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Analysing Billy Connolly's Dain Ironfoot
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Tol Eressea

Jun 19 2012, 5:36pm

Post #176 of 242 (8744 views)
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The fabled hospitality of the dwarves...roaring screaming...
squirrel encyclopedia...ripe meat of the surgery table...this, my patient is the home of my MDs ....and they call it a mine...a MINE!

Patient gulps....


Jun 19 2012, 5:38pm

Post #177 of 242 (8746 views)
It does raise the question of why the company would take Bifur at all? / [In reply to] Can't Post



Jun 19 2012, 5:41pm

Post #178 of 242 (8737 views)
They don't have much to work with [In reply to] Can't Post

A motley crew is better than no crew, I suppose.

Plus, I imagine they'll make him a fierce fighter when he finds out what's going on...


Jun 19 2012, 5:45pm

Post #179 of 242 (8742 views)
Patient consultations... [In reply to] Can't Post

Patient: Hold on, where's my regular surgeon?

Gimli M.D.: Haha!

Patient: Wait a minute...

Gimli M.D.: Certainty of death, small chance of success...What are we waiting for?!! *raises axe above patient's head*

Patient: Nooooooo!!!


Jun 19 2012, 5:51pm

Post #180 of 242 (8735 views)
Perhaps Bifur is a Tolkien minority [In reply to] Can't Post



Jun 19 2012, 5:51pm

Post #181 of 242 (8715 views)
I think you're on to something [In reply to] Can't Post

Much is explained. Severing the corpus callosum is actually a common last-ditch treatment for severe epilepsy. Clearly Bifur found himself on the receiving end of that procedure, courtesy of Gimli M.D.


Jun 19 2012, 5:54pm

Post #182 of 242 (8733 views)
A Witch Doctor [In reply to] Can't Post

Gimli: They say that a great Doctor lives in this hosptial. A witch Doctor of terrible power. All who look upon her, fall under her anesthesia... and are never seen again.

Tol Eressea

Jun 19 2012, 5:54pm

Post #183 of 242 (8736 views)
reply to Shelobs Appetite [In reply to] Can't Post

Patient surgery

Patient sits on the surgeons table...but Gimli is too short to properly operate on him...

Assistant: Here MD Gimli, let me help you get u...
Gimli MD: NOBODY tosses a dwarf!....( jumps with raised axe to stick it to the table and secure his feet) UUUAAAAAAAAGGHHH!!

Patient faints....

Oin K

Jun 19 2012, 5:55pm

Post #184 of 242 (8794 views)
So, I found a picture of Billy Connolly's stunt double [In reply to] Can't Post

You guys are not going to like this:

In all seriousness, I think a mohawk could be really cool-looking, as well as intimidating or downright terrifying, as long as they don't go overboard with scary tattoos or try to get too over the top awesome with it.

"The Naugrim were ever, as they still remain, short and squat in stature; they were deep-breasted, strong in the arm, and stout in the leg, and their snouts were long. Indeed this strangeness they have that no Man nor Elf has ever seen a snoutless Dwarf - unless he were rhinoplasted in mockery, and would then be more like to die of shame than of many other hurts that to us would seem more deadly. For the Naugrim have snouts from the beginning of their lives, male and female alike..." (History of Middle Earth, volume 11, The War of the Truffles, p. 205)


Jun 19 2012, 6:00pm

Post #185 of 242 (8763 views)
Why have a foward-backward mohawk [In reply to] Can't Post

When you can go sideways:


But you raise a good point - all of us (I assume) are thinking of a modern-day mohawk.

There are plenty of acceptible variations - just google weird mohawks Wink


Jun 19 2012, 6:33pm

Post #186 of 242 (8710 views)
I can't do this all on my own, no I know, I'm no super-dwarf. [In reply to] Can't Post

Tol Eressea

Jun 19 2012, 6:44pm

Post #187 of 242 (8682 views)
reply [In reply to] Can't Post

Every dwarf lies...Wink

Great photo by the way


Jun 19 2012, 6:48pm

Post #188 of 242 (8693 views)
Haha! [In reply to] Can't Post

Legolas the nurse, of Mirkwood Hospital.

Gimli M.D.: Stitches? Ha! We have a much more efficient solution. Legolas, my laddie, we need your bow!

Legolas: *aims arrow at the patient's incision area*

Patient: *drowsily* Noooooo...ooooo....ooooo...

(This post was edited by Shelob'sAppetite on Jun 19 2012, 6:48pm)


Jun 19 2012, 6:53pm

Post #189 of 242 (8716 views)
I don't think they need to make him a fierce fighter... [In reply to] Can't Post

 He was one, wasn't he? I was listening to the audio of The Hobbit in the car today and noticed that Bifur and Bombur were singled out as having put up a fierce fight before the trolls caught them.

