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In which Ro continues having thoughts

Roheryn
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Jan 24 2013, 11:17pm

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I made it to viewing #11 last night (thanks to Mr. Ro for indulging me), and still have new musings and observations to share! It takes a pretty special movie for viewers to still be noticing and thinking about new things after 11 viewings, doesn’t it? (Either that or said viewer is just a bit slow on the uptake, and if you suggest that, c’mere and I’ll thwap you.)

(Apologies in advance for the length!)

So, here you go.

1. Radagast’s nose is listing to starboard. No particular significance there, but I remember reading that the prosthetics team subtly straightened RA’s nose. Radagast clearly got the opposite treatment!
2. The bird that tells Radagast about the Necromancer is an American robin (I’ve seen it pointed out elsewhere that it is a robin, but both the UK and New Zealand have unrelated species that are also called robins). Now, I find this American robin to be particularly out of place: they are native to North America, so not only are there none in the UK (and so should be none in Middle-earth), but there are none in NZ either (so no inspiration for them being in New Zealand-flavoured Middle-earth).
3. Azog’s white Warg, as has been noted elsewhere I think, is indeed female. The Warg that Kili shoots as per Thorin’s silent instruction (while the company hides below the rock that the Warg and its rider are on) is clearly male.
4. Something about the Wargs’ heads strikes me as catlike. I think it’s because they are so broad. Canids tend to have narrower ones.
5. As the company is winding their way through the narrow rock crevice heading in to Rivendell, Bofur is behind Bombur, and several times shoves him along. I couldn’t tell if it was because Bombur, fat Dwarf that he is, was getting stuck and Bofur was trying to unstick him, or if Bombur was getting distracted by something and wanting to stop to smell the roses, as it were; or maybe Bombur just wasn’t moving fast enough for Bofur? Ha! Need to see the movie again.
6. Thorin knows perfectly well where Gandalf is leading them by the time they’re brought to bay by the Wargs and Orcs on the plains, and knows exactly where the path leads once they’ve all escaped down into that little cave. He seems to be fuming about it but can’t do anything but follow Gandalf there. He’s certainly not going to tell Dwalin that they should follow the path, even though he knows they have no choice.
7. Saruman’s line at the White Council: (approximately) “…who calls himself a necromancer…”. Now this is interesting: what evidence is there that said being (?) “calls himself” such? Has someone actually spoken with him? Radagast surely didn’t hear that spooky shape holler out “I AM A NECROMANCER! MUAHAHAHA!”, did he?
8. During the lovely exchange between Bofur and Bilbo in the Goblins’ “front porch”, you can see flashes of light from lightning – clearly the storm is still raging outside, yet Bilbo is intending to head back to Rivendell anyways. Brave (or foolish?) Hobbit!
9. In the book, after Bilbo asks Gollum the egg riddle, Gollum takes a while to answer. Bilbo finally tells him, “The answer’s not a kettle boiling over, as you seem to think from the noise you are making.” Bilbo of course doesn’t say this in the movie, but the noise Gollum makes there in the movie as he’s thinking does sound, to me at least, just like Bilbo describes it in the book! Neat attention to detail. :-)
10. When they stop for the head-count after escaping Goblin-town, and discover Bilbo missing, Kili looks wildly around for Bilbo – but is looking at the ground, as if Bilbo might be a lost bag or package that someone dropped.
11. Through the “15 birds in 5 fir trees” sequence, there’s a moon shining behind clouds. Whenever I remembered to look for it (which was only when Thorin wasn’t on screen), I never could see the actual moon, just its light behind the clouds. Has anyone else managed to see the moon there or is it not shown at all? I ask because if we could see the phase, we could work out what time of night it is.
12. Another detail in the book that was followed perfectly: after Gandalf and company throw the pinecones into the Wargs and set things on fire, the book says, “The dwarves and Bilbo shouted and cheered.” That is EXACTLY what they do in the movie!
13. Just before we see Smaug’s nostril emerge from the mound of gold at the end, we can see a staircase in the background. There are large runes on the side of this staircase – about 8 or 10, maybe. I’m really curious as to what they say, but fear we’ll need a pause button to work them out! Mr. Ro, helpful soul that he is, said he knew what they said: “Watch your step.”
14. All the Dwarves have long hair done up in various ways. Only Thorin, Fili and Kili have theirs partially pulled back and held with some kind of silver-looking hair clip. From the back, ignoring colour, the hairstyles of those three look pretty similar. And does anyone else have occasional trouble telling apart Kili and Thorin when the action sequences get going fast? There’s clearly some family resemblance there. (Ha! Managed to work Thorin’s hair into this thread.)
15. Finally, this is where maybe I’m slow on the uptake. It just finally occurred to me last night what Fili and Kili are up to with Bilbo just before the trolls. When Kili says “It’s perfectly safe! We’ll be right behind you,” he says it with the same mock-innocence with which he delivered his lines earlier about the noises Bilbo had heard coming from heaps of bloodthirsty Orcs. He and Fili are just having Bilbo on there and are hoping for a bit of entertainment. Hence them disappearing the second Bilbo steps forward muttering about owls. Fili and Kili are probably in the bushes, sniggering the whole time at Bilbo dodging trolls and trying to rescue ponies, while they enjoy their stew. That explains why, as soon as there’s trouble, Kili immediately pops out of the bushes with all the bravado of youth to rescue Bilbo; Fili shows up a minute later because he has (much more sensibly) run back to enlist the help of the others. I wonder if they ever had to own up to Thorin that it was their idea to send Bilbo in to the trolls? That ought at least to elicit another scornful “You know nothing of the world!”.


entmaiden
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Jan 24 2013, 11:50pm

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"Mind the step"? ;)

I think Mr. Ro needs to see the movie again just to be sure!


EyeRock
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Jan 24 2013, 11:57pm

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At number 5, it's Bifur who keeps pushing Bombur along the trail to rivendell, not Bofur. He seems strangely aware of his surroundings here, but I guess you don't need the brightest mind to notice a big tub of lard blocking your way.


Aragalen the Green
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Jan 24 2013, 11:57pm

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7. Saruman’s line at the White Council: (approximately) “…who calls himself a necromancer…”. Now this is interesting: what evidence is there that said being (?) “calls himself” such? Has someone actually spoken with him? Radagast surely didn’t hear that spooky shape holler out “I AM A NECROMANCER! MUAHAHAHA!”, did he?

If I recall correctly:
Radagast tells Gandalf he sees a Necromancer. Then at the White Council Gandalf tells Saruman about the woodsmen speaking of a Necromancer living in Dol Guldur...Saraman says something about "this Necromancer...is nothing more than a man..."

I find it interesting that it is referred to as "a Necromancer" not "The Necromancer". Interesting too that Radagast knows what a Necromancer is (and the other Wizards do too) and seem familiar with the term...and that Saruman has a ready explanation.

I also remember (oh, years ago) when I first read the Hobbit and asking my mother what a Necromancer was. She made me look it up in either a dictionary or encyclopedia, but I did find it (no internet in 1970!).


There it is: dwarves are not heroes, but calculating folk with a great idea of the value of money; some are tricky and treacherous and pretty bad lots; some are not, but are decent enough people like Thorin and Company, if you don't expect too much.


(This post was edited by Aragalen the Green on Jan 25 2013, 12:00am)


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Jan 25 2013, 12:04am

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About this...


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7. Saruman’s line at the White Council: (approximately) “…who calls himself a necromancer…”. Now this is interesting: what evidence is there that said being (?) “calls himself” such? Has someone actually spoken with him? Radagast surely didn’t hear that spooky shape holler out “I AM A NECROMANCER! MUAHAHAHA!”, did he?



Would it be wrong to say a little bird told him? Angelic

(It's possibly an indication that Saruman knows more about this Dark Mystery Man than he has told the White Council, and which he has kept from them until now.)

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Aragalen the Green
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Jan 25 2013, 12:13am

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I looked it up on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necromancy

Necromancy is a term that has a very long history, and it a "form of magic involving communication with the deceased...either by summoning their spirit as an apparition or raising them bodily--for the purpose of divination".

So Radagast describes the Necromancer as one who can raise the spirits of the dead, as seen by the wraith Witch-King he fights in Dol Guldur.


