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Why so many times?

IdrilofGondolin
Rohan

Feb 15 2013, 6:57pm

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We have been having wonderful fun posting how many times we all have seen AUJ and in what formats. The QTNA are: 1. Why have you seen AUJ so often (especially if you have seen it 6 times or more) and 2. Did you make this much effort for multiple viewings of any or all of LOTR?


arithmancer
Grey Havens

Feb 15 2013, 7:10pm

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I've seen it 5 times, but I definitely plan a "goodbye" viewing in this week sometime. I want to see it on the big screen one more time, though it is not showing in my immediate area anymore.

I saw it on Saturday when it came out in 2D, as I went to see it with friends who are not fond of 3D. I went to see it again with my sons, which I had always planned to do. When a film is PG-13 for violence I like to see it before deciding if it is OK for the boys. I took them to see it in 3D because they enjoy that format. They really liked it, so I took them to see it again. I also, after reading all those negative and positive reviews of the 48 FPS format, located a theater in my area and went to see it in that format, with the non-3D-loving friends. (We all felt 3D 48fps was an awesome format that made the CGI look even more real and helped to alleviate the bad aspects of 3D). And I saw it one other time on a whim, when I had no plans on a weekend night and realized it would be more fun to see this movie than do anything else that occured to me.

I plan to see it again sometime this week as my sons will be away for a school vacation all week, visiting their father. it will be a fun thing to do, and the movie is rewarding to see on the big screen.

I did not go see any of the LotR movies this many times, but I would say that was more about my circumstances at the time. (No kids to take to additional viewings, and a boyfriend who agreed to see it once but was not a fan). I think I did nonetheless see them 3-4 times each, going with family members around Christmas, and making a point to go see them towards the end of their run on some random workday night when I could fit it in, just because.

I do enjoy seeing movies more than once when I like them because you see more, and also because there is an enjoyment in anticipating favorite scenes once you know they are coming. For example, I recall as a teen seeing Star Wars: Return of the Jedi three times in its opening weekend (back in the days when this involved standing in lines for hours to get the tickets!)


BoromirOfWinterfell
Rohan


Feb 15 2013, 7:35pm

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I wish I had more chances. [In reply to] Can't Post

1. I've seen AUJ three times because, well, it was brilliant. I don't think you'll ever have an experience like the first few times you watch a movie in a cinema (Especially here where we never have LotR re-runs in cinemas). It was no longer showing at the cinemas in my area , so I couldn't go again.

2. I was between the ages of 3 and 6 when the LotR films were released. So no, never really could do the same.

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Radagast-Aiwendil
Gondor


Feb 15 2013, 7:50pm

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I've seen AUJ three times, more times than any other film in the cinema (I saw RotK twice). That's enough for the moment (I don't want to spoil it before the DVD release).

That said I've lost count of how many times I have seen the LOTR films: I must have seen each one at least 50 times, maybe more like 100 times in reality.But they are so well made that I never lose interest or focus-they are just as enjoyable to watch the 81st time as they are the 1st..and even after that many viewings you don't see everything or learn everything about each character.

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LordotRings93
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Feb 15 2013, 7:51pm

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Cannot see a movie more than once in theaters [In reply to] Can't Post

It just feels like overkill and no reason to watch it when it comes out on DVD. I like seeing it once, then waiting the few months inbetween to rewatch it on DVD, in the comfort of my home, and being freshly reawakened to it.

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Kimtc
Rohan


Feb 15 2013, 7:51pm

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I can't give any deeper reason than I just love the movie. It never gets old. And the more I see it, the more I find to like. It's almost like an Easter egg hunt, looking for cool things in each scene. It has become my favorite of all the movies, which was something I absolutely did not expect.

Plus, I am totally addicted to the HFR format, which I find mesmerizing. I was going during the day, on weeknights, any time I could manage.

Did I do this for LOTR? Nope. I did see ROTK a lot in theatres, but my children were much younger when the trilogy came out, so to go a lot would have required much more complex scheduling. Heck, going to Trilogy Tuesday for the whole day meant a lot of planning.

Heaven help me when I get the Blu-ray. I'll never leave the house.


Brethil
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Feb 15 2013, 7:58pm

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I'm at 10. 11 tomorrow (2D only left but I like the 2D just fine.) and hopefully 12 and 13 next week during vaca (which thankfully our district was able to keep).
If I remember I saw FOTR 5? 6?
TTT and ROTK maybe 4 each? Plus Trilogy Tuesday for one count of them all.
For AUJ I've been out more, definitely. Feel like there is more minute detail to spy out, just like Kimtc says, its a fun egg hunt.

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painjoiker
Grey Havens


Feb 15 2013, 7:59pm

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I've seen it four times, [In reply to] Can't Post

and I've seen it four times because it was a really good film and I am sure I will miss the cinema experience so I wanted to enjoy it in cinema when I could!
I may end up seeing it one more time as well, even though I also want to wait for the extended edition to still have a "fresh" feel to the film!

I only saw the LotR films once in cinema... I was to young to see them without parents (9-11 years old) and my passion for the legendarium had not yet reached it full hold of me so to say (I had read the books before the movies)
I was to young to grasp the deeper concepts of LotR that really "caught" me in later years!

