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Maiarmike
Grey Havens
Dec 3 2012, 10:59pm
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If the whole idea of this being a more friendly, adventure story becomes lost on reviewers, disappointment will set in when they realize it's not LotR, and was never supposed to be. Despite the foreshadowing with the White Council.
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge" --J.R.R. Tolkien
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chazychris
The Shire
Dec 3 2012, 11:03pm
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"A dragon the ultimate villain in place of Sauron"
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This line makes me ponder, again, how the expanded White Council / Necromancer storyline will be balanced with the original, main narrative. Obviously we don't want the threat of the Necromancer and flushing out Dol Guldur to overshadow Bilbo's and the dwarves' storyline and Smaug as the villain of the trilogy. It will be interesting to see how that balance plays out, but that won't even come into play until the second film...
"At any rate he is under no enchantment but his own." -Tolkien, The Hobbit (Gandalf describing Beorn)
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Balrogslunch
The Shire
Dec 3 2012, 11:04pm
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thanks not much detail again really though from that site
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Thanks for this review and thanks to the earlier poster for the blogspot one really enjoyed that..... I think this movie is probably the hardest of the three to implement ....you have to introduce all the characters and (warning possible spoiler) follow a similar path to previous first film....but the reviews its getting (especially the audio review) it seems it CAN be accepted by non fans as well as fans of Lord of the Rings so fingers crossed!!
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Dogsofwar
The Shire
Dec 3 2012, 11:17pm
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Long time lurker, first time poster :)
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The Hobbit Movieţ@The_HobbitMovie Reviews coming in for The Hobbit are already better than expectations! This was tweeted about 45 minutes ago, wonder which ones they are speaking of...
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Balrogslunch
The Shire
Dec 3 2012, 11:25pm
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have they removed the hobbit talk out of their podcast( on youtube anyway)
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not sure if they have edited away this hobbit discussion (on youtube anyway) maybe because its still in embargo? or i have just gone crazy and cant find it now .....
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Maiarmike
Grey Havens
Dec 3 2012, 11:49pm
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No doubt there will be some mediocre reviews. Every movie has them.
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Devin Faraci, I'm sure is one that will post a 'meh' review.
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge" --J.R.R. Tolkien
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Lusitano
Tol Eressea
Dec 4 2012, 12:15am
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said nothing about the acting, except for martin and andy. How can a film that has mere symbols for characters be 4.5 stars??
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Glóin the Dark
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Dec 4 2012, 12:20am
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...2001: A Space Odyssey. "Just what do you think you are doing, Bard? Look Bard, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over. Daisy, Daisy..."
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Carne
Tol Eressea
Dec 4 2012, 2:26am
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Brian Duffield loved the movie, yet they picked those two tweets
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Wordofmask
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Dec 4 2012, 2:31am
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"critics found the film padded, overlong and shockingly lacking in women." from the book there is no woman at all.
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Elessar
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Dec 4 2012, 2:37am
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I don't know how one could take that review seriously. Seems like someone tossed something together that was at best a lame attempt to sound professional and take shots at the movie.
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SweetClover
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Dec 4 2012, 2:41am
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Lacking in women? What do they want them to do? Make up a half-dozen new characters just because they need more females? Like halfway through the movie I'm going to go "Well, this would have been really good, but there's only been one girl."
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Aragorn the Elfstone
Tol Eressea
Dec 4 2012, 2:41am
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Obviously there's going to be negative reviews, but...
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...an article like this is so obviously agenda driven. I look forward to reading individual reviews when the embargo expires - but articles like this are a waste of time. The writer seems to knock the film for being lighter fare than LotR and having a lack of female presence. Both of which are inherent to the source material. Then there's a comment about how L.A. critics though the film was overlong and stuffed - when we haven't actually heard from the critics yet (maybe she means the few she's personally spoken to). Then two of the tweets supplied to support this narrative are actually taken out of context from someone who enjoyed the film.
"All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds awake to find that it was vanity; But the dreamers of day are dangerous men. That they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible." - T.E. Lawrence
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chazychris
The Shire
Dec 4 2012, 2:41am
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The writer nods to Guillermo for gruesome character design. I'm sure some of his influence can be seen, but does the writer of this article have any awareness of Jackson's first four films? Nasty looking creations on screen are Jackson's forte.
"At any rate he is under no enchantment but his own." -Tolkien, The Hobbit (Gandalf describing Beorn)
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tolktolk
Lorien
Dec 4 2012, 2:45am
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Twitter reactions from Toronto screening
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https://twitter.com/alicanteinidris So yeah #TheHobbit was amazing! Not exactly what I expected, but still amazing and visually STUNNING! You've done it again, Peter Jackson. https://twitter.com/Katherine_Zion The Hobbit is spectacular! Absolute genius, everything about it. I must get the soundtrack! A screening in LA is just beginning, so more reactions to come
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Tim
Tol Eressea
Dec 4 2012, 2:48am
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https://twitter.com/alicanteinidris So yeah #TheHobbit was amazing! Not exactly what I expected, but still amazing and visually STUNNING! You've done it again, Peter Jackson. https://twitter.com/Katherine_Zion The Hobbit is spectacular! Absolute genius, everything about it. I must get the soundtrack! A screening in LA is just beginning, so more reactions to come all those negative tweets the previous reviewer mentioned Most of what I've seen here as far as tweets go has been positive. We'll see if that trend continues.
-Tim came by. Tim! If you had heard only a quarter of what I have heard about him, and I have only heard very little of all there is to hear, you would be prepared for any sort of remarkable tale.
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nobofthepony
Lorien
Dec 4 2012, 2:48am
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Really? That's all the talent you need to see a movie like this two weeks early?
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"There is a movie. Some people don't like certain things about it. It isn't Lord Of The Rings. But it is playing to holiday crowds (so was Lord of the Rings). The effects are good. Many monsters are seen. The actors act. Look, here are some tweets I saw on Twitter. The end."
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lyndomiel
Rivendell
Dec 4 2012, 2:49am
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There are many great films, especially war and adventure stories, without women. And shouldn't critics know something about the source material? Geez.
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Kaymanklynman
The Shire
Dec 4 2012, 2:59am
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I think we must disregard all reviews that dont show us deep knowledge of tolkien's work. Greetings from Brazil , I am a new member , but a long time spy. please ,excuse for my bad english
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Maiarmike
Grey Havens
Dec 4 2012, 3:09am
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Lawrence of Arabia=zero women. One of the greatest epic films of all time. //
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"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge" --J.R.R. Tolkien
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