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PETER JACKSON AND NEW LINE CINEMA JOIN WITH MGM TO PRODUCE “THE HOBBIT”
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Penny
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Dec 18 2007, 8:49pm

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So true.... [In reply to] Can't Post

but you might want to send up a little prayer of thanks that you didn't have to suffer through Tom Cruise as Aragorn

Oh DEAR GOD, you are sooooooooooo right!! I am wondering who will play Bilbo now tho? I dont suppose it will be Ian with a facelift and dyed hair? Tongue



Diezmann
The Shire

Dec 18 2007, 8:50pm

Post #127 of 273 (19071 views)
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the HOBBIT must have PJ as the helmer [In reply to] Can't Post

I still cannot believe, why they don't said that PJ go to helm the HOBBIT. Are they crazy? I will go crazy with it. Please, let PJ do IT!!!

Ich stehe hier und kann nicht anders


Will
The Shire


Dec 18 2007, 8:55pm

Post #128 of 273 (16805 views)
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Well [In reply to] Can't Post

What news :)

I'm glad PJ is onboard producing, and even if we don't have a director as yet; i'm convinced PJ and co will find a suitable choice.

At this stage, it is hard to tell exactly what role PJ will have as a producer, i.e. how much involvement he will have, but i'm sure PJ will want an active involvement with the project; ensuring it retains a degree of continuity with the previous films, at least design wise.

A new director on board may bring an interesting visual style to the piece, but i doubt he/she will want to stray too far from the established style of PJ's LOTR movies; in both the interests of continuity, but also to please fans (well most of us).

I can't wait to hear what added developments will spring up around the project, but i think it is safe to say one thing.

Bring on 2010! Smile

"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring


N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Dec 18 2007, 8:55pm

Post #129 of 273 (17475 views)
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Boyens... [In reply to] Can't Post

says at least once that some part of the films (Boromir's death, I think) improves on the books -- at least, so I read on these boards, not having listened to the commentaries. So while I would agree that the filmmakers did not generally disregard Tolkien's work because they thought they could do better, they may have occasionally thought so. But then, almost no one who frequents these boards, even the stauchest Reading Room contributor, feels that there are no flawed passages in Tolkien's book (or in any long, great work).

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mythmaster
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Dec 18 2007, 8:58pm

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PJ's Back... [In reply to] Can't Post

While I am DEEPLY dismayed that Peter Jackson is involved in the production of a Hobbit film, at least he is not "directing". Hopefully, he will enlist a truly great director (Peter Weir was a superb idea bandied about a few months ago) and not assign this to one of his WETA people.

Loooooong sigh...why couldn't they just leave the book alone????

....oh yeah - the money!!!


N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Dec 18 2007, 9:00pm

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Why? [In reply to] Can't Post

What about 30 Days of Night bodes well for The Hobbit? What about Army of Darkness bodes ill? (Isn't that one partly a period piece, unlike Raimi's other work, and thus at least set semi-appropriately for The Hobbit?) Since Jackson & co. borrowed one of Gollum's best-known scenes from Raimi's presentation of Willem Defoe's character, why do you feel that Spider-Man spells trouble?

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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 18 2007, 9:01pm

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Diezmann
The Shire

Dec 18 2007, 9:06pm

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IS THERE ANY HOPE, GANDALF, FOR PETER JACKSON? [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Lith
The Shire


Dec 18 2007, 9:06pm

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Alright! :-) [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes, yes, yes yes yes!!!!!! *jumps up and down*

What a relief! Finally something official (even if it's not exactly what many of us wanted)! Still, I feel like I can sit back now and just enjoy the wild ride we are sure to have for the next few years. And it will be so satisfying to go post another announcement in the header on the Petition. Evil


N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Dec 18 2007, 9:16pm

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Are you posting in "flat" or "threaded" mode? [In reply to] Can't Post

Your posts seem not to be responses to the comments to which they appear in reply. If you use "threaded" mode, it's easier to follow the course of conversation in a large discussion like this.

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dernwyn
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Dec 18 2007, 9:16pm

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LOL! [In reply to] Can't Post

NEB, what would we do without folks like you, giving us the benefit of your well-spoken opposing view? Wink

No, no, I meant the trollish types! Tongue

*hands NEB anti-neekerbreeker spray*


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Will
The Shire


Dec 18 2007, 9:20pm

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i apologise if my post was not in direct reply also, i just felt like expressing my views on this new development.

However regarding book to film translation, i believe the films followed the books as well as they could do, whilst fufilling the requirments of a sucessful film narrative.

I guess there is more to say on it, but if i went into more discussion it would probably take up a page or so lol.

"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring


Lily Fairbairn
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Dec 18 2007, 9:21pm

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This is true [In reply to] Can't Post

And, to be honest, I think there are a few spots where the film does improve on the books -- by showing us Boromir's death and the attack on Isengard, for example, rather than having these scenes happen off stage. But I don't think PJ, Boyens, and Walsh's motive was to improve on the books because they disliked the books and intended to insult either Tolkien and his fans. On the contrary, if they hadn't liked the books (and realized that there was an audience ready to be tapped) they wouldn't have risked as much as they did to make the movies.

