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nhui06
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Jul 31 2013, 3:23pm
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Yeah 13 minutes seem a bit short, but I have a feeling (as seem here have already mentioned), that they tried to stretch AUJ when they announced 3 films, so there were probably a few previously planned deleted scenes already added to the theatrical version. Also, I remember from the LOTR docs that quite a few of the scenes they did in the pick ups were added to the extended version, so maybe DOS and TABA will have a longer EE. None the less, we LOTR/Hobbit fans are spoiled, as most movies only have 2-3 minutes extra deleted scenes, and here we are sad about 13?
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sycorax82
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Jul 31 2013, 3:24pm
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AUJ we basically had the EE in cinemas
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Remember, AUJ was originally going right up to the barrels. This is why there's not much left to show for the actual EE. I don't think there's gonna be any surprises, but PJ may well have done slightly different edits on existing scenes, which would be welcome.
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Skaan
Lorien
Jul 31 2013, 3:31pm
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There is most likely going to be some kind of trilogy box with all 3 extended editions inside them, similar to this one. Who knows, maybe they will add extra commentary tracks on that aswell? Although this isn't a reason why you should buy the AUJ EE, it may give you hope for the future.
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TheHutt
Gondor
Jul 31 2013, 4:19pm
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...would never remaster preexisting discs. So a trilogy box would be just a repack, as always.
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Lusitano
Tol Eressea
Jul 31 2013, 4:23pm
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Strictly speaking for the length of the new footage
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13 minutes is disappointing. Didnt jackson say between 20-30 minutes to harry knowles? A few days ago i was saying to myself i better find out whats in the extended version before i actually buy it....no love case this time round so... And now this comes... I dont know if its even worth my money... 13 minutes sounds more like a few cut scenes from the deleted scenes menu shoved in the movie than a real Extended Cut , such as LOTR s or Kingdom of Heavens which gave them a new life and feel and at least to me, stand out as different films. Market scene, arrow and gems in the prologue, young bilbo, dwarves doing gymnastics and annoying the elves, bofur singing, bilbo finding narsil and this little scene with elrond, goblin king singing, more goblin town toilet humour or action? Meh, was expecting more than this. Did we get a complete list of the new scenes before the Lotr extended editions were available?
Vous commencez à m'ennuyer avec le port!!!
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Pousette
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Jul 31 2013, 4:59pm
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I have to agree with you. The conditions were GREAT, I mean - with Martin Freeman as the hobbit (Armitage, Stott, probably Cumberbatch and pretty much everyone else), and a Weta which has continued to flourish and thrive for the ten years since RotK. Sooooo so so so sad to see WB (we have to blame them in the end, I honestly don't think even PJ has a lot to say these days) completely misunderstand this world, the established brand, and Tolkien fandom in general. PJ, Fran and Phil might have something to do with the dwarven slapstick, and definitely with the overload of computer enhanced fighting scenes, but still I'd bet WB is to blame for the overall shallow feeling of the theatrical cut.
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Nira
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Jul 31 2013, 4:59pm
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I really wanted some kind of cast commentary :(
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Maybe he was confusing audio commentary with interview-type commentary for the documentary sections?
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Lusitano
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Jul 31 2013, 5:08pm
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"Chapters include: Azog the Defiler " His very own doc/featurette! Cant wait to hear the writers explain why tolkiens writing was ditched in favour of this Middle Earth version of an 80's Shwarzenegger. I 'll be back , Thorin son of Thrain. Next, well see him in LA at the walk of fame. ARRGHN!
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Shagrat
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Jul 31 2013, 5:12pm
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I suspect it will be that featurette on the Azog effects process that came out around February. There were ones on other CGI characters also.
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QuackingTroll
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Jul 31 2013, 5:16pm
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Only thing that disappoints me is that it's downloadable two weeks before the blu-ray release
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But I guess that means we'll know whether it's worth buying or not, two weeks in advance.
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Pipe Dream
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Jul 31 2013, 5:19pm
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I think you nailed it on the head.