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Jun 19 2012, 7:25pm

Post #190 of 242 (8689 views)
I bet he gets great TV reception on that thing. / [In reply to] Can't Post


Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauronís master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded b*****d with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.

Ataahua's stories

Tol Eressea

Jun 19 2012, 10:24pm

Post #191 of 242 (8640 views)
Maybe Bofur and Bombur have taken care of him since he went a bit "crazy"? [In reply to] Can't Post

Being family and all they might not want to leave him behind.

Captain Salt
Tol Eressea

Jun 19 2012, 10:54pm

Post #192 of 242 (8608 views)
That's the impression one gets in the shot where they're attempting to tend(?) to him in one of the vlogs (may have been 3)// [In reply to] Can't Post


My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Jun 19 2012, 10:54pm)


Jun 19 2012, 10:58pm

Post #193 of 242 (8594 views)
Kinda like... [In reply to] Can't Post

Silent Bob!

It's the adventures of Bilbo and Silent Bifur! Snoochie boochies!

Sr. Staff

Jun 20 2012, 3:53am

Post #194 of 242 (8570 views)
red hammer ... axe [In reply to] Can't Post

Dain's axe was red.

Worth pointing out.

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Jun 20 2012, 5:00am

Post #195 of 242 (8553 views)
He had common sense and knew when he was outmatched, certainly. [In reply to] Can't Post

He had felt the fear of a mighty Maia Spirit from before the forming of The World, the very demon who had driven the dwarves from Khazad-Dum in the first place, slaying their great kings and routing their armies.

I don't know if there will be a visual nod to The Balrog or not, but I feel if the history of The Dwarves is going to be explored at all, then He must be given some acknowledgement, for he was the chief instrument of their initial and greatest misfortune. The Balrog singlehandedly exiled The Dwarves from the most ancient and mighty homeland they knew. He did from within what Sauron could not manage from without, and in doing so allowed it to devolve into the haven of orcs and trolls that it later became. Following Sauron's hatred for Durin's heirs, as related to the ring they bore but were not subjectated by, The Balrog is the first and worst of the great misfortunes of Durin's house, and also the longest reigning, driving them from their nation and denying them any hope of return for a thousand years.

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I left it kinda implicit in my piece as I felt I'd already rabbitted on long enough, but when I referred to Dain's wisdom, the scene between Thrain and Dain was key in my mind.

It would take not just a lot of guts, but a lot of smarts, to reject one's liegelord in such a situation.

Reading the passage in the appendices, and I think it's the only speaking piece he has ANYWHERE, it's clear that he's a thinker as well as a fighter.

"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


Jun 20 2012, 5:07am

Post #196 of 242 (8565 views)
Gimli M.D. continued [In reply to] Can't Post

Patient wakes, and looks around.

Gimli M.D.: Aha! There is one patient in this hospital that still draws breath!!! *raises axe over patient's head*

Patient: Noooooooo!!!!

(This post was edited by Shelob'sAppetite on Jun 20 2012, 5:09am)


Jun 20 2012, 12:47pm

Post #197 of 242 (8528 views)
There's no such thing as too much [In reply to] Can't Post

You're killing me with these things. My turn.

Patient: Wait, who are you? Where's my regular surgeon?
Gimli M.D.: Give me your name, and I shall give you mine.
Patient: I'm not so sure about thi...
Gimli M.D.: You might as well accept it.
Patient: No, seriously, I...
Gimli M.D.: Bring your pretty face to my axe!
[Sound effects]
Gimli M.D.: Legolas, two already!
Legolas R.N.: I'm on 17!
Gimil M.D. [to himself]: Let's hope they last the night.

(This post was edited by dave_lf on Jun 20 2012, 12:54pm)

Tol Eressea

Jun 20 2012, 1:45pm

Post #198 of 242 (8476 views)
gloin [In reply to] Can't Post

Do you guys think Gloin will be as vigorous and energetic and funny lines giver as his son was in LOTR?


Jun 20 2012, 1:56pm

Post #199 of 242 (8509 views)
I'm hoping for similar mannerisms [In reply to] Can't Post

As you say, they are Father and Son afterall. What could Gloin do though, that would represent Gimli?

Tol Eressea

Jun 20 2012, 2:40pm

Post #200 of 242 (8474 views)
gloin [In reply to] Can't Post

Well...he already ha a similar look to him....the question of the voice and way of speaking...though i wonder if they chose another vocality, because peter hamblton 's voice is quite different....at least from interviews and vblogs...

He might have a similar fighting style...

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