There it is: dwarves are not heroes, but calculating folk with a great idea of the value of money; some are tricky and treacherous and pretty bad lots; some are not, but are decent enough people like Thorin and Company, if you don't expect too much.


Kimtc
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Jan 25 2013, 1:34am

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My assumption is that Thorin, Fili and Kili all have the same hair clip, probably some attempt on the part of the hair/costume designers to connect them in some way. I haven't seen them up close, just my wild stab in the dark. It might be possible that there are other things about their hair and costuming that connect them as family, and we just haven't seen it. I mean, besides not making them unattractive.


florian
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Jan 25 2013, 1:49am

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The backstory I gathered from the movie companion books was that Thorin raised/helped raise his nephews so perhaps he fixed their hair in the same style he did his own. Thorin doesn't look like a fussy, sitting around braiding the kids' hair sort of uncle.Tongue


marillaraina
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Jan 25 2013, 1:49am

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That explains why, as soon as there’s trouble, Kili immediately pops out of the bushes with all the bravado of youth to rescue Bilbo; Fili shows up a minute later because he has (much more sensibly) run back to enlist the help of the others. I wonder if they ever had to own up to Thorin that it was their idea to send Bilbo in to the trolls? That ought at least to elicit another scornful “You know nothing of the world!”.


Considering how quickly the rest of the company showed up(they were already moving behind Kili in tne background when he finishes saying "drop him", you can see them in the background), I'm pretty sure Fili went back to get the rest of the company before Kili jumped out, so I'd say it was more likely they saw Bilbo getting into trouble, Kili stayed behind to keep an eye and Fili went back to get reinforcements.

Other than that I think it's probably fairly likely it went how you describe, though I'm not sure. I do think they could have been honest in what they were saying, I mean, they aren't the sharpest tools in the shed and don't have any real experience, they may have entirely believed what they were saying to him and I mean they did manage to lose a bunch of ponies when they were supposed to watching, it seems like they can be easily distracted, so I can imagine them getting distracted easily by their stew while imagining their burglar would be fine, I mean it's what burglars do after all. LOL Like if there are keys there must be a door and how wizards are always killing dragons. :D


Ziggy Stardust
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Jan 25 2013, 1:50am

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I've only seen it twice!Frown I want to see it again!
It's interesting. One doesn't see everything on the first few viewings. I always notice new things for the first time whenever I watch The Lord of the Rings I expect it to be the same for The Hobbit.


dernwyn
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Jan 25 2013, 1:53am

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I think that's Smaug's ear, picking up the faint "knocking" of the thrush.

When his eye is revealed, the right side of it looks like the part which would be close to the nose, still hidden.

Check it out, in your next viewing! Wink


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Kimtc
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Jan 25 2013, 2:00am

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Well, gee, I'll just have to go see it again. Poor me!


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I think that's Smaug's ear, picking up the faint "knocking" of the thrush.

When his eye is revealed, the right side of it looks like the part which would be close to the nose, still hidden.

Check it out, in your next viewing! Wink

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Kimtc
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Jan 25 2013, 2:04am

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So the takeaway is the dwarves with the fanciest hair had moms who groomed them. [In reply to] Can't Post

Clearly Dori and Nori's mom put in overtime on them, and just gave up by the time Ori came along.


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The backstory I gathered from the movie companion books was that Thorin raised/helped raise his nephews so perhaps he fixed their hair in the same style he did his own. Thorin doesn't look like a fussy, sitting around braiding the kids' hair sort of uncle.Tongue



Aragalen the Green
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Jan 25 2013, 2:10am

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4. Something about the Wargs’ heads strikes me as catlike. I think it’s because they are so broad. Canids tend to have narrower ones.

I think it is their noses as well, they don't look wolf-like. Kind of stretched back, not really like a cat's either, just not right.


There it is: dwarves are not heroes, but calculating folk with a great idea of the value of money; some are tricky and treacherous and pretty bad lots; some are not, but are decent enough people like Thorin and Company, if you don't expect too much.


Aragalen the Green
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Jan 25 2013, 2:25am

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Not about Thorin's hair, actually! But it is so cool....

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2. The bird that tells Radagast about the Necromancer is an American robin (I’ve seen it pointed out elsewhere that it is a robin, but both the UK and New Zealand have unrelated species that are also called robins). Now, I find this American robin to be particularly out of place: they are native to North America, so not only are there none in the UK (and so should be none in Middle-earth), but there are none in NZ either (so no inspiration for them being in New Zealand-flavoured Middle-earth).

I notice there are a couple references to foods found in the Americas, such as potatoes (The Lord of the Rings books and movies); corn/maize (FotR movie); tomatoes (AUJ and FotR movies) and I believe there are bell peppers in Bilbo's pantry (AUJ).


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3. Azog’s white Warg, as has been noted elsewhere I think, is indeed female. The Warg that Kili shoots as per Thorin’s silent instruction (while the company hides below the rock that the Warg and its rider are on) is clearly male.

Um, I thought so too--wow, obviously male!--but I think it is actually the Orc's other foot. Blush


There it is: dwarves are not heroes, but calculating folk with a great idea of the value of money; some are tricky and treacherous and pretty bad lots; some are not, but are decent enough people like Thorin and Company, if you don't expect too much.


ryouko
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Jan 25 2013, 2:38am

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I think that Dori and Nori do their own hair. When they were younger, they probably had Ori's haircut and decided that they'd braid their own, rather than have dear old mum do it. Laugh


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Clearly Dori and Nori's mom put in overtime on them, and just gave up by the time Ori came along.


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The backstory I gathered from the movie companion books was that Thorin raised/helped raise his nephews so perhaps he fixed their hair in the same style he did his own. Thorin doesn't look like a fussy, sitting around braiding the kids' hair sort of uncle.Tongue




Kirly
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Jan 25 2013, 3:35am

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I saw a picture of Fili in full costume and realized that my hair is about that same color and about that same amount of wave/curl. weird.

Someone wondered (someplace) if anyone confuses Fili with Thorin during the action shots. I do! I know their costumes are different but when it's moving that fast, it can get difficult to tell the two dark haired hunk of dwarves apart. if it's not close enough, i can't see the fur on Thorin's coat.

i get the impression that there are a number of women here who really like the look of the three "royal" dwarves (Thorin, Fili, Kili). And, i also get the impression that a goodly number of us aren't high school girls ooohing and ahing over the latest rock star. So, my question is, do you normally like men with long wild hair and rugged good looks? or, is it a rare occasion? I'm almost embarrassed to admit that i actually find that unorthodox, almost rebellious appearance attractive. totally impractical in the real world, imo. otoh, i guess a professional middle aged woman like myself could have eye candy on her arm. lol

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Kirly
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Jan 25 2013, 3:38am

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That's part of their attractiveness! they aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer but they are wicked with their weapons and fabulous to look at!

i never thought i'd find the dwarves attractive. peter jackson is a genius!

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Ataahua
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Jan 25 2013, 3:54am

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as he exhales gustily to blow the gold coins away as he moves. But check it again, by all means! Cool

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Kimtc
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Jan 25 2013, 4:00am

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Yes, largely composed of mature, literary women who probably read the "Outlander" series as non-fiction. The discussion of hot dwarves at the DragonCon TORn panel was quite robust (and this was before the movie came out). We are probably the same group who acted like this over Aragorn back in the day. But, you know, you can only be geeky so much. Sometimes you just have to break it up with some fangirl--oops, fanwoman silliness. And remember, there are still more to come--Thranduil, Bard, a younger Legolas who oddly looks older, even Beorn, who so far is a total mystery. The guys only get Tauriel!


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i get the impression that there are a number of women here who really like the look of the three "royal" dwarves (Thorin, Fili, Kili). And, i also get the impression that a goodly number of us aren't high school girls ooohing and ahing over the latest rock star. So, my question is, do you normally like men with long wild hair and rugged good looks? or, is it a rare occasion? I'm almost embarrassed to admit that i actually find that unorthodox, almost rebellious appearance attractive. totally impractical in the real world, imo. otoh, i guess a professional middle aged woman like myself could have eye candy on her arm. lol

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marillaraina
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Jan 25 2013, 4:30am

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Someone wondered (someplace) if anyone confuses Fili with Thorin during the action shots. I do! I know their costumes are different but when it's moving that fast, it can get difficult to tell the two dark haired hunk of dwarves apart. if it's not close enough, i can't see the fur on Thorin's coat.


