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nobofthepony
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Jul 30 2012, 4:22pm
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Well, TTT and ROTK each stretched out a couple of chapters to be the main film...
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Helm's Deep and Pelennor Fields.... After Smaug dies, there will be a build up to tBO5A and an exploration of characters...Thorin and Bard especially... I could see it being pulled off artfully.
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 30 2012, 4:24pm
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I doubt they would have posted that as fact otherwise.
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DanielLB
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Jul 30 2012, 4:24pm
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Yes, isn't M.Freeman supposed to start filming Sherlock series 3 soon(ish)?
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And what's going to happen with TinTin 2?
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DanielLB
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Jul 30 2012, 4:25pm
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If it means we get to see Galadriel destroy Dol Guldur, then I'll be chucking my own money at PJ!
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Danielos
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Jul 30 2012, 4:25pm
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It is just so sad that PJ doesnīt have the rights to Unfinished Tales. I would love to see The Hobbit expanded with the relevant stuff in there. It is still pretty strange. How can they plan so badly that they at the end of the shooting realises that they need another movie? Didnīt they have two scripts to work with? I fear that the only effect this will have is shorter movies and no extended editions.
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nobofthepony
Lorien
Jul 30 2012, 4:26pm
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Dawg, I heard you like Middle Earth in your Middle Earth...so here's some more Middle Earth in you Middle Earth so you can Middle Earth while you Middle Earth//
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DanielLB
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Jul 30 2012, 4:26pm
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Is collider a reputable website?
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They would have put "insider" wouldn't they?
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 30 2012, 4:27pm
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Look outside your window. Do you see any avian swine fluttering past?
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Lusitano
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Jul 30 2012, 4:28pm
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Yes....my problem is that i dont see how you can split the second movie into a third in a cohesive and fulfilling manner, so that the characters and story feel like they werent cut out of a bigger story.... But, if you do that , you have to end it with Smaug 's death so that the rest if for film three...but that leaves what? A dol guldur battle, laketown, a passage through Dale, trek to Lonely M., smaug and bilbo 's chat, smaug attacks and dies...even with added dwarven history, Dale history, campfire conversations, a few comedic moments...i cant see it as a full, stand alone, piece of filmmaking... Evidently i hope i am wrong and i beseech other members who like this 3rd movie idea to try to explain how such a move would work...because right now...im not that excited...and i wish i was!
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MasterOrc
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Jul 30 2012, 4:28pm
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Might as well....tons of material that I'm quite sure if done right will make most of us happy......will be curious to see what else will be included in the movies??
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TFP
Lorien
Jul 30 2012, 4:29pm
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I'm certainly pleased. IIRC the unabridged [audiocassette] copy of the Hobbit runs at about 11 hours. Given past form it seems sensible to assume that PJ is aiming in the 8-10 hours range for his films. Given the fairly hefty amount of descriptive text in the book, & that verbal descrption is relatively slow, 3 films is consistenw with, as others have said, some hefty exposition. Which is quite exciting really.
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Mooseboy018
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Jul 30 2012, 4:29pm
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I'm sure once I actually see the movies, that's exactly how I'll feel about it.
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Lucky Luke
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Jul 30 2012, 4:29pm
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Film 3 : death of (spoiler) + Bo5A
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Bridge film is out of the question at this point. I think it would be an HUGE mistake to kill Smaug in film 2 and I do not think it will happen! IMO, the barrel scene will be pushed back to film 2, film 1 thus ending with the spider sequence and the capture of the dwarves by the elves. The climax of Film 2 could be the Battle of Dol Guldur AND the fury of Smaug after his encounter with Bilbo. Film 2 could end with the suspens of seing Bilbo and company trapped in the tunnel. I really like that idea ! With the death of Smaug AND the BOFA (+ the return of Bilbo), film 3 could then be the great conclusion of it all!!!
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Maiarmike
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Jul 30 2012, 4:31pm
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Peter Jackson has always struck me as an honest, dedicated fellow...
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...so for that reason, I believe him for the time being that this was done for artistic reasons, and not pushed by the studio.
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge" --J.R.R. Tolkien
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Shelob'sAppetite
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Jul 30 2012, 4:33pm
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Seems like plenty of story to tell in three hours, particularly if you take your time to do it well. I think three films will help PJ, rather than hurt him. It will give him time to not have to compromise between action and dialogue, thrill and backstory. He can include both.
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hutch
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Jul 30 2012, 4:33pm
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MWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bring on Viggo!!!!!!!
Davy Jones could've been Bilbo...I mean he was a Brit with a sense for adventure, singing & dancing. And think of the costs it would've save with forced perspective: he was ACTUALLY 5'3. He also hung out with a grumpy tall dude in a hat (Mike Nesmith.) While we're at it let's just have Micky Dolenz and Peter Tork as Merry & Pippin.
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Jul 30 2012, 4:34pm
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is he films lots of coverage, rewrites the scripts constantly, gets ideas from actors, builds full sets to live in. I'm not surprised at all considering most of the three lord of the rings movies changed tremendously during their pickup stages AND in post-production.
"The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair; and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."-J.R.R. Tolkien "Thanks for the money!" -George Lucas
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Maiarmike
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Jul 30 2012, 4:35pm
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According to Slashfilm.com, domain registrations for the titles include...
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...The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug, and The Hobbit: Riddles in the Dark. I wonder if they are renaming a 2nd film, and keeping the third film as There and Back Again?...
"I warn you, if you bore me, I shall take my revenge" --J.R.R. Tolkien
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hutch
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Jul 30 2012, 4:35pm
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Viggo!
Davy Jones could've been Bilbo...I mean he was a Brit with a sense for adventure, singing & dancing. And think of the costs it would've save with forced perspective: he was ACTUALLY 5'3. He also hung out with a grumpy tall dude in a hat (Mike Nesmith.) While we're at it let's just have Micky Dolenz and Peter Tork as Merry & Pippin.
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The Party Tree
Lorien
Jul 30 2012, 4:35pm
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Disappointed, but not surprised.
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I don't really trust PJ to handle the extra material, especially in light of the fact that I wasn't always happy with the way PJ & Co. adapted dialogue and narrative in LotR that had already been fully fleshed out by Tolkien. But most importantly, I hope all three films succeed in focusing on Bilbo's story and telling all of it. If it veers too far from actually being about the hobbit, I'll be really disappointed.
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peleowyn
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Jul 30 2012, 4:37pm
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...more of Howard Shore's incredible music!!
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DanielLB
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Jul 30 2012, 4:38pm
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Why wouldn't they keep "An Unexpected Journey"?
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It makes more sense than "Riddles in the Dark"? No? And what of all the merchandise locked down with the title AUJ? Too late to change film 1 surely?
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hutch
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Jul 30 2012, 4:38pm
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You? Ha ha. This is awesome. If Flagg has no beef with this then either the world is ending or it's a good idea.
Davy Jones could've been Bilbo...I mean he was a Brit with a sense for adventure, singing & dancing. And think of the costs it would've save with forced perspective: he was ACTUALLY 5'3. He also hung out with a grumpy tall dude in a hat (Mike Nesmith.) While we're at it let's just have Micky Dolenz and Peter Tork as Merry & Pippin.
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