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julia0925
The Shire


Feb 15 2013, 8:04pm

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1) These types of movies just play better in the movie theater, where the screens are huge and the sound systems are better than anything I could buy. Sweeping vistas just don't play as well on a tv set, and I don't have a home theater room like my brother--even there, his screen is the size of the wall, 10 ft across. It's just not the same. When I find a movie that I truly enjoy that has marvelous scenery, and epic fights and/or explosions I like to see it in the theater as much as I can. If it's a simpler movie that's basically just people talking to each other, I'll wait for the DVD for multiple viewings.

2) I saw LOTR:FOTR 10 times in the theater. I've about matched that with TH:AUJ. Due to unforeseen circumstances, I was unable to see TTT or ROTJ that many times. I had the desire, just not the ability.

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Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Feb 15 2013, 8:36pm

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Haven't seen it as many time as I would like to have! [In reply to] Can't Post

My husband, OhioHobbit, and I have seen AUJ 7 times and would have seen it more if the weater hadn't been too bad to drive 40 miles to the theater. We have no better reason to see it over and over except that we loved the movie.

We saw the LOTR movies about a dozen times each. The weather must have been better -- not so much snow and they were in the theater longer. Our theater just rushed The Hobbit through.

We plan to buy the DVD when it comes out and watch AUJ a bunch more times -- plus pausing and checking out each scene carefully!




Escapist
Gondor


Feb 15 2013, 8:43pm

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TH:AUJ feels more like an event than a mere movie. [In reply to] Can't Post

It's like Christmas or any other Holiday where I feel I want to go see it with friends, on my own, with this part of my family, and then again with that part of my family, etc. It's like having Thanksgiving with both sides of the family, your friends, and then doing a little something on your own as well. It's exactly like a major Holiday.

In fact ... even those that I feel closely associated that seem to be snubbing me lately have included TH:AUJ in their arsenal of ways to snub me! Just like you would not-invite someone to any other major celebration to make a statement! It's just like that.


Elessar
Valinor


Feb 15 2013, 8:52pm

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I think its an awesome movie. I saw it four times within it being out 10 days of it being out. It feels very much like the book and I love spending time within Middle-earth. I have a deep love for this world and spending time there be it in the books or movies is time well spent.

I did with The Return of the King. When the others came out I was in college and had a very limited budget so I kept to a one time rule. Now, After re-releases, Trilogy Tuesday events, etc I've seen the others FOTR 3 times, TTT 3 times, ROTK 5 times, and AUJ 5 times.



Old Toby
Grey Havens


Feb 15 2013, 10:50pm

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Why have you seen AUJ so often (especially if you have seen it 6 times or more)?
Today will be my 20th time for AUJ. Unfortunately it's no longer playing in 3D HFR here, so I have to settle for the 2D version. But, undaunted, I still will go as long as it is playing in any format. When I tell other people how many times I've seen it, they look at me....well, you know. As for the 'why': I go because I love the film, I love being transported into Middle-earth, being in the presence of these amazing characters, particularly all the dwarves. I go because there are scenes I want to re-live over and over on the big screen, from the dialogue to the music to the sweeping landscapes of New Zealand (which will forever be Middle-earth in my mind). And I will freely admit, I am completely enchanted by Thorin Oakenshield and his hair! LOL!

Did you make this much effort for multiple viewings of any or all of LOTR?
Oh my yes! I saw FOTR, I swear, about 50 times! I think I saw it at least twice a week for as long as it played here, and it played a lot longer than AUJ is going to. I just couldn't get enough of it, and besides, it seemed like all the other movies playing simply paled in comparison. I didn't go so many times to either TTT or ROTK. It's odd that even when there have been other movies I've loved and have gone to see them maybe 2 or 3 times over, I just don't have the same passion about them as I do with AUJ and the LOTR films. For me, these films, all of them, have made my life a happier place, and I'm forever grateful to PJ and everyone who works on these movies for transporting me to such a fantastic, vital, exciting world. (Oh, yeah, and to whatsshisname who wrote those darned books upon which these are based!)


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AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Feb 15 2013, 11:06pm

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I have seen it seven times because I enjoyed it greatly. [In reply to] Can't Post

Also, on different viewings I sometimes brought different friends and relatives along. Midnight showing with mine Lady fair and friends, showings for the kiddies and kin etc. etc. If it were still playing in the theater nearest to me, I would see it several more just to help push it over that 300 million line. Oh that I were getting a piece of the profits Laugh lol. And as soon as it crosses that monetary line. . . I cannot wait for the Blu-Ray/DVD! lol


I saw Fellowship more often. Towers less, and Return of The King about the same as this.

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We have been having wonderful fun posting how many times we all have seen AUJ and in what formats. The QTNA are: 1. Why have you seen AUJ so often (especially if you have seen it 6 times or more) and 2. Did you make this much effort for multiple viewings of any or all of LOTR?


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."

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ryouko
Lorien

Feb 15 2013, 11:25pm

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My co-worker has seen it 8 times. She says it's because we've both been so stressed(working nearly constant OT since August) that we need that escape.

But it's not just that for me. I love movies that are action/adventure/fantasy/humorous! I'm not much into the "realistic movies". I like that takes me away from that. I already live in the real world. I don't need movies that show me what I already have to put up with. I want stuff that takes me away. And that's what this movie is to me. It takes me to a world that doesn't exist, with lots of fun and interesting characters.