You mean Kili. :) Kili is the dark haired dwarf who looks similar to Thorin.


Old Toby
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Jan 25 2013, 5:08am

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He lets out a huge exhale...which would be hard to do through his ear, I would imagine! Wink

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swordwhale
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Jan 25 2013, 5:19am

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2.American robin... um, it's a member of the thrush family! I thought too it seemed odd to see such a familiar critter in... Middle Earth?!?!?

4.Wargs: in the art book, much is made of the wargs being based on wolves. I don't see this in the final product. Modern audiences don't do Big Bad Wolf any more, Wolf is more a symbol of the vanishing wild. The wargs seem to echo a lot of hyena design (hyenas are NOT in the canid predator line, but in the felid line) (suborder feliforms of the Carnivora). I also went..." what else does that look like???" and found: Andrewsarchus (totally sounds like: Andy Serkis)... a member of the clade Mesonychia, order Artiodactyla, lived in the Eocene, and was indeed the size of the wargs in the film. It had small hooves where most predators have claws. Look up images of it, it's precisely a warg!

6. I found it odd that it is Bofur (not line of Durin, some miner from waytheheck out there in the boonies) who seconds Dwalin's question "should we follow it or no?" Of course Thorin was saying nothing, he knew where Gandalf was leading them and he didn't like it.

Radagast surely didn’t hear that spooky shape holler out “I AM A NECROMANCER! MUAHAHAHA!”, did he? LaughLaughLaughLaugh

10. When they stop for the head-count after escaping Goblin-town, and discover Bilbo missing, Kili looks wildly around for Bilbo – but is looking at the ground, as if Bilbo might be a lost bag or package that someone dropped. LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh It's a Kili thing. Bless that lad...

Thorin... hair.... majestic. Some day, majestic hair will be back in fashion for males in our own culture. (So Tired of Shaved Heads...)Tongue

15. SlySlySlySlySlySlySlySly that's what I thought!

Go outside and play...


swordwhale
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Jan 25 2013, 5:21am

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Not about Thorin's hair, actually! But it is so cool....

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2. The bird that tells Radagast about the Necromancer is an American robin (I’ve seen it pointed out elsewhere that it is a robin, but both the UK and New Zealand have unrelated species that are also called robins). Now, I find this American robin to be particularly out of place: they are native to North America, so not only are there none in the UK (and so should be none in Middle-earth), but there are none in NZ either (so no inspiration for them being in New Zealand-flavoured Middle-earth).

I notice there are a couple references to foods found in the Americas, such as potatoes (The Lord of the Rings books and movies); corn/maize (FotR movie); tomatoes (AUJ and FotR movies) and I believe there are bell peppers in Bilbo's pantry (AUJ).


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3. Azog’s white Warg, as has been noted elsewhere I think, is indeed female. The Warg that Kili shoots as per Thorin’s silent instruction (while the company hides below the rock that the Warg and its rider are on) is clearly male.

Um, I thought so too--wow, obviously male!--but I think it is actually the Orc's other foot. Blush


Um, that tobacco everyone is puffing in their pipes, yup, didn't have that before the colonies.

Go outside and play...


Old Toby
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Jan 25 2013, 5:24am

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That book's been sitting on my desk for far too long then! LOL! You know, it seems that his father didn't get into a whole lot of fancy braiding either, if I'm remembering right (hard to say, since most of the shots of Thrain had Thorin somewhere in them, and guess which one I was focused on?). It makes sense if he helped raise Fili and Kili that they too would go for the longer hair look, although Fili evidently did enjoy his braids. Kili seems to take after Uncle Thorin: can't be bothered with all the fussing.

"Age is always advancing and I'm fairly sure it's up to no good." Harry Dresden (Jim Butcher)


Aragalen the Green
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Jan 25 2013, 5:25am

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Good one, I forgot about that! Assuming it's Nicotiana.

There it is: dwarves are not heroes, but calculating folk with a great idea of the value of money; some are tricky and treacherous and pretty bad lots; some are not, but are decent enough people like Thorin and Company, if you don't expect too much.


swordwhale
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Jan 25 2013, 5:26am

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That's part of their attractiveness! they aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer but they are wicked with their weapons and fabulous to look at!

i never thought i'd find the dwarves attractive. peter jackson is a genius!


Elves, it was always about the elves... durin you PJ!!!

And then there's Bofur. Itotally agree with a young lady who posted a clip of James Nesbitt wryly noting that "you go into the makeup trailer looking like George Clooney, and come out looking like Bofur"... young lady posted: Bofur> George Clooney.

I can't figure it out, is it the hat? I um, yeah, I um... yeah... eat your heart out George.

Go outside and play...


Old Toby
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Jan 25 2013, 5:29am

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That's part of their attractiveness! they aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer but they are wicked with their weapons and fabulous to look at!

i never thought i'd find the dwarves attractive. peter jackson is a genius!


Elves, it was always about the elves... durin you PJ!!!

And then there's Bofur. Itotally agree with a young lady who posted a clip of James Nesbitt wryly noting that "you go into the makeup trailer looking like George Clooney, and come out looking like Bofur"... young lady posted: Bofur> George Clooney.

I can't figure it out, is it the hat? I um, yeah, I um... yeah... eat your heart out George.



Personally I'd much rather have dinner with Bofur!!!

"Age is always advancing and I'm fairly sure it's up to no good." Harry Dresden (Jim Butcher)


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Jan 25 2013, 5:32am

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male eye candy... [In reply to] Can't Post

"i get the impression that there are a number of women here who really like the look of the three "royal" dwarves (Thorin, Fili, Kili). And, i also get the impression that a goodly number of us aren't high school girls ooohing and ahing over the latest rock star. So, my question is, do you normally like men with long wild hair and rugged good looks? or, is it a rare occasion? I'm almost embarrassed to admit that i actually find that unorthodox, almost rebellious appearance attractive. totally impractical in the real world, imo. otoh, i guess a professional middle aged woman like myself could have eye candy on her arm. lol "

I guess I've always been a fan of the "fantasy archetype", wild horse mane, rugged good looks, piercing hawklike gaze, clothing that looks like it would survive a year in the wild... can't stand suits. Maybe it's just me. No wait, my tumblr feed is full of women with the same problem.

What's interesting is, they are not all ooooohing and ahhhhhing over the three "royals". There are many of the others that have a fan base. Bofur and Ori especially. I happen to find Bofur ridiculously attractive... ???? I asked myself ????? Perhaps it's the grin, or the crinkly eyes. Or maybe it's the memes a few women have posted like "you call him in the middle of the night and he says 'nice to hear your voice"... or... "all the fangirls are going crazy over Fili and Kili, he's happy for them..." in other words, they're over sparkly and into real character.

It's the hat.

Go outside and play...


swordwhale
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Jan 25 2013, 5:34am

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Someone wondered (someplace) if anyone confuses Fili with Thorin during the action shots. I do! I know their costumes are different but when it's moving that fast, it can get difficult to tell the two dark haired hunk of dwarves apart. if it's not close enough, i can't see the fur on Thorin's coat.


You mean Kili. :) Kili is the dark haired dwarf who looks similar to Thorin.


someone noted that is was easy to remember which was which in this year's MerryandPippin offering: Kili the Kid (youngest of the bretheren).

Go outside and play...


AinurOlorin
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Jan 25 2013, 6:27am

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Totally disagree on the Wargs. While it might have been better to have them more grey or black, predominantly, they DEFINITELY had a wolvish look to them [In reply to] Can't Post

They were clearly not proper wolves, by any stretch, but seeing them, Wolves (with a hint of something feline) were what most came to mind, if the wolves were abnormally large, evil and demonically posessed, as wargs are. They fit the look, if not of true wolves, then at least of many of the werewolf types we have often seen in film. The Snout may have been a little wide, but the setting of the eyes and the forward shape of the head was generally right. I did not get the hyena impression that the "wargs" in The Two Towers gave off. I was very pleased with the improvement. I can buy these wargs as giant, demon inhabited wolves in a way I simply could not begin to do with the Towers variant.

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2.American robin... um, it's a member of the thrush family! I thought too it seemed odd to see such a familiar critter in... Middle Earth?!?!?

