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dave_lf
Gondor
Nov 26 2012, 2:25pm
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such an antidote to negativity.
I know. I occasionally get annoyed over the creative decisions the team makes, but it's impossible to stay mad at PJ when I see him in person--he's just too likable.
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Elenorflower
Gondor
Nov 26 2012, 3:10pm
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when I watch PJ and all those lovely folk having fun and being brilliant, all the Bah Humbugs just fade away to little squeaks and then POP! they are gone. leaving me with a geeky grin on my mush.
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The Preciousss
Bree
Nov 26 2012, 3:22pm
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I like Raddy's design, including the poo...
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If you have ever seen a bird's nest in the wild, you will see that lil birds always poop out of their nests at the same spot and that they do it every few minutes.
IIRC during the timeframe of LOTR and the Hobbit, the Istari have been in Middleearth a long time, the blue wizards got lost in the south or east and Raddy withdrew from the dealings with the various folks and cared more about the wildlife.
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Kassandros
Rohan
Nov 26 2012, 6:23pm
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Most of what people call "bird poo" is actually just "bird pee". Simple urea, mostly. That seems to be what Radagast has on his beard.
Doesn't bother me in the slightest. I like it, actually. Radagast probably doesn't care much about his appearance and is more in touch with the lives of animals. He wouldn't be the sort to take care of his appearance since the animals probably wouldn't care and he doesn't care for anyone but animals. I guess some people here are personally disgusted by his appearance, but as a bird lover myself, bird pee isn't the sort of thing that grosses me out.
Overall, Radagast looks great. Some of the concept art for him in the art book looked pretty bad, but the final version appears to capture him perfectly.
all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...
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Kassandros
Rohan
Nov 26 2012, 6:26pm
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Really? I don't see The Doctor in Radagast at all
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I grew up with Sylvester McCoy as the Doctor and I actually have a lot of trouble recognizing him in the Radagast costume. On the other hand, I barely recognize him in the recent inverviews I've seen either. His speaking voice and current appearance seem a long, long way from the Doctor I remember.
On the other hand, I haven't watched a Seventh Doctor episode in a long, long time. But back in the day, he was definitely my second favorite of the original seven doctors, behind only the great Tom Baker.
all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...
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DanielLB
Immortal
Nov 26 2012, 6:42pm
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I think it's because I know he's under the costume
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Rather than recognising his voice or anything. It's a strange one. Doctor Who filled the Tolkien shaped hole in my life, until the Hobbit got underway properly. I love the classic episodes, so I just associate McCoy, with Doctor Who.
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AinurOlorin
Half-elven
Nov 26 2012, 11:52pm
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It is also worth noting, Lacrimae, that Saruman had a tendency to demean without entirely dismissing.
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Openly he scorned Gandalf's use of the halfling's weed. . . privately he sought after it and used it regularly himself. He may have scorned Radagast as a bird tamer, but he also wasted no time in using birds for his own purposes. There was ever a touch of hypocrisy, and recognition of at least some of the usefulness even of things which he scorned, to Saruman.A couple of the quotes we already have from AUJ seem to be highlighting the different viewpoints which Gandalf and Saruman have on the world. This seems to be a thread which can be seen in LOTR - that Saruman is characterised by seeing a very great deal (not least via the palantir) but somehow failing to see the truth with the clarity that Gandalf does. "Saruman of many colours" is a great example of their differing perceptions.
I wonder if Radagast is a further example of this. It hadn't occurred to me before but we essentially only see Radagast through two lenses - that of Gandalf and that of Saruman (Beorn's comments being very brief). I think my assumption as a reader had been to see the "truth" of Gandalf's views and dismiss Saruman's comments as calumny.
But all that is gold does not glitter, and Gandalf as we know sees the gold, and does not care for the glitter. And we the readers may see Radagast more warmly through Gandalf's eyes, rather than focus on the surface that Saruman's more superficial gaze would dwell upon. As such a brown wizard who looks foul, but feels fair, might act as a very interesting thematic fulcrum between the other wizards.
And, of course, Saruman failing to understand the value of the natural is a much broader theme for the films..
LR
"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"
"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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Ardamírë
Valinor
Nov 27 2012, 4:18am
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But I just wanted to say how extraordinary their skill is. Even if you and I and a few others are the only ones singing their praise. Shore gets all the credit, and deservedly so, but the musicians just cannot be overlooked.
"...and his first memory of Middle-earth was the green stone above her breast as she sang above his cradle while Gondolin was still in flower." -Unfinished Tales
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