What they were doing was adapting the books to a different medium, where showing rather than telling is vital. Sometimes they went too far into screenwriting cliche -- setting Faramir up as more of an obstacle to Frodo's quest, for example. But they had to do quite a balancing act, trying to preserve the feel of the story and please the fans, and at the same time turn out a commercially successful film that would repay the studio's investment.

Whether any one of us likes the adaptation or not -- and every one of us has his or her own example of places that succeeded and places that didn't -- the books are not diminished in any way by it.

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Diezmann
The Shire

Dec 18 2007, 9:21pm

Post #139 of 273 (17960 views)
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There is still hope for PJ!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Is there any chance that Peter could direct the Hobbit sequel?

Well, he could direct either of them.


Thank you, Sloan!

Ich stehe hier und kann nicht anders


Idril Celebrindal
Tol Eressea


Dec 18 2007, 9:22pm

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I'm getting CGI errors.... [In reply to] Can't Post

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Will
The Shire


Dec 18 2007, 9:23pm

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Agreed [In reply to] Can't Post

I think they were able to deliver a different experiance for the big screen that showed you areas of the book that were not covered, and in the process delivered something slightly different but just as good and exciting, and i might add this is a great way of using the tools of cinema to be able to illustrate the book.

"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring


Woodyend
Gondor


Dec 18 2007, 9:25pm

Post #142 of 273 (17148 views)
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Howard Shore. [In reply to] Can't Post

I seem to remember their was some kind of falling out with him and PJ about Kong. I hope this is not the case, because he was so instrumental (sorry about the pun.) in the emotional appeal of the movies for me. So here’s to keeping my fingers crossed that he signs onto The Hobbit.

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Will
The Shire


Dec 18 2007, 9:29pm

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RE: Howard Shore [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't believe it was a "falling out" as much as a creative disagreement over the music for Kong.
We can't know for sure of course, but i believe they are still good friends, and i imagine PJ will want Shore to do the music for The Hobbit, his music is such a rich and vital part of the movies, i couldn't imagine them without it.

"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring


Ascarwen
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Dec 18 2007, 9:32pm

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You were the second person I thought of when I heard the news [In reply to] Can't Post

After Goldi!

I'll be hanging round here again, getting the hang of the board, which are still new to me, and gobbling up casting rumors!!!

This is so wonderful.


N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Dec 18 2007, 9:33pm

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I guess there is more to say on it, but if I went into more discussion, it would probably take up a page or so -- lol.

Long posts are not uncommon here, and generally welcome, as long as their level-headed and clear.

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JRandomRohirrim
Rohan


Dec 18 2007, 9:37pm

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Wow! [In reply to] Can't Post

I was out all day. However, if I'd checked TORN first, I would have known instantly that THIS WAS THE NEWS based on the huge amount of traffic here!!!

I'm delighted!

Time to archive the www.boycottnewline.com site and go see The Golden Compass and Hairspray!!


BuckyUnderbelly
Lorien


Dec 18 2007, 9:40pm

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You're absolutely right, Lily ... [In reply to] Can't Post

No matter if you love or hate the movies ... (I'm solidly on the "love" side of that particular fence, but I understand that folks have differing tastes) ... you have to realize that one is not the same as the other. The films are different animals than the books. They are separate unique entities, created in separate mediums to achieve separate goals and satisfy separate needs.

If you enjoyed the movies, that's great. But if you hated them, well, the books will still be there on your shelf, unmolested and unaltered, long after the movies have come and gone from the multi-plex. The thing you love will remain pure and undiminished no matter what happens.

Which I find to be of great comfort!


(By the by, when I say "you," I'm not meaning you specifically. It's more of a general populace "you!" Sorry if it came across that way!)Smile


"In Hollywood the screenplay is a fire hydrant. And there's a line of dogs around the block." -- Frank Miller

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elentari3018
Rohan


Dec 18 2007, 9:48pm

Post #148 of 273 (16249 views)
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lol [In reply to] Can't Post

yeah..time to get the anti-New Line icon out of my Livejournal space. ;)
I'm so glad that there is a truce and that this movie project is going on!
it's going to be awesome anticipating for THe Hobbit again... oh the Love will gush out again like there's no tomorrow. :D :D :D

"By Elbereth and Luthien the fair, you shall have neither the Ring nor me!" ~Frodo

"And then Gandalf arose and bid all men rise, and they rose, and he said: 'Here is a last hail ere the feast endeth. Last but not least. For I name now those who shall not be forgotten and without whose valour nought else that was done would have availed; and I name before you all Frodo of the Shire and Samwise his servant. And the bards and the minstrels should give them new names: Bronwe athan Harthad and Harthad Uluithiad , Endurance beyond Hope and Hope Unquenchable.." ~Gandalf, The End of the Third Age , from The History of Middle Earth series


MrCere
Sr. Staff


Dec 18 2007, 9:48pm

Post #149 of 273 (18435 views)
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If he only produces? [In reply to] Can't Post

Your boycott (and my personal hat is off to you for it) was just to have PJ involved and not PJ directing, right?

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Hengist
Forum Admin / Moderator


Dec 18 2007, 9:51pm

Post #150 of 273 (17545 views)
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OH NO! [In reply to] Can't Post

Here we go again Crazy




Guess I'll have to hang around a bit longer now Tongue



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