4.Wargs: in the art book, much is made of the wargs being based on wolves. I don't see this in the final product. Modern audiences don't do Big Bad Wolf any more, Wolf is more a symbol of the vanishing wild. The wargs seem to echo a lot of hyena design (hyenas are NOT in the canid predator line, but in the felid line) (suborder feliforms of the Carnivora). I also went..." what else does that look like???" and found: Andrewsarchus (totally sounds like: Andy Serkis)... a member of the clade Mesonychia, order Artiodactyla, lived in the Eocene, and was indeed the size of the wargs in the film. It had small hooves where most predators have claws. Look up images of it, it's precisely a warg!

6. I found it odd that it is Bofur (not line of Durin, some miner from waytheheck out there in the boonies) who seconds Dwalin's question "should we follow it or no?" Of course Thorin was saying nothing, he knew where Gandalf was leading them and he didn't like it.

Radagast surely didn’t hear that spooky shape holler out “I AM A NECROMANCER! MUAHAHAHA!”, did he? LaughLaughLaughLaugh

10. When they stop for the head-count after escaping Goblin-town, and discover Bilbo missing, Kili looks wildly around for Bilbo – but is looking at the ground, as if Bilbo might be a lost bag or package that someone dropped. LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh It's a Kili thing. Bless that lad...

Thorin... hair.... majestic. Some day, majestic hair will be back in fashion for males in our own culture. (So Tired of Shaved Heads...)Tongue

15. SlySlySlySlySlySlySlySly that's what I thought!


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Jan 25 2013, 6:41am

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I must return to LOTR and eyeball those wargs again... [In reply to] Can't Post

it's been awhile...

I'm fairly sure the designers were thinking hugemongous demonic mutated corrupted wolf (most of the early designs were exceedingly wolfish), much like the orcs are mutated corrupted Elves.

I'm still rooting for Andrewsarchus, it's just such a cool critter...

Go outside and play...


Rostron2
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Jan 25 2013, 8:07am

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2. The bird that tells Radagast about the Necromancer is an American robin (I’ve seen it pointed out elsewhere that it is a robin, but both the UK and New Zealand have unrelated species that are also called robins). Now, I find this American robin to be particularly out of place: they are native to North America, so not only are there none in the UK (and so should be none in Middle-earth), but there are none in NZ either (so no inspiration for them being in New Zealand-flavoured Middle-earth).

Strictly speaking, there is no North America in the Third Age nor NZ for that matter....Species migrated later on after the Fourth Age, I suppose.

7. Saruman’s line at the White Council: (approximately) “…who calls himself a necromancer…”. Now this is interesting: what evidence is there that said being (?) “calls himself” such? Has someone actually spoken with him? Radagast surely didn’t hear that spooky shape holler out “I AM A NECROMANCER! MUAHAHAHA!”, did he?

Come on, they read it in a magazine: Legendary Sorcerors of the Third Age. More seriously, I suppose you can put it down to some kind of lore. I need to look and see how long the Necromancer was around before the events depicted.


Roheryn
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Jan 25 2013, 9:28am

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he's been saying he needs to get his eyes checked. Smile

I thought I was doing pretty good getting him along to his #4, so I may have to wait til the DVD is out (late March?!?) before we figure those runes out.


Roheryn
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Jan 25 2013, 9:32am

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He tries! :-) [In reply to] Can't Post

(*waves hi to Mr. Ro*)

Of course! That little bird sure gets around...


Roheryn
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Jan 25 2013, 9:35am

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I was trying to keep that straight and you're right, of course. Bofur is, I believe, right behind Bifur. Still think the pushing's funny. I'm not convinced Bifur's not bright, he's just a bit in his own world. He's quick to the attack, though, when required!


Roheryn
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Jan 25 2013, 9:44am

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I earned a free movie with last night's viewing, so naturally I'm headed back as soon as I can!

I thought it interesting, too, that the Council called him "a" necromancer, suggesting maybe that there are or have been or at least could be some other necromancers. You know, in the book, there isn't any explanation of why he's called the Necromancer. Just what has he done (in the book) to earn that title? I don't think there's ever even any description of Sauron engaging in necromancy in LOTR; maybe there is somewhere else? My resident loremaster is asleep so can't ask him right now.


Roheryn
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Jan 25 2013, 9:55am

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well, they must have had to figure it out on their own. At least, Fili's figured out the braiding thing. I don't think Kili's quite got there yet, bless him.

I have to sympathize with the 'Ri brothers' mom. One just doesn't have any energy left by the time #3 comes along. Poor Ori. Maybe eventually big bro Dori will teach him a thing or two about hair. Or maybe Ori will hit a streak of teenage rebellion and try to one-up Nori's starfish 'do: the Octopus 'Do!


Roheryn
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Jan 25 2013, 10:00am

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Considering how quickly the rest of the company showed up(they were already moving behind Kili in tne background when he finishes saying "drop him", you can see them in the background),

Really? 11 viewings and I've missed the rest of the company behind Kili right then? LOL!!! I've never been able to take my eyes off Kili as he flourishes his sword and says "DROP HIM!" with that adorable fierceness. Guess I've still got something to look for in #12!


Roheryn
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Jan 25 2013, 10:05am

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well, you-knows? Wink LOL! Might need a pause button to see whether that Warg has an Orc foot where his you-know should be...


imin
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Jan 25 2013, 10:08am

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They were clearly not proper wolves, by any stretch, but seeing them, Wolves (with a hint of something feline) were what most came to mind, if the wolves were abnormally large, evil and demonically posessed, as wargs are. They fit the look, if not of true wolves, then at least of many of the werewolf types we have often seen in film. The Snout may have been a little wide, but the setting of the eyes and the forward shape of the head was generally right. I did not get the hyena impression that the "wargs" in The Two Towers gave off. I was very pleased with the improvement. I can buy these wargs as giant, demon inhabited wolves in a way I simply could not begin to do with the Towers variant.

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The eyes are too far apart and the ears are coming off the top/side of the head sticking outwards, where as a wolf they are much more on top.

Generally they are a better effort that LOTR where they were terrible, still not perfect though and would have liked something more wolf like as body shape wise they are not a wolf, their head is probably the most wolf like but still not there.

Saying all that i doubt they could make it look just like a wolf as people would be up in arms saying how the film portrays wolves in a bad light etc etc. So they had to do something different, plus its not meant to be a full on wolf but a warg - though from the books it seems they are meant to be very similar looking/the same.

For me they are not a wolf/warg but some kinda wolf/hyena hybrid which is essentially a PJ warg. Could have been better but some things were really good about them - their mouths, in particular the teeth and gingiva were very well done and glistened like normal gingiva does.


Roheryn
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Jan 25 2013, 10:18am

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I love how this thread gets hijacked by hair. Smile

I wonder if replicas of that clip will ever be available?

Ummm, yes, I certainly can't speak for all of us but I know a fair few of us who are captivated by Thorin's manliness (and occasionally by Fili and Kili too) are in a slightly older age bracket. Have to admit when I was in high school I happily drooled over the latest rock stars...and the longer the hair, the better. Still like long hair, but am so not interested (naturally, now I'm older) in the mindless self-obsessed rock star attitude now. Doesn't matter what looks go along with that attitude either, it's just not attractive. On the other hand, let's just say Thorin presents himself well in more ways than one. Wink


dernwyn
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Jan 25 2013, 11:21am

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Adding one more thought... [In reply to] Can't Post

In the book, right after they are landed at Carrock, don't they all go down to the river and...ah...bathe? Angelic

I wonder what kind of scene will start DoS...


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Angharad73
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Jan 25 2013, 11:34am

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I like scruffy men, I freely admit it. Elves and all that are nice to look at (Legolas, for example is sooo pretty), but when it comes down to it, I'll take a man with crazy hair and stubble on his chin, thank you very much. Cool All that prettiness looks too good for daily wear and tear, if you know what I mean.

In LOTR I preferred the likes of Aragon, Boromir and Faramir over the likes of Legolas and all the rest of the elves, because they have beards,stubble, look unwashed and have shaggy hair at times.The royal dwarf trio does appeal to me - Thorin most of all, because he is a bit older than the other two and more mature - for those kind of reasons as well.