It simply makes me happy. Which is the most important reason of all. ^_^


ghost_matt
Rivendell

Feb 16 2013, 12:02am

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I've only seen it twice... [In reply to] Can't Post

...though I wanted to see it more. When LOTR came out, I lived with my parents and didn't have kids or bills. I saw FOTR 7 times in the theater, TTT 6 times, and ROTK 5 times. I think. It's been a long time.

I was going to see The Hobbit one more time, but it wasn't playing in 3D in my area anymore and I knew it was coming out on blu ray in March or April, so I decided to just wait. It's not like LOTR where you had to wait 6-8 months for the dvd. Though when I buy the blu ray I'm sure I'll watch it too many times to count, as I have with the LOTR movies.


Eowyn3
Rivendell

Feb 16 2013, 12:21am

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The main reason I have watched the movie so many times is because a love it. The funny thing is I did not really expect to like it this much. I was excited as a Tolkien fan, but 3 hours of Bilbo seemed a little too much. That all changed when Martin Freeman started acting. I could watch him act Bilbo all day. Then, of course, there is Richard Armitage acting Thorin; it completely changed the way I ever thought of Thorin. The whole cast is fantastic.
I think the other reason I have watched it so much is because my teenage kids like Tolkien almost as much as I do, and I have enjoyed watching it together with them.
Also, I think AUJ is kind of my happy place, no major characters die and you don't yet have the sadness that will be inevitable in the TABA. I don't think I'll be watching TABA that many times on the big screen. At home, I always forward Boromir's and Haldir's death.
LOTR was different for me because my kids were very young and I did not have the time to go to the movies very much, so I only watched each movie once when they came out. As it is, we watch them all the time on DVD and if there is a special showing at the theater we would not miss it. We saw the 10th year anniversary and of course the LOTR marathon. So much fun! I wish they had it every year. I love watching it on the big screen.

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Brethil
Half-elven


Feb 16 2013, 12:49am

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I don't think I'll be watching TABA that many times on the big screen.


I cannot agree with you more Eowyn. It will be a shattering experience and I don't know how many big screen viewings I will do. Its not a casual experience for us. Repeats might be at home.

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Glorfindela
Valinor

Feb 16 2013, 12:52am

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1. I have seen it about eight or nine times so far, and counting. I love the visuals, acting and characters so much, especially in the 48 HFR, and I know that no DVD is going to replicate that experience. Once the film is gone from the big screens, it is gone. Its run in cinemas, especially in the high frame rate, is really far too short.

2. I saw each of the LOTR films a few times – don't remember quite how many times – on the big screen.

For the record, I have never been to see any other film apart from the Middle-Earth films more than once on the big screen.


Eruwestial37
Rohan

Feb 16 2013, 1:03am

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And I wish it was ten times that number. I never expected to like it that much. Each showing made me love it more. Finances prevented me from seeing it more often. The Dwarves are so individual, it's like making 13 new friends that you cannot spend enough time with. Bilbo shines also. I love how PJ has turned his country into our favorite place on earth. I'm going to start saving so I can see the next two far more often.

I saw FOTR once, having never read the book. Ringwraiths scared me to death! TT opened my eyes to the beauty of Elves, with Legolas becoming my reason for being.Blush I saw it 22 times. ROTK was wonderful but so intense I only saw it 6 times.
These are the counts during their first run. I saw them all again during "Trilogy Tuesday" and other re-issues.


Ardamírë
Valinor


Feb 16 2013, 1:50am

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I can't wait to hear how many times she's seen it by now!! Smile

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


Roheryn
Tol Eressea

Feb 16 2013, 3:22am

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Thorin's hair. ;-) [In reply to] Can't Post

Okay, his hair is only part of it. A delicious part, nonetheless...

I'm up to 14 times. It's down to one showing a day now -- but in 3D HFR on probably the best screen in town -- at a single theatre in our city now, and this could be its last week. Fingers crossed for one more week. Will go again if I can, but it's tricky.

Why so many times? I love it, plain and simple. I have to see it enough times to internalize it, until it's so familiar that it -- okay, maybe this sounds weird -- becomes part of me. There's so much going on in every scene, so many characters to look at, that I still found new things in my last viewing. How could I ever get bored? And, lest I lose sight of the forest for the trees, the story itself is, of course, compelling: a displaced king-in-waiting seeking to reclaim his lost kingdom, and a little person (ok, hobbit) discovering himself through an Unexpected Adventure. And I really can't get enough of Thorin. Did I mention his hair?

I saw FOTR 17 times in a theater, and I don't remember exactly for TTT and ROTK -- between 5 and 10 each, I believe. I had to internalize those three too; and would have seen the latter two more times but for tighter finances. I've seen all the Star Wars movies multiple times in theaters, but (with the exception of Episode IV, which I've seen way more times than I can count) more like 3-5 times each. For any other movie, once or twice in a theater is plenty!


