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haarp
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Oct 26 2013, 12:04pm
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Who would you have play Legolas?
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I find Orlando Bloom to be quite irritating and a wooden actor. Who would you have play Legolas instead?
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Oct 26 2013, 12:26pm
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Luke Evans 
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Fleuz
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Oct 26 2013, 12:39pm
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and Bloom fills the role quiet well.
If he was told to do more facial expressions I'm sure he would have managed that…
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Oct 26 2013, 12:51pm
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Bloom did a fine job.
And I think 'wooden' sounds a bit negative, in that case I'd prefer to call him an Elvish pinocchio.
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Oct 26 2013, 12:56pm
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actually benedict cabbagepatch would make a perfect elf, he can act aswell
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Pazeer
Rivendell
Oct 26 2013, 1:13pm
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He did a great job in Lord of the Rings, no doubt about it!
He's perfect for an elf.
If I was going to choose someone else... Hmm, perhaps Tom Hiddlestone? He looks about right (except for the hair-color ofc), and he's been great in what I've seen of him so far [:)]
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Glorfindela
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Oct 26 2013, 1:19pm
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Tim Hiddlestone is certainly a better actor than Bloom.
I do think Bloom was OK as part of an ensemble cast in LotR, where he didn't have to do much in terms of acting. He just needed to look pretty, which he did at that time because of the look they gave him. His looks were never to my taste (prefer males to look more masculine, like I wonder if you can guess who), but even my mother said 'Who's that?' in a very interested way when she first saw him on screen in LotR.
He did a great job in Lord of the Rings, no doubt about it!
He's perfect for an elf.
If I was going to choose someone else... Hmm, perhaps Tom Hiddlestone? He looks about right (except for the hair-color ofc), and he's been great in what I've seen of him so far [:)]
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dormouse
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Oct 26 2013, 1:28pm
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You might find him irritating but I don't agree. He's nothing like my image of Legolas when reading the book, but I think he did extremely well in the previous films and it would have been crazy to replace him for The Hobbit.
I would have cast Paul Bettany as Thranduil - I think he's very Elvish. But then, I'd never heard of Lee Pace before they did cast him, and he looks perfect. And I agree with the others that Tom Hiddlestone would make a very good elf - but I don't think I'd see any of them as a Legolas.
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Estel78
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Oct 26 2013, 1:29pm
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Hope your dad wasn't around. ;) //
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Oct 26 2013, 1:35pm
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apart from Sherlock, Benedict Cumberbatch is not a great actor. He has a great voice though that suits Smaug well (yet to hear the necromancer). I thought OB was good for Legolas in LoTR, it didn't require too much acting but I think he did a good job. My favourite scene of his is at the black gate as he rushes towards Aragorn to save him from the troll. 
I simply walked into Mordor.
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Glorfindela
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Oct 26 2013, 1:41pm
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No – he rarely goes to the cinema (or watches TV)
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Oct 26 2013, 1:52pm
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He might not have been the best, since he was always stating the obvious in LOTR with his "They're taking the Hobbits to Isengard!" (why is it I keep wanting to add in that "gard-gar-gar-gar-gard!" at the end?  ) and "Crebain from Dunland!", but he wasn't all that bad.
Ah, Tom Hiddlestone, now he would make a perfect elf in Rivendell! 
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book Gandalf
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Oct 26 2013, 2:25pm
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benedict is a great actor in my opinion, tinker tailer, frankenstein to name a few more of the more obvious works...
he also has a class about him, that bloom could never match, hence why hed make a better elf, or anything he put his acting chops tooo, i think he has an elfin look about him mainly though.
This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party.
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Pazeer
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Oct 26 2013, 2:33pm
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Cumberbatch is one of the best actors today, every role I've seen him in he has been outstanding!
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Ereinion Nénharma
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Oct 26 2013, 2:41pm
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he looks a bit too much ''dark'' to be an elf. But he would make an absolutely perfect Annatar.