Bofur, I think, has the added bonus of being very good-humoured and funny - isn't a great sense of humour something that is very desirable in a man? And then there's the hat, of course - not everyone can pull off wearing that sort of hat every day. I also rather like Dwalin, I must confess. Must be the tattoos... Angelic


Alcarcalime
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Jan 25 2013, 11:35am

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2. The bird that tells Radagast about the Necromancer is an American robin (I’ve seen it pointed out elsewhere that it is a robin, but both the UK and New Zealand have unrelated species that are also called robins). Now, I find this American robin to be particularly out of place: they are native to North America, so not only are there none in the UK (and so should be none in Middle-earth), but there are none in NZ either (so no inspiration for them being in New Zealand-flavoured Middle-earth).


When I saw the American Robin, I said to myself *someone must have told an American CGI artist to draw a bird, so he drew one familiar to an American!* The sound was American Robin sound, so the Americans in the Sound Dept. had the correct bird sound ready.




Elvanui
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Jan 25 2013, 11:57am

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Yes they do! [In reply to] Can't Post

'They all took off their clothes and bathed in the stream.' It's one of my 'What are you looking forward to in the next film' scenes. Wink It's canon!

"...under all there was a great joy: a fountain of mirth enough to set a kingdom laughing, were it to gush forth."


marillaraina
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Jan 25 2013, 1:44pm

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Considering how quickly the rest of the company showed up(they were already moving behind Kili in tne background when he finishes saying "drop him", you can see them in the background),

Really? 11 viewings and I've missed the rest of the company behind Kili right then? LOL!!! I've never been able to take my eyes off Kili as he flourishes his sword and says "DROP HIM!" with that adorable fierceness. Guess I've still got something to look for in #12!


I only noticed it because I've watched the gifset of him flourishing his sword with adorable, yet sexy, fierceness about twice that much. :D Actually I think you can really see them just before Bilbo gets thrown at him but they'd obviously been moving into position. But you can see the bushes moving behind him during the "drop him" part.


Retro315
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Jan 25 2013, 1:56pm

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One thing I've noticed, between re-watches, since I have a huge poster of Middle-earth on my wall; when Gandalf begins telling Bilbo and the dwarves about the wizards, they're barely out of the Shire, possibly just leaving nearing, or leaving Bree (but presumably not yet to Weathertop).

Simultaneously, Radagast is at Rhosgobel. Radagast then travels (quite far) to Dol Guldur.

The distance from Bree to the Trollshaws is not THAT FAR DIFFERENT the distances from Rhosgobel to Trollshaws. And Radagast is traveling faster than the leisurely pace of Gandalf on a pony, so south, then north again, over river and mountain aren't gigantic time obstacles.

If the entire trek from The Shire to Rivendell took some serious time, Radagast could've made it. The dilemma comes from the passage of time not really being shown all that much - perhaps it'll be more overt in the EE.


bborchar
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Jan 25 2013, 3:21pm

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I know what I like... [In reply to] Can't Post

...authoritative men (in fantasy). There's something attractive about someone with a commanding presence...throw in a nice accent, and I melt (previous crushes in included Sean Connery, Patrick Stewart, Colin Firth, Hugh Jackman and Russell Crowe). I can go for rugged or refined...as long as the character seems assured of himself. But he also has to have a soft side, even if is only for a moment or two. They also have to be intelligent...I went for that in real life ;) It's all in fun, though. And I freely talk about my crushes to my husband, lol.


Lily Fairbairn
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Jan 25 2013, 3:49pm

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When we're talking about Hair of LotR... [In reply to] Can't Post

...let's not forget to include Eomer, who's not only Hair but Heir. Tongue

I'll go back to contemplating the royal dwarf trio now, never mind that RA was born the year I married, sigh.




Old Toby
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Jan 25 2013, 3:49pm

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On hair hijacking and Thorinitis in general [In reply to] Can't Post

yeah, I'm with you on this one. I never thought about it, but I think you're right that Thorin probably appeals to an older age bracket (such as myself, for example). And Fili and Kili probably to a younger one. And although we may talk endlessly and happily about his glorious hair, it's more about how he presents himself, as you put it. He has a bearing that sets him apart from the other dwarves. Besides his table manners, the tone of his voice and his overall good looks, he has an air of quiet confidence as of one who is used to being in charge without being overbearing or arrogant; one who leads by example, who others follow not because they have to, but because they want to (reflecting on Balin's words, "Here is one I could follow. Here is one I could call King.") His little talk with Balin about why the others came when he called shows, to me, what he values even more than fighting skills - loyalty, honor, a willing heart. What's not to love about this guy? (At least in this film!)

Okay. You can now return to your regularly scheduled programming! Sorry for this diversion....had to have my Thorin Moment for the day! Smile

"Age is always advancing and I'm fairly sure it's up to no good." Harry Dresden (Jim Butcher)


andwise
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Jan 25 2013, 3:55pm

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11 times....!!? [In reply to] Can't Post

Well done for that! Excellent observations roheryn I hope you can talk Mr Ro in to one more as i may ask Mrs andwise to allow one last one Wink as for the necromancer issue,whether its A necromancer or THE necromancer I suppose it may have been considered too complicated or time consuming to explain where the name came from and who gave it to him...not sure,don't think it matters too much......I DO know though,that when I was 17 I was going to call my thrash metal band necromancer-sourced from the hobbit-and write it on our debut album cover using the same font as 'hawk the slayer'was written in......it never came to passFrown


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Angharad73
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Jan 25 2013, 3:56pm

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Oh dear... [In reply to] Can't Post

...I forgot Eomer! How could I forget him? Yeah, he's on my list, too.

Now back to ogling dwarves...


arithmancer
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Jan 25 2013, 4:18pm

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Why chronological? [In reply to] Can't Post

It does not seem to me that we need to consider that Radagast's first appearance occurs, timewise, simultaneously with Gandalf's first mention of him. Gandalf describes him as being a guardian over the Greenwood, and so I took the subsequent scene to be an illustration of Gandalf's words, but not necessarily taking place simultaneously. It could have been earlier, but showing him in real time (say, fording the River Isen with his bunnies, or whatever other thing he might have been doing at that precise time) would not be showing us what Gandalf is telling us about him.


Brethil
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Jan 25 2013, 4:49pm

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Moving Bombur along [In reply to] Can't Post

Think its because Bombur shows an interest in that first batch of lichen and whether its edible....! Everyone on poor Bombur's case (Stop it! You've had plenty!)

...she took the point at once, but she also took the spoons.


Alassëa Eruvande
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Jan 25 2013, 4:50pm

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Whoa. Just imagine Thorin's wet hair...

I'm sure Phillipa worked hard for us grrls.
But I'm also sure PJ put the kibosh on it. Waa. Unimpressed

Official Hijacking-Of-The-Thread-With-Thorin's-Hair: Wet Hair



I am SMAUG! I kill when I wish! I am strong, strong, STRONG!
My armor is like tenfold shields! My teeth like swords! My claws, spears!
The shock of my tail, a thunderbolt! My wings, a hurricane! And my breath, death!


Alassëa Eruvande
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Jan 25 2013, 4:57pm

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their mouths, in particular the teeth and gingiva were very well done and glistened like normal gingiva does.


Spoken like a true dental professional! Laugh



I am SMAUG! I kill when I wish! I am strong, strong, STRONG!
My armor is like tenfold shields! My teeth like swords! My claws, spears!
The shock of my tail, a thunderbolt! My wings, a hurricane! And my breath, death!


Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Jan 25 2013, 5:07pm

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never mind that RA was born the year I married, sigh.


I won't notice that RA was born the year you married and I won't notice that RA was born the year before my son was born and two years after my daughter was born!




Lily Fairbairn
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Jan 25 2013, 5:34pm

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We've developed excellent taste over the years, right? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 




Kimtc
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Jan 25 2013, 5:44pm

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Eomer's hair is nice [In reply to] Can't Post

Kind of a happy medium between scruffy "world of men" hair and elf hair. It's especially nice during the coronation scene at the end of ROTK. He cleaned up nicely.