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Feb 16 2013, 3:24am

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My ears were ringing! ;)

I'll tell you and only you, Ardamire!!! Viewing #30 is tomorrow (Saturday) at a theatre that's a hour away... so I won't be seeing it many more times than this. *sigh* Maybe... *winkie, wink* :)

The QTNA are:
1. Why have you seen AUJ so often (especially if you have seen it 6 times or more)
..... There are some films that are meant to be watched on the BIG SCREEN with BIG SOUND... and Jackson's storytelling of Tolkien's tales are definitely that! Plus, it's a lot cheaper than getting therapy ;) I just LOVE this movie, and I just LOVE disappearing into it as often as possible! *twitch* I can't WAIT for the DVD!

2. Did you make this much effort for multiple viewings of any or all of LOTR?
.....I knew I'd never make the average of 58 times I saw each of the LotR films, but I really wanted to give it a go! It's not because the intent wasn't there; but TH has stayed at my theatre a very short time compared to LotR films. The closest theatre now playing TH is an hour away... so between the 2 hours of driving and 3 hours of film, my RL responsibilities now don't allow me that luxury of time hardly at all. PLUS it costs about $20 in gas each trip. ;)

ps... I've got all of my ticket stubs from all the films. Richard Taylor even checked out my little baggie filled with my LotR ticket stubs back after the 2004 Oscars... ON CAMERA!




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morgul lord
Rivendell


Feb 16 2013, 4:31am

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Saw it 3 times, the first week... [In reply to] Can't Post

But not since then. I kind of want to go again, but I also want to wait for the DVD.

I'm worried of watching it too many times, like I did with LOTR!


Silverlode
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Feb 16 2013, 4:41am

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1. I've seen it 5 times so far, and will maybe get one more in before it leaves the last of my local theaters. I feel like I'm just getting to know it - the books are like old friends I know very well, and the movies are like new additions to the family. I enjoy getting acquainted. And in this case, I really enjoyed the HFR and was happy to have gotten 4 viewings in of that format. I figure it'll never look like that in my living room (I don't even have an HD TV or Blu-Ray player), so I might as well make the most of it.

2. I saw FOTR 12 times, TTT 8 times and ROTK only 6 - not because I didn't like it as much, I just had very little free time over that Christmas season and it was difficult to find 4 hours to go see it. I never really expected to see AUJ as many times, since my life is busier now than it was a decade ago. But while I rarely go to see movies more than once in the theater (actually, I rarely see movies in the theater at all), it's not unusual for me to rewatch favorite films multiple times on DVD. These films are special to my heart, as are the books. They get favored status and a lot more views (in theaters and at home) than most others.

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Ardamírë
Valinor


Feb 16 2013, 5:03am

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Wow, 30 viewing Shocked I'm just in awe, and to think that that is so many less than the LOTR average. It's too bad it's so far away from you now. I totally understand not being able to dedicate 5 hours to it. It gets to be too much.

Wow, look at all those ticket stubs! That's so crazy! Laugh

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


MasterOrc
Rivendell


Feb 16 2013, 5:19am

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I made it to my [In reply to] Can't Post

13th viewing yesterday in IMAX 3D HFR...It was awesome as always.....


macfalk
Valinor


Feb 16 2013, 10:05am

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How many times have you watched it? [In reply to] Can't Post

Smile



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macfalk
Valinor


Feb 16 2013, 10:10am

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Rewatch value. [In reply to] Can't Post

It's interesting. The first time I saw TH:AUJ, the reactions for me was a mixed bag with both good and bad, but I liked it still. I was not ready for the amount of changes, mainly with Azog, but I got over that the next viewing. The film has it's minor flaws, but I have come to love it now, still, despite all that. I think this is how most of us feel. There are some nitpicks, but it doesn't ruin the movie, far from it. It works.

For me it has higher re-watch value than TTT or ROTK. It's a thrill ride all the way, I am never bored watching AUJ. Whereas TTT or ROTK I very rarely rewatch. FOTR I have seen on DVD probably about 100-150 times, lost count years ago.

I have only watched it three times, but there's no rush - I know it will play here a lot longer than in USA, and in 3D HFR too (which I have come to love).



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


imin
Valinor


Feb 16 2013, 12:53pm

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Do you think it's replay value for you [In reply to] Can't Post

comes down to it being a better film than TTT and ROTK in your mind or that you just much prefer The Hobbit book over LOTR book and so any film about it would be more interesting?


macfalk
Valinor


Feb 16 2013, 1:02pm

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I think while all the LOTRs may be "better" than AUJ are, I'd rather watch AUJ any time of the day and those two (TTT and ROTK). They're so dark and bleak so they don't exactly encourage several sittings over and over again. Once or twice a year perhaps but thats about it as far as I'm concerned.

FOTR and AUJ are more alike, I find them both to be pretty rewarding when re-watching them.



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


imin
Valinor


Feb 16 2013, 1:11pm

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I was thinking it might have just been you simply prefer the story of the hobbit and so the movie which its about would be your preference.

I too think FOTR has the most reply value and is my favourite out of them all, then ROTK, then TTT then AUJ. Like you i think, if any of the LOTR films are like AUJ it would be FOTR.

I have watched AUJ 2 times at the cinema and 2 times 'at home' i now get to the point where i just skip ahead once they meet Elrond to Riddles in the Dark, then once Bilbo escapes i skip to the eagles rescuing them and then i just turn it off so as to avoid the dreaded hug! lol. For me it has some replay value for the parts i like - bag end stuff but other than that i am already a bit bored of it. Still i will almost certainly buy the EE in hope i will like it more.