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Avandel
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Oct 26 2013, 2:54pm
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A beautiful elf in LOTR without looking TOO effeminate and good as Aragorn's sidekick. Re the DOS Legolas, well, OK, but not if you are going to have mask-like makeup and pull expressions that make you look like Grumpy Cat - sigh.
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sauget.diblosio
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Oct 26 2013, 3:40pm
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I don't find Bloom to be a particularly interesting actor, and am kind of baffled that he has such a devoted following (i guess looks can go a long way, and he also seems like a nice, personable guy in real life). But i think he's just fine as Legolas, and it's hard to imagine taking the character in another direction after all these years. I always thought of it in terms of Legolas being a reletively young elf, and therefore not as dynamic (i.e. interesting) as the older elves Galadriel and Elrond (which are perfect characterisations to my mind-- and they were one of my favorite parts of AUJ). Here's to hoping Legolas doesn't overplay his welcome in DoS and TaBA (and, by extension, Tauriel)!
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Bombadil
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Oct 26 2013, 3:51pm
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Well, Benny C just made the Cover of TIME magazine?///
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Glorfindela
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Oct 26 2013, 3:55pm
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Yes, BC is certainly a good actor, with a great voice
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Personally, I don't find his looks appealing, though, when you take away the personality. I don't think he would appeal to me visually as an Elf. So far, only Thranduil, Galadriel (as in The Hobbit, not LotR) and Elrond work for me as 'Elves'. Others are simply too human looking and/or not beautiful enough. (I know Elrond is not 'beautiful', but then he is Half-Elven, and he does make the character very distinguished. His clothing is always very well done, too.)
benedict is a great actor in my opinion, tinker tailer, frankenstein to name a few more of the more obvious works...
he also has a class about him, that bloom could never match, hence why hed make a better elf, or anything he put his acting chops tooo, i think he has an elfin look about him mainly though.
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Eruvandi
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Oct 26 2013, 4:50pm
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I saw the movies before I read the books so...
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...at this point Orlando Bloom IS Legolas. At least to me anyway. I'm currently reading through the trilogy for the first time and I actually think Legolas got the "short end of the stick" in the movies because they really cut out a lot of his dialog, especially in FOTR. While reading, there were several points where I was surprised at how talkative he was, specifically when they entered Lothlorien. The movies also failed to include, IMO, some of the best "Leggy moments" from the book like in FOTR when he killed the fell beast with one shot in the dark, or in TTT when Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli were trying to rescue Merry and Pipin from the orcs and even when Aragorn and Gimli were so tired they had no choice but to stop and rest, Legolas wanted to keep going and didn't even try to sleep when they did. Instead he chose to stay on watch all night until dawn. I though these moments would have translated very well to the screen and I'm sad they got left out. However, I still enjoy all three LOTR movies as separate works from the books.
As far as Orlando's acting, is he the best actor in the world? No, but he's also not the worst and I think he did a fair enough job portraying Legolas in LOTR even despite the odd facial expressions in the background. I don't like it when a well known series of movies replaces one actor with another, especially when it's a main character as IMO it cheapens the franchise and makes the filmmakers look a bit lazy.
I'm actually terrible at trying to think of actors who would be better in a role that someone else is already known for. I could talk all day about actors who wouldn't been right for the role of Legolas, but I think Orlando is the best Legolas we're going to get for the time being and I wouldn't want to replace him.
My favorite speech from the entire LOTR series: Sam:“It’s like in the great stories Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were, and sometimes you didn’t want to know the end, because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was after so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come and when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those are the stories that stayed with you, that meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand, I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances at turning back, only they didn’t. They kept going because they were holding on to something.” Frodo: “What are we holding on to, Sam?” Sam: “That there’s some good in this world, Mr. Frodo, and it’s worth fighting for!”
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book Gandalf
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Oct 26 2013, 5:42pm
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ha, i think well have to agree to disagree it seems!
ill just add that i think the elves never really worked for me, in regards to look and character based on the books, they work in there own right for the films but i want my elves to be less pretty, less human, more ethereal more alien! all i see are humans with long hair and nice clothes. i would have loved to see del toros version of an elf! i just think peter jackson is better at orcs and creatures than elves.