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...let's not forget to include Eomer, who's not only Hair but Heir. Tongue



Kirly
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Jan 25 2013, 5:46pm

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yes, you are correct that I meant Kili. Thx // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 25 2013, 5:48pm

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Is there a photo of the hair clip? [In reply to] Can't Post

I never noticed the hair clip when I watched the movies, but I've been curious how Thorin keeps his hair out of his face and wondered if it was an artifact of having a wig that wouldn't work with real hair. I would love to see a picture of it, as I've been thinking of trying out Thorin's hair style myself. It's possible mine is too thick and curly/wavy for it to work, but it's worth a try. It's about the same length as Thorin's I think, and my beard is roughly the same length as his as well right now.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Kimtc
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Jan 25 2013, 5:50pm

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Can't say I disagree with him on this one. [In reply to] Can't Post

Those guys are wearing a lot of padding, and I don't think that would translate to seeing much skin. Unfortunately.


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Whoa. Just imagine Thorin's wet hair...

I'm sure Phillipa worked hard for us grrls.
But I'm also sure PJ put the kibosh on it. Waa. Unimpressed

Official Hijacking-Of-The-Thread-With-Thorin's-Hair: Wet Hair



Kirly
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Jan 25 2013, 5:56pm

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I have thoroughly enjoyed.... [In reply to] Can't Post

both all the hot men in LOTR and AUJ as well as everyone's responses here and all the hair threads.

i don't think i ever grew out of my liking long scruffy hair and a rugged man who could really save your life in a crisis. sigh.

and i still want that hair clip!

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Kirly
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Jan 25 2013, 5:58pm

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clips [In reply to] Can't Post

not sure about any photos online but Fili has two small ones in his beard and Thorin has two low on the back area and Kili has one high up in the back. you catch glimpses of them in the films. they'd go so perfectly in my hair.

My avatar photo is Lake Takepo in New Zealand's South Island. Taken by me in 2004 on a Red Carpet Tours LOTR Movie Location Tour. 'Twas the Vacation of a Lifetime!

pictures taken while on the tour are here:
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Alassëa Eruvande
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Jan 25 2013, 6:02pm

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To quote the esteemed Ataahua: [In reply to] Can't Post

"Pictures, or it never happened." Wink



I am SMAUG! I kill when I wish! I am strong, strong, STRONG!
My armor is like tenfold shields! My teeth like swords! My claws, spears!
The shock of my tail, a thunderbolt! My wings, a hurricane! And my breath, death!


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Jan 25 2013, 6:07pm

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Awesome Ro!! :D I'll have a few of my own to add [In reply to] Can't Post

as soon as I have time to type them up! AND I'll read through these more betterer later on... but I wanted to shout WOOHOO!!! Keep fanning those flames :D



First draft of TH:AUJ Geeky Observation List - updated list coming soon



sample

I'm SO HAPPY these new films take me back to that magical world!!



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TORn's Geeky Observations Lists (updated soon)



Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 25 2013, 6:22pm

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These are different from the braid ties, right? [In reply to] Can't Post

In this picture, you can clearly see Thorin with two braids in his hair, each tied with a silver thing at the end. Fili has them for his moustache and brains in his hair as well, while Kili doesn't seem to have any

http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/heirs-trio.jpg

Are the clips we're talking about different from these and not pictured in this photo? Something to hold the hair in the back?

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 25 2013, 6:25pm

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How can Thorin stand that hair in his face? [In reply to] Can't Post

Sure, it looks cool. But wouldn't it be distracting while trying to cleave a warg in two?

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 25 2013, 6:27pm

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You're asking for pictures of Thorin, I hope. [In reply to] Can't Post

And not asking for pictures of me.... right?

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Alassëa Eruvande
Valinor


Jan 25 2013, 6:50pm

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Yours, silly. [In reply to] Can't Post


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I've been thinking of trying out Thorin's hair style myself. It's possible mine is too thick and curly/wavy for it to work, but it's worth a try. It's about the same length as Thorin's I think, and my beard is roughly the same length as his as well right now.




I am SMAUG! I kill when I wish! I am strong, strong, STRONG!
My armor is like tenfold shields! My teeth like swords! My claws, spears!
The shock of my tail, a thunderbolt! My wings, a hurricane! And my breath, death!


MistyMountain
Lorien

Jan 25 2013, 6:55pm

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don't be shy [In reply to] Can't Post

I am sure we'd all be delighted to see a photo of you. I bet you'd make a great addition to a local RenFaire with your long locks and beard!

And RA must have found that long hair annoying. In the scene right after killing that warg (during the pre-Rivendell chase), you can see a lock of hair right across his eyes as they starting running away. I know that would drive ME crazy!


The Grey Elf
Grey Havens


Jan 25 2013, 6:56pm

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Wet Hair [In reply to] Can't Post

Will be the look to look out for in DOS -- unless the elves were also shipping blow dryers to Laketown in those apple barrels!


Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 25 2013, 7:17pm

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I can't believe I'm doing this... [In reply to] Can't Post

Here ya go:

http://i814.photobucket.com/...wwGullFeathers-1.jpg

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Roheryn
Grey Havens

Jan 25 2013, 7:20pm

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Yup. [In reply to] Can't Post

Similar style, but they're bigger, and the three royals use them to pull back a large handful of hair, in the back (so you can't see them from the front). I'm actually not sure Thorin always has one, but he does at least sometimes.


Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 25 2013, 7:24pm

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Ah, was that something younger Thorin wore in the prologue? [In reply to] Can't Post

I think I'm remembering something like that from the scenes of Thorin at Erebor. It's a cylindrical tie that you pull the hair through like the smaller ones in the photo I posted, right?

I am going to lose all my man cred if I keep posting about Thorin's hair.... it's all my friend's fault for saying she liked the way my hair looked down after my hair tie broke and I was looking for a backup. Of course I left it off the entire rest of the night!

I do notice one difference between Kili and Thorin is that Kili cuts his bangs while Thorin leaves them long and pulls them back with the rest of his hair.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


The Prancing Pony
Rivendell

Jan 25 2013, 7:35pm

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Keep thinking [In reply to] Can't Post

Great observations. This has once again become quite a hairy thread.

8. I wondered about Bilbo's intention to go back during the storm, too. He would be a fool of a Baggins to try and get back there after he has just been nearly crushed by a stone giant. But it was probably the only opportunity for him to try.

One thing I wondered about was, why did the dwarves change their plan and decided not to wait for Gandalf after leaving Rivendell?

"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."


Roheryn
Grey Havens

Jan 25 2013, 7:47pm

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Can't remember...maybe? [In reply to] Can't Post


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I think I'm remembering something like that from the scenes of Thorin at Erebor. It's a cylindrical tie that you pull the hair through like the smaller ones in the photo I posted, right?

Yes, it (well, they, becaue all three have them) looks like a bigger version of what Kili's got in his moustache/Thorin's got in his braids. I'm pretty sure Thorin's wearing his at some point later in the movie, because I remember thinking he must have just done his hair (so maybe at Rivendell, or just after??) (i.e., he didn't appear to be wearing it whenever I'd last noticed).


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Jan 25 2013, 7:51pm

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why do I think.... [In reply to] Can't Post


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I like scruffy men, I freely admit it. Elves and all that are nice to look at (Legolas, for example is sooo pretty), but when it comes down to it, I'll take a man with crazy hair and stubble on his chin, thank you very much. Cool All that prettiness looks too good for daily wear and tear, if you know what I mean.

In LOTR I preferred the likes of Aragon, Boromir and Faramir over the likes of Legolas and all the rest of the elves, because they have beards,stubble, look unwashed and have shaggy hair at times.The royal dwarf trio does appeal to me - Thorin most of all, because he is a bit older than the other two and more mature - for those kind of reasons as well.

Bofur, I think, has the added bonus of being very good-humoured and funny - isn't a great sense of humour something that is very desirable in a man? And then there's the hat, of course - not everyone can pull off wearing that sort of hat every day. I also rather like Dwalin, I must confess. Must be the tattoos... Angelic


Balin is completely adorable???????

Go outside and play...


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Jan 25 2013, 7:55pm

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tiiiiiiiiiiiiime streeeeeeeetch [In reply to] Can't Post


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One thing I've noticed, between re-watches, since I have a huge poster of Middle-earth on my wall; when Gandalf begins telling Bilbo and the dwarves about the wizards, they're barely out of the Shire, possibly just leaving nearing, or leaving Bree (but presumably not yet to Weathertop).

Simultaneously, Radagast is at Rhosgobel. Radagast then travels (quite far) to Dol Guldur.