Personally i don't find TTT or ROTK bleak either in how it looks visually or tone/mood wise but if you do then i can see that being quite emotionally tiring as to not want to watch it all the time.


macfalk
Valinor


Feb 16 2013, 1:16pm

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That's interesting [In reply to] Can't Post

The part from Riddles in the dark - the end is one of my favourite parts of the movie. And I love the embrace at the end! Yelling at Bilbo like that sounded like something book-Thorin would have done and I thought it was a nice forshadowing to what happens at the gate of the Lonely Mountain.



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


imin
Valinor


Feb 16 2013, 1:23pm

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I'm not going to go into the hug as there have been about 343456543 threads on it, lol.

It's cool you like it, especially with it being one of your favourite books, i can remember coming out of the cinema after FOTR had just finished and i was in a daze and couldn't wait to get it on VHS/DVD.


Ardamírë
Valinor


Feb 16 2013, 1:29pm

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I didn't like it unfortunately, so I never went back. I plan to buy the extended edition whenever it comes out, though. Hopefully I'll enjoy it more.

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Feb 16 2013, 2:37pm

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Since it's just not that good compared to LOTR. Watched FOTR & TTT 5 times in theater and ROTK 3 times.

I'm waiting for the extended edition to see what PJ has done with the movie.


Elessar
Valinor


Feb 16 2013, 3:07pm

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I think all four films have high replay value. When the movies started coming out on DVD I watched them a ton. It probably wasn't but it sure seems like it was every weekend. lol I finally had to stop that because I would have burned myself out to be honest. So I made a rule to watch them 1-2 times a year in a trilogy setting. It makes the anticipation build for the next viewing. So for me the three The Lord of the Rings films all have a high rewatch rate. I have a an order id rate them but watching any of them anytime is no big deal. i very much see The Hobbit films being the same way. I loved the first film a lot and for me it was as good at being The Hobbit as The Lord of the Rings was at being The Lord of the Rings. In the end I'll set the same rule for The Hobbit as i have done with The Lord of the Rings just to keep things fresh. Of course I will have six movies over a few days to get through.

This is of course on top of listening to the OST EE, reading the books every year, doing stuff for TORn, collecting Middle-earth items. So I'm in a constant Middle-earth flow. So for me Middle-earth never ends and the films replay value is mega high.



Brethil
Half-elven


Feb 16 2013, 4:26pm

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I hail your dedication Gramma!!!!Heart

I might have gone to see all of the LOTR films more except that my son was very young then, so it was harder to get out. But this one is so much fun.

Next view in three and a half hoursSmile

Thirty days til (US) video and counting! Its on the calendar in little red numbers.

Just thinking about our wanton love of repeat views - Is there perhaps some level of (paraphrase Boromir) "Today life is good"? Because I'm starting to feel that only two of the three films will be a jolly fun repeat ride in public. For many of us thinking TABA might be a repeat at home where we can cry as loud as want. We all knew about the end of ROTK (still, tissues please) but it has that undyling redemptive joy. Even so I can only watch it to the end once a year.
TABA ending? Hmm. Going to hurt. What do you think?

...she took the point at once, but she also took the spoons.


Eowyn3
Rivendell

Feb 16 2013, 4:46pm

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That's exactly how I feel. As I said on my previous post, AUJ is my happy place, life is good and it all ends well. DOS should still be fine; I'm certainly looking forward to seeing Mirkwood and Thranduil's Hall. However, TABA, I don't think there will be repeat viewing at the big screen. At that point, the fast forward button at home, along with tissues will be my best friends. I already feel so attached to the characters; more than I ever did in the book. I may have to go again for my 10th viewing, since it still playing in HFR 3D near my house.

" He has just as much reason to go to war as you do. Why can he not fight for those he loves?"


Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Feb 16 2013, 4:53pm

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Mine too! [In reply to] Can't Post

That's exactly how I feel. As I said on my previous post, AUJ is my happy place, life is good and it all ends well. DOS should still be fine; I'm certainly looking forward to seeing Mirkwood and Thranduil's Hall. However, TABA, I don't think there will be repeat viewing at the big screen. At that point, the fast forward button at home, along with tissues will be my best friends. I already feel so attached to the characters; more than I ever did in the book. I may have to go again for my 10th viewing, since it still playing in HFR 3D near my house.


This is my feeling as well on AUJ. It's my happy place. I have a stressful RL job and if I can go and sit in the cinema for 3 hours and just chill and smile and enjoy it that's my gig. I love to just get away. I will be sad when it leaves quite honestly. The casting was just done so well, from all of the dwarves, including RA, to Freeman and Bilbo and of course McKellan as Gandalf. I just lose myself in it and forget my problems. It's a breath of fresh air for me.


IdrilofGondolin
Rohan

Feb 16 2013, 5:52pm

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And I wished it could be double that. Ran into sickness and a big Christmas. And I can't watch 3-D -- it gives me headaches -- so I had a very limited number of times available for viewing. The 2-D times in my area were very inconvenient. But I am looking forward to getting the DVD and watching it a lot.


AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Feb 16 2013, 5:55pm

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You and I share a common sentiment here, I think. Though there are scenes [In reply to] Can't Post

from both TTT and Return of The King that I could watch ad infinitum, i.e. The Battle of Gandalf and The Balrog, his return, Arwen and Elrond discussing Aragorn, The Story as foreseen from Rivendell and Lorien, Pippin and The Palantir in Rohan, Frodo on the side of Orodruin, The Eagles, The Crowning and The Havens, to sit and watch those movies entire repeatedly, aside from those above mentioned scenes, is not entirely appealing to me (save sometimes for the sake of full experience after watching Extended Fellowship) even in their theatrical versions, for amidst the wonder and the melancholy enchantings, there are huge plains of bleak viewing. Literally and figuratively bleak, but lacking the piercing, charmed melanholy that makes a scene like Arwen's and Elrond's beautiful despite (and in part because of) the sorrow it encompases.

An Unexpected Journey brims with vibrant, jubuilant wonder that I will doubtless watch again and again, like a bedtime story on screen. I can skip Azog and the running of the hares easily enough. lol

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I think while all the LOTRs may be "better" than AUJ are, I'd rather watch AUJ any time of the day and those two (TTT and ROTK). They're so dark and bleak so they don't exactly encourage several sittings over and over again. Once or twice a year perhaps but thats about it as far as I'm concerned.

FOTR and AUJ are more alike, I find them both to be pretty rewarding when re-watching them.


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


Kirly
Lorien


Feb 16 2013, 6:08pm

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I've seen AUJ 7 times [In reply to] Can't Post

Simply because I love it. In fact, I like AUJ more than any of the LOTR movies. Strangely enough that is reversed with the books.

And I didn't make this much effort with the LOTR films while they were in the theatres although I long ago lost count of the number of times I've watched at home.

Curious, someone said the watched AUJ "at home". How exactly?

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imin
Valinor


Feb 16 2013, 6:16pm

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My friend downloaded it and so we watched it over at his house. He actually likes it more than i do so will be buying the SE and EE!

I then streamed it from online as i wanted to see if my feelings about the boring parts had changed - it hasn't. I find it really lacks replay value and i think i will need a long break from it until the EE comes out - something i am excited to get and see if they make some changes that i will like as its been really disappointing having all the build up etc and then feeling like it didn't live up to what i hoped for.


macfalk
Valinor


Feb 16 2013, 6:34pm

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"Boring parts" [In reply to] Can't Post

These parts you describe as "boring" - what did you think about these passages in the book?



The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


imin
Valinor


Feb 16 2013, 6:40pm

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I like them in the book [In reply to] Can't Post

But then they are different in the book.


The Prancing Pony
Rivendell

Feb 16 2013, 7:39pm

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Why so many times? [In reply to] Can't Post

1. I have seen AUJ six times now and though I really liked it the first time, every additional viewing made me love it even more. I don't normally watch one film several times in the cinema, but with AUJ I wanted to make up for not seeing LOTR back then. Every time the end credits started rolling, I wished to watch it again right away. I think AUJ is just the kind of movie you have to watch on the big screen as often as you can.
I had to plan quite a bit to squeeze it into my timetable. I actually saw it many a time when I should have been studying for my exams instead. Once, when I wasn't able to sleep at night, and therefore felt very dizzy the next day, I decided I wasn't fit enough to attend university . . . I went to the cinema instead. Blush
And now I can't wait to buy the DVD and watch it as many times in a row as I like.

2. Regrettably not. I didn't see any LOTR on the big screen. I was young then and my first remembrance of anything Tolkien was when my brother bought FOTR. I was so scared by Bree, the Eye, Sauron's voice, Gollum and Galadriel that I decided to hate LOTR. I had changed my views by the time ROTK was out on DVD, but that's why I missed out on so much. My only hope then was "Wait! Isn't there a book called 'The Hobbit'?".

"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Feb 17 2013, 1:39am

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My little heart actually did a little FLIP! I'm with you about TABA. Actually, I'm really scared of it. I know Peter, Philippa and Fran are going to devastate my heart again! I still can't watch RotK without losing it. Even the credits make the tears fall.

FotR is my favourite of the LotR films because the Fellowship is together and there's so much time in the Shire. RotK is the most emotional, but FotR is my friend. Now AUJ is right up there with it :)

You're right. Today... life is good :)



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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Feb 17 2013, 1:45am

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Some missing TORnsibs and I [In reply to] Can't Post

had a few years after RotK was done where we met up and had a home-viewing together. Comfort food, fresh batteries in the remote, and boxes of tissues everywhere. Each year when we got towards the end of RotK, we had tossed our spent tissues into a pile in the middle of the floor and dubbed them Mt. Gloom... or Mt. Tissue...

I was a mess the first time I saw RotK. A pathethic mess. Even now, I have to take the day off to recover from that numb, sad, surreal place. I have a BIG feeling TABA is going to be the same way. *sigh*

I'm taking the day off when AUJ comes out just so I can sit home and watch it... starting shortly after midnight when I've finally got it in my hot little hands!



