nenya
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Daughter of Nienna
Grey Havens
Feb 4 2008, 9:43am
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I used "Daughter" in my nick for very similar reasons. First, like you mentionsed, I didn't feel I was quite up the loftiness of Nienna. And second, I feel that I am still learning about life, that growth and wholeness is a life-long journey, there is no "arriving at" since it is filled with continual change, If it wasn't, it wouldn't be growth. I would be suck in a kind of deadened state.
So, the more I thought about it, the more perfect "Daughter" seemed. It feels to me like being in a kind of apprentiship to Nienna... on a continual search for deeper meaning, wisdom, knowledge and growth.
The only reason I considered changing my name with the new boards is because it is so long, it doesn't wrap very well (especially on the old boards). I just like my nick too much to change it, so I didn't.
DoN
**Tribute: Lt. J.G. Robert Sterling, WWII Pilot MIA, by Gramma & DoN**
Art Gallery Revised, Aloha & Mahalo, Websites Directory
Nienna: “ those who hearken to her learn pity, and endurance in hope . . . All those who wait in Mandos cry to her, for she brings strength to the spirit and turns sorrow to wisdom." — Valaquenta
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Daughter of Nienna
Grey Havens
Feb 4 2008, 10:25am
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I will add it to my "books to check out" list. thanks for the tip.
I wasn't at all spiritual untill I got into recovery. I was far too shambased and down-trodden, and so internally beat up that the "me' part of me was mssing. I have since found out that sprituallity is about conection and I was (pre-recovery) not very capable of making any connections to people. to a higher power, and importantly, not to myself either,
The present me is unrecognizable to the old me in ways to numerous to count, all them blessings.
**Tribute: Lt. J.G. Robert Sterling, WWII Pilot MIA, by Gramma & DoN**
Art Gallery Revised, Aloha & Mahalo, Websites Directory
Nienna: “ those who hearken to her learn pity, and endurance in hope . . . All those who wait in Mandos cry to her, for she brings strength to the spirit and turns sorrow to wisdom." — Valaquenta
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Daughter of Nienna
Grey Havens
Feb 4 2008, 10:40am
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lovely visual images created by your descriptions. Thanks for sharing that.
One reason being that they join the sky with the earth with such beauty. . . .
"When Sam awoke, he found that he was lying on some soft bed, but over him gently swayed wide beechen boughs, and through their young leaves sunlight glimmered, green and gold. All the air was full of a sweet mingled scent".
I think one day i will find my own Neldoreth with a grand host of beeches along with hemlocks. The hemlock happens to be my favorite evergreen too. In a forest these 2 magnificent trees compliment each other so well in form and color. Along with niphredil to adorn the valleys it would be the perfect place to dwell the rest of my days.
**Tribute: Lt. J.G. Robert Sterling, WWII Pilot MIA, by Gramma & DoN**
Art Gallery Revised, Aloha & Mahalo, Websites Directory
Nienna: “ those who hearken to her learn pity, and endurance in hope . . . All those who wait in Mandos cry to her, for she brings strength to the spirit and turns sorrow to wisdom." — Valaquenta
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grammaboodawg
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Feb 4 2008, 10:41am
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nickname could also be the measurement of the secret back door of the Lonely Mountain. 5 feet high and wide enough for 3 hobbits to walk abreast (5ft?) ;) I guess that would depend on if one of the hobbits was Bombur ;)
 
Trust him... The Hobbit is coming!
"Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..."
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Feb 4 2008, 11:52am
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Sil, you do take the most wondrous photos of trees! 
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"It struck me last night that you might write a fearfully good romantic drama, with as much of the 'supernatural' as you cared to introduce. Have you ever thought of it?"
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Lunamoth
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Feb 4 2008, 4:32pm
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Many of us here have screen names that are somewhat self-explanatory, and there are many unique nicks as well. Here’s your chance to tell us about your nick. How did you come up with it? Why did you choose it? Does it have a specific meaning? How is it pronounced (if applicable)? Anything else?
Lunamoth is a nick I've used since I used to log into my friend's BBS back in... '93? and the AOL handle I used prior to that, and so on. My middle name is Luna (yes, really) and my best friend liked to tease me and call me "Moth", for the moon moths that we used to see in the summertime back home: Luna Moth
It's been my nick for so long on other forums that I couldn't see creating a new identity just for the Tolkien-related forum. Feels slightly out of place, I guess, not being even remotely Tolkien-referential, but it's me.
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Annael
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Feb 4 2008, 5:30pm
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The present me is unrecognizable to the old me in ways to numerous to count, all them blessings.
I know!
Someone once asked me if people can really change. I told him I think it's more that we are who we are, but then family/events/life cover us up with layers of habits and reactions that are not-us. Counseling and hard work have helped me peel these layers off and get back to who I really am.
I like this quote: "Religion is for those who want to stay out of Hell. Spirituality is for those who have been through hell."
.We do not see things as they are, we see them as we are.
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acheron
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Feb 4 2008, 7:02pm
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I use the same screen name everywhere, so it's not Tolkien-related at all. "Acheron" is the river of woe or sorrow surrounding the underworld in Greek mythology. Souls were ferried across the Acheron to enter the land of the dead. Somehow in modern references this myth often gets confused with the river Styx, but most ancient stories name the Acheron as the border river where you needed to pay Charon, the ferryman. The Styx was the river of hate, also in the underworld, along with a couple other rivers: Lethe (river of forgetfulness or oblivion), Cocytus (lament), and Phlegethon (fire).