The distance from Bree to the Trollshaws is not THAT FAR DIFFERENT the distances from Rhosgobel to Trollshaws. And Radagast is traveling faster than the leisurely pace of Gandalf on a pony, so south, then north again, over river and mountain aren't gigantic time obstacles.

If the entire trek from The Shire to Rivendell took some serious time, Radagast could've made it. The dilemma comes from the passage of time not really being shown all that much - perhaps it'll be more overt in the EE.


I think too that there is a glitch in the portrayal of time passage here (hard to do in a film that's already packed with detail).

For comparison, a typical winning Iditarod team (16 dogs, or pretty close to Radagast's team) does the 1100 mile journey in less than 9 days. 122 miles a day. With rests (often running as much as they rest). With a little wizard magic, they might be faster.

Or perhaps Raddy knows some secret "rabbit holes" like the ones in Rise of the Guardians!

Go outside and play...


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Jan 25 2013, 7:59pm

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [In reply to] Can't Post


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Whoa. Just imagine Thorin's wet hair...

I'm sure Phillipa worked hard for us grrls.
But I'm also sure PJ put the kibosh on it. Waa. Unimpressed

Official Hijacking-Of-The-Thread-With-Thorin's-Hair: Wet Hair


ShockedShockedShockedHeartHeartHeart

(Ok, back to our regularly scheduled prgramming)...

see? i can't even type...

Go outside and play...


Angharad73
Rohan

Jan 25 2013, 8:00pm

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...because he is? [In reply to] Can't Post

Balin often has such a cute expression, I think. that makes him very likeable. He looks kind and wise, and there is a certain twinkle in his eyes, isn't there?


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Jan 25 2013, 8:01pm

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the year... [In reply to] Can't Post


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never mind that RA was born the year I married, sigh.


I won't notice that RA was born the year you married and I won't notice that RA was born the year before my son was born and two years after my daughter was born!


sigh... dear sweet gentle, butt-kicking Balin, nice grandfatherly image, Santa with a mace... would love to have a long conversation... that's it...

Then I realize the actor is a year older than me....

To quote Captain Barbarwhatever from the first Pirates film... I feel... old.

Go outside and play...


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Jan 25 2013, 8:02pm

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true... [In reply to] Can't Post


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Those guys are wearing a lot of padding, and I don't think that would translate to seeing much skin. Unfortunately.


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Whoa. Just imagine Thorin's wet hair...

I'm sure Phillipa worked hard for us grrls.
But I'm also sure PJ put the kibosh on it. Waa. Unimpressed

Official Hijacking-Of-The-Thread-With-Thorin's-Hair: Wet Hair



Wet dwarves would just look too skinny and weird after all the bulky padded clothing etc...

Go outside and play...


Starling
Half-elven


Jan 25 2013, 8:02pm

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Gollum's hair is very pretty [In reply to] Can't Post

I particularly like it when he styles it in a comb-over, and then a few manly strands always escape. Gorgeous.


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Jan 25 2013, 8:05pm

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cool! [In reply to] Can't Post


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Keep playing with hair ideas. All the guys around here shave theirs short or bald... bleah. Now natural bald like Dwalin is something else.

Go outside and play...


Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Jan 25 2013, 8:08pm

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*snort* ;) / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Jan 25 2013, 8:10pm

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Woohoo! There you go! [In reply to] Can't Post

And isn't it a practical 'do, in keeping your hair out of your eyes?

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Jan 25 2013, 8:11pm

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But notice that his hair thinned out after a really bad perm... / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


Ataahua's stories


malla
Bree


Jan 25 2013, 8:19pm

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yeah....it's the riders foot [In reply to] Can't Post


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Um, I thought so too--wow, obviously male!--but I think it is actually the Orc's other foot


The first time I saw the scene, I thought it was....ummmm, how should I say...part of the warg's anatomy. But many viewings later...I realize it is just a foot belonging to the rider.


Tenna' ento lye omenta,
Malla


malla
Bree


Jan 25 2013, 8:37pm

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smacking myself on the forehead..... [In reply to] Can't Post


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The bird that tells Radagast about the Necromancer is an American robin (I’ve seen it pointed out elsewhere that it is a robin, but both the UK and New Zealand have unrelated species that are also called robins). Now, I find this American robin to be particularly out of place: they are native to North America, so not only are there none in the UK (and so should be none in Middle-earth), but there are none in NZ either (so no inspiration for them being in New Zealand-flavoured Middle-earth).



I noticed that the bird who talked to Radagst was a robin. I know it's an American Robin.
But I have to laugh at myself...knowing this...it didn't "click".....even after 34 viewings!...... *duhhhhhhhhh Tongue

Tenna' ento lye omenta,
Malla


malla
Bree


Jan 25 2013, 8:41pm

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nostril... [In reply to] Can't Post


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He lets out a huge exhale...which would be hard to do through his ear, I would imagine!



Although when Radagast is exhaling after taking a puff of Gandalf's "Old Toby", the smoke is coming out of his nostrils AND ears....lol


Tenna' ento lye omenta,
Malla


Brethil
Half-elven


Jan 25 2013, 8:54pm

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Plans change..... [In reply to] Can't Post

Guessing the change of plans is a bit of pique on part of Thorin, who has decided at that point to take back charge of direction after getting shoved, as it were, into Rivendell.

...she took the point at once, but she also took the spoons.


malla
Bree


Jan 25 2013, 8:56pm

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old??? [In reply to] Can't Post


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never mind that RA was born the year I married, sigh.


I won't notice that RA was born the year you married and I won't notice that RA was born the year before my son was born and two years after my daughter was born!


sigh... dear sweet gentle, butt-kicking Balin, nice grandfatherly image, Santa with a mace... would love to have a long conversation... that's it...


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Then I realize the actor is a year older than me....

To quote Captain Barbarwhatever from the first Pirates film... I feel... old.




You feel old??? At least you are younger than he is....I'm older than him.......

but age is only a number......at least that's what I hear...Wink

Tenna' ento lye omenta,
Malla


MistyMountain
Lorien

Jan 25 2013, 9:37pm

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all you need now... [In reply to] Can't Post

is to let the hair loose, wear some leather RenFaire clothing and carry an axe!


Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Jan 25 2013, 10:29pm

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Ha! [In reply to] Can't Post

I was 10 when Ken Stott was born!




Kirly
Lorien


Jan 25 2013, 10:30pm

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Bofur is fantastic! [In reply to] Can't Post

Part of his charm is his sense of humor - who doesn't like to laugh?? i love someone who can keep us laughing!
He's brave and strong and obviously capable - i mean, he's a Dwarf so you know he's good with his hands (uhm, uhoh).
Then there's the voice. the accent. i love the Irish accents! did you know that you can hear his voice and his accent in the dwarves singing of misty mountain?? it's clear and it's fantastic!

My avatar photo is Lake Takepo in New Zealand's South Island. Taken by me in 2004 on a Red Carpet Tours LOTR Movie Location Tour. 'Twas the Vacation of a Lifetime!

pictures taken while on the tour are here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Kirly7/LOTRNewZealandTour#


Alassëa Eruvande
Valinor


Jan 25 2013, 11:19pm

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Woo Hoo! [In reply to] Can't Post

There you are!
Now where can we find some metal braid thingies...

Smile



I am SMAUG! I kill when I wish! I am strong, strong, STRONG!
My armor is like tenfold shields! My teeth like swords! My claws, spears!
The shock of my tail, a thunderbolt! My wings, a hurricane! And my breath, death!


marillaraina
Rohan

Jan 26 2013, 12:40am

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It's all good for me [In reply to] Can't Post


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never mind that RA was born the year I married, sigh.


I won't notice that RA was born the year you married and I won't notice that RA was born the year before my son was born and two years after my daughter was born!


He and I are almost the same age. I'm single...he's single.... LOL


marillaraina
Rohan

Jan 26 2013, 12:42am

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Hair clips [In reply to] Can't Post

Kili and Fili seem to have matching hair clips. Watch the "At your service" bow scene and one can see they both have similar style hair clips.


Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 26 2013, 12:56am

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Aha! Thank you. [In reply to] Can't Post

Here's a good image of them:

http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/t28.jpg

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...