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Elessar
Valinor


Feb 17 2013, 1:45am

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Can't wait [In reply to] Can't Post

I am going to have to download the digital copy for my iTunes collection so less than 30 days. Then of course ill see it again once the BR comes I

Like you I expect the TABA to be quite emotional. Just going off of ROTK that's my expectations. Many moments in The Lord of the Rings tear me up some more than most. The end of ROTK really gets me though and I'm watery eye at best. The end credits with into the West make me cry every time but part of that is I think due to a grandmother I lost 13 years ago this year.



Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Feb 17 2013, 1:51am

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I am bawling by the time Annie Lennox starts singing into the West. I was a wreck at the RoTK opening by the end. I know TABA is going to be the same. The scene between Thorin and Bilbo there...I just can't even.....


Brethil
Half-elven


Feb 17 2013, 2:01am

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Just got in, such a joy. My son playing the soundtrack all the way home. Well I'm sure not getting LESS attached to these amazing charactars! Though I have to say Eowyn I also browsed the last chapter yesterday looking for a quote and oh my...a tear ran down my cheek just accidentally seeing the Fili and Kili sentence (I was avoiding it but saw it anyway)!!!!!

...she took the point at once, but she also took the spoons.


Brethil
Half-elven


Feb 17 2013, 2:07am

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And as we already ADORE Bilbo...how much more punch will ROTK have when he walks into Elrond's arms?
The hits just keep coming....

But Life Is Good! Let's enjoy our happy ME as long as we can!

...she took the point at once, but she also took the spoons.


Brethil
Half-elven


Feb 17 2013, 2:09am

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Wow [In reply to] Can't Post

That's a potent combination for tears. Heart

...she took the point at once, but she also took the spoons.


Elessar
Valinor


Feb 17 2013, 2:18am

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I will say I'm able to hold it together for the most part in public. Though into the West is the part that does get me. Now at home it's a different ball game and I don't have to hold back. It's been a while but after watch of FOTR my sister asked me why I liked these movies so much. For some reason explaining it I just started crying. I'm not sure why but I think it was just trying to explain why Middle-earth (both book and movie) means so much to me.



Elessar
Valinor


Feb 17 2013, 2:24am

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It is [In reply to] Can't Post

 I admit to be an emotional guy. Wear my heart on my sleep type and probably not the manliest of men but that is one song I swear will tear me up everytime.



sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea

Feb 17 2013, 2:26am

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I saw FotR and TTT 12-15 times in the theater. I think i only saw RotK around 5 or 6 times, though i'm not sure why so few as i can't really remember. I certainly liked it as much as the first two (in my mind it's TTT > FotR > RotK, though it's very, very close). I guess i was just doing other things at the time.

Part of the reason i haven't seen AUJ as much is because money's short right now. But even if money weren't an object, i doubt i would see it much more than 4 or 5 times. It's just a little bit lesser than the LotR films, with not as many great, memorable moments. I still like it, and will get both the Theatrical and Extended Editions, and will watch them many many times. It just doesn't have that something extra that sticks in my brain and drives me to leave the house and drop 10-15 bucks once or twice a week to take it all in again, get to know the characters a little better, and try to spot something new. I hope that changes with more viewings, but that's gonna have to wait for the blu-ray...


Brethil
Half-elven


Feb 17 2013, 2:58am

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Life in meant to be felt [In reply to] Can't Post

 You are in good company Elessar!

...she took the point at once, but she also took the spoons.


Rostron2
Gondor


Feb 17 2013, 3:14am

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Wow [In reply to] Can't Post

You guys must be made of money...jut sayin'


Elessar
Valinor


Feb 17 2013, 3:28am

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Very true [In reply to] Can't Post

I am glad to be in that company. Cool



Eowyn3
Rivendell

Feb 17 2013, 3:52am

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It is nice to have other people of like mind! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Esmeralda
Bree


Feb 17 2013, 4:05pm

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Five times, so far [In reply to] Can't Post

and it's disappeared from the local theatres, but it's still playing in IMAX at the museums in DC, so I'd like to catch it at least once more.

I've been wondering why I kept going back to see it, since that's not something I've ever done before. I don't think I saw any of LotR movies more than once or twice in the theater, though the DVDs have certainly got a lot of mileage ;).

I've never liked 3-D, so I went to see the 2-D first, just to watch the story. I liked it very much, though I thought some scenes went on too long - Radaghast, White Council, stone giants. I loved the emphasis on Thorin's story and was thoroughly impressed by the performances of RA and MF. The dwarf-pack was simply fun to watch, and I appreciated all the links to LotR.

Then I went back for the 3-D HFR to see what Jackson's true visual intent was. I really was quite impressed. So sharp, so clear, such deep color saturation - which was a problem with other 3-D I've seen. There were so many rich details layered into every scene. And I was so happy they'd got the eagles right, finally! The floppy wings had bothered me every time I saw them, and now they had proper angular movement and you could see every feather fluttering...gorgeous.

I went back again for the 3-D HFR and this time I didn't find any of the scenes too long. Maybe because I knew enough just to sit back and enjoy everything that PJ and the actors and designers had made such an effort to create. I could think about what they were setting up for the next two movies, and really immerse myself in the experience.

Then 3-D HFR went away, and I decided to try IMAX 3-D. It was rather an assault on the senses - so loud, so big, so intense. But by the time it finished, I wanted to do it again - like a roller-coaster ride that knocks you about and takes your breath away :). So I went again when I had the chance.