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It's probably shorter because they moved the stuff with Thrain and Gandalf to DoS, I think. The rest of the "extended footage" made it's way onto TDOS to comprise a third movie. I'm okay with it now that I'm over the initial shock of so short of an extension. I love the new Bilbo/Elrond scene, but now that's one less minute of new we get to experience.
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Lusitano
Tol Eressea
Jul 31 2013, 5:21pm
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could be, but i would love to hear the writers discuss him
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When azog shows up i react like this at 128 minutes : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8AJdfzCw3U
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Bombadil
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Jul 31 2013, 5:48pm
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Shagrat...Agreed, Bomby used to shoot TV NEWS
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and a LOT gets covered in 13 minutes in any News Cast... Mostly it has to have a real Flow... w/Howard's Music. IT a surprise since we were expecting 23 minutes? BUT,Bomby is gunna go with THIS! Currently 13 minutes but MAYBE? some of what they just shot is Short Pick-ups from AUJ, TOO! Don't be TOO surprized if the reporting on this becomes OUT-OF-Date in the Next 3 Months. PJ is ALWAYS Tweaking up to Last minute... ...It's his style to add, until the print is send to Disc-makers around the World in October. Also, any Reporter often gets it Wrong since, Bomby witnessed this way too many times.. First Hand. Do you Believe Everything you read?, Don't...
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Olorin2607
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Jul 31 2013, 5:55pm
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I think that is really just wishful thinking. It will be 13 minutes. But I really am happy it is not more. As it means less opportunity to cram in crappy scenes. Although the Bilbo/Elrond Scene is nice, the new goblin kIng things could very well be utter trash.
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Shagrat
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Jul 31 2013, 6:01pm
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Unfortunately it can't be any longer
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Since the MPAA have already seen and rated the extended version. They'd have to re-submit it otherwise, and I can't see that happening.
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FrodoEyes
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Jul 31 2013, 6:24pm
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That the film that we saw was near enough an extended edition anyway, especially after the change from 2 to 3 movies
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Estel78
Tol Eressea
Jul 31 2013, 6:53pm
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Only 13 minutes... Dunno what happened to the other 10 minutes... Such a bummer...
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hutch
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Jul 31 2013, 7:51pm
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To what? A franchise that's much more guaranteed to be successful than the completely untested ground that was LOTR. I don't buy an 'adapt' argument at all. You see the way people throw $$$ at movies these days? Every week a new box office record is set.
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hutch
Rohan
Jul 31 2013, 7:57pm
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Anyone in a given field of filmmaking would enjoy having a commentary aimed closer to their interests. Sad to say, but this time around I'm least interested in what PJ and PB have to say because they've had the most talking time thus far and I'm kinda still mad that they've yet to acknowledge the changes in ROTK regarding Gandalf vs WiKi. They talked about every little change elsewhere, but when it came to that...*crickets* I dunno. If they were gonna choose one commentary I would think a cast one would be the most fun.
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hutch
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Jul 31 2013, 7:59pm
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then again you're probably right
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Yeah. Now that I think about it (3 seconds later) the numbers are probably small for that kind of thing. However I don't see a need to change the precedence set.
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hutch
Rohan
Jul 31 2013, 8:08pm
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but the shooting for this movie seems to be eclipsing that of LOTR, so how come we're getting shorter films? I mean, it's obvious there's less "material" to work with (not so if they had shot 'the Hunt for Gollum' *hint, hint*) but it borders on lunacy to me that shorter films require more shooting days than the original trilogy.
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There&ThereAgain
Rohan
Jul 31 2013, 8:19pm
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Wasn't the King Kong shoot longer than the LOTR shoot?
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Also I think scheduling-wise The Hobbit has been much more convoluted.
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Bombadil
Half-elven
Jul 31 2013, 8:39pm
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Since, the British, Scottish, Irish, Aussie ones are already back Home and probably on other projects? So, maybe Dean (Fili) Graham (Dwalin), etc. could still do Cast Commentary once the FinalCUT is in the Can. It would probably be expensive unless they Skype it in?
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