(This post was edited by Kassandros on Jan 26 2013, 12:57am)


Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 26 2013, 1:02am

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Practical, yes... [In reply to] Can't Post

But I'd like to try something with my hair down rather than tied in back... just without all the hair-in-my-face problems. So I was wondering if this style would do that for me.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Kirly
Lorien


Jan 26 2013, 2:35am

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Are you in NZ? [In reply to] Can't Post

that looks so familiar.... it's been a while but near that mirror lake area?

My avatar photo is Lake Takepo in New Zealand's South Island. Taken by me in 2004 on a Red Carpet Tours LOTR Movie Location Tour. 'Twas the Vacation of a Lifetime!

pictures taken while on the tour are here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Kirly7/LOTRNewZealandTour#


Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 26 2013, 3:25am

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It's Maine, actually. [In reply to] Can't Post

Swan's Island, Maine, United States.

Quite beautiful. Thats the Atlantic Ocean there, rather than a lake.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Kirly
Lorien


Jan 26 2013, 4:20am

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really??? compare... [In reply to] Can't Post

to this photo of new zealand. i think i see a great similarity.
https://picasaweb.google.com/...#5229959549766530738

My avatar photo is Lake Tekapo in New Zealand's South Island. Taken by me in 2004 on a Red Carpet Tours LOTR Movie Location Tour. 'Twas the Vacation of a Lifetime!

pictures taken while on the tour are here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Kirly7/LOTRNewZealandTour#


Kirly
Lorien


Jan 26 2013, 4:22am

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or this one [In reply to] Can't Post

https://picasaweb.google.com/...#5229959713559475714

My avatar photo is Lake Tekapo in New Zealand's South Island. Taken by me in 2004 on a Red Carpet Tours LOTR Movie Location Tour. 'Twas the Vacation of a Lifetime!

pictures taken while on the tour are here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Kirly7/LOTRNewZealandTour#


Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 26 2013, 4:23am

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Definitely Maine. [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm sure quite a beautiful movie could be shot in Maine, actually. For what it's worth, the photographer is the friend of mine I've mentioned in the Off Topic forum.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Old Toby
Grey Havens


Jan 26 2013, 5:04am

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Actually RA rather enjoyed the long hair [In reply to] Can't Post

from a YouTube video called Max 60 Seconds with Richard Armitage, he responds to various questions thrown at him by Martin Freeman. One of them was "Missed the flowing locks or good riddance?" He replied that he missed the long hair and he would love to grow his own hair that long but didn't think it would work out....and besides, he'd be very limited in the parts he got!

Oh yeah and btw Kassandros...nice pic! Thanks for sharing! Keep the locks! I hope you find some nice hair ornaments to keep order, like the kind Thorin & family wear. Of course you realize, if you start looking too Thorin-like, you'll have women following you all around. Wink

"Age is always advancing and I'm fairly sure it's up to no good." Harry Dresden (Jim Butcher)


arithmancer
Grey Havens

Jan 26 2013, 7:03am

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I think it would. [In reply to] Can't Post

That thing Fili and Kili's hair looks like a Dwarvish version of a barette/hair clip. They have all the hair that grows in front closest to their faces all pulled back and held behind their heads by those clips.

Speaking as someone who used to wear her hair hip-length, and did style it in this way at times, yes, this does work to keep your hair out of your face. The clip keeps the hair that is in it from falling your face, and also keeps hair that is further away from doing so by getting in its way. In my experience, a clip or barette alone may slip/loosen over time or when moving about vigorously. Though you and the Dwarves might have this problem less as your hair is coarse and curly. Mine is bone straight and smooth, so the clips tended to slide down. For better hold I used a rubber hair band to hold that front hank of hair I had pulled back tightly in a pony tail, and then would wear a clip/barette over it for the decorative effect.


Starling
Half-elven


Jan 26 2013, 9:25am

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Hey Kirly, I see you have changed the spelling of Tekapo [In reply to] Can't Post

I noticed a few days ago that you had it spelled 'Takapo'. It jumped out at me instantly as incorrect, and I was going to let you know. Then I got interested in finding out more about the place name, and after reading several sources, discovered this:

The Maori called the area Takapo, meaning "To leave in haste at night". The current name, Tekapo is possibly a corruption of Takapo.

So then I started to think that perhaps you had deliberately used the original spelling of the word to be accurate, so I decided I shouldn't correct you. Crazy

Anyway, thanks to you I have now learned that it wasn't always Tekapo. Smile


Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 26 2013, 4:04pm

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Thanks. [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for the info. I feel a little silly because it does sound pretty basic, but I've never really tried those. Don't think I've seen masculine looking hairclips before, but it's something that might be worth experimenting with.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Kirly
Lorien


Jan 26 2013, 5:00pm

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Yep another nice person messages me [In reply to] Can't Post

It was just a typo tho. Wish I could be as clever as you! :-)

My avatar photo is Lake Tekapo in New Zealand's South Island. Taken by me in 2004 on a Red Carpet Tours LOTR Movie Location Tour. 'Twas the Vacation of a Lifetime!

pictures taken while on the tour are here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Kirly7/LOTRNewZealandTour#


oncefaster
Registered User

Jan 26 2013, 10:31pm

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Snowy Lonely Mt. as the thrush approaches. [In reply to] Can't Post

Probably wrong but we saw a very snow covered mt. at the end and we MAY not see snow again unless seen as another distant view?


malla
Bree


Jan 29 2013, 12:54am

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AFTER VIEWING #35 ! [In reply to] Can't Post

...I too continue having thoughts !



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It takes a pretty special movie for viewers to still be noticing and thinking about new things after 11 viewings, doesn’t it? (Either that or said viewer is just a bit slow on the uptake, and if you suggest that, c’mere and I’ll thwap you.)



And sadly, it took me 35 viewings to notice this......

There are scorch marks on the curved walls in Bag End. At the beginning, when old Bilbo is writing and then talking with Frodo...you see the candles on the walls....with scorch marks above the candles!

I thought to myself,,,"wow, Bilbo has not only let the place get a bit cluttered with stuff, but has neglected to paint the place in a while." Then it goes back 60 years....and the walls are scorched then too!

Wonder what I'll discover if I make it to 50 viewings...Tongue

Tenna' ento lye omenta,
Malla


Rolfina
Rivendell


Jan 30 2013, 10:23am

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Maybe on #36 you should open your eyes [In reply to] Can't Post

I've only seen it 4 times and I have noticed the scorched walls. Tongue


malla
Bree


Jan 30 2013, 2:37pm

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guess I've been too busy...... [In reply to] Can't Post

...........looking at wrought iron work of candlesticks/fireplace tools/chandeliers/door hinges, woodwork on wonderful furniture pieces/arch ways/doors, beautiful windows,china patterns, paintings/sketches/maps on walls, tapestries, throws, blankets, stonework of fireplaces, mantels, wooden toys, various wicker baskets, the jars and jugs sitting abut on tables and shelves, quills and their holders, books, that fantastic dressing gown that Bilbo is wearing (which I am currently collecting fabrics to make myself a matching quilt..*sigh).....
........the list goes on and on......
...so yeah, I missed the scorchmarks....ah well.......Tongue

Tenna' ento lye omenta,
Malla


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Jan 31 2013, 6:15pm

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The Robin is Michigan's State Bird [In reply to] Can't Post

(also known as Robin Redbreast) and our first true sign of Spring finally arriving. Suddenly they're all over the place and laying beautiful light-blue eggs. (Robin blue)


They have a very unique call... which this bird shares heartily with Radagast :)



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Feb 5 2013, 1:20am

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I used to have a set of curtains [In reply to] Can't Post

I made with scrap cloth when we didn't have money for some proper drapes. I think I still have them in a box somewhere! ;)



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Feb 5 2013, 1:37am

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**I've Gathered Geeky List Info from this post :) THANKS ALL! [In reply to] Can't Post

**PLEASE DO NOT ADD ANYMORE OBSERVATIONS FOR THE LIST TO THIS THREAD!**
I've made the final gathering of geeky observations for this thread. Please post any additions to the most current Hobbit Movie Board Thread. THANKS MUCHLY!! J

Feel free to respond to posts in these threads, but please add new observations to the most current lists J I'm afraid I'm running out of time to go through all of the threads on a Quest for your very cool contributions! KEEP 'EM COMING!!!



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Mar 18 2013, 9:24pm

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**double checked** THANKS! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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