It is a time commitment, and it's not cheap, especially with the inflated prices for 3-D and IMAX, but PJ really did create this movie for the intense, immersive experience of the theatre. I feel it's important to take advantage of that before the opportunity is gone.

And one more thing. Every time I've seen the movie, even when I felt some portions dragged on a bit, I felt an incredibly sharp sense of loss at the end. I wanted to keep going - to make it all the way to that mountain with these fabulous dwarves and their surprisingly resourceful Hobbit. I don't want to wait a year to finish that journey, but at present, the best I can do is replay the journey from the beginning, over and over again.

So yeah, that's why.


Brethil
Half-elven


Feb 18 2013, 1:05am

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Indeed! [In reply to] Can't Post

As am I!Smile

...she took the point at once, but she also took the spoons.


Brethil
Half-elven


Feb 18 2013, 1:09am

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That's why its such a pleasure to have TORn, even though I sort of skipped out for a few years.

Will be so glad to share the second journey. And personally I will be happy to have AUJ to come back to as a happy place for a long time to come; like Gramma rightly says "it feels like a friend" (and long time might read 'forever'!)

...she took the point at once, but she also took the spoons.


Owain
Tol Eressea


Feb 18 2013, 1:35am

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Why so many times? [In reply to] Can't Post

Quite simply, I love Tolkien's beautiful stories and I love Peter Jackson's rendition of them. Smile

Because of this, I gladly support them and enjoy each viewing as a special occasion. For me, it's one of the things in my life that makes me tick. I have seen The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey 7 times. There are so many details to behold within the design, sets, and VFX that go along with the core of it all... the characters and story. Like many others here, I enjoy being transported to Middle Earth and experiencing it on a massive screen with totally immersive picture and sound. I saw all 3 of the LOTR trilogy many times in theaters as well and hoped that I would be able to do so when The Hobbit finally came to fruition. For me, there wasn't ever any question of whether I would like them or not. I knew that Peter Jackson and his entire crew would put their very heart, soul, and spirit into making the best movies that they could... and for me... those are beautiful, soulful, thoughtful, and enchanting movies. I am overjoyed at the opportunity to not only see the movie many times in theatres, but the choice of formats that have provided me different experiences altogether.

I loved HFR 3D and can't wait to see the final 2 acts in this format... loved it!

On my 7th viewing, after I had taken my beloved wife multiple times, I saw it with my father. He has never read the Lord of the Rings or The Hobbit and has only seen glimpses of The Fellowship of the Ring. He does not read fantasy, nor has he ever shown in any interest in Tolkien or the genre. Also, he has never been to a 3D movie in his entire life. He accepted my invitation to go see TH:AUJ in HFR 3D. When it was over, I asked him to be brutally honest. He absolutely loved it. The story, characters, design, visuals... everything. He loved it and has promised to see parts 2 and 3 with me.

So ultimately, why multiple viewings? It's a chance to share something I love, with people who have a mutual love for it as well as introduce new people to this world.

Middle Earth is New Zealand!

"Question everything, embrace the bad, and hold on to the good."


Roheryn
Tol Eressea

Feb 18 2013, 8:00am

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Managed to talk Mr. Ro into kidsitting, and I absconded. This was on the (probable) best screen in our city that I've mentioned before -- the XTreme screen, in 3D HFR, and it was just fantastic. Wish I could have seen it every time this way. Expensive, though! But I was SOO impressed -- it was Sunday afternoon, and there were probably 200+ people (!!!) in the audience -- the huge theatre was about half full. Looks like it'll be around at least another week at that theatre, so maybe I'll be able to sneak #16 in too. I'm so pleased; I had thought it was going to be completely gone a couple of weeks ago, so this is a huge bonus.


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Feb 18 2013, 8:16am

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There are a few films I will see twice, generally epic hero journey stuff like Avengers, or great animation like Brave. Some stuff I'll see once, anything else, I'll wait for the DVD.

There are rare films I will see over and over, even before they leave the theater; Star Wars, LOTR and The Hobbit are that kind of film.

I've been a Tolkien fan since I read LOTR in 1978, and waited quite a long time to see someone visualize it well.

Not only do I want to immerse myself in my favorite realm again and again... but PJ and crew have put so much detail and effort into visualizing this world and its characters that you NEED to see it multiple times just to catch all the geeky observations.

I'll be the one with the DVD in slo-mo, backing it up, and driving anyone watching with me insane...

think: fan, with remote... run awaaaaaaaaay

Go outside and play...


canadianLOTR
The Shire

Feb 18 2013, 6:37pm

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Seen it once but definitely want to see it again. Probably not in the 48fps though, that was not the best in my opinion.


Ataahua
Forum Admin / Moderator


Feb 18 2013, 7:07pm

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I then saw it in 2D, then saw it again at 48fps with a friend - and found that I really liked it! I think I just needed to get used to the idea of The Hobbit not having the same gritty realism in its visuals as the LOTR movies had.

And welcome to TORN. :)

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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canadianLOTR
The Shire

Feb 18 2013, 10:14pm

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I could have seen twice because I bought 2 pairs of tickets but, I gave them away. Maybe if I did see it again I would change my opinion.

 
 

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