This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party.
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Elskidor
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Oct 26 2013, 6:31pm
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Bloom never bothered me in LoTR, and hopefully he won't in the Hobbit either. It is just everything else he has done that I have not cared for. He's not that great of an actor, but luckily for him, Legolas doesn't really do a lot to require a skilled actor.
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Oct 26 2013, 7:07pm
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I can see Tom Huddleston playing sauron rather than an elf. His portrayal of Loki is one in which, to me, bears great resemblance to the fair sauron of the first and second age
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dubulous
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Oct 26 2013, 9:06pm
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At this point it's hard to imagine anyone else in the role. Maybe Ben Barnes if LotR was being cast now (because he would probably have been too young ten years ago)
I don't think either Hiddleston or Cumberbatch are actually beautiful enough to be elves (though, granted, neither is Hugo Weaving and he still somehow pulls it off). I could see Hiddleston as Turin Turambar, though, in a hypothetical Silmarillion movie.
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Salmacis81
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Oct 26 2013, 9:25pm
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I don't like it when a well known series of movies replaces one actor with another, especially when it's a main character as IMO it cheapens the franchise and makes the filmmakers look a bit lazy.
Even though I also knew the films before the books, I still don't picture Legolas looking like the actor who played him when I read the books. Same goes for just about all of the Hobbits from LotR (all except Sir Ian Holm, who I think was perfect for Old Bilbo).
Anyway, Orlando Bloom is no Sir Ian McKellen or Tom Hanks as far as acting chops go, but he isn't bad either. And at this point, Bloom IS "film Legolas", and it would have been very jarring to have another actor portray him in The Hobbit.
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Glorfindela
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Oct 26 2013, 10:11pm
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Well, I agree with you for the most part
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I did say I found the film Elves not beautiful enough, but I do think Thranduil so far looks ethereal and Elf-like – by far the most Elf-like of all the film Elves. To me Elves should look inhuman and kind of androgynous – but they should always be beautiful, like the Glorfindel of my imagination.
'Figwit' of the film, for example, just looks like a gormless youth, Legolas in the trilogy was made to look like a young boy, 'Tauriel' looks like a heavily made up woman dressed in Robin Hood-type clothing, etc. Very far from what I had in my imagination – but Thranduil isn't.
ha, i think well have to agree to disagree it seems!
ill just add that i think the elves never really worked for me, in regards to look and character based on the books, they work in there own right for the films but i want my elves to be less pretty, less human, more ethereal more alien! all i see are humans with long hair and nice clothes. i would have loved to see del toros version of an elf! i just think peter jackson is better at orcs and creatures than elves.
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Glorfindela
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Oct 26 2013, 10:20pm
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The Hobbits from LotR look nothing like how I imagined them, but (younger) Bilbo was absolutely perfect (although what they did with him in RotK wasn't).
In fact, of all the characters in LotR, only Gandalf looked like the character in my imagination.
The Ringwraiths in FotR (though not the ones shown in TTT and RotK) were brilliantly realised, I thought, although I can't remember how I imagined them before I saw the films.
Same goes for just about all of the Hobbits from LotR (all except Sir Ian Holm, who I think was perfect for Old Bilbo).
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Oct 26 2013, 11:30pm
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I wouldn't say the most elf-like
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I think Cate Blanchett as Galadriel has that etheral elf quality down even more so than Thranduil. In fact, she doesn't even need the costume to look like how I would imagine an elf to be like. She has that very rare combination of unique features, flawless complexion, deep voice, and a way of carrying herself that sets her apart from, well, mere mortals. There is something very other-wordly about her.
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Oct 26 2013, 11:42pm
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Any half decent in shape young male actor.
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I think pretty much any athletic, handsome young male actor would do the job, so long as they are half decent - that is all Orlando is, im sure he would admit it himself. I think his limited range didn't effect the role of legolas and is one of my least favourite book characters so i didn't mind personally.