I pronounce it 'ACK-uh-ron'. If you were an ancient Greek, you'd probably pronounce the 'ch' (the Greek letter chi) a little breathier than just the /k/ sound (although not quite as much as, say, German 'Bach' or Scottish 'loch'.. I believe chi does sound like that in modern Greek, though). I'm not an ancient Greek though, so I don't worry about it. :)
Centuries later, Dante took some of the Greek underworld myths and added them to his depiction of hell, in the Divine Comedy. He changed some of them around a bit (Cocytus became a frozen lake, for example), but the Acheron story remains about the same, and Charon is there as well. (Although of course in the hell story, pretty much everyone entering is 'bad' in some way, whereas in the Greek stories, everyone went to the same underworld after dying, though there were different 'sections' once you got there.)
Anyway, I thought it sounded cool. If you ever see a car with a Virginia license plate that says ACHERON, that's me. ;)
For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much -- the wheel, New York, wars, and so on -- while all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man, for precisely the same reasons. -- Douglas Adams
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Ettelewen
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Feb 4 2008, 9:52pm
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Wow, I almost missed this great thread!
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I love reading about members' screen names.
Mine is related to my real-life first name, Barbara. In some contexts, "Barbara" means "foreign" or "stranger" (my sister's favorite nickname for me is "Barbarian"  ). I don't remember what elvish-translation site I visited, but "Ettel" is a translation of "foreign", and "wen" is a female suffix.
Hence, Ettelewen.
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7ofEowyn
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Feb 4 2008, 10:48pm
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Anything refering to a celestial body counts, doesn't it? Besides, I thought it was a reference to the moth who saved Gandalf.
Besides check out Magpie & Grammaboodog ... who if memory serves had a whole society following her not-so-Tolkienish name.
Something about G.A.S.? Any "old-timers" that can chime in here?
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MrCere
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Feb 4 2008, 10:50pm
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Young and handsome? HAD to be somebody else! But thanks! 
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Tintallë
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Feb 4 2008, 10:54pm
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I just don't seem to have much to say, so most of the time I'm in lurking mode!
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Daughter of Nienna
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Feb 4 2008, 11:13pm
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I told him I think it's more that we are who we are, but then family/events/life cover us up with layers of habits and reactions that are not-us. Counseling and hard work have helped me peel these layers off and get back to who I really am...
I would add internalized messages. The first 20 years are recorded on an internal tape that gets played back the rest of your life. Messages from various systems: family, school, peer, societal, bureaucratic, etc. All of that gets absorbed into a mini-internal critics committee. Re-parenting and changing those messages has been hardest and most painstaking part of it. I had to learn how to be there for me when not one single solitary person had ever been before. I had to learn how to parent me when I didn't have any clue how to do, despite being a parent in real life. Only knowing abandonment and neglect, that is how I parented my son and myself.
It's been a lot of hard work. Loving analogies as I do: those behavioral and thinking patterns are like grooves in the road that each time you pass over them your tire keeps falling into the same groove. It gets so hard to not fall into the same groove over and over, even after you learn just how much it doesn't work for you and are fully aware of the consequences.
For, me, the great motivator is has been 'pain'. I no longer try to run from it or cover it up. It's burring feelings (denial, repression, suppression, minimal-ising, exaggerating, etc) that causes all the trouble in the first place. When I allow myself to really feel, I can heal and move through. "The only way out is through" (Terry Kellogg). Not doing that kept me stuck on the wrong side of the wall for far too long. But feeling it tells me that I deserve better, that I am valuable and it motivates me to change the patterns and heal.
That line in Star Wars Episode 3 (the last one), Yoda says "grieve not..." don't remember the exact quote, but that line drives me nuts. The thing is that people don't realize is that emotions are "energy in motion" and that feeling the emotions that come with pain and grief do to loss ia a perfectly natural process, innate to being human. And that when you feel them, you move through them and then you are done. Denying the feelings is what leaves you stuck in them and then they tend to control your life through triggers and unhealthy behaviors. There are tons of messages out there everyday, people try to stop other people from feeling their emotions so that they (unconsciously) won't have to feel their own buried feelings. It looks like 'helping' and support. But true helping and support is allowing the person to just simply be in it and feel it so they can move through it and out the other side and just listening, not 'fixing'.
For me, doing the work has consisted of: meetings for Adult Children of Alcoholics (& Dysfunctional Family Systems) ore "ACA", or "ACOA" . . . plus: books, lots of books, audio tapes of speakers, therapy, seminars, sponsoring, working with other people. And most importantly, learning the skill of self-parenting... that one changed my entire life. The books and tapes helped to give me new information and change those old tapes and to learn new kills and tools. Therapy helped to work through the layers of old repressed emotions that kept me keyed into triggers (i.e. "buttons pushed"). The meetings and seminars connected me with other people working through similar issues. This gave me all too important feedback and mirroring and community and support. We simply share experience, strength and hope and through hearing people take on challenges in their life, I get hope courage, and guidance on how to do that for myself. Self-parenting really changed the patterns and the internal messages. For me, it took incorporating a whole variety of tools and resources to make it work.
I blabbered on way too much and gone way off topic. My biggest issue is knowing where the boundaries are for myself. I tend to go over-board a lot as the evidence shows. It just illustrates that it is a life-long journey, but one I would never back-track on. The rewards are too great.
Thanks for your feedback. It's wonderful to find someone else who 'gets' the journey!
**Tribute: Lt. J.G. Robert Sterling, WWII Pilot MIA, by Gramma & DoN**
Art Gallery Revised, Aloha & Mahalo, Websites Directory
Nienna: “ those who hearken to her learn pity, and endurance in hope . . . All those who wait in Mandos cry to her, for she brings strength to the spirit and turns sorrow to wisdom." — Valaquenta
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