I think some of the people saying i can't imagine anyone but Orlando - i think if we had another actor e.g that tom guy, they would be saying Orlando looks good but he just isn't Legolas to me, lol, it's just what we get to know.
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MouthofSauron
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Oct 26 2013, 11:53pm
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i don't find the actor irritating..
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i find the fact that he is going to clearly look 10 years older in these prequels than he will in the sequels...its not a matter of making his face look younger with CGI, its that he was too young in LOTR's.
take me down to the woodland realm where the trees are green and the elf women are pretty....Oh will you please take me home!!
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Oct 26 2013, 11:56pm
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Justin Beiber.
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Ziggy Stardust
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Oct 27 2013, 2:11am
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I thought Orlando Bloom played a good Legolas. I pictured him differently in the novel as being more ethereal (and this is coming from someone who saw the films first.) Otherwise I thought he did well, and apparently he really liked the character. Sometimes that makes a difference.
Wooden is a little too negative, of course I only say that because I tend to use that word for Kristen Stewart. Orlando Bloom is a much better actor than Stewart, who I think is wooden.
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Oct 27 2013, 2:15am
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Though I liked Legolas, the rest you say is spot on to me. Elves should be beautiful, and they should look inhuman as they are not human. Glorfindel looks that way in my mind too, inhuman, kind of androgynous, but beautiful.
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Glorfindela
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Oct 27 2013, 11:48am
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He wasn't that young in LotR, you know
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I believe he is 36 (nearly 37?) now, so he would have been in his mid-twenties at the time the LotR films were produced.
i find the fact that he is going to clearly look 10 years older in these prequels than he will in the sequels...its not a matter of making his face look younger with CGI, its that he was too young in LOTR's.
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Glorfindela
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Oct 27 2013, 12:01pm
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However, I did not find her very 'Elf-like' in LotR. Perhaps her 'green phase' influenced me somewhat, because I found that was very badly done. She was made to look more delicate in AUJ – maybe her face has slimmed down with age? I think her look as Galadriel has a lot to do with her make-up (very well done in her case, unlike in that of T), the Russian's beautiful hair, the costumes and the way she plays the part, because when you see her without all this, she just looks like an ordinary woman. I do find Thranduil (so far) to be the most 'Elf-like' of the Elves, and the only one to have that ethereal quality I associate with Elves in my mind.
I think Cate Blanchett as Galadriel has that etheral elf quality down even more so than Thranduil. In fact, she doesn't even need the costume to look like how I would imagine an elf to be like. She has that very rare combination of unique features, flawless complexion, deep voice, and a way of carrying herself that sets her apart from, well, mere mortals. There is something very other-wordly about her.
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Oct 27 2013, 12:21pm
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Minus 12 to get to 2001 and he was 24, minus a year or so more as that was when they were filming - 22/23 - that's young.
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Glorfindela
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Oct 27 2013, 1:04pm
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I think that was probably OK, though, for the part of Legolas
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I wouldn't have expected Legolas to look older, or to be played by an older actor. Had been played by a 16-year-old, I would have said that was young for the part.
After all, Elijah Wood was only 19 when the filming of LotR started.
Minus 12 to get to 2001 and he was 24, minus a year or so more as that was when they were filming - 22/23 - that's young.
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Oct 27 2013, 2:14pm
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I wouldn't have minded a little older. I don't personally think people look old or aged etc in their 30's so anywhere from his age (as a miminum - in general, obviously some people who are older can look younger) up to mid 30's for me. I still think he looks elvish now - not like he looks old, just older than before.
Frodo for me was a little young looking but then he looks almost the same now 12 years on so i dunno!
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MouthofSauron
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Oct 27 2013, 5:26pm
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well he clearly looks 10 years older
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its not that he is old like Ian Holm in AUJ its that his "baby face" has gone away.
take me down to the woodland realm where the trees are green and the elf women are pretty....Oh will you please take me home!!
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Oct 27 2013, 9:53pm
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He's got great acting chops for both drama and light comedy, a really nice voice, and if he isn't the epitome of elvish beauty (sans facial hair), I